View Full Version : Friday the 13th: Local Epidemic with A Spiritual Connection?
Steadfast
04-17-2007, 08:29 PM
Here's a strange one for all the 'spiritual guru' who reside on AFF.
For years we've heard about the whole 'Friday the 13th' as being an unlucky day. I really have no idea why it's called an unlucky day. However, this past Friday (13th) has made me question just how much spiritual activity is involved on something called a 'unlucky' day.
1. Some read my post about my son finding the dead body of a young man who apparently commited suicide. He was found on the property line of some land we purchased and plan to build a home on in a few years. A gun was found under his left knee as he lay face down in the dirt. Horribly sad situation.
2. I just got word from a Sister in my Church who is a nurse that works at the largest hospital in our neighboring city. She said that on Friday the 13th there were THREE doctor's wives and one doctor that committed suicide. One shot themselves in the head, one in the stomach... one drank clorox and the another drank antifreeze. As far as anybody knows there is NO connection between the 4 suicides associated with that hospital.
It just seems a little more than coincidence to me that all 5 of these suicides took place on Friday the 13th.
QUESTION: Am I the only one that thinks that there is more spiritual activity on some days than on other days? I don't necessarily think it's just a Friday the 13th, a Holloween or such as that. It just appears to me that there is legitimately more spiritual activity during certain days or seasons?
I'd be interested in seeing how others see the connection between certain days and spiritual activity.
Sheer superstition. If there is more activity at all, it is because people choose to make it so.
IBCrazier2
04-17-2007, 09:46 PM
I am not smart enough to know the answer to your question. But I do think that if you get into the superstitions and such, that your weekness can be preyed upon.
Sherri
04-17-2007, 10:05 PM
I think the words we speak are so powerful! If a gazillion people are saying that Friday the 13th is "unlucky", it gives the devil legal right to do his work on that day (or any other day for that matter, if people open themselves up to it). He is the ultimate legalist!
How many times do we say things like:
"My feet are KILLING me"
"I'm so full I could DIE"
"I was scared to DEATH".
I think all those words bring curses on our lives; giving the enemy rights to us. We are snared by the words of our mouth; the power of LIFE and DEATH is in the tongue.
Call me charismatic or whatever, but I believe in the power of blessing and cursing!
Newman
04-17-2007, 10:07 PM
2. I just got word from a Sister in my Church who is a nurse that works at the largest hospital in our neighboring city. She said that on Friday the 13th there were THREE doctor's wives and one doctor that committed suicide. One shot themselves in the head, one in the stomach... one drank clorox and the another drank antifreeze. As far as anybody knows there is NO connection between the 4 suicides associated with that hospital.
Well, the date doesn't concern me but if I was the police I would be looking long and hard at the coincidence of so many suicides connected with one hospital in one day.
Makes you wonder who had a gun pointed at them and commanded them to do what they did or alternatively, what they know about the hospital that you don't....
Or I suppose more plausibly.... if one had committed suicide in the morning; then it is plausible that three others followed suit as copycat suicides.
Unfortunately, copy cat suicide is REAL. The more publicized suicides are; the greater the ripple effect of other suicides (and likely school shootings). :cool:
Steadfast
04-18-2007, 01:07 AM
It does kind of make you wonder if there is some 'conspiracy' behind it but it appears none of them are remotely related.
I do think that there are massive swings of spiritual activity. Just not sure that they use our 12 month, 365 day calendar.... :igotit
philjones
04-18-2007, 07:06 AM
Steadfast,
i would say that spiritual activity from the dark side is on going (remember your message "Fight Like Hell". They never stop.
What I believe is that on days that we have assigned specific connotations of evil, folks are more susceptible to dark spirits and they are more easily convinced to act in unGodly ways.
Michlow
04-18-2007, 07:15 AM
Slightly off topic...but I remember reading somewhere that Friday's themselves were long thought to be an unlucky day (so much for TGIF).
I found this article on snopes that talks alittle bit of possible origins:
http://www.snopes.com/luck/friday13.asp
Sheltiedad
04-18-2007, 07:29 AM
I don't know about the spiritual bit, but I know that my wife, who is a licensed counselor for high school and middle-aged kids notices a trend of craziness around the full moon each month and neither she nor I are supersitious people.
I think the words we speak are so powerful! If a gazillion people are saying that Friday the 13th is "unlucky", it gives the devil legal right to do his work on that day (or any other day for that matter, if people open themselves up to it). He is the ultimate legalist!
How many times do we say things like:
"My feet are KILLING me"
"I'm so full I could DIE"
"I was scared to DEATH".
I think all those words bring curses on our lives; giving the enemy rights to us. We are snared by the words of our mouth; the power of LIFE and DEATH is in the tongue.
Call me charismatic or whatever, but I believe in the power of blessing and cursing!
I don't personally believe that. I think what we mean means a whole lot more than what we say. If we speak negatively like "I will never amount to anything" that is a very negative statement that goes to the core. But saying "My feet are killing me" I don't think does anything but express what we feel like.
I don't know about the spiritual bit, but I know that my wife, who is a licensed counselor for high school and middle-aged kids notices a trend of craziness around the full moon each month and neither she nor I are supersitious people.
I think the moon is different because of the magnetic pull or whatever. There is a scientific basis.
Blubayou
04-18-2007, 08:36 AM
Having worked at schools for 30 years I do think the moon and barometric pressure effects behaviors.
Steadfast
04-18-2007, 09:56 AM
Another good point is being brought up here. While I'm speaking about 'Friday the 13th' and things like 'Halloween' there is the other end of the spectrum that several have mentioned.
I have several people in the medical field ranging from paramedics to RN's to 'home health' workers. I also have several in Law Enforcement and I ride with them on a fairly regular basis. Either group can tell you - myself included - that the 'crazies' usually come out on the full moon. You have more wrecks, more domestic violence and more general nuttiness on those days by far than any other days on the calendar.
Personally, I don't really espouse to the 'magnetic' argument that it affects men's minds... or I would wear one of Praxeas' metal hats! :winkgrin We are, obviously, living flesh in a spirit world (spirits were alive LONG before our flesh was). I concur with ILG that I'm not remotely a superstitious person but I never discount the affects of real spirits at work in our world, either. It appears the subject gives us much to think about.
While hesitating to say too much I don't mind telling you that I do have my own opinions about much of this as I strive to study spiritual warfare and taking dominion over spirits troubling my Saints. I just don't don't know how or if a particular day, like Friday the 13th, plays into all of that.
I have several people in the medical field ranging from paramedics to RN's to 'home health' workers. I also have several in Law Enforcement and I ride with them on a fairly regular basis. Either group can tell you - myself included - that the 'crazies' usually come out on the full moon. You have more wrecks, more domestic violence and more general nuttiness on those days by far than any other days on the calendar.
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I work in a domestic violence shelter. The full moon does seem to play a part. Heat also does or any stressful factor such as gas prices going up etc.
Sherri
04-18-2007, 08:18 PM
I don't personally believe that. I think what we mean means a whole lot more than what we say. If we speak negatively like "I will never amount to anything" that is a very negative statement that goes to the core. But saying "My feet are killing me" I don't think does anything but express what we feel like.Well, I DO believe it. The Bible doesn't say we're snared by our minds, but by the words of our mouths. It doesn't say that the power of life and death is in the mind or the heart, but in the tongue. God did everything by speaking it into existence and we are made in the very image and likeness of Him. We are also "speaking spirits", unlike any of the other creation. As a believer, our words have POWER.
Steadfast
04-18-2007, 11:40 PM
So what do you think makes the full moon cause the change in spiritual activity? It surely isn't superstition because it's seen time and again how the full moon affects society.
jillian
04-19-2007, 06:39 AM
I think the moon is different because of the magnetic pull or whatever. There is a scientific basis.
So what do you think makes the full moon cause the change in spiritual activity? It surely isn't superstition because it's seen time and full moon affects society.
I read somewhere it has to do as ILG said with the magnetic pull, The pull has an effect on the water ( ex. tide coming in and going out) Our bodies are a large percentage of water. I can not remember the details.
Well, I DO believe it. The Bible doesn't say we're snared by our minds, but by the words of our mouths. It doesn't say that the power of life and death is in the mind or the heart, but in the tongue. God did everything by speaking it into existence and we are made in the very image and likeness of Him. We are also "speaking spirits", unlike any of the other creation. As a believer, our words have POWER.
I believe that partly. But probably not to the extent that you do, by your given examples.
I read somewhere it has to do as ILG said with the magnetic pull, The pull has an effect on the water ( ex. tide coming in and going out) Our bodies are a large percentage of water. I can not remember the details.
Right. I don't know a whole lot about it, but I hear it has a more scientific rather than spiritual basis.
Coonskinner
04-19-2007, 07:08 AM
I taught school full time for four years, and I can promise you that the weather and the moon has an effect on people's behavior.
I dont know about Friday the 13th but this week is the anniversary of
Hitler’s Birthday
Columbine shooting
Waco
Oklahoma City attack
And now the Virginia Tech massacre
This has become a historically evil week.
I taught school full time for four years, and I can promise you that the weather and the moon has an effect on people's behavior.
I worked in a prison for a year and a half and I agree. bad men act really really bad during full the full moon. also spring made them all hyper.
Steadfast
04-19-2007, 08:32 AM
I dont know about Friday the 13th but this week is the anniversary of
Hitler’s Birthday
Columbine shooting
Waco
Oklahoma City attack
And now the Virginia Tech massacre
This has become a historically evil week.
Wow... I didn't realize all of that. This information surely makes it all much more interesting.
Amazing.
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