View Full Version : Rex Johnson kind of church in Dallas area?
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 09:46 AM
Now that I have read that people really appreciate Rex Johnson in Austin TX, I wonder if there are any churches in the Dallas/Ft Worth area like his church? I guess really, it would be best if it were on the southeast side, more toward Arlington than Plano.
Paul Harvey
06-23-2009, 10:09 AM
http://www.alcplano.org/
crakjak
06-23-2009, 10:29 AM
Now that I have read that people really appreciate Rex Johnson in Austin TX, I wonder if there are any churches in the Dallas/Ft Worth area like his church? I guess really, it would be best if it were on the southeast side, more toward Arlington than Plano.
The Potter's House. :ursofunny
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 12:46 PM
The Potter's House. :ursofunny
Sorry, I don't get the joke. Can you explain it?
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 12:51 PM
http://www.alcplano.org/
I would imagine that is pretty accurate.
Falla39
06-23-2009, 01:07 PM
Toward Arlington I believe would be more to the west/southwest direction, I believe. Maybe Grand Prairie, Arlington, Hurst, Euless, or Ft. Worth.
Falla39
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 01:11 PM
Toward Arlington I believe would be more to the west/southwest direction, I believe. Maybe Grand Prairie, Arlington, Hurst, Euless, or Ft. Worth.
Falla39
LOL, yes it would. I didn't turn my brain on this morning at all.
Cindy
06-23-2009, 01:12 PM
What kind of church does Rex Johnson have?
SeekingOne
06-23-2009, 01:47 PM
What kind of church does Rex Johnson have?
I am not real sure. People were praising him in another thread as someone with integrity, with a UPC background (I think) and such. Since many seemed to think that was such a great church, I thought I would see what is in the Dallas area.
We don't live in Dallas, but we know some people there that are looking for a Spirit led church, rather than a doctrine led church. In other words, both the music and the preaching/teaching is led by the Spirit and not by some program or programming. ;-)
So far all they have found are extremes in both directions. They find the traditional UPC flavor with the outside being of the utmost importance and the Spirit filled churches that basically sing x number of songs, pass the plate and preach for 20 minutes.
I am just hoping for some suggestions for them. I will Email them the ones that have been suggested thus far. Driving is not a problem, it is just easier to be involved when the church is not across town.
Thanks to all who help.
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 02:20 PM
I go to ALC (alcplano.org). We do lean liberal on dress and such, but we are strong on doctrine, have great music and great people. If you want something further south, Foster's church is good, but much more traditional (www.dallasfirstchurch.com).
GraceAmazing
06-23-2009, 02:53 PM
Just curious, how liberal does ALC lean? I know Mangun's daughter is the pastor's wife there now...AM isn't liberal, so that makes me curious. I hope this is not an offensive question, I do not mean it as such!
Gracie,
Based on pics posted on the church website I would say pretty liberal for the UPC!!
crakjak
06-23-2009, 05:09 PM
Sorry, I don't get the joke. Can you explain it?
Well, the Potter's House is closer to Arlington than Plano, T.D. Jakes would welcome them. Most on this forum would not consider The Potter's House an option. Never mind, it really wasn't funny.:blush
Hoovie
06-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Well, the Potter's House is closer to Arlington than Plano, T.D. Jakes would welcome them. Most on this forum would not consider The Potter's House an option. Never mind, it really wasn't funny.:blush
I would not consider it - but not for the same reasons as most here wouldn't.
MissBrattified
06-23-2009, 05:21 PM
Gracie,
Based on pics posted on the church website I would say pretty liberal for the UPC!!
Based on the friend of a friend who attends there--I'd say they're pretty liberal. :)
Probably on par with Promiseland.
Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2009, 05:25 PM
Well, the Potter's House is closer to Arlington than Plano, T.D. Jakes would welcome them. Most on this forum would not consider The Potter's House an option. Never mind, it really wasn't funny.:blush
Why is that?
Judging from the pictures, and from their "What We Believe" statement, this church (ALCplano) can not be a part of the UPCI.
If so, how?
MissBrattified
06-23-2009, 05:32 PM
Why is that?
Judging from the pictures, and from their "What We Believe" statement, this church (ALCplano) can not be a part of the UPCI.
If so, how?
They're still listed in the directory....
crakjak
06-23-2009, 05:35 PM
I would not consider it - but not for the same reasons as most here wouldn't.
Jakes has built a huge community of believers, and I believe he is doing a commendable job in south Dallas.
crakjak
06-23-2009, 05:36 PM
Why is that?
Judging from the pictures, and from their "What We Believe" statement, this church (ALCplano) can not be a part of the UPCI.
If so, how?
Maybe because he is too liberal?? For many on AFF, though not for many. Like I said it wasn't funny.
Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2009, 05:36 PM
They're still listed in the directory....
This church's what we believe statement is about as "one-stepper" as you can get, without coming out and using the term.
From their website:
Salvation
We believe that all men have sinned and stand in need of redemption, which is obtained through the new birth by faith in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those repenting of sin and being born again become children of God and heirs with Christ.
The Holy Spirit
We believe that the Holy Spirit is active in the world today and that the baptism of the Holy Spirit, with His accompanying gifts, is the privilege of all New Testament believers.
I agree with this, but this isn't how the UPCI presents the Gospel of Christ.
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 08:12 PM
This church's what we believe statement is about as "one-stepper" as you can get, without coming out and using the term.
From their website:
Salvation
We believe that all men have sinned and stand in need of redemption, which is obtained through the new birth by faith in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those repenting of sin and being born again become children of God and heirs with Christ.
The Holy Spirit
We believe that the Holy Spirit is active in the world today and that the baptism of the Holy Spirit, with His accompanying gifts, is the privilege of all New Testament believers.
I agree with this, but this isn't how the UPCI presents the Gospel of Christ.
I'll save you the trouble of rehashing this... let me find the thread. :thumbsup
So, MissB. Who's your friend of a friend?
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 08:13 PM
Just curious, how liberal does ALC lean? I know Mangun's daughter is the pastor's wife there now...AM isn't liberal, so that makes me curious. I hope this is not an offensive question, I do not mean it as such!
No offense taken. Much more liberal ;)
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 08:20 PM
I'll save you the trouble of rehashing this... let me find the thread. :thumbsup
So, MissB. Who's your friend of a friend?
Ah yes, here it is...
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=17091&highlight=alcplano.org
MissBrattified
06-23-2009, 08:23 PM
I'll save you the trouble of rehashing this... let me find the thread. :thumbsup
So, MissB. Who's your friend of a friend?
PM incoming!
Hoovie
06-23-2009, 08:23 PM
Jakes has built a huge community of believers, and I believe he is doing a commendable job in south Dallas.
I am aware, and I agree - commendable.
Hoovie
06-23-2009, 08:24 PM
PM incoming!
i din't get it...
moniker
06-23-2009, 08:28 PM
http://www.calvaryftw.com/
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 08:41 PM
This church's what we believe statement is about as "one-stepper" as you can get, without coming out and using the term.
From their website:
Salvation
We believe that all men have sinned and stand in need of redemption, which is obtained through the new birth by faith in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those repenting of sin and being born again become children of God and heirs with Christ.
The Holy Spirit
We believe that the Holy Spirit is active in the world today and that the baptism of the Holy Spirit, with His accompanying gifts, is the privilege of all New Testament believers.
I agree with this, but this isn't how the UPCI presents the Gospel of Christ.
Oh, and by the way. We are not one-steppers. We DO, however, believe in presenting a simple message to non-church people that visit the website (the target audience, after all) - and that is that they need God, and we're there to help them find Him.
But what is preached is once they get in the door is pentecostal doctrine. I understand the arguments that you should just "lay it all out there". I get it. I understand that opinion. Maybe it's valid. Alternatively, I think there is a lot of validity to this approach.
I don't speak for my pastor or the church - these are just my thoughts.
:thumbsup
Jermyn Davidson
06-23-2009, 08:47 PM
Ah yes, here it is...
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=17091&highlight=alcplano.org
Oh wow.
I remember this thread!!!
Ok, so these folks really preach and teach something a little bit different from what the website represents.
Thanks for the correction!!!
GraceAmazing
06-23-2009, 09:58 PM
Gracie,
Based on pics posted on the church website I would say pretty liberal for the UPC!!
I know that, but you know what they do sometimes CC1...post all those pictures on there to make us here liberal ones feel welcome! :D:D:D
GraceAmazing
06-23-2009, 10:00 PM
No offense taken. Much more liberal ;)
That's awesome! Maybe one day if we're in the area, we'll check it out!
GraceAmazing
06-23-2009, 10:01 PM
Is Mesquite, Texas close to Dallas??? If so, there's Peace Church pastored by Jim Baker...Not sure how close that is tho...
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 10:05 PM
That's awesome! Maybe one day if we're in the area, we'll check it out!
Would love to have you. We just moved into a new building (well .. new to us) :thumbsup
OnTheFritz
06-23-2009, 10:05 PM
Is Mesquite, Texas close to Dallas??? If so, there's Peace Church pastored by Jim Baker...Not sure how close that is tho...
Yes, it's basically just to the northeast of Dallas. It's a very close suburb.
Sarah
06-24-2009, 04:45 AM
Would love to have you. We just moved into a new building (well .. new to us) :thumbsup
I've seen the building, but didn't know you had already moved into it!
It's huge.
Rhoni
06-24-2009, 09:27 AM
There is a really good church in Richardson, TX. Pastored by Rev. George Hancock, and Bishop John Kershaw. They run approx 450 and although card carrying UPCI it is a strong doctrinal church with a moderate-liberal standard of dress. A good mixture of conservative to liberal. I recommend this church...Christian World.
Blessings, Rhoni
OnTheFritz
06-24-2009, 10:42 AM
I've seen the building, but didn't know you had already moved into it!
It's huge.
It actually doesn't seat a lot more in the sanctuary, but the property is really large and we now have better facilities for Sunday school, youth, etc.
OnTheFritz
06-24-2009, 10:43 AM
There is a really good church in Richardson, TX. Pastored by Rev. George Hancock, and Bishop John Kershaw. They run approx 450 and although card carrying UPCI it is a strong doctrinal church with a moderate-liberal standard of dress. A good mixture of conservative to liberal. I recommend this church...Christian World.
Blessings, Rhoni
That is a very good church. I have many friends that attend there. I have always thought of them as pretty conservative, but I haven't actually been in a while.
Scott Hutchinson
06-24-2009, 10:58 AM
http://www.peacechurchministries.com/
Scott Hutchinson
06-24-2009, 10:59 AM
I posted the link to the congregation of Peace church.
Sandra
06-24-2009, 12:43 PM
Now that I have read that people really appreciate Rex Johnson in Austin TX, I wonder if there are any churches in the Dallas/Ft Worth area like his church? I guess really, it would be best if it were on the southeast side, more toward Arlington than Plano.
Jeff Hennigan
Sandra
06-24-2009, 12:44 PM
What kind of church does Rex Johnson have?
Very balanced... I will be there July 5th yeah!!!
Sandra
06-24-2009, 12:45 PM
Just curious, how liberal does ALC lean? I know Mangun's daughter is the pastor's wife there now...AM isn't liberal, so that makes me curious. I hope this is not an offensive question, I do not mean it as such!
Jeff H. is on a different page than AM from what I can tell.
SeekingOne
06-24-2009, 12:51 PM
Jeff H. is on a different page than AM from what I can tell.
I don't know who Jeff is or what the AM is, sorry. How does one find Jeff's church? You are dealing with someone that did not grow up in the UPC or any denomination for that matter. LOL I am learning some of the jargon from you guys, but I don't understand all of it yet. :blush
MissBrattified
06-24-2009, 12:53 PM
I don't know who Jeff is or what the AM is, sorry. How does one find Jeff's church? You are dealing with someone that did not grow up in the UPC or any denomination for that matter. LOL I am learning some of the jargon from you guys, but I don't understand all of it yet. :blush
Jeff Hennigan pastors the church in Plano; AM is "Anthony Mangun"--Jeff's father-in-law.
SeekingOne
06-24-2009, 03:38 PM
Jeff Hennigan pastors the church in Plano; AM is "Anthony Mangun"--Jeff's father-in-law.
Oh, thanks for filling me in. I guess maybe she will come back and tell me the name of the church another time.
Raven
06-24-2009, 03:55 PM
There is a really good church in Richardson, TX. Pastored by Rev. George Hancock, and Bishop John Kershaw. They run approx 450 and although card carrying UPCI it is a strong doctrinal church with a moderate-liberal standard of dress. A good mixture of conservative to liberal. I recommend this church...Christian World.
Blessings, Rhoni
John Kershaw is a great man and tremendous preacher! I first heard him preach when I was about 6 years old and then later had dinner with him and his wife at my grandmother's house. Great memories!
Raven
Pragmatist
06-24-2009, 03:55 PM
http://www.alcplano.org/
This is the link to the Plano church. It is called Abundant Life Church.
MissBrattified
06-24-2009, 03:56 PM
Oh, thanks for filling me in. I guess maybe she will come back and tell me the name of the church another time.
Abundant Life Church -
www.alcplano.org
SeekingOne
06-24-2009, 04:28 PM
Oh, someone else sent me that link. I sent it on the the people in Dallas. I told them to let me know what they think of the four churches people have told me about so far.
Rudena
07-28-2013, 11:43 AM
http://www.upci.com/churchlocator/searchBy_City.aspx
http://www.upci.com/churchlocator/searchBy_City.aspx
OnTheFritz
07-28-2013, 01:41 PM
http://www.upci.com/churchlocator/searchBy_City.aspx
http://www.upci.com/churchlocator/searchBy_City.aspx
Your response is only 4 years too late. :happydance
Your response is only 4 years too late. :happydance
Plus just putting a link to the UPCI church locator is no answer to the question! 99.6% of UPC churches are NOT like Rex Johnson's church!
Pressing-On
07-28-2013, 06:46 PM
Plus just putting a link to the UPCI church locator is no answer to the question! 99.6% of UPC churches are NOT like Rex Johnson's church!
Very true. I might add that Rex Johnson's preaching style and content hasn't changed in the 23 years we have been gone. We left about six months after he got there, job transfer, but he is still the same.
Here are his Podcasts for anyone interested.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/christian-life-austin/id559933286
http://www.calvaryftw.com/#/welcome
700 McPherson Road
Fort Worth, Tx 76140
Sr. Pastor Ron Lyles
Pastor Tommy Brandon
817.293.7103
This church is to your west but not far off I-20.
I suspect this would be the church Brother Rex would tell you to go to. Brother Lyles and Brother Johnson are great friends. have much the same approach and
Brother Brandon is as great a guy as you will ever find. I cant say enough good about him.
I suspect you would find this church is very much the same in many many ways to Christian Live Church in Austin.
Your response is only 4 years too late. :happydance
LOL! did I just do that? did I just give a recomendation to a question from 4 years ago????
LOLOLOL!!!!
Well, I stand by my recomendation. if you are in the south Dallas/FT Worth area and are looking for a Rexy-Dale style church, then Tommy Brandon in South Ft. Worth is the ticket!
http://www.calvaryftw.com/#/welcome
700 McPherson Road
Fort Worth, Tx 76140
Sr. Pastor Ron Lyles
Pastor Tommy Brandon
817.293.7103
This church is to your west but not far off I-20.
I suspect this would be the church Brother Rex would tell you to go to. Brother Lyles and Brother Johnson are great friends. have much the same approach and
Brother Brandon is as great a guy as you will ever find. I cant say enough good about him.
I suspect you would find this church is very much the same in many many ways to Christian Live Church in Austin.
Great suggestion. The funny thing is that I had just thought of it and was going to post it then saw you had already done so.
if I recall correctly this church and pastor are also an example of conservative UPCer's over reaching and forcing a pastor and church out of the org. due to enforcing a "standard" rule.
Great suggestion. The funny thing is that I had just thought of it and was going to post it then saw you had already done so.
if I recall correctly this church and pastor are also an example of conservative UPCer's over reaching and forcing a pastor and church out of the org. due to enforcing a "standard" rule.
iamnotgoingtotalkabouthat? LOL!
iamnotgoingtotalkabouthat? LOL!
Are you sure you don't want to talk about how some podunk clothes line preaching pastor pestered the tx board to come down on Pastor RL for making reference to a favorite tv show on the church website resulting in the church disaffiliating from the UPC? LOL
Are you sure you don't want to talk about how some podunk clothes line preaching pastor pestered the tx board to come down on Pastor RL for making reference to a favorite tv show on the church website resulting in the church disaffiliating from the UPC? LOL
you mean the man who would become Texas District Superintendant?
you mean the man who would become Texas District Superintendant?
I guess he was serious when he sent that letter out!!
Jason B
07-29-2013, 09:52 PM
Now that I have read that people really appreciate Rex Johnson in Austin TX, I wonder if there are any churches in the Dallas/Ft Worth area like his church? I guess really, it would be best if it were on the southeast side, more toward Arlington than Plano.
Rock Church?
http://rockchurcharlington.org/
Jason B
07-29-2013, 09:55 PM
Sorry, just realized this thread was 4 years old.
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