View Full Version : Are Veggie Tales Ungodly?!
Jason B
06-22-2009, 07:20 PM
Last night, it was presented from the pulpit that veggie tales are an ungodly distortment of God's word, that the creators are making fun of and mocking christianity and the Bible, and that no christian should allow their children to partake of such.
I have 2 young children and have seen several episodes of veggie tales, and in my opinion it is the most godly childrens video materials around.
I obviously disagree with the statement made.
So if you are familiar with veggie tales, please give me you opinion. Do you think it goes to far. Is a christian relaxing their standards by allowing their children to watch such? Do you think that veggie tales are ungodly?!
Good grief......... LOL
Veggie Tales is one of the FEW things that I'd actually consider wholesome entertainment for a child.
Hoovie
06-22-2009, 07:51 PM
Good grief......... LOL
Veggie Tales is one of the FEW things that I'd actually consider wholesome entertainment for a child.
I agree.
My children are starting to "outgrow" Veggietales... I still like them though.:thumbsup
MissBrattified
06-22-2009, 08:44 PM
Absolutely NOT!!!!!! Very wholesome, great values in their shows. Definitely not mindless entertainment.
Timmy
06-22-2009, 08:48 PM
Pure evil. Glorifies piracy. And silly songs.
:heeheehee
OnTheFritz
06-22-2009, 08:48 PM
I think they're great... Ridiculous.
*AQuietPlace*
06-22-2009, 08:50 PM
Does your pastor approve of other videos?
(assuming it was your pastor preaching)
Hoovie
06-22-2009, 09:21 PM
Honestly? I think they are just Silly Songs With Larry!
jaxfam6
06-22-2009, 09:26 PM
PAHLEEZ!!!!!!
Bob and Larry are some of my best friends
=)
SeekingOne
06-22-2009, 09:42 PM
I was horrified when I watched them the first time. I had heard their music and it was cute, but if children watched them without having someone tell them the truth, they will have a very distorted view of God.
It has been a looooong time now, but I remember Jonah and the whale. The only thing similarity to the real Bible story was that there was a character named Jonah, he ended up in a fish and there was a town called Nineveh. That is what concerns me.
I personally wish they would just make cute cartoons about moral kid things and not try to tell "Bible stories" that have nothing to do with the Bible. Little kids get in their mind, after watching the same DVD a hundred times, that they learned a Bible story. If they don't go to church or go to a church that doesn't teach the Bible, but just preaches, they will have lies in their heads instead of truth.
It took me over a week to get one child to believe me over the DVD that the story of Esther that they saw was not in the Bible. Sad. Again, it could have been a cute story, if they had not implied it was in the Bible.
So, I guess I would say that I won't show these to any kids I keep. They imply that they are telling a Bible story and what they show is not even close to the truth.
Just my opinion I can see from what I have read here.
Jason B
06-22-2009, 09:58 PM
Does your pastor approve of other videos?
(assuming it was your pastor preaching)
the person presenting this believes in other video, which is why i am dumbfounded. If your going to allow kids to watch video, is there a better,more wholesome series than veggie tales?
Disney? Pixar? Nickelodeon?
firefox
06-22-2009, 11:06 PM
I was horrified when I watched them the first time. I had heard their music and it was cute, but if children watched them without having someone tell them the truth, they will have a very distorted view of God.
It has been a looooong time now, but I remember Jonah and the whale. The only thing similarity to the real Bible story was that there was a character named Jonah, he ended up in a fish and there was a town called Nineveh. That is what concerns me.
I personally wish they would just make cute cartoons about moral kid things and not try to tell "Bible stories" that have nothing to do with the Bible. Little kids get in their mind, after watching the same DVD a hundred times, that they learned a Bible story. If they don't go to church or go to a church that doesn't teach the Bible, but just preaches, they will have lies in their heads instead of truth.
It took me over a week to get one child to believe me over the DVD that the story of Esther that they saw was not in the Bible. Sad. Again, it could have been a cute story, if they had not implied it was in the Bible.
So, I guess I would say that I won't show these to any kids I keep. They imply that they are telling a Bible story and what they show is not even close to the truth.
Just my opinion I can see from what I have read here.
maybe i am looking at it the wrong way, but i would rather have my children learn the principles that a bible story is teaching (and they LEARN from veggie tales because it is RELEVANT to them) rather than making sure they know every detail of the story as it is recorded in the king james version.
Veggie Tales is not designed to tell a Bible story. It is designed to present Godly principles in a way kids will understand and remember. If the child has a distorted view of the Bible, blame it on the parent who is too lazy to share the Word with their child. Veggie Tales allows Bible stories to be more relevant....
Thou art wrongest. lol
maybe i am looking at it the wrong way, but i would rather have my children learn the principles that a bible story is teaching (and they LEARN from veggie tales because it is RELEVANT to them) rather than making sure they know every detail of the story as it is recorded in the king james version.
I would love your opinion of SuperBook. Robots in Bible times. Instead of complaining what was wrong about the videos, why not take that time to discuss the principles the video is trying to teach? Just a thought.
I was horrified when I watched them the first time. I had heard their music and it was cute, but if children watched them without having someone tell them the truth, they will have a very distorted view of God.
It has been a looooong time now, but I remember Jonah and the whale. The only thing similarity to the real Bible story was that there was a character named Jonah, he ended up in a fish and there was a town called Nineveh. That is what concerns me.
I personally wish they would just make cute cartoons about moral kid things and not try to tell "Bible stories" that have nothing to do with the Bible. Little kids get in their mind, after watching the same DVD a hundred times, that they learned a Bible story. If they don't go to church or go to a church that doesn't teach the Bible, but just preaches, they will have lies in their heads instead of truth.
It took me over a week to get one child to believe me over the DVD that the story of Esther that they saw was not in the Bible. Sad. Again, it could have been a cute story, if they had not implied it was in the Bible.
So, I guess I would say that I won't show these to any kids I keep. They imply that they are telling a Bible story and what they show is not even close to the truth.
Just my opinion I can see from what I have read here.
*AQuietPlace*
06-23-2009, 07:09 AM
If Veggie Tales is the only exposure your child gets to Bible stories, then, yeah, that's a problem. But if your child knows the "real" story, I don't think VT are going to hurt anything.
My kids love the Adventures in Odyssey series. Those rock.
Digging4Truth
06-23-2009, 07:21 AM
I love the part where they are doing the big singing scene inside the whale and there is a boat on top of the water and the people in the just look at each other as the whale swims underneath them because they can hear the pounding bass of the song being sang.
That is my favorite part ever.
Although I must admit that it is possible that my children may have learned bad lessons from veggie tales.
I sometimes fear that they gleaned too much from "The Pirates That Don't Do Anything" as, sometimes, my kids don't do anything. :)
Digging4Truth
06-23-2009, 07:22 AM
If Veggie Tales is the only exposure your child gets to Bible stories, then, yeah, that's a problem. But if your child knows the "real" story, I don't think VT are going to hurt anything.
My kids love the Adventures in Odyssey series. Those rock.
Yep... and if Veggie Tales is the only exposure ones child gets to Bible stories... Veggie Tales is the least of their problems. :)
U376977
06-23-2009, 07:24 AM
Lunacy caused by religion....like the preachers who preach against TV but they run down to the local Wal-Mart to catch the race/football game/world series, or decide that is the day they have to visit a "liberal" church member who they know will be watching!
misspresley
06-23-2009, 07:28 AM
My ten year old granddaughter learned many of the songs from VT that are most encouraging to children of all ages!! VT is a great entertaining learning tool and reaches children on their level. A little common sense goes a long way!!! Just my 2 cents worth!
n david
06-23-2009, 08:16 AM
Last night, it was presented from the pulpit that veggie tales are an ungodly distortment of God's word, that the creators are making fun of and mocking christianity and the Bible, and that no christian should allow their children to partake of such.
I have 2 young children and have seen several episodes of veggie tales, and in my opinion it is the most godly childrens video materials around.
I obviously disagree with the statement made.
So if you are familiar with veggie tales, please give me you opinion. Do you think it goes to far. Is a christian relaxing their standards by allowing their children to watch such? Do you think that veggie tales are ungodly?!
Has the person who expressed these views actually watched VT?
Pragmatist
06-23-2009, 08:17 AM
I have to admit to not letting my daughter watch An Easter Carol because of the cucumber ghost, but that's just me. :)
I have to admit to not letting my daughter watch An Easter Carol because of the cucumber ghost, but that's just me. :)
LOL, We skip thru that part, it scares my daughter as well.
My daughter has watched veggies faithfully for 4 years, since being in her high chair, completely tuned in. I dont regret any of it. She learns valuable lessons thru them. At the end of the show, Bob and Larry generally sumarize the lesson to be learned. They teach principles like loving your neighbor (as the song goes), forgiveness, compassion, putiing God 1st, not being lazy (IE:Mr. Lunt who unfortunatley "tasted to much of the life of ease...'), using your gifs and talents for God. I could go on much further...
One old tape has at the end of it, the St.Patricks 3 leaf clover representing God the Father, God the Son, and God the Hoylyghost explanation, we chose to edit that part out (VHS).
There are valuable morals and lessons taught in veggies (IE: fruits of the Spirit, beattitudes etc.), which are taught in such a way that children can grasp them, and will be able to apply them in life. I'm :thumbsup:thumbsup for veggie tales.
harleypreacher
06-23-2009, 08:53 AM
I was horrified when I watched them the first time. I had heard their music and it was cute, but if children watched them without having someone tell them the truth, they will have a very distorted view of God.
It has been a looooong time now, but I remember Jonah and the whale. The only thing similarity to the real Bible story was that there was a character named Jonah, he ended up in a fish and there was a town called Nineveh. That is what concerns me.
I personally wish they would just make cute cartoons about moral kid things and not try to tell "Bible stories" that have nothing to do with the Bible. Little kids get in their mind, after watching the same DVD a hundred times, that they learned a Bible story. If they don't go to church or go to a church that doesn't teach the Bible, but just preaches, they will have lies in their heads instead of truth.
It took me over a week to get one child to believe me over the DVD that the story of Esther that they saw was not in the Bible. Sad. Again, it could have been a cute story, if they had not implied it was in the Bible.
So, I guess I would say that I won't show these to any kids I keep. They imply that they are telling a Bible story and what they show is not even close to the truth.
Just my opinion I can see from what I have read here.
Yeah I agree its kind of like people reading the Hair Magic Books and hearing the Hair Magic Messages from a well known evangelist, once they hear it, it hard to get them to believe the Bible.
warrior
06-23-2009, 08:54 AM
I think saying that VT are ungodly is a bit much. Why must we find fault with everything. They are very wholesome. I wouldn't mind my kids watching them. Much to say/do about nothing.
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 09:01 AM
I would love your opinion of SuperBook. Robots in Bible times. Instead of complaining what was wrong about the videos, why not take that time to discuss the principles the video is trying to teach? Just a thought.
Maybe what I wrote was taken wrong? I thought someone was asking opinions, and I just gave mine.
The children I knew that watched these videos did NOT go to church on a regular basis. The parents were just wanting them to have positive entertainment and they thought they were getting Bible stories fed to their kids. :nah
Later the kids argued with me when I read a children's Bible story book that had the real stories in them. Because they had watched Veggie Tales a hundred times, they became "truth" to them and the books were just plain wrong. LOL
So my concern with them is that they DO take REAL Bible characters and basic stories and then make up stories that have nothing to do with the Bible. In "my opinion" they could have just made up nice stories and left the Bible out of it.
"I feel" it is confusing to even kids that go to church to have a parent read the true story of Jonah, for instance, and then sit them in front of Veggie Jonah that visits a king that slaps people with fish and has a choir sing to him in the belly of a fish. It would be preferable "to me" for them to just do the same story and NOT use the name Jonah and Ninevah.
Now, with all that said, I am NOT saying they are bad. LOL It is just MY opinion, and wish, that they would leave the Bible out of their movies and that is all.
mfblume
06-23-2009, 09:54 AM
Last night, it was presented from the pulpit that veggie tales are an ungodly distortment of God's word, that the creators are making fun of and mocking christianity and the Bible, and that no christian should allow their children to partake of such.
I have 2 young children and have seen several episodes of veggie tales, and in my opinion it is the most godly childrens video materials around.
I obviously disagree with the statement made.
So if you are familiar with veggie tales, please give me you opinion. Do you think it goes to far. Is a christian relaxing their standards by allowing their children to watch such? Do you think that veggie tales are ungodly?!
My oh my. Veggie Tales are not intended for mockery at all, but to sincerely get the basic biblical concepts into children using the Bible stories' points from the bible at their age level. Top animators donated their abilities and time for this sincere effort.
Timmy
06-23-2009, 10:08 AM
Maybe what I wrote was taken wrong? I thought someone was asking opinions, and I just gave mine.
The children I knew that watched these videos did NOT go to church on a regular basis. The parents were just wanting them to have positive entertainment and they thought they were getting Bible stories fed to their kids. :nah
Later the kids argued with me when I read a children's Bible story book that had the real stories in them. Because they had watched Veggie Tales a hundred times, they became "truth" to them and the books were just plain wrong. LOL
So my concern with them is that they DO take REAL Bible characters and basic stories and then make up stories that have nothing to do with the Bible. In "my opinion" they could have just made up nice stories and left the Bible out of it.
"I feel" it is confusing to even kids that go to church to have a parent read the true story of Jonah, for instance, and then sit them in front of Veggie Jonah that visits a king that slaps people with fish and has a choir sing to him in the belly of a fish. It would be preferable "to me" for them to just do the same story and NOT use the name Jonah and Ninevah.
Now, with all that said, I am NOT saying they are bad. LOL It is just MY opinion, and wish, that they would leave the Bible out of their movies and that is all.
Interesting. Most of the kids I know are capable of sorting out fictionalized stories from the "real" ones (for sake of argument, we'll call the Bible stories "real". :)). So, how did those kids argue with you? "No, no, you left out the part where the French Peas on the wall made fun of the veggies marching around the city! Get it right!"
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 02:31 PM
Interesting. Most of the kids I know are capable of sorting out fictionalized stories from the "real" ones (for sake of argument, we'll call the Bible stories "real". :)). So, how did those kids argue with you? "No, no, you left out the part where the French Peas on the wall made fun of the veggies marching around the city! Get it right!"
Hahaha :ursofunny
Dude - you crack me up. Well played.
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 04:14 PM
Interesting. Most of the kids I know are capable of sorting out fictionalized stories from the "real" ones (for sake of argument, we'll call the Bible stories "real". :)). So, how did those kids argue with you? "No, no, you left out the part where the French Peas on the wall made fun of the veggies marching around the city! Get it right!"
LOL, they just kept telling me that the book was wrong. They really thought they knew better from watching the Veggie Tales. Finally I got my sister, that they spend more time with, to tell them that the book was really true.
Again, I am not against the Veggie guys, I just have an opinion that differs from others. It doesn't bother me to be different. :nah I would have more appreciation for them if they just left Bible characters out of the story line, unless they are going to tell the truth about what happened to those characters.
Timmy
06-23-2009, 04:21 PM
LOL, they just kept telling me that the book was wrong. They really thought they knew better from watching the Veggie Tales. Finally I got my sister, that they spend more time with, to tell them that the book was really true.
Again, I am not against the Veggie guys, I just have an opinion that differs from others. It doesn't bother me to be different. :nah I would have more appreciation for them if they just left Bible characters out of the story line, unless they are going to tell the truth about what happened to those characters.
Hey, I can sure identify with that! :heeheehee
MissBrattified
06-23-2009, 04:25 PM
I was horrified when I watched them the first time. I had heard their music and it was cute, but if children watched them without having someone tell them the truth, they will have a very distorted view of God.
Horrified? I would be horrified if my kids were watching South Park. LOL!!! Are you sure you should be horrified? :coffee2
My children have watched Veggie Tales since they were little (the two oldest have really outgrown them), and I can assure you they do not have a distorted view of God, and IF they ever encounter an inconsistency, they are pragmatically corrected. But I usually don't bother, since they really do comprehend the difference between a dramatized version of a story, and the actual account.
It is absolutely no different than putting on a play about the birth of Christ and including dialogue between Joseph and Mary that isn't recorded in scripture, but simply in the mind of the author. Or what the shepherds might have said to one another after they saw the angels.
It has been a looooong time now, but I remember Jonah and the whale. The only thing similarity to the real Bible story was that there was a character named Jonah, he ended up in a fish and there was a town called Nineveh. That is what concerns me.
I personally wish they would just make cute cartoons about moral kid things and not try to tell "Bible stories" that have nothing to do with the Bible. Little kids get in their mind, after watching the same DVD a hundred times, that they learned a Bible story. If they don't go to church or go to a church that doesn't teach the Bible, but just preaches, they will have lies in their heads instead of truth.
It took me over a week to get one child to believe me over the DVD that the story of Esther that they saw was not in the Bible. Sad. Again, it could have been a cute story, if they had not implied it was in the Bible.
Why try to convince her that it wasn't in the Bible? Why not just read her the Bible story, with your own inflections, in an enjoyable story-telling way? My father used to tell me Bible stories all the time--with his own embellishments. There was nothing sad about it. I still have some of the 30 year old cassette tapes. What a treasure! :) When I got older and could read for myself, maturity took over and I was able to differentiate the "real" parts from the make-believe *fun* parts.
So, I guess I would say that I won't show these to any kids I keep. They imply that they are telling a Bible story and what they show is not even close to the truth.
Just my opinion I can see from what I have read here.
The Veggie Tales Jonah movie very effectively teaches the main point of the story--that people who repent of their sins will be forgiven and have a second chance. I'm quite happy for my children to learn such lessons. :thumbsup
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 04:50 PM
Horrified? I would be horrified if my kids were watching South Park. LOL!!! Are you sure you should be horrified?
I would not be horrified now, but I was back then. It seems from the way people are reacting to my opinion, that I am stepping on toes. I really had not intent on making my silly opinion such a big deal.
I am truly sorry if I have offended people here. I will leave it be now. I see how you guys have an appreciation for them, I simply do not. I don't think they are evil, I just think there are better things to be done with their time. Sorry. :blush
MissBrattified
06-23-2009, 05:01 PM
I would not be horrified now, but I was back then. It seems from the way people are reacting to my opinion, that I am stepping on toes. I really had not intent on making my silly opinion such a big deal.
I am truly sorry if I have offended people here. I will leave it be now. I see how you guys have an appreciation for them, I simply do not. I don't think they are evil, I just think there are better things to be done with their time. Sorry. :blush
I don't think you're offending anyone. :) Your opinion just seems a little extreme, in reference to Veggie Tales. If I could come up with some of the most wholesome shows out there for children, VT would be at the top of my list.
Further, it's the principle of it. Our church does dramatic productions from time to time, and we don't present the plays/skits verbatim as the Word presents the stories. People act out parts that aren't specifically spelled out in scripture, but everyone gets the overall point. I really don't see the harm in it. And in the case of the children you were talking about--if they don't come from a Christian home, then I would hesitate to criticize a positive influence that might make them more interested in God or His Word.
I'm not sure how you actually handled it, but if it ever comes up again, perhaps you could use it as a teaching opportunity. Kids need to know that there are a ZILLION different versions of history and Bible stories, but there's one main source. Refer them to the original story, and let them see if they can find the differences, or see if you can make the original story more interesting, adventurous and exciting than the *ahem* expanded version.
As far as your opinions being a big deal--whatever you post on the AFF, you should be prepared to have it challenged, and defend your views. That's just a way of life here. :D
Sherri
06-23-2009, 05:12 PM
I LOVE VEGGIE TALES and I'm 52 years old! I love the song videos that came out several years ago. My kids are so old now I don't even know what Veggie Tales are out now, but I have the old videos!
Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2009, 05:21 PM
My kids love the Adventures in Odyssey series. Those rock.
I love the Adventures in Odyssey series! Veggie Tales are stupid, but not a threat to the family.
I also remember listening to "Family Radio" when I was a kid-- staying up late to hear all the, "Unshackled" stories.
In fact, I rank my memories of listening to "Unshackled" as a kid higher than my memories of watching, "Alfred Hitchcock Presents."
MissBrattified
06-23-2009, 05:29 PM
I love the Adventures in Odyssey series! Veggie Tales are stupid, but not a threat to the family.
No, they're not!!!! They're actually witty. You have to pay attention to the dialogue. :foottap
But then, I love Wallace and Gromit, too, so I'm not sure what that says about my sophisticated taste. :D
I also remember listening to "Family Radio" when I was a kid-- staying up late to hear all the, "Unshackled" stories.
In fact, I rank my memories of listening to "Unshackled" as a kid higher than my memories of watching, "Alfred Hitchcock Presents."
I loved those! I grew up listening to Adventures in Odyssey, Unshackled, and a few other Saturday morning kids' shows. (Can't remember the names....) I also remember listening to Mystery Theater with my Dad! :thumbsup
Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2009, 05:34 PM
No, they're not!!!! They're actually witty. You have to pay attention to the dialogue. :foottap
But then, I love Wallace and Gromit, too, so I'm not sure what that says about my sophisticated taste. :D
I loved those! I grew up listening to Adventures in Odyssey, Unshackled, and a few other Saturday morning kids' shows. (Can't remember the names....) I also remember listening to Mystery Theater with my Dad! :thumbsup
If I could find a station playing Adventures in Odyssey here in Orlando, I'd listen to it every day!!!
Unshackled was more thrilling than the Twilight Zone for me.
It was the music, along with the narrator's voice-- I was always on the edge of my seat for Unshackled!
I can still hear that organ....
Sherri
06-23-2009, 05:45 PM
UNSHACKLED!!!! I had totally forgotten about that!
*AQuietPlace*
06-23-2009, 06:07 PM
If I could find a station playing Adventures in Odyssey here in Orlando, I'd listen to it every day!!!
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You can listen online.
Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2009, 06:18 PM
You can listen online.
not the same....
I've got to be in a moving car, preferrably my Aunt's gray Chevrolet "Rabbit" hatchback or in my own car.
Most of my memories of "Family Radio" stem from times riding in my Aunt's old car.
Not the same, but I'll give it a shot!
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 08:03 PM
No, they're not!!!! They're actually witty. You have to pay attention to the dialogue. :foottap
But then, I love Wallace and Gromit, too, so I'm not sure what that says about my sophisticated taste. :D
I loved those! I grew up listening to Adventures in Odyssey, Unshackled, and a few other Saturday morning kids' shows. (Can't remember the names....) I also remember listening to Mystery Theater with my Dad! :thumbsup
:thumbsup
You didn't steal my quote. I shared it. One of my favorite RWE quotes. You can modify your signature. lol
:thumbsup
commonsense
06-23-2009, 08:44 PM
I always listened to Unshackled. Can you imagine...radio!
I also loved Adventures in Odyssey.
****this is an unsolicited advertisement for Colorado Springs and Focus on the Family****
They have a childrens' section that includes Odyssey. Great fun for little ones and even big kids like me. :ursofunny
It "is" worth visiting. Stop and see the Air Force Academy as well.
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 08:06 AM
Well some people would make good hermits! I have NOT read the pro's and con's however kids will be kids...Been a lot of places where kids seemed to like Veggie tales...I personally have never read or listened to a Veggie tale...
I used to read Nancy Drew and the Hardy boys when I was growing up...! Still like a good mystery if I had the time...ha..
After I got older I read Grace L. Hill books...I have heard that preached against too...lol...
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 08:07 AM
Oh yes, growing up I managed to go visit an old sister that was shut in...of course it was always at the same time and the 3 stooges was on TV...lol....Mother only figured that one out after I was on the mission field!
OnTheFritz
06-24-2009, 08:56 AM
You didn't steal my quote. I shared it. One of my favorite RWE quotes. You can modify your signature. lol
:thumbsup
Jason B
06-24-2009, 06:21 PM
Has the person who expressed these views actually watched VT?
No. Which makes it all the more questionable of a claim.
The person that said this is a friend of mine, and someone I respect, but I strongly disagree on ths point. I was just wanting to get some other peoples views to see if anyone thought I was out of line or being stubborn by rejecting such a premise.
My journalism training makes me feel guilty if a quote is not properly accredited. I don't have a huge ego...
:thumbsup
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