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Ron
02-13-2007, 08:46 PM
Allright you Theologians, can anyone take a stab at this verse?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:48 PM
It's the back up verse to Acts 2:38???

Ron
02-13-2007, 08:49 PM
It's the back up verse to Acts 2:38???


:dunno Try again?

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 08:49 PM
It's the back up verse to Acts 2:38???
Yeah, it's the one they throw at you after you tell them you believe someone can make it to heaven if they don't speak in tongues...

Monkeyman
02-13-2007, 08:50 PM
My sermon title, "No pig is gonna steal my bling" (Street version)

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:50 PM
LOL

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Pig = liberal brother??

Praxeas
02-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Don't eat bacon during a full moon?

Praxeas
02-13-2007, 08:51 PM
well dogs were gentiles

Ron
02-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Yeah, it's the one they throw at you after you tell them you believe someone can make it to heaven if they don't speak in tongues...


Wait, that's a different argument.:blink

Ron
02-13-2007, 08:52 PM
well dogs were gentiles

Okay, so the Gospel wasn't meant for the Gentiles?

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 08:52 PM
My sermon title, "No pig is gonna steal my bling" (Street version)
Monkeymaestro in da hizzy!

Monkeyman
02-13-2007, 08:52 PM
Pig = liberal brother??
oops, I guess If I have bling, hmmm, I'm the liberal..gotta re-think this thing.

Okay, okay Ron, just funnin' ya man.

We have things that are Holy. Give them a highest regard. Don't even let them near things that will destroy them. I think you have to decide what is the "holy" thing that you possess. There certain things in my life that I regard dear and given to me by my God...and even though some have tried, they will never possess them.

Ron
02-13-2007, 08:53 PM
HMMM, seeing where this thread is headed, I may need to rethink this!:tease

Monkeyman
02-13-2007, 08:53 PM
Monkeymaestro in da hizzy!Fo sho my homey! know what I'm sayin'? (BTW, no one ever does)

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:53 PM
Pig = Pig headed conservative
Pearl = TV ????

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 08:54 PM
Fo sho my homey! know what I'm sayin'? (BTW, no one ever does)
Word, Monkman. Word.

Neck
02-13-2007, 08:55 PM
Allright you Theologians, can anyone take a stab at this verse?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Not sure of the Analogy here. All I know is Jesus cast the legion of demons into the Swine. The meaning has to be hidden in the character of the pig.

Probaly why the Jews and the Arabs will not eat Ham.

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:55 PM
Pass the sausage ... Ronzo.

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 08:56 PM
Not sure of the Analogy here. All I know is Jesus cast the legion of demons into the Swine. The meaning has to be hidden in the character of the pig.

Probaly why the Jews and the Arabs will not eat Ham.
Actually, the reason the Jews, orthodox ones at least, don't eat pork is because God told them not to.

lol

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 08:56 PM
Pass the sausage ... Ronzo.
Chorizo?


Love that stuff.

Praxeas
02-13-2007, 08:57 PM
neither cast ye your pearls before swine. But since the subject Christ is upon is reproof, it seems rather to be the design of these expressions, that men should be cautious, and prudent, in rebuking and admonishing such persons for their sins, in whom there is no appearance or hope of success; yea, where there is danger of sustaining loss;

lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you: that is, despise the admonitions and reproofs given, and hurt the persons who give them, either by words or deeds; see Pro_9:7. The Jews have some sayings much like these, and will serve to illustrate them

John Gill

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:57 PM
I eat it EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUS.

SDG
02-13-2007, 08:58 PM
Praxeas .. go rain on someone else parade ... Hey Ronnie ... we could bury him with fishes ...

Whole Hearted
02-13-2007, 08:59 PM
neither cast ye your pearls before swine. But since the subject Christ is upon is reproof, it seems rather to be the design of these expressions, that men should be cautious, and prudent, in rebuking and admonishing such persons for their sins, in whom there is no appearance or hope of success; yea, where there is danger of sustaining loss;

lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you: that is, despise the admonitions and reproofs given, and hurt the persons who give them, either by words or deeds; see Pro_9:7. The Jews have some sayings much like these, and will serve to illustrate them

John Gill

I agree.

Monkeyman
02-13-2007, 08:59 PM
I eat it EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUS.con huevos, amen amen.

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:00 PM
Praxeas .. go rain on someone else parade ... Hey Ronnie ... we could bury him with fishes ...


Ay-yo, Dan. Ju go git da bukkit an' I'll get da bag uh suhment.

Charlie Brown
02-13-2007, 09:02 PM
Allright you Theologians, can anyone take a stab at this verse?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

This means I should probably refrain from posting anymore.






















































:bliss :killinme

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:02 PM
Take a chill Ronnie, ama eat some chorizo den we kood finich de job.

Neck
02-13-2007, 09:02 PM
Allright you Theologians, can anyone take a stab at this verse?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Not sure of the Analogy here. Jesus did cast the legion of demons into the swine. So it must speak to the nature of the pig.

Maybe that is why the Jews and Arabs will not eat ham.

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:04 PM
Take a chill Ronnie, ama eat some chorizo den we kood finich de job.
ahy tink ju may be ontah sum'n deah Dannay.

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:05 PM
Not sure of the Analogy here. Jesus did cast the legion of demons into the swine. So it must speak to the nature of the pig.

Maybe that is why the Jews and Arabs will not eat ham.


Echo! echo! echo! echo!





:tease

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:05 PM
ahy tink ju may be ontah sum'n deah Dannay.

Ya think??? now git back in da cah....

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:06 PM
Not sure of the Analogy here. Jesus did cast the legion of demons into the swine. So it must speak to the nature of the pig.

Maybe that is why the Jews and Arabs will not eat ham.

But Carnal Jews will raise them? It was a Jew that had the legion of demons cast into them.

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:06 PM
Echo! echo! echo! echo!





:tease


Deja vu ALL OVER AGAIN ..... LOL

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:07 PM
But Carnal Jews will raise them? It was a Jew that had the legion of demons cast into them.
Well, see, there was nothing that said they couldn't raise them to sell to the pagans for the pagans to eat the pigs.

Whole Hearted
02-13-2007, 09:10 PM
But Carnal Jews will raise them? It was a Jew that had the legion of demons cast into them.

I just preached on this Sunday night. These Jews choose the unclean swine over Jesus. they ask Him to leave, because all they could thing about was the hogs that they lose. their only concern was the unclean things that they lost. they could have seen many miracles but the ask Jesus to leave. they loved the swine the unclean thing more. More than healing and deliverance for their loved ones

Praxeas
02-13-2007, 09:10 PM
But Carnal Jews will raise them? It was a Jew that had the legion of demons cast into them.
Gotta be a message in there somewhere

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:10 PM
Well, see, there was nothing that said they couldn't raise them to sell to the pagans for the pagans to eat the pigs.

One of the "loopholes of the Law?":heeheehee

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:12 PM
One of the "loopholes of the Law?":heeheehee
Well... it's one of the things that happens when you're reading text as text and not really looking at the conceptual....

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:12 PM
I just preached on this Sunday night. These Jews choose the unclean swine over Jesus. they ask Him to leave, because all they could thing about was the hogs that they lose. their only concern was the unclean things that they lost. they could have seen many miracles but the ask Jesus to leave. they loved the swine the unclean thing more. More than healing and deliverance for their loved ones
That's good.

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:13 PM
R U Going To Allonize Dese Guys Ronnie Boy?

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:13 PM
Luk 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
Luk 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
Luk 15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
Luk 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

See where the prodigal ended up?
In amongst the Swine!

Praxeas
02-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Luk 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
Luk 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
Luk 15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
Luk 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

See where the prodigal ended up?
In amongst the Swine!
So the prodical son was really a pearl someone cast before swine? :tease

stmatthew
02-13-2007, 09:14 PM
Luk 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
Luk 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
Luk 15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
Luk 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

See where the prodigal ended up?
In amongst the Swine!

The prodigal is a type of Natural Israel

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Why did I know ... where this was going??

Whole Hearted
02-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Luk 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
Luk 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
Luk 15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
Luk 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

See where the prodigal ended up?
In amongst the Swine!

I used that Sunday night too, how that he came to himself and got out of the hog pen. He came out of the unclean.

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:15 PM
The prodigal is a type of Natural Israel

One type, or the type?:D

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:15 PM
R U Going To Allonize Dese Guys Ronnie Boy?
lol

Slowly, yes.


I wonder if they'll throw me out for it.

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Why did I know ... where this was going??

You're a prophet?:D

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:17 PM
I used that Sunday night too, how that he came to himself and got out of the hog pen. He came out of the unclean.

That sounds good. Trouble is, some like living in amongst the "Pigs!":rolleyes:

Whole Hearted
02-13-2007, 09:17 PM
That's good.

I called the mesage "An Opportunity of a Lifetime" they missed it.

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:18 PM
I called the mesage "An Opportunity of a Lifetime" they missed it.

Who, your congregation?:rolleyes:


Sorry, I couldn't resist.:D

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:19 PM
That sounds good. Trouble is, some like living in amongst the "Pigs!":rolleyes:

Mud is slippery bro. It's not easy to get out of.

Don't be too harsh on folks.

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:20 PM
but are we called to sling mud????

Whole Hearted
02-13-2007, 09:22 PM
Who, your congregation?:rolleyes:


Sorry, I couldn't resist.:D

Oh no they got it. We ever more had church Sunday night.

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:23 PM
Pigs have a bad rap ....

Pigs do not have functional sweat glands [2], so pigs cool themselves using water or mud during hot weather. They also use mud as a form of sunscreen to protect their skin from sunburn. Mud also provides protection against flies and parasites.

Pigs are generally considered to be one of the more intelligent animals on the planet, being compared to dogs [3]. In one study conducted by a Pennsylvania State University professor, two pigs were taught to play rudimentary video games by manipulating a joy stick with their snouts while being rewarded with sweets [4].

It has been shown that a pig's mood can be determined by its tail, if the tail is tightly coiled, the pig is happy. If the tail is hanging limp however, the pig is unhappy

Source: Wikipedia

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:23 PM
but are we called to sling mud????
Yes.
*chucks a mud pie at Dan*

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:25 PM
Oh no they got it. We ever more had church Sunday night.

We did too! Everyone was Dancing all over the place, and we had one backslider praay back through-in seconds tears streaming down her face.
She is 19 and my wife and I were picking her up for Sunday School when she was six!

We even had a new visitor who was so excited by what she saw, that when people got to dancing she danced too! Out of what she was feeling.

Ron
02-13-2007, 09:26 PM
Pigs have a bad rap ....

Pigs do not have functional sweat glands [2], so pigs cool themselves using water or mud during hot weather. They also use mud as a form of sunscreen to protect their skin from sunburn. Mud also provides protection against flies and parasites.

Pigs are generally considered to be one of the more intelligent animals on the planet, being compared to dogs [3]. In one study conducted by a Pennsylvania State University professor, two pigs were taught to play rudimentary video games by manipulating a joy stick with their snouts while being rewarded with sweets [4].

It has been shown that a pig's mood can be determined by its tail, if the tail is tightly coiled, the pig is happy. If the tail is hanging limp however, the pig is unhappy

Source: Wikipedia


Are you a Pig Whisperer or something?:D

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:28 PM
No ... but I've learned that they don't bite ... and often respond to TLC rather than the plastic gloves approach

Whole Hearted
02-13-2007, 09:28 PM
We did too! Everyone was Dancing all over the place, and we had one backslider praay back through-in seconds tears streaming down her face.
She is 19 and my wife and I were picking her up for Sunday School when she was six!

We even had a new visitor who was so excited by what she saw, that when people got to dancing she danced too! Out of what she was feeling.

That's great.

On of the men , who was backslidden for a long time and prayed back through just a few months ago, got a real good blessing Sunday night. Our people shouting danced and ran the isles. I would have to wait for them so settle down so I could continue preaching, what a good problem.

Ronzo
02-13-2007, 09:30 PM
No ... but I've learned that they don't bite ... and often respond to TLC rather than the plastic gloves approach


Oh that was a visual I could have gone my entire life without ever seeing in my mind...


I'm scarred for life now.

SDG
02-13-2007, 09:31 PM
Oh that was a visual I could have gone my entire life without ever seeing in my mind...


I'm scarred for life now.

:killinme

Ron
02-13-2007, 10:03 PM
That's great.

On of the men , who was backslidden for a long time and prayed back through just a few months ago, got a real good blessing Sunday night. Our people shouting danced and ran the isles. I would have to wait for them so settle down so I could continue preaching, what a good problem.

Amen!

Rhoni
02-14-2007, 06:12 AM
Allright you Theologians, can anyone take a stab at this verse?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

I think that you have to deal with people from the worldview they live in. If you are humble, sweet, and giving to those who are just trying to take advantage of your Christianity [those who would abuse you physically, spiritually, emotionally, or sexually] then you are casting your pearl before swine.

God does not mean that you should let your Godliness be taken advantage of to the point you are misused , used, and taken advantage of.

This is my thoughts on this scripture.

Blessigns, Rhoni

Ferd
02-14-2007, 06:18 AM
What are we doing with pearls? they are of the devil

COOPER
02-14-2007, 06:27 AM
My sermon title, "No pig is gonna steal my bling" (Street version):killinme
Good one!

deadeye
02-14-2007, 10:16 AM
It was a verse that if I remember correctly the Neophariseism crowd tried to use to justify the wearing of jewelry.

It was quite the reach.

Ronzo
02-14-2007, 10:28 AM
It was a verse that if I remember correctly the Neophariseism crowd tried to use to justify the wearing of jewelry.

It was quite the reach.
uh................ yeah, ok. Sure it was. :nah

The Mrs
02-14-2007, 10:39 AM
Fo sho my homey! know what I'm sayin'? (BTW, no one ever does)

NOT TRUE!!!! :tease I git'cho bubblatin’ dawg... :highfive

The Mrs
02-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Are you a Pig Whisperer or something?:D


:killinme :killinme :killinme