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Ferd
11-20-2009, 12:21 PM
If you have not heard... and care... Something earth shaking in the Climate Science world has happened in the last few days.


Over night reports began to surface that CRU (Brittan’s Climate Research Unit) computers were hacked and 61 MB of data was copied and made public.

The folks at CRU are some of the HEAVY HITTERS in the world of Man Mad Global Warming. In fact the two main men at CRU (Phil Jones and Keith Briffa) are two of the most important authors of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) reports that the world uses to try to prove Man made global warming.

among the hacked information are emails that suggest they were attempting to tweak data to say there was warming when there wasn’t, instances where they talk about keeping Skeptics from having access to peer review process and an instance of gloating over the death of an AGW skeptic scientist.

And a lot of other crazy stuff that is blowing the lid off the AGW hoax!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/


I cant help myself, I am just giddy over this! LOL!

deltaguitar
11-20-2009, 12:40 PM
please let this be true!!!

Ferd
11-20-2009, 12:45 PM
please let this be true!!!

Oh its true! Phil Jones (not ours) of CUR fame has already done interviews and stated they were hacked and that the data he has seen is theres.

ALL of hte heavy hitters are implicated. Michael Mann, McKittrick (sp) are also implicated.

There are emails requesting people hard delete other emails to eliminate paper trails. there is stuff on avoiding taxes etc.

I dont know what the mainstream media is going to do with this but it is HOT on the internet.

I have not been able to get on Climate Audit today.

can you tell i am happy? LOL!

Ferd
11-20-2009, 12:47 PM
Oh how awesome!!!!!!!!

IT IS FRONT PAGE OF FOXNEWS.COM

http://www.foxnews.com/

jfrog
11-20-2009, 01:17 PM
Me and you agree on something Ferd... AMAZING!

Ferd
11-20-2009, 01:21 PM
Me and you agree on something Ferd... AMAZING!

some of this stuff is just unreal.

Phil Jones told Michael Mann that he and Keith Briffa would keep Roger Pelkie's work (Pelkie is a skeptic) out of the next IPCC report no matter what.

amazing.

EA
11-20-2009, 02:05 PM
When I was a kid, the climatologists warned of a coming Ice Age. I'm beginning to think "climatologist" is another label for highly educated idiots.

rgcraig
11-20-2009, 02:09 PM
I just saw on NBC last night in Iceland a whole camp set up down under the ice that cut plugs of ice and determine they are over 11,000 years old and they study the layers to determine the temperature changes.

I'm watching this and thinking - why?

RandyWayne
11-20-2009, 04:35 PM
Oh how awesome!!!!!!!!

IT IS FRONT PAGE OF FOXNEWS.COM

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576009,00.html

Timmy
11-20-2009, 04:45 PM
I just saw on NBC last night in Iceland a whole camp set up down under the ice that cut plugs of ice and determine they are over 11,000 years old and they study the layers to determine the temperature changes.

I'm watching this and thinking - why?

They must be evil atheistic scientists trying to disprove the Bible so they can sin with abandon.

Ev. Duane Williams
11-20-2009, 09:11 PM
They must be evil atheistic scientists trying to disprove the Bible so they can sin with abandon.

sounds about right! Alright Tim, you're starting to catch on!

pelathais
11-21-2009, 01:10 AM
I just saw on NBC last night in Iceland a whole camp set up down under the ice that cut plugs of ice and determine they are over 11,000 years old and they study the layers to determine the temperature changes.

I'm watching this and thinking - why?

They must be evil atheistic scientists trying to disprove the Bible so they can sin with abandon.
Or, it could be that since the earth's climate is continually going through some sort of "Climate Change" understanding the patterns and the effects of the various changes might help us to better plan for our futures.

Leif Erickson grew cereal crops and vegetables in Greenland over 1,000 years ago. Even with all of the awful Global Warming of the Industrial Era, farming in the soil of Greenland is still not doable, though there are those who have constructed raised or "box gardens" which keep the plants up out of the frozen ground itself.

But since the onset of the "Little Ice Age" around 1100 AD no one has been able to reproduce what Leif Erickson did.

Apocrypha
11-21-2009, 04:29 AM
Or, it could be that since the earth's climate is continually going through some sort of "Climate Change" understanding the patterns and the effects of the various changes might help us to better plan for our futures.

Leif Erickson grew cereal crops and vegetables in Greenland over 1,000 years ago. Even with all of the awful Global Warming of the Industrial Era, farming in the soil of Greenland is still not doable, though there are those who have constructed raised or "box gardens" which keep the plants up out of the frozen ground itself.

But since the onset of the "Little Ice Age" around 1100 AD no one has been able to reproduce what Leif Erickson did.

If I remember right from the history channel episode about the little ice age whole villages were swallowed up by glaciers as they moved a few feet a month. Also the American rebellion happened right when the little ice age was breaking and General Washington had to put up with some severe temps and those pictures of him crossing the Deleware river with near iceburgs wasn't a artists fancy, it actually looked like that.

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=69311

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