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KWSS1976
10-09-2009, 08:54 AM
NASA Probe Hits Moon South Pole Looking for Water

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562860,00.html


Come on now can we say waste of money...really who cares if there is water on the Moon that money could of help so many people out....

Thinking
10-09-2009, 08:59 AM
Who cares whether or not the earth is round?

Aquila
10-09-2009, 09:27 AM
Finding water would be the first step in colonization.

KWSS1976
10-09-2009, 09:29 AM
How could you colonize on the moon???What would you eat a moon rock steak...We could all drink rolling rock I guess....

coadie
10-09-2009, 09:31 AM
How could you colonize on the moon???

check it out first. When we get the colonoscopy report I will letcha know.:thumbsup

Tina
10-09-2009, 10:31 AM
NASA Probe Hits Moon South Pole Looking for Water

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562860,00.html


Come on now can we say waste of money...really who cares if there is water on the Moon that money could of help so many people out....

$79 million--- to crash a spacecraft. Just amazing....... don't even get me started.... this is even more irritating to me than the nobel prize story that made headlines today.

Nitehawk013
10-09-2009, 10:56 AM
Colonizing a rock with no life supporting atmosphere?

Can we start the colonization with sex offenders and democrats?

coadie
10-09-2009, 10:59 AM
$79 million--- to crash a spacecraft. Just amazing....... don't even get me started.... this is even more irritating to me than the nobel prize story that made headlines today.

We need to find if there are other places that could support life and the formation of life.

Yes it is wasted

Nitehawk013
10-09-2009, 11:02 AM
With that money they could have sent a check for how much to people who work but are about to lose their homes? Or spent how much to research a cure for cancer? Instead....we shot it at the moon to see if there were any infinitely small amounts of water molecules in the dust there.

Nice investment. Good job US Government. You guys are doing a wonderful job. :)

RandyWayne
10-11-2009, 11:43 PM
It's not about colonizing the moon, it's about using it as a base site to launch a manned Mars mission.

Praxeas
10-12-2009, 01:18 AM
NASA Probe Hits Moon South Pole Looking for Water

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562860,00.html


Come on now can we say waste of money...really who cares if there is water on the Moon that money could of help so many people out....
Unless we can find an economical way to ship it back here, have Pepsi bottle it as moon water for cheap...its just a huge waste of money

crakjak
10-12-2009, 08:41 AM
Proverbs 25:2
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

It honors God that man wants to study what He has created!!

The poor you always have with you, so give and bless the poor, and give to cancer research, but don't neglect to glorify God in searching out His secrets.

John Atkinson
10-12-2009, 08:47 AM
Proverbs 25:2
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

It honors God that man wants to study what He has created!!

The poor you always have with you, so give and bless the poor, and give to cancer research, but don't neglect to glorify God in searching out His secrets.
I like that perspective, never thought it from that angle, but I like it!

coadie
10-12-2009, 08:53 AM
Proverbs 25:2
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

It honors God that man wants to study what He has created!!

The poor you always have with you, so give and bless the poor, and give to cancer research, but don't neglect to glorify God in searching out His secrets.

The truth is until 150 years ago, science was driven by people to see the wonders of creation. The big change now is reversing this and several segments of science are totally devoted to seek explanations for a godless creation. The peacock, the birds singing and all the wonders are now cast in light of survival of the fittest.

Water and life on other planets is the new explantion of abiogenesis. Man now says life could hve been dropped on our planet since it seems improbable it was created by abiogenesis here.

Nitehawk013
10-12-2009, 09:00 AM
If they find water on the moon Coadie is right. It will not be used to expose the glory of our God. It will be trumpetted everywhere by the death worshippers (evolution followers) as evidence of their no-god origins. Just watch.

ManOfWord
10-12-2009, 09:12 AM
NASA Probe Hits Moon South Pole Looking for Water

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562860,00.html


Come on now can we say waste of money...really who cares if there is water on the Moon that money could of help so many people out....

Who cares? Not me!

crakjak
10-12-2009, 09:16 AM
The truth is until 150 years ago, science was driven by people to see the wonders of creation. The big change now is reversing this and several segments of science are totally devoted to seek explanations for a godless creation. The peacock, the birds singing and all the wonders are now cast in light of survival of the fittest.

Water and life on other planets is the new explantion of abiogenesis. Man now says life could hve been dropped on our planet since it seems improbable it was created by abiogenesis here.

Yes, that element is prevails in our culture, yet there are those such as Gerald Schroeder, who has authored several powerful books that look at the wonders of the creation and sees God. So, why listen to the gainsayers they will alway be with us, and their ignorance will be revealed. We cannot fight ignorance with ignorance. Real study of this subject is torture to me, but it is almost to see the wonders of the complexity of the creation.

God created the cosmos, and He left his tracks for us to search out. The creation is His masterpiece, and it is very complex, our simplistic answers do not do it "glory".

Nitehawk013
10-12-2009, 09:32 AM
our simplistic answers do not do it "glory".

I disagree so much with this. I think the idea that it took God billions of years to create this universe makes Hims ound weak and disorganized. If you are omnipotent and all knowing, why does it take you billions of years to speak somethign into existence? Sure...it would take man that long to come up with everything. God however is so far above man that we cannot even truly wrap our brains around His glory.

I think His glory is far more apparent in the young earth model and the world He gave man before the flood destroyed it.

crakjak
10-12-2009, 09:56 AM
our simplistic answers do not do it "glory".

I disagree so much with this. I think the idea that it took God billions of years to create this universe makes Hims ound weak and disorganized. If you are omnipotent and all knowing, why does it take you billions of years to speak somethign into existence? Sure...it would take man that long to come up with everything. God however is so far above man that we cannot even truly wrap our brains around His glory.

I think His glory is far more apparent in the young earth model and the world He gave man before the flood destroyed it.

I don't believe it took billions of years, in cosmic time. The creation was created at a cosmic speed that is at earth time is very long time. Per Gerald Schroeder, anyway the result is an "aged" earth. We don't know near as much as we think we do, at lest I don't.

Nitehawk013
10-12-2009, 10:03 AM
Schroeder is a great mind. I admit that. I loved his part in "Expelled". I cannot agree with his assertion of an old earth though. I think too much is contrary to that idea.

We obviously don't know everything. Even the YEC theories I believe to be true have problems, but no more than the OEC and Evolution theories do. I think men like Hovind, Moehlenpah, Ham, Morris and such make better arguments from scripture and science than the opposition though.

Apocrypha
10-12-2009, 11:31 AM
If we can get to the asteroid belt and get resource rich asteroids into either lunar or earth orbit it will be a near limitless supply of metal and minerals for future generations.

mfblume
11-13-2009, 10:52 PM
Water would be needed for rocket fuel as well.

Some space policy experts say that makes the moon attractive for exploration again. Having an abundance of water would make it easier to set up a base camp for astronauts, supplying drinking water and a key ingredient for rocket fuel.

Timmy
11-13-2009, 10:56 PM
If they don't find water, maybe they'll at least find a large monolith. That, alone, would make it all worth it!

Sam
11-13-2009, 11:08 PM
Who cares if there is water on the moon?

Well, if you were up there and thirsty, you would care.

crakjak
11-14-2009, 12:21 AM
Who cares if there is water on the moon?

Well, if you were up there and thirsty, you would care.

They are claiming to have found lotsa water on the moon, can you believe that?

crakjak
11-14-2009, 12:30 AM
Schroeder is a great mind. I admit that. I loved his part in "Expelled". I cannot agree with his assertion of an old earth though. I think too much is contrary to that idea.

We obviously don't know everything. Even the YEC theories I believe to be true have problems, but no more than the OEC and Evolution theories do. I think men like Hovind, Moehlenpah, Ham, Morris and such make better arguments from scripture and science than the opposition though.

You should read Schroeder explaination of the six day creation, seems to make great sense to me.

He believes the 'big bang' was the creation, and that it was in hyper speed! Earth time, he showed evidence scripturally and scientifically to begin when man was created. We should not be ignorant, God created the universe, and science is uncovering some of his tracks. He uses very early commentators of the Hebrew scriptures, and he uncovers some very interesting meaning in those early Hebrew scriptures.

Doesn't mean we have to accept everything, but this can add to our understanding.

His book, "The Hidden Face of God" was breathtaking to me personally, I guess I was sleeping thru biology classes. Also, newer microscopes have unveiled things that were not known when I was in class, so it just wasn't known.

notofworks
11-14-2009, 07:20 AM
There just happens to be a documentary out there right now of a UPC pastor who says his church will be the first to colonize another planet. Maybe he meant the moon.....you never know!

*AQuietPlace*
11-14-2009, 07:53 AM
Who cares whether or not the earth is round?
:thumbsup

Most people didn't care about electricity back in the beginning either, but we definitely appreciate it now! :) You just never know where discoveries might lead.

Michael The Disciple
11-14-2009, 08:49 AM
Not quite as interesting as this found on Mars. At 3:40 seconds into the video you will see what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aROqWGZ3gDg

Nonetheless water on the Moon is a good find.

mfblume
11-14-2009, 06:06 PM
I hear echoes of Richard Hoagland. That is a freaky video.

RandyWayne
11-14-2009, 09:24 PM
Not quite as interesting as this found on Mars. At 3:40 seconds into the video you will see what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aROqWGZ3gDg

Nonetheless water on the Moon is a good find.

Of course, we cannot discount the "Face on Mars" as it was caught by a much higher resolution camera recently.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/RandyWayneD/Jokes/Mars_face_HiRISE_MROcopy.jpg

pelathais
11-15-2009, 08:08 AM
NASA Probe Hits Moon South Pole Looking for Water

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562860,00.html


Come on now can we say waste of money...really who cares if there is water on the Moon that money could of help so many people out....
Water on the moon equals rocket fuel in space. One of the greatest inefficiencies of space flight is that the fuel the space vessel is to use must be accelerated into space at tremendous cost.

The Space Shuttle, for example, weighs 165,000 pounds empty. But just to get it into orbit requires a fuel load of almost 3,300,000 pounds: almost 20 times the weight of the shuttle itself. And then this leaves a comparatively smaller amout of fuel left in the internal tanks for manuevering. The shuttle just doesn't have enough "gas" to go anywhere or to do much more than circle the globe on the inertia of its initial launch.

To go to Mars we'll need a lot of fuel for the trip. Having a store already in space will save a tremendous amount of money.

You seemed to also be asking, "Why have a space program with all of its expense any way...?" In a capitalistic society with free and open markets, wealth is generated from nothing. The "cost" of the space program actually represents something of the "surplus" of the wealth the American society has created.

By stimulating the human spirit with things like space travel we can stimulate our economy as well. There are of course issue concerning the ways in which wealth is distributed. A more equitable distribution of wealth could in fact solve most of the problems that critics of the space program point out here at home.

Also, we do have something of a mandate to learn about and to understand our world, our universe and ourselves (Proverbs 25:2). As a people we should expend a certain amount of energy and resources just on the adventure of discovery.

pelathais
11-15-2009, 08:58 AM
Proverbs 25:2
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

It honors God that man wants to study what He has created!!

The poor you always have with you, so give and bless the poor, and give to cancer research, but don't neglect to glorify God in searching out His secrets.
hmm...

You all just play the zero sum game like the happy little Obama minions that you are. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Prax I'm especially disappointed in you. I didn't see this thread until it got bumped up this morn, so my comments are a bit "after the fact," but still... guys! C'mon!

It's OUTER SPACE! How cool is that?

If you were really onto something with the idea of throwing money at social problems then you would already being throwing more of your income at "the poor" with their "cancer" and whatever. Instead I see you you guys driving your monster trucks to dine out every weekend like fat cats at the local Shoney's.

If you really wanted to end all social ills then you'd give all of your money away. Except you know intuitively that doing so wouldn't solve the problems, but you'd only make things worse by becoming a "social problem" yourself.