Where Are The Apostolic Post Trib Churches?

[Michael The Disciple]

I know many saints have come to embrace post trib in recent years. How about Pastors who are willing to teach it? Do you know of Oneness Churches that teach post tribulation rapture?

There are none around Somerset Ky that I know of. Point me to them ANYWHERE they may be. Maybe I will get a chance to meet them one day.

[Apocrypha]

Me

[pelathais]

After the flu I had a couple of weeks ago, everything else that happens will be "Post-Trib" from here on out!

[yisraelm]

I know many saints have come to embrace post trib in recent years. How about Pastors who are willing to teach it? Do you know of Oneness Churches that teach post tribulation rapture?

There are none around Somerset Ky that I know of. Point me to them ANYWHERE they may be. Maybe I will get a chance to meet them one day.

Do you want one with Holiness standards?

[Michael The Disciple]

Do you want one with Holiness standards?

Hmmm...If they preach against beards on men or women trimming their hair I probably would not tarry long there. However as a firm post trib I might want to visit some time.

I would certainly want a Church that teaches Biblical Holiness and perfection tho.

[Michael The Disciple]

Me

Are you a post trib Church?

[Michael The Disciple]

Ok there must be some.

[Sherri]

My husband believes post-trib, but doesn't teach it as a fact - just what he personally believes.

[John Carroll]

Madisonville, KY-Bud Tingle

[Michael The Disciple]

Madisonville, KY-Bud Tingle

In 1982 I was attending a Church in Springfield Ohio. The Pastor was Delbert Havens. He was fellowshipping with Bro. Tingle at that time and spoke well of him.

[Michael The Disciple]

My husband believes post-trib, but doesn't teach it as a fact - just what he personally believes.

Who is your husband?

[yisraelm]

In 1982 I was attending a Church in Springfield Ohio. The Pastor was Delbert Havens. He was fellowshipping with Bro. Tingle at that time and spoke well of him.

Elder Havens is Old Time Holiness .

[yisraelm]

Are you a post trib Church?

I have a 2 cousins that Pastor large UPC Churches that are post Trib but very liberal..... I would hesitate to send you to them.

[Apocrypha]

I have a 2 cousins that Pastor large UPC Churches that are post Trib but very liberal..... I would hesitate to send you to them.

Proverbs 19:6a

ERV - Many will entreat the favour of the liberal man

[notofworks]

I know many saints have come to embrace post trib in recent years. How about Pastors who are willing to teach it? Do you know of Oneness Churches that teach post tribulation rapture?

There are none around Somerset Ky that I know of. Point me to them ANYWHERE they may be. Maybe I will get a chance to meet them one day.


How 'bout a "Who Cares" church? If it needs to be said more respectfully I would call it a, "If we're covered by God's grace the trib won't matter" church.

[pelathais]

How 'bout a "Who Cares" church? If it needs to be said more respectfully I would call it a, "If we're covered by God's grace the trib won't matter" church.
Dude, that's one of the biggest fussin' points in the whole movement. We'd be undone if we couldn't fight among ourselves over unanswerable questions!

Why, most of the brethren would have to sign off the Internet and watch football with me tonight! Who's playing?

[Michael The Disciple]

Elder Havens is Old Time Holiness .

Is he still living? I was actually an Elder in that Church in those days.

[Michael The Disciple]

I have a 2 cousins that Pastor large UPC Churches that are post Trib but very liberal..... I would hesitate to send you to them.

They might be to the right of me on some issues I would have to examine their beliefs. Please give me links.

[Michael The Disciple]

How 'bout a "Who Cares" church? If it needs to be said more respectfully I would call it a, "If we're covered by God's grace the trib won't matter" church.

You couldnt be more wrong. Scripture is given to be believed. We are called to love the truth.

[Michael The Disciple]

Im not ready to let this thread go away yet. Surely there are some more Apostolic Churches that are post trib. Ok let the flow of them start coming in! :thumbsup

[yisraelm]

Is he still living? I was actually an Elder in that Church in those days.

I don't know, Bro if the Elder is alive or not .Irvin Baxter is Post trib my advice would be contact them in Texas and they could direct you.

[notofworks]

You couldnt be more wrong. Scripture is given to be believed. We are called to love the truth.


Ok, when you come up with the person who has the answer, let me know.

[Michael The Disciple]

Waiting for reply.

[notofworks]

Waiting for reply.

Waiting for a reply to what? Here's what I see in the book of Revelation:

Well, and a little bit of Daniel based on the 70 week plan....

The rapture will occur in 2072. The tribulation will begin immediately for those who are pre-trib. However, for those who are mid-trib, the rapture will occur in 2075 and 1/2, and in 2079 for those who are post-trib (that would be you, evidently). However, there is one exception...there are those who believe the trib will be 14 years long (SG Norris taught that for a while) so this sets up another timeline completely. Revelation 14:68 makes it clear that there will be three raptures to please all those who passionately thought they were right (God doesn't want to embarrass them).

And finally, those who believe that "Trib" is actually talking about the Chicago Tribune, and who immediately begin to wonder when their paper is being delivered when they hear talk of the Trib, none of this means anything.

[Michael The Disciple]

Waiting for a reply to what? Here's what I see in the book of Revelation:

Well, and a little bit of Daniel based on the 70 week plan....

The rapture will occur in 2072. The tribulation will begin immediately for those who are pre-trib. However, for those who are mid-trib, the rapture will occur in 2075 and 1/2, and in 2079 for those who are post-trib (that would be you, evidently). However, there is one exception...there are those who believe the trib will be 14 years long (SG Norris taught that for a while) so this sets up another timeline completely. Revelation 14:68 makes it clear that there will be three raptures to please all those who passionately thought they were right (God doesn't want to embarrass them).

And finally, those who believe that "Trib" is actually talking about the Chicago Tribune, and who immediately begin to wonder when their paper is being delivered when they hear talk of the Trib, none of this means anything.

Do me a favor. Dont sidetrack the thread. I am looking for all known Apostolic Churches that teach the post trib rapture. Start another thread if you want to debate about it. Thanks!

[Sister Alvear]

I believe the church will go through tribulation...whatever that may be called...

[notofworks]

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[notofworks]

Do me a favor. Dont sidetrack the thread. I am looking for all known Apostolic Churches that teach the post trib rapture. Start another thread if you want to debate about it. Thanks!

My good Michael, if it's not obvious by now, just let me explain to you that I wouldn't debate this stuff in a million years. I just think it's funny that you're looking for a "post-trib" church.

[Michael The Disciple]

Yes. Understood.

[MamaHen]

I don't blame him for looking for a church that is likeminded. Many would consider that a very important doctrine to be in agreement on. Having a doctrine you don't believe thrown at you every other service, or being belittled because you aren't a pre-tribber doesn't exactly evoke feelings of unity.

I came across these a while back:

http://www.endtime-truth.com

http://www.truth-not-tradition.com/articles.html

[Michael The Disciple]

Bump

[Sherri]

Who is your husband?Eddie Cupples

[Michael The Disciple]

Sherri,

Thanks for your reply! Thats 5 documented in this thread so far. What city and state are you in?

[Michael The Disciple]

Jackson Tennessee I presume?

[Sherri]

Jackson Tennessee I presume?
Yes, we started a church here 8 years ago this week!

[Michael The Disciple]

I don't blame him for looking for a church that is likeminded. Many would consider that a very important doctrine to be in agreement on. Having a doctrine you don't believe thrown at you every other service, or being belittled because you aren't a pre-tribber doesn't exactly evoke feelings of unity.

I came across these a while back:

http://www.endtime-truth.com

http://www.truth-not-tradition.com/articles.html

Hi Mamahen,

I did not realize you were here on the Forum. Welcome to you and I appreciate your post. I had forgotten about the Valdez Church in Alaska. A bit far from me here in Ky! peace, Michael

[*AQuietPlace*]

I think Billy Uzzle in Hickman, KY is post-trib.

[Pastor Keith]

I am starting to lean more this way in my own thinking, but I don't teach the church that I pastor specific theories or views on prophecy. I just teach the coming of the Lord and to be ready.

But after reading some notable thinkers on the subject and then re-reading some biblical texts it seems that the secret escape might not happen they way that I was taught as a child. But at this stage in my theology it is an open opinion. But I do know that Jesus is coming back!

[Sherri]

I am starting to lean more this way in my own thinking, but I don't teach the church that I pastor specific theories or views on prophecy. I just teach the coming of the Lord and to be ready.

But after reading some notable thinkers on the subject and then re-reading some biblical texts it seems that the secret escape might not happen they way that I was taught as a child. But at this stage in my theology it is an open opinion. But I do know that Jesus is coming back!Same here.......Eddie doesn't teach it either way.

[seguidordejesus]

There are lots of people that follow Bro. Baxter that may or may not call themselves post-trib, but I agree that this may be a good way to find some. Perhaps the OP could contact him and post the list here?

[Michael The Disciple]

There are lots of people that follow Bro. Baxter that may or may not call themselves post-trib, but I agree that this may be a good way to find some. Perhaps the OP could contact him and post the list here?

Great idea but....I know Bro Baxter was bona fide post trib years ago when I listened to his tapes. Is he still with what he taught then? I know it was being said that he believes we are like in the fifth trumpet or some like thing. If thats true Im not so sure I want him representing my views. Hope Im wrong.

But yes maybe he has a list of post trib Churches. I hope so.

[MamaHen]

Hi Mamahen,

I did not realize you were here on the Forum. Welcome to you and I appreciate your post. I had forgotten about the Valdez Church in Alaska. A bit far from me here in Ky! peace, Michael

Thanks MtD! Yes, I am here. I read much more than I post :-)

[Michael The Disciple]

Ok any recent additions to Apostolic Churches that teach post trib?

[comeasyouare]

I know many saints have come to embrace post trib in recent years. How about Pastors who are willing to teach it? Do you know of Oneness Churches that teach post tribulation rapture?

There are none around Somerset Ky that I know of. Point me to them ANYWHERE they may be. Maybe I will get a chance to meet them one day.

YEARS AGO in Stollings, WV, an Apostolic Church pastored by Kelly Lowery, who was the FIRST preacher I ever heard preach against the secret, pre-trib "rapture" and a literal millennial reign on this earth. He passed away years ago, and I have no idea who pastors his church now.

The Apostolic church, pastored by my dad, never did embrace the "rapture" view.

[Originalist]

I know many saints have come to embrace post trib in recent years. How about Pastors who are willing to teach it? Do you know of Oneness Churches that teach post tribulation rapture?

There are none around Somerset Ky that I know of. Point me to them ANYWHERE they may be. Maybe I will get a chance to meet them one day.

The church I used to attend in DeLand, Fl has a strong post -trib representation. The pastor used to be radical pre-trib. I sat under him for 17 years. Right before we moved to another town, I was there the night he renounced the pre-trib doctrine and admitted he had been wrong. He's really more "pre-wrath" than he is post trib. But giant strides have been made.

[seekerman]

What tribulation are yall wanting to miss...or go through? Scripturally I mean.

[Michael The Disciple]

What tribulation are yall wanting to miss...or go through? Scripturally I mean.

The end time Christian is not going to miss the great tribulation.

[RandyWayne]

The end time Christian is not going to miss the great tribulation.

Which is why we're stocking up on bullets, beans, and band aids. :)

[Michael The Disciple]

Which is why we're stocking up on bullets, beans, and band aids. :)

Well the scriptures must be fulfilled as Yeshua told Peter after he cut off Malchus's ear.

[renee819]

Michael, I’m Post Trib and Pre-Wrath, but then, I don’t have a church. Nor is there one that I can go to.

Oh, that God’s people would study God’s Word for themselves.

[Steve Epley]

I know many post-trib churches.

[Michael The Disciple]

I know many post-trib churches.

Please list.

[Monterrey]

I am post trib........


Way post trib!

[seekerman]

The end time Christian is not going to miss the great tribulation.


What end time trib you referring to?

[Michael The Disciple]

What end time trib you referring to?

Start another thread please. Im asking in this thread where are the Churches teaching it. Its being debated elsewhere.

[Bro. Robbins]

Within our organization, the Emmanuel Churches of Christ, it is predominantly Post-Trib. We have churches in KY, TN and AL. Our churches range from very conservative in standards, to some that many would consider liberal on outward appearance, depends on which local fellowship. Probably 60% are post Tribbers, 25% are Mid-Tribbers, and the rest of us are Pre-Trib.

If you want to know specific congregations within specific cities of the Emmanuel Churches, please send me a private message and I will provide. We do not have an Internet presence at this time.

[HRea]

Great idea but....I know Bro Baxter was bona fide post trib years ago when I listened to his tapes. Is he still with what he taught then? I know it was being said that he believes we are like in the fifth trumpet or some like thing. If thats true Im not so sure I want him representing my views. Hope Im wrong.

But yes maybe he has a list of post trib Churches. I hope so.
We've used Bro. Baxter's Endtime video series which I thought were excellent and had great teaching. There were one or a couple of places that I wasn't quite on the same page as Bro. Baxter, but that's ok. I am on his weekly news email list. He hasn't changed his stance on the endtime.

I think whenever we hear something that is different than what another has taught, we're obligated to verify what the Word says about it. Start with the scriptural references used and bridge out from there. The Word will either definitively confirm or disprove what was taught. In either case, your faith is strengthened by know what the Word said on the matter.

[BroGary]

Ok any recent additions to Apostolic Churches that teach post trib?

I don't know for sure if he is pastoring now, but I read where Ken Raggio had been both a pastor and an evangelist, and he teaches post-trib.

Here is one of his web articles on the topic -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-PreOrPostTrib.htm

(near the end of that article is a link to another with even more details showing the scriptural validity of post-trib)

[Michael The Disciple]

I don't know for sure if he is pastoring now, but I read where Ken Raggio had been both a pastor and an evangelist, and he teaches post-trib.

Here is one of his web articles on the topic -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-PreOrPostTrib.htm

(near the end of that article is a link to another with even more details showing the scriptural validity of post-trib)

I have read his post trib teaching on several occasions. What I remember he teaches it strait. He was in Alaska then.