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moniker
06-24-2009, 10:00 AM
In a Christian sense, how do Apostolics define liberty and legalism?
What is Christian liberty?
What is legalism?
Timmy
06-24-2009, 10:09 AM
:popcorn2
mfblume
06-24-2009, 10:10 AM
Legalism is technically a living by laws and rules in order to progress. This is an absolute MUST in secular society! Imagine a nation without law! However, legalism is not for the Church.
Legalism was only used twice. Once was in the time before Adam fell into sin, and then secondly during Old Mosaic Covenant in the Bible. Adam was told to not eat the forbidden fruit. GRACE was not involved in that at all, and since Adam was not sinful, he did not require grace. But when Mosaic law arrived on the scene, God used a legalistic system with people who were sinful, and it could not work. And God knew that. But the New Testament says that God did it this way in order to instruct mankind as to how sinful sin really is, by having man realize he cannot keep rules and thereby serve God without grace. So, God was preparing Israel for the coming of Grace with the fullness of Christ.
Legalism is involved in Christianity where this concept of Grace is not fully understood. In the church, legalism is a no-no. Living by rules implies we do not need the strength of God and His divine empowerment, but only the mere information of what is right and wrong in order for us to do the right and avoid the wrong. Legalism has no faith in the fact that God actually empowers believers by His Spirit to live the resultant life that Law and its legalism tried to accomplish. (See 1 Tim 1:5, 14 compare with Rom 8:3-4 & Gal 5:23).
Legalism is basically self making self progress in serving God without the empowerment of the Spirit, whereas Christian liberty does not condone sin any more than Law did, but it accomplishes the results Law could not accomplish in having us successfully serve God by believing God to actually empower us by His Spirit to live righteously.
KWSS1976
06-24-2009, 10:10 AM
Timmy you might be eating alot of popcorn on this one..LOL
Timmy
06-24-2009, 10:12 AM
I better make a Sam's Club run! :lol
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 10:25 AM
send me some popcorn to eat with you folks...I was wanting some yesterday but didn't have time to go to the store...
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 10:28 AM
liberty and legalism
well liberty is what you like to do...
legalism is what you do not like to do so you preach against it...
Boy that was deep...Timmy hope you got that one! By the way Happy belated Birthday...
*AQuietPlace*
06-24-2009, 10:34 AM
liberty and legalism
well liberty is what you like to do...
legalism is what you do not like to do so you preach against it...
:ursofunny
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 10:35 AM
sure can tell I am feeling better today! ha...
mfblume
06-24-2009, 10:35 AM
liberty and legalism
well liberty is what you like to do...
legalism is what you do not like to do so you preach against it...
That is quite the thought! lol. So true in some circles!
That reminds me of the country-and-wester-music-lover preachers who preached against contemporary music since they naturally did not like it. They like gospel that is country-and-western.
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 10:36 AM
like one of my friends told me Disney is a sin but Epcot is ok...I told her I remember when it was all at Disney! lol...
mfblume
06-24-2009, 10:37 AM
Yeah, or theaters are a sin, but I-Max is okay.
Sister Alvear
06-24-2009, 10:37 AM
That is quite the thought! lol. So true in some circles!
That reminds me of the country-and-wester-music-lover preachers who preached against contemporary music since they naturally did not like it. They like gospel that is country-and-western.
I am really getting deep in my studies won't be long till we can debate end times! ha...love you , pastor Blume.
mfblume
06-24-2009, 10:38 AM
I am really getting deep in my studies won't be long till we can debate end times! ha...love you , pastor Blume.
HAHA~! Love you, too, sister Alvear.
Timmy
06-24-2009, 11:01 AM
liberty and legalism
well liberty is what you like to do...
legalism is what you do not like to do so you preach against it...
Boy that was deep...Timmy hope you got that one! By the way Happy belated Birthday...
I think you hit the nail on the head!
For the hbb, ty! :)
Glad you're feeling better. :)
Timmy
06-24-2009, 11:02 AM
like one of my friends told me Disney is a sin but Epcot is ok...I told her I remember when it was all at Disney! lol...
Did ya know they serve alcohol at Epcot, but not at Disneyland? :hmmm
mfblume
06-24-2009, 11:39 AM
Some erringly claim legalism is when someone is angry and hollers at people to do things, whereas there are some very kind and loving legalists.
And others erringly claim Christian Liberty is wanting an excuse to sin, when Paul spoke of liberty that must not condone sin.
False liberty brings one into bondage of the flesh!
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