View Full Version : michael jackson in state ?
oletime
06-26-2009, 07:36 PM
the mayor of gary indiana is reported to say he wants him to lie in state in gary is he kidding? he aint no president ,or king ,whatever. some peoples kids !!! how much worse can it get?
Sister Alvear
06-26-2009, 07:52 PM
is that where he is from?
jezebelslayer
06-26-2009, 07:55 PM
the mayor of gary indiana is reported to say he wants him to lie in state in gary is he kidding? he aint no president ,or king ,whatever. some peoples kids !!! how much worse can it get?
What exactly is your problem with any of this? You do not have to attend nor do you have to watch on tv if televised!
oletime
06-26-2009, 08:09 PM
is that where he is from?
yes sis he is from gary i guess.a pedofile multi times over charged or settled out of court each time and they want to accord him the highest honor very poor taste in my opinion.
dllong
06-26-2009, 08:27 PM
Who is Michael Jackson?
oletime
06-26-2009, 08:32 PM
i love it, serious or not!
Who is Michael Jackson?
:ursofunny
You get the award for the "QUOTE OF THE DAY!"
Tim Rutledge
06-26-2009, 08:36 PM
Who is Michael Jackson?
:thumbsup
:thumbsup
:thumbsup
What exactly is your problem with any of this? You do not have to attend nor do you have to watch on tv if televised!
It might be a problem for some taxpayers in Indiana to see their tax dollars spent that way.
Cindy
06-26-2009, 09:03 PM
Who is Michael Jackson?
:ursofunny
Cindy
06-26-2009, 09:03 PM
It might be a problem for some taxpayers in Indiana to see their tax dollars spent that way.
Maybe they could send him to Memphis.
electric.S10
06-26-2009, 10:18 PM
Maybe they could send him to Memphis.
That's better than us IN taxpayers footing the bill . Leave him in L.A. .That has been where he has been calling home. :thumbsup:thumbsup
PraiseHymn
06-27-2009, 12:36 AM
Might do the economy some good for something of this magnitude to be held in Gary, IN. What a pilgrimage that would be (lol)
The Jackson's have not lived in Gary for 40+ years but the town was proud of their success. Particularly since there is not much to be proud of in Gary as it is a former Steel town on hard times for many years with an incredibly high crime rate, corruption, etc.
I have a feeling MJ will not have an open casket memorial / funeral and it will be in Los Angeles where he spent most of his life.I am guessing he will be interred at Forest Lawn.
jaxfam6
06-27-2009, 09:30 AM
Maybe he will be buried at Neverland.
MawMaw
06-27-2009, 12:18 PM
I don't believe he owns the Neverland Ranch anymore. I think it was sold to pay some taxes he owed?
I heard today that the family is trying to decide on whether to have his funeral made public or keep it private.
Digging4Truth
06-27-2009, 02:43 PM
I don't believe he owns the Neverland Ranch anymore. I think it was sold to pay some taxes he owed?
I heard today that the family is trying to decide on whether to have his funeral made public or keep it private.
They should keep it private. It will be a circus otherwise.
Truthseeker
06-27-2009, 02:57 PM
Your prejudice, you against it only because he used to be a black man. typical.
:) :thumbsup:foottap:smack:ursofunny:gotcha:spit
Jermyn Davidson
06-27-2009, 04:53 PM
yes sis he is from gary i guess.a pedofile multi times over charged or settled out of court each time and they want to accord him the highest honor very poor taste in my opinion.
He wasn't a pedophile.
His accusers were vile, money grubbing parasites! They share in the blame as to how this man was broken.
What parent in their right mind, with pure motives, would allow their child (children) to spend time alone with a man who was even accused of child molestation in the first place?
After the 1st accusation, it would have been impossible for me to subject my child to that.
But person after person allowed their children to spend alone time Michael Jackson because if one person can sue and get a lot of money in an out of court settlement, then they all can!
Besides, the fact that there were out of court settlements with these parents only solidify one fact-- the parasites were after his money!
Michael Jackson wasn't right in his head. However, that grown man is responsible for his bizarre actions!
Even so, his false accusers will be visited for the evil they did to that man.
He wasn't a pedophile.
His accusers were vile, money grubbing parasites! They share in the blame as to how this man was broken.
What parent in their right mind, with pure motives, would allow their child (children) to spend time alone with a man who was even accused of child molestation in the first place?
After the 1st accusation, it would have been impossible for me to subject my child to that.
But person after person allowed their children to spend alone time Michael Jackson because if one person can sue and get a lot of money in an out of court settlement, then they all can!
Besides, the fact that there were out of court settlements with these parents only solidify one fact-- the parasites were after his money!
Michael Jackson wasn't right in his head. However, that grown man is responsible for his bizarre actions!
Even so, his false accusers will be visited for the evil they did to that man.
You can't make a pronouncement "He wasn't a pedophile". Do you have some sort of special pedophile detector?? :ursofunny However, you are correct in saying that the parents of these kids were idiots/out for money. At least after he was accused the first time. Hard to say about the first incident.
Light
06-27-2009, 05:37 PM
He wasn't a pedophile.
His accusers were vile, money grubbing parasites! They share in the blame as to how this man was broken.
What parent in their right mind, with pure motives, would allow their child (children) to spend time alone with a man who was even accused of child molestation in the first place?
After the 1st accusation, it would have been impossible for me to subject my child to that.
But person after person allowed their children to spend alone time Michael Jackson because if one person can sue and get a lot of money in an out of court settlement, then they all can!
Besides, the fact that there were out of court settlements with these parents only solidify one fact-- the parasites were after his money!
Michael Jackson wasn't right in his head. However, that grown man is responsible for his bizarre actions!
Even so, his false accusers will be visited for the evil they did to that man.
Hey he is no different that a man who pays a woman for sex. He just paid the parent of these children for his sick sex.
oletime
06-27-2009, 06:49 PM
Hey he is no different that a man who pays a woman for sex. He just paid the parent of these children for his sick sex.
jd you said in the first line he wasnt a pedofile, but in the last line you said he paid their parents for his sick sex. not sure what your trying to say,did that come out the way you intended ?
oletime
06-27-2009, 06:55 PM
He wasn't a pedophile.
His accusers were vile, money grubbing parasites! They share in the blame as to how this man was broken.
What parent in their right mind, with pure motives, would allow their child (children) to spend time alone with a man who was even accused of child molestation in the first place?
After the 1st accusation, it would have been impossible for me to subject my child to that.
But person after person allowed their children to spend alone time Michael Jackson because if one person can sue and get a lot of money in an out of court settlement, then they all can!
Besides, the fact that there were out of court settlements with these parents only solidify one fact-- the parasites were after his money!
Michael Jackson wasn't right in his head. However, that grown man is responsible for his bizarre actions!
Even so, his false accusers will be visited for the evil they did to that man.
jd you said in the first line he wasnt a pedofile yet in the last line you said he paid the parents for his sick sex. did that come out the way you intended ? please explain
Hey he is no different that a man who pays a woman for sex. He just paid the parent of these children for his sick sex.
and what does that say about the pimping parents?
OnTheFritz
06-27-2009, 11:00 PM
jd you said in the first line he wasnt a pedofile yet in the last line you said he paid the parents for his sick sex. did that come out the way you intended ? please explain
Hmm. Read again. Different people.
oletime
06-28-2009, 03:26 AM
my bad jd i got 19 and24 combined i guess my question then would be why is he not a pedofile in your estimation
Jermyn Davidson
06-28-2009, 05:08 PM
my bad jd i got 19 and24 combined i guess my question then would be why is he not a pedofile in your estimation
There are ways to thoroughly convict for someone accused and guilty of that criminal act.
Besides, if you REALLY believed your kid was molested, how much money would it take to make you look the other way?
How much is the innocence and purity of your children worth to you?
I make the pronouncement that he wasn't a pedophile and will continue to do so.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
The parasites played a role in the destruction of that human being.
oletime
06-28-2009, 07:41 PM
i understand what your saying about people can be parasites but he was about to be afforded the trial process in the first case when someone came up withe 22 million offer to make it go away and this happened 4 times from everything i read the evidence was overwhelming the private flights on airplanes and plying the children with what he called jesus juice it seems to me that anyone who has any form of sex with a child is a pedofile apparently you feel entrapment nulifies that? i just have a hard time seeing how multiple parents can send children into that situation and teach them to entrap i also understand how kids want to please adults and can be lead to say something happend when it didnt [it happened in this area with a police officer who lost his career he was later exonerated and given a million bucks] ps the city in this state believe it or not demanded that he take penile plythismograph test im not kidding this is where a university professor shows you different kinds of porn while an electrode is connected to you to measure your excitement ,i cant describe it any different without being crude, of course he refused and was terminated as a result and he sued on that basis and everything else i certainly hope that wasnt what happened here with the leading questions etc.
freeatlast
06-28-2009, 07:44 PM
There are ways to thoroughly convict for someone accused and guilty of that criminal act.
Besides, if you REALLY believed your kid was molested, how much money would it take to make you look the other way?
How much is the innocence and purity of your children worth to you?
I make the pronouncement that he wasn't a pedophile and will continue to do so.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
The parasites played a role in the destruction of that human being.
Yup..OJ Simpson got a bum rap too.
Jermyn Davidson
06-29-2009, 05:13 PM
Yup..OJ Simpson got a bum rap too.
he's in jail already. aren't you satisfied?
besides O.J and M.J. are two vastly different men representing two vastly different cases.
People "hear" that evidence was overwhelming against M.J., but NO ONE knows that for sure-- except the people directly connected to the case.
Notice how that the victim's family in the O.J. case never stopped until their idea of justice was served.
HOW MUCH IS THE INNOCENCE AND PURITY OF ONE'S CHILDREN WORTH TO A PARENT?
20 million?
30 million?
"Sure M.J. you can have my child for a night for 40 million dollars! I've always liked your music anyway-- and I won't worry about the trauma I'm causing you with my accusations and theft. After all, you're M.J!! You can make the money I'm about to steal from you back in a summer anyway!"
Reads absurd, doesn't it? This is EXACTLY what happened.
The parasites played a role in the destruction of that human being! I hope they are proud of themselves!
jaxfam6
06-29-2009, 05:21 PM
There are ways to thoroughly convict for someone accused and guilty of that criminal act.
Besides, if you REALLY believed your kid was molested, how much money would it take to make you look the other way?
How much is the innocence and purity of your children worth to you?
I make the pronouncement that he wasn't a pedophile and will continue to do so.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
The parasites played a role in the destruction of that human being.
You really have hit something there. I have always wondered about that.
Do I personally believe something was going on? Yes, my opinion, but why would parents allow their kids to be in a situation with a person when these things came up on more than one occasion. If he paid them for silence then they are worse than he was. If he paid them to just go away and they were not true he was more stupid than I gave him credit for being.
Jermyn Davidson
06-29-2009, 06:00 PM
I have a hard time calling him stupid, but it's only because I respect him so much.
Part of the reason, I think, he paid these folks off is because it's impossible for most folks to understand how a man who had his childhood ripped from him could experience the level of worldly success he experienced and still want more.
What he wanted, he could never get back.
He kept trying-- he thought he could buy it.
He thought he could buy acceptance, after all, his idea of being accepted as a person and person only was warped from childhood.
I think MJ physically slept in the same bed as children-- but not for the purpose of sex with them.
The man was hurting and broken, long before he ever became a man.
In fact, somewhere inside, there was a little boy who never got the chance to really mature.
He lived and died a sad little boy.
Had he been saved when he died, he would have at least had a chance of knowing true acceptance and true love.
Instead, he died sad and alone.
oletime
06-29-2009, 07:56 PM
i think i might have said it before on another thread he was being interviewed one time when he said im so lonely sometimes i just walk around my neighborhood looking for someone to talk to there is no one he said so i just go home alone .. he was 23 so sad ! kids were all that would except him with no preconditions wanting nothing from him everyone else was looking to score the final outrage was when they said he was renting this home for 100.000 a month local real estate agents said no way is that worth more than 25000 tops turns out it was louis farakan and his outfit that was renting to him as a middle man.unreal
*AQuietPlace*
06-29-2009, 08:40 PM
I don't suppose we'll ever know if he was a pedophile or not. He was certainly a very mentally disturbed individual. Very.
RandyWayne
06-29-2009, 08:43 PM
I don't suppose we'll ever know if he was a pedophile or not. He was certainly a very mentally disturbed individual. Very.
As are ALL who are worshiped as a god! Hint hint
(Except for God Himself of course....)
HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE VULTURES HAVE ALREADY GATHERED AROUND THE DEAD BODY TO BEGIN FIGHTING OVER MJ'S RICHES!!!
Here comes the circus to town as they fight over the money!!!!
Seems it is always about money!!!!
RandyWayne
06-29-2009, 10:58 PM
HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE VULTURES HAVE ALREADY GATHERED AROUND THE DEAD BODY TO BEGIN FIGHTING OVER MJ'S RICHES!!!
Here comes the circus to town as they fight over the money!!!!
Seems it is always about money!!!!
"And when the ins come around like buzzards for the kill, I see my reflection in their envious eyes but whats it all worth to buy another sunrise?"
Measure of My Success - Steve Taylor
Timmy
06-30-2009, 10:04 AM
As are ALL who are worshiped as a god! Hint hint
(Except for God Himself of course....)
That triggered a little thought experiment in my mind. Couldn't help it. It's how my mind works!
If God were mentally ill, how could we tell? :hmmm
Sister Alvear
06-30-2009, 10:24 AM
Timmy...Timmy...
Timmy
06-30-2009, 12:23 PM
:D
Mercy
06-30-2009, 01:35 PM
I said the same thing this weekend. I miss him. Of all the things I have read about him my entire life, I have always prayed his heart could be healed, because it was so obvious to me he was hurting. Even though everyone judged him, I almost understood why he did some of the "strange" things he did.
Between him and another Neo Soul singer (Maxwell) I always pray(ed) to meet them...because I want(ed) to offer something to them...a chance for love and acceptance from the One, the only One that could give it.
At least there is still time for such an encounter with Maxwell. Even though I think I would faint first. :thumbsup (j/k)
I have a hard time calling him stupid, but it's only because I respect him so much.
Part of the reason, I think, he paid these folks off is because it's impossible for most folks to understand how a man who had his childhood ripped from him could experience the level of worldly success he experienced and still want more.
What he wanted, he could never get back.
He kept trying-- he thought he could buy it.
He thought he could buy acceptance, after all, his idea of being accepted as a person and person only was warped from childhood.
I think MJ physically slept in the same bed as children-- but not for the purpose of sex with them.
The man was hurting and broken, long before he ever became a man.
In fact, somewhere inside, there was a little boy who never got the chance to really mature.
He lived and died a sad little boy.
Had he been saved when he died, he would have at least had a chance of knowing true acceptance and true love.
Instead, he died sad and alone.
RandyWayne
06-30-2009, 07:10 PM
My big question is: Will Elton John sing yet another version of Candle in the Wind for MJ?
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