The Latest from the "Holiness Police"

[MrMasterMind]

This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"

[GrowingPains]

This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"

May I introduce these others to FB privacy controls?

[RandyWayne]

Man, I keep hoping one of the holiness officers would befriend me! I have a WHOLE BUNCH of Jamaican pictures I'd love to show them and have plastered on the next issue of whatever conservative rag that wishes to publish them. :)

[MissBrattified]

May I introduce these others to FB privacy controls?

I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

[GrowingPains]

I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

And if I had enough time in my life to straighten them all out, I certainly would. So, for individuals I don't know too well, don't trust too well, they are certainly restricted in what they can see.

[RandyWayne]

I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

When people are that uptight, ya just gotta have fun with them!

[MrMasterMind]

When people are that uptight, ya just gotta have fun with them!

I would pick a different word than uptight, lol. However, as far as the ya just gotta have fun with them, that's my job.

:thumbsup

I clearly differentiate between men of conviction and holiness police though.

[MikeinAR]

Man, I keep hoping one of the holiness officers would befriend me! I have a WHOLE BUNCH of Jamaican pictures I'd love to show them and have plastered on the next issue of whatever conservative rag that wishes to publish them. :)

You big show off, you just want them to all see your huge biceps and 6 pack. :ursofunny

I agree with Miss Brat. I restrict my photo albums on Facebook to friends only because I don't really see the need for people that I don't know to peruse through my pics.

[RandyWayne]

I would pick a different word than uptight, lol. However, as far as the ya just gotta have fun with them, that's my job.

:thumbsup

I clearly differentiate between men of conviction and holiness police though.

I was going to say anal, but "uptight" just sounded better. :)

[MrMasterMind]

You big show off, you just want them to all see your huge biceps and 6 pack. :ursofunny

I agree with Miss Brat. I restrict my photo albums on Facebook to friends only because I don't really see the need for people that I don't know to peruse through my pics.

Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

[MikeinAR]

Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

Yeah that would be pretty pathetic and ridiculous. In that case, I hope those people are "former" friends after acting that childish.

[oletime]

This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"
Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

[MrMasterMind]

Yeah that would be pretty pathetic and ridiculous. In that case, I hope those people are "former" friends after acting that childish.

So far they are mostly targeting preachers.

With all their TALK about abominations- Deut. 22:5, they forget this one-Prob 6:16-19

[RandyWayne]

Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

This is the type of picture the would find if they "tricked" me. :)

(WARNING: If you are offended by images of man showing skin above the elbow or a woman's midriff DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK! You have been warned!!!) It is us at Dunns River Falls in Jamaica.
http://randyandgail.com/DSC02892.JPG

Can you see this pic on the cover of the latest issue of the Apostolic Contender?

[MrMasterMind]

Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

First of all, there is an obvious disagreement on what is appropriate. Secondly, you are obviously missing the point, no flaunting involved. Friend request followed by searching for something wrong. Hence Holiness Police.

[Sister Alvear]

sick minds...lol...

[GrowingPains]

This is the type of picture the would find if they "tricked" me. :)

(WARNING: If you are offended by images of man showing skin above the elbow or a woman's midriff DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK! You have been warned!!!) It is us at Dunns River Falls in Jamaica.
http://randyandgail.com/DSC02892.JPG

Can you see this pic on the cover of the latest issue of the Apostolic Contender?

Wow, Ron. I don't know what to say about that... boldness or sloppiness?

You just made public a photo of your wife in clothing closely related to a bra.

Okay... still trying to reconcile that. Love you anyways.

[RandyWayne]

It's actually "Randy" and it is not immodest (in our opinion) and presented ONLY as a link (meaning it takes the effort to actually click on it).
(And in Jamaica, we were far more modest than many others!)

But..... it is in the spirit of providing fodder for those looking for ammo to bring to their superiors in a "na na na na naa naa!" sort of way.

[jaxfam6]

Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

oh good, I need to pull out my Pismo Beach pics and post then. Give them LOTS to talk about.

[GraceAmazing]

Actually in case this it is people you DO know, honored their friend request, and then they thumb through albums looking for things were they can run tell their con friends how backsliden you are.

This actually happened to me. I got a nasty message in my inbox about how I was "looked up" to and I had totally let them and God down, not to mention my family. Really upset me...for a few minutes :D

People...you just can't predict them!!

[Sister Alvear]

People can be sooooooooooooo cruel...

[rgcraig]

That is really sad.

[oletime]

First of all, there is an obvious disagreement on what is appropriate. Secondly, you are obviously missing the point, no flaunting involved. Friend request followed by searching for something wrong. Hence Holiness Police.

instead of holiness police how about aquaintances that are nosy troublemakers trying to draw attention away from what they just got caught doing ? at which point they would cease to be even an aquaintance.

[HopePreacher]

This actually happened to me. I got a nasty message in my inbox about how I was "looked up" to and I had totally let them and God down, not to mention my family. Really upset me...for a few minutes :D

People...you just can't predict them!!

Oh, I don't know... I have found it pretty easy to predict people. First, look at who they admire, then look at who they consider their mentor; then look at where they get their spiritual inspiration.... then you can pretty well predict how they will respond.

[Praxeas]

This post was copied from FB with permission from the author:


"It seems the latest fad among the “holiness police” is to send FB friend requests for the sole purpose of scouring photos so they can then hold cabals to assassinate both character and ministries-(aka “lamenting lack of standards”)

How truly frightening it must be to live in a siege “hold the fort” mentality, sitting around wondering who will be the next to be picked off.

How sad to reduce the concept to Holiness before God to compliance with a rulebook based on 50 year old North American “distinctives”.

Lord forgive them and grant them peace and a true understanding of Your love and holiness, in the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen"
What is an FB?

[mizpeh]

What is an FB?Facebook

[MrMasterMind]

This actually happened to me. I got a nasty message in my inbox about how I was "looked up" to and I had totally let them and God down, not to mention my family. Really upset me...for a few minutes :D

People...you just can't predict them!!

Truly sad I have had three pastors PM me that this has happened to them as well, from people they thought were friends.

[tv1a]

It is obvious inappropriateness is extremely subjective. To have the God Squad looking trouble is more disturbing than the "inappropriateness".

Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

[TJJJ]

This is the type of picture the would find if they "tricked" me. :)

(WARNING: If you are offended by images of man showing skin above the elbow or a woman's midriff DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK! You have been warned!!!) It is us at Dunns River Falls in Jamaica.
http://randyandgail.com/DSC02892.JPG

Can you see this pic on the cover of the latest issue of the Apostolic Contender?

Randy,

All us AFA ultrcons know that you are backslidden and reprobate and on the slippery slope to a devils hell, and, and, and.....

Why, Jamaica, and all them devilish places that you go to.....:thumbsup

By the way, what is facebook? I mean, I have seen some faces that look like a book but....

LOL

All in good humor folks,

[RandyWayne]

Randy,

All us AFA ultrcons know that you are backslidden and reprobate and on the slippery slope to a devils hell, and, and, and.....

Why, Jamaica, and all them devilish places that you go to.....:thumbsup

By the way, what is facebook? I mean, I have seen some faces that look like a book but....

LOL

All in good humor folks,

Well, on the thread where I posted several of our vacation pics I did mention that I was very careful in what I selected and heavily edited (cropped) a few others.
The link I gave in THIS thread had ample warning! :)

Makes me wish I could publish an application on this board where I posted a link that said "Warning! Do not click here! Porn! Porn! Porn!", and then post the names of the people, in real time, as they clicked on it for all to see with big letters that said GOTCHYA!. LOL

By the way, the link I posted was NOT porn, but a reference to the subject of the thread. An example of pics that an UC would see who tried to befriend me on Facebook (for the purpose of getting dirt).

[TJJJ]

Well, on the thread where I posted several of our vacation pics I did mention that I was very careful in what I selected and heavily edited (cropped) a few others.
The link I gave in THIS thread had ample warning! :)

:ursofunny


So true, so true,

We just had good service tonight,

Lord Bless

TJJJ

[oletime]

What is an FB?

ahh, its a forum for those who are mostly non upc. kinda like aff ! beware prospective employers are known "GAWKERS" as some like to say !

[GraceAmazing]

ahh, its a forum for those who are mostly non upc. kinda like aff ! beware prospective employers are known "GAWKERS" as some like to say !

Actually, the UPC is all over Facebook, so that point is mute. As for AFF, I like it here!!! And you're right, there are a lot of non-UPC people on here, like Bro. Epley! Whom I appreciate very much despite our differences! :thumbsup

[U376977]

But there is another side....

We had a young guy who posted pics of his drunken b-day party. Kid was our drummer and everyone thought was "living holy." But pics of holding bottles of whiskey and being hung on by girls about half dressed, he was shirltess...needless to say with the judgmental spirit in churches it almost destroyed the kid, he was talked about for weeks, I hated what happened. I would have contained it and handled it private, but he posted the pics and everyone found out. He is going to another apostolic church now and doing better.

We have another teenage girl who posted some sexual type pics and was talking about boys had comments like, "u ho" and "OMG he's so hot", "I would do him" Her mother had no idea. She was a perfect angel in her eyes.

I have a facebook/myspace pg. and there is nothing there to hide. I really don't care who views.

That being said....for an org. to dig into FB and investigate their preachers and prospects....is sick....I would walk away and tell them all where they could stick it.

[GrowingPains]

But there is another side....

We had a young guy who posted pics of his drunken b-day party. Kid was our drummer and everyone thought was "living holy." But pics of holding bottles of whiskey and being hung on by girls about half dressed, he was shirltess...needless to say with the judgmental spirit in churches it almost destroyed the kid, he was talked about for weeks, I hated what happened. I would have contained it and handled it private, but he posted the pics and everyone found out. He is going to another apostolic church now and doing better.

We have another teenage girl who posted some sexual type pics and was talking about boys had comments like, "u ho" and "OMG he's so hot", "I would do him" Her mother had no idea. She was a perfect angel in her eyes.

I have a facebook/myspace pg. and there is nothing there to hide. I really don't care who views.

That being said....for an org. to dig into FB and investigate their preachers and prospects....is sick....I would walk away and tell them all where they could stick it.

Employers use it often for screening candidates! It's the new HR craze! If it's not appropriate for you soon-to-be boss to see it, you may not want to post your exhibitionism to the world. And that's just simple common sense... wisdom.

[oletime]

Actually, the UPC is all over Facebook, so that point is mute. As for AFF, I like it here!!! And you're right, there are a lot of non-UPC people on here, like Bro. Epley! Whom I appreciate very much despite our differences! :thumbsup

just a joke, ga not a point,sometimes, actually almost all the time my humour is kinda twisted, in a good way i hope, peace

[Pastor Keith]

I do limit who can see some of my photo albums, mainly because I don't like the idea of strangers viewing pictures of my kids.

However, that isn't the point. What kind of person takes the time to go through facebook and myspace albums so they can report back to pastors or peers any misdeeds or controversy?

That in and of itself is quite the attitude problem. :coffee2

The same guys who take a promienet pastor's wife and use her photos to bash him for his liberalism. A low blow!

[Aquila]

I think they want to discredit ministers because once discredited that leaves more people turning to them... that's more money in their pockets.

[Michlow]

Why would you post anything inappropiate on fb or any place else. God himself can look at my fb. Check that , come to think of it he does lol, Ps Dont put your address on there or anything personal like a pic of your house or any kind of personal info. Dont brag about your job or your place of employment, trade skills ie. wage brackets in specific ways, No ones business. its just common sense!

I am a pretty transparent person, but I did have a few second thoughts in the beginning about being facebook friends with people from AFF.

Though I am open on this site about what I do (and don't) believe, I also do my best to follow both the rules of the forum, and my own conscience (when it comes to not knowingly offending others ).

However, my facebook friends are a hodgepodge of friends and family from all different religions / lifestyles. And I made a decision in the beginning that I wasn't going to censor myself there.

Of course, I don't exactly think that anything I said or did on facebook or anywhere else would surprise anyone :D

[oletime]

I am a pretty transparent person, but I did have a few second thoughts in the beginning about being facebook friends with people from AFF.

Though I am open on this site about what I do (and don't) believe, I also do my best to follow both the rules of the forum, and my own conscience (when it comes to not knowingly offending others ).

However, my facebook friends are a hodgepodge of friends and family from all different religions / lifestyles. And I made a decision in the beginning that I wasn't going to censor myself there.

Of course, I don't exactly think that anything I said or did on facebook or anywhere else would surprise anyone :D

love that star avatar. im jealous!

[Sister Alvear]

I just think that it is a shame that people lower themselves to destroy others...They can preach all the standards they want to preach but if they kill others their standards (dress) will NOT save them...sadly some people would fit in the Mafia better than they do in the Bible!

[RandyWayne]

I just think that it is a shame that people lower themselves to destroy others...They can preach all the standards they want to preach but if they kill others their standards (dress) will NOT save them...sadly some people would fit in the Mafia better than they do in the Bible!

Would you join my Mafia?

(Mafia Wars on Facebook)

[ManOfWord]

You know what? I don't restrict anything. If I don't want someone to see or read it, I don't post it. I know that is a novel idea but I just post things anywhere as if ANYONE can see it or read it............because they CAN! Imagine that! LOL

I've never had to have something removed or deleted. The internet is PUBLIC......hell-o?


Nothing wrong with restricting viewing abilities of others IMO if that is the way you want to protect your privacy. I just protect my privacy another way......I keep it private! :D

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is the thing if you think someone has errered would belittling them be the way to win them back ?

Why kind of Holy Ghost enjoys putting people down ?

[MrMasterMind]

I just think that it is a shame that people lower themselves to destroy others...They can preach all the standards they want to preach but if they kill others their standards (dress) will NOT save them...sadly some people would fit in the Mafia better than they do in the Bible!

Give that woman a microphone and let her get her preach on up in here!

[Sister Alvear]

I think we can be a christian without trying to destroy others...

[On The Wheel]

Here is the thing if you think someone has errered would belittling them be the way to win them back ?

Why kind of Holy Ghost enjoys putting people down ?


Great point! And there is even scripture that teaches the very same thing!

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all [men], apt to teach, patient,
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Yet a couple more scriptures conveniently overlooked by many of the finger pointers. I leads one to speculate on them a little:

1. If they were were really after the propagation of truth, might they actually follow these scriptures?

2. Perhaps truth is not what is important, but is is rather pride. I am right, you are wrong. My identity and self esteem is not tied up in scripture but in my traditions.

Just some thoughts.

[On The Wheel]

I just think that it is a shame that people lower themselves to destroy others...They can preach all the standards they want to preach but if they kill others their standards (dress) will NOT save them...sadly some people would fit in the Mafia better than they do in the Bible!

Wow! What a body blow. From one who has been around those who ride the Outward Holiness High Horse with spurs, that is the truth. :thumbsup

[Michlow]

love that star avatar. im jealous!

Thanks, I believe I got it at imagechef.com

[warrior]

It looks like folks have too much time on their hands and could benefit from some much needed time in prayer and Bible study themselves.

None of us have room to point the finger at anyone else. We all have to work out our own soul salvation with fear and trembling.

[Sam]

concerning the "holiness standards" held dear and taught by many:

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isaiah 29:13

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 7:6-16

[On The Wheel]

concerning the "holiness standards" held dear and taught by many:

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isaiah 29:13

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Mark 7:6-16

This is a problem. It is very difficult to listen if your mouth is always open. Those who are always on the prowl to catch those who's toes inch off the line are too busy condemning others to hear what thus saith the Word. I have learned that it is very hard to listen when your mouth is always open.

Also, it is impossible to learn if you already think you know it ALL!

[Scott Hutchinson]

People that are always looking for fault can find it,all they need to do,is to look for it in their mirrors.

[tv1a]

My daughter used to have a serious problem with being a tattle tale. She would tell on her brother for the least little thing in order to get him into trouble. Unfortunately, the root of the problem was when she was making someone else look bad, she thought she was looking good. We put a stop to that quick.

The internet gestapo wants to shift the spotlight on others so they can continue to work their evil in the dark. The Bible says that things done in secret will be brought to light. One can only hope that the light shines on their evil soon.

I think they want to discredit ministers because once discredited that leaves more people turning to them... that's more money in their pockets.

[On The Wheel]

People that are always looking for fault can find it,all they need to do,is to look for it in their mirrors.

True. If I look there too long (say 4 or 5 seconds) I can get very depressed!

The true mirror is, of course, God's Word. But that can be very inconvenient. It might cause the viewer to humble himself and be convicted to shape up his act. It is so much more fun to look at others and harp on them to change up their act.