The Fall of the Republic

[ILG]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/26/How-Trillions-of-Dollars-Were-Stolen-From-US-Taxpayers.aspx

[DividedThigh]

god help us, deliver us from the socialist that lurk, lol

[ILG]

This is a really good video....it's long but watch it if you get a chance!!! It shows how the economic problems have been orchestrated etc. I've always believed that to be true..

[Dedicated Mind]

more looney conspiracy theories

[ILG]

more looney conspiracy theories

When they won't tell us where 1/2 a trillion dollars of the taxpayer money went, that's a conspiracy theory? When does it become reality?

[Digging4Truth]

D4T's Dictionary.

Conspiracy Theory n. - derogatory information about someone you are in favor of.

[ILG]

DM,

Have you actually watched the whole 2 1/2 hour video or did you just dismiss it?

[ILG]

D4T's Dictionary.

Conspiracy Theory n. - derogatory information about someone you are in favor of.

There are way, way, way, too many questions about what is happening as far as I am concerned. But, in this video, they say what I've thought for a long time....once you get way up, it doesn't matter whether you carry the republican or democrat label....that's just a front to make us think we have any choice in what is happening. In reality, I don't believe we do. People can call that a conspiracy theory if they want. Theories have been around for a long and and guess what? Exactly what they said would happen is happening!!

Another question in the back of my mind....my Dad said before Obama was elected that there would be a bullet shortage. Guess what? My husband went to buy bullets for deer hunting season and there were none. What's up with that??

[Dedicated Mind]

DM,

Have you actually watched the whole 2 1/2 hour video or did you just dismiss it?

i watched about 15 minutes of it and was disappointed. can you tell us some hard facts in it that will make it worth watching?

[ILG]

i watched about 15 minutes of it and was disappointed. can you tell us some hard facts in it that will make it worth watching?

There is a great deal of interesting stuff. The cap and trade information is, I think, the most interesting at the present time as this is going to affect us all soon. There is information on the falling dollar, etc. This is not just a lot of conspirist gobbeldy-gook. This is all happening. Do some google searches and see what's happening. If it's not all happening exactly as this video describes, it IS all happening.

[John Atkinson]

I don't need a video to tell methe republic is done and done..
History paints Junius Brutus and Cassius Longinus as traitors and murderers.

They were patriots, this isn't the first time in history a republic has fallen...

[Esther]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/26/How-Trillions-of-Dollars-Were-Stolen-From-US-Taxpayers.aspx

This was long, but worth watching. A little depressing, but sometimes truth is.

It makes you consider getting rid of your TV. :)

I say the only hope for America is PRAYER!

[ILG]

This was long, but worth watching. A little depressing, but sometimes truth is.

It makes you consider getting rid of your TV. :)

I say the only hope for America is PRAYER!

I definately thought it was worth watching. We don't have a hooked up TV anyway.....just watch videos...

I do think it makes a difference.....all legalistic arguments aside. It is a personal choice.

But I think everyone should watch the video (unless they don't watch videos...)

[Esther]

I definately thought it was worth watching. We don't have a hooked up TV anyway.....just watch videos...

I do think it makes a difference.....all legalistic arguments aside. It is a personal choice.

But I think everyone should watch the video (unless they don't watch videos...)

I was amazed that they plan to use pastors to help promote their agenda!:sad

[Monterrey]

Friends, compadre's, hermanos y hermanas,

I would suggest that you get a passport if you don't have one already. There are other countries to go to but you need your docs in order!

[Nitehawk013]

This is what happens when there are no Jedi Knights left to defend the Republic. Soon the Empire will rule.

[ILG]

Friends, compadre's, hermanos y hermanas,

I would suggest that you get a passport if you don't have one already. There are other countries to go to but you need your docs in order!

I don't think it's wrong to keep a watchful eye.

[DividedThigh]

obama coolaid, is just as dangerous as any body elses, numbs the brain, lol

[Nitehawk013]

I have a Passport. And I hear you can live pretty hgh on the hog in Mexico if you have about $20,000 USD.

[Esther]

obama coolaid, is just as dangerous as any body elses, numbs the brain, lol

If you watch the video you will see it is not about Obama. He is just another pawn in their scheme.

[DividedThigh]

with the storm coming in mexico sounds very nice, need some global warming, dt

[DividedThigh]

If you watch the video you will see it is not about Obama. He is just another pawn in their scheme.

and that wasnt my point sis, thanks anyway, dt

[Nitehawk013]

Im disappointed no one commented on myh Star Wars reference. Are there no fans on this site? LOL.

[DividedThigh]

Im disappointed no one commented on myh Star Wars reference. Are there no fans on this site? LOL.

i thought it was cool ,dt

[Monterrey]

I have a Passport. And I hear you can live pretty hgh on the hog in Mexico if you have about $20,000 USD.

Right now the dollar is worth about 12-14 pesos. A friend who is a teacher in Puebla only makes about 6000 pesos a month and lives very well. That equals out to about $525.00 a month.

20k would go a long way.

[Digging4Truth]

Right now the dollar is worth about 12-14 pesos. A friend who is a teacher in Puebla only makes about 6000 pesos a month and lives very well. That equals out to about $525.00 a month.

20k would go a long way.

But you can't own property there. No biggie. Just sayin'

I remember when the peso was around 2500 pesos to the dollar. I was thinking... I should spend about $400 and get one million pesos and then just wait for the peso to come back.

Yeah... shoulda, coulda, woulda. But didn't

[ILG]

Right now the dollar is worth about 12-14 pesos. A friend who is a teacher in Puebla only makes about 6000 pesos a month and lives very well. That equals out to about $525.00 a month.

20k would go a long way.

I have a passport. My MIL is seriously considering retiring there.

[DividedThigh]

might be a good move, since the illegals are leaving a little elbow room, lol

[ILG]

But you can't own property there. No biggie. Just sayin'

I remember when the peso was around 2500 pesos to the dollar. I was thinking... I should spend about $400 and get one million pesos and then just wait for the peso to come back.

Yeah... shoulda, coulda, woulda. But didn't

I did buy that gold we talked about here a couple years back. I just sold it. $$$$$ :D

[Monterrey]

But you can't own property there. No biggie. Just sayin'

I remember when the peso was around 2500 pesos to the dollar. I was thinking... I should spend about $400 and get one million pesos and then just wait for the peso to come back.

Yeah... shoulda, coulda, woulda. But didn't

I suppose you mean as an american you can't own prop there. I am not sure where you are getting your info but I understand it different.

An american cannot own property in the restricted zone, but elsewhere in the interior he can.

A good site to go to is:

http://www.mexonline.com/propmex.htm

Let me know what you find out.

[Monterrey]

might be a good move, since the illegals are leaving a little elbow room, lol

Many are going back, the great dream of getting rich has faded!

[Dedicated Mind]

well ILG, I watched the entire video and I am glad that it faults both republican and democratic administrations. I agree that the climate change regime and the cap and trade system is just a front for world government, but what can be done about it?

I heard the usual accusations against the federal reserve, but no concrete facts about who is in charge of the fed and what exactly are they doing to undermine democracy. There are a lot of charges about homeland security but I don't see an agenda to oppose it.

the video has a lot of charges but not enough facts as to what can be done to oppose a global regime. I think one world government is destiny and nothing can be done to stop it. Money rules the world and corporate interests make the laws.

[Digging4Truth]

I think one world government is destiny and nothing can be done to stop it. Money rules the world and corporate interests make the laws.


This prompts a question in my mind.

Are you of the futurist belief concerning the subject of eschatology?

[Dedicated Mind]

This prompts a question in my mind.

Are you of the futurist belief concerning the subject of eschatology?

yes, why. how are things different from your perspective?

[Digging4Truth]

yes, why. how are things different from your perspective?

As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.

[Dedicated Mind]

As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.

can u explain how rev 13 has been fulfilled already?

[Dedicated Mind]

if you want similar info of what is on the video, there is alex jones website called infowars.com.

jesse ventura also has a show called conspiracy theory on tru tv airing this week covering 9/11, 2012 and climate change.

[Monterrey]

As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.

So do you think that after the fall of the Repub, that everything will be rebuilt again? It has take 70 years in Russia and things still have not recovered.

Would it not be better if we preplanned some sort of evacuation plan to another counrty. If things go to pot here it is likely to get really bad for Christians.

Socialism is opposed to Christianity. Things will begin to look bad for the Christians still in this nation.

[Kae]

This was long, but worth watching. A little depressing, but sometimes truth is.

It makes you consider getting rid of your TV. :)

I say the only hope for America is PRAYER!

We definitely need to be praying. We are to blame in part. Do you vote in your local elections? Do you vote for you state elections? So many have sat back for so long and only voted for a president. We were handed a republic not a democracy that gave us the power. We have chosen to sit back and let the government takeover. We are now waking up to what they are doing and finally the people who have been sounding the alarm for so long are being believed. The only way we will get back control is through local government and putting the power back in the state government instead of the federal government. There is still time for this to happen, but people have to get out and do their part.

If you did an open records request on your government agencies (PD, Fire Department, schools) you would be surprised at where the money goes. We the people have to keep them in check and if we do not, can we expect any less from them.

Up until the late 1800's the people used to put into office Godly men and Godly men would run for office. Robert Ingersol started teaching the the church should stay in the 4 walls of the church and out of government. The churches picked up this teaching and for so long we have heard that we should stay away from politics. So today we don't have men of virtue in office but corrupt men. Corrupt men will only produce corrupt government.

[Monterrey]

I believe that this is a coming judgment for the decisions made back in 1973, Roe vs Wade, this country has destroyed millions of babies. God will judge.

It has now been almost 40 years. One generation.

Just my opinion.

[ILG]

well ILG, I watched the entire video and I am glad that it faults both republican and democratic administrations. I agree that the climate change regime and the cap and trade system is just a front for world government, but what can be done about it?

I heard the usual accusations against the federal reserve, but no concrete facts about who is in charge of the fed and what exactly are they doing to undermine democracy. There are a lot of charges about homeland security but I don't see an agenda to oppose it.

the video has a lot of charges but not enough facts as to what can be done to oppose a global regime. I think one world government is destiny and nothing can be done to stop it. Money rules the world and corporate interests make the laws.

Glad you watched it. And, yes, it is not about republican or democrat but about the way the government is going.

No concrete facts about WHO is in charge of the fed because does anybody know?? Do you know???

The problem is not enough facts and that is the point. No facts about where 1/2 a trillion dollars went. Representatives not being allowed to read 300 pages of a bill put in there at 3:00 in the morning that they are supposed to vote on. Too much secrecy. Not enough facts. The fed has never been audited in it's whole history according to this video.

[ILG]

As a futurist growing up I was taught about all of the horrible things that were coming.

One world government
One world church
A person who is the antichrist
etc etc etc.

That paradigm builds the following thought process within us.

It is coming.
It will happen.
God said it.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.

As a partial preterist I see much of the scriptures used to further those thought as past and I no longer see things things as necessarily inevitable.

The futurist mindset demands that these things be inevitable.

Hmm. To my thinking they are not necessarily inevitable. That sounds fatalistic.

[ILG]

if you want similar info of what is on the video, there is alex jones website called infowars.com.

jesse ventura also has a show called conspiracy theory on tru tv airing this week covering 9/11, 2012 and climate change.

Thanks.

[Digging4Truth]

Hmm. To my thinking they are not necessarily inevitable. That sounds fatalistic.

But it is... generally speaking... the paradigm of the futurist.

[ChTatum]

Watched a portion, will try to watch it all, but 2 1/2 hours of uninterrupted time is hard to come by!

I was enjoying it until Jesse Ventura came on.....not a credible source IMO.

[ILG]

But it is... generally speaking... the paradigm of the futurist.

I don't disagree with that.

[ILG]

Watched a portion, will try to watch it all, but 2 1/2 hours of uninterrupted time is hard to come by!

I was enjoying it until Jesse Ventura came on.....not a credible source IMO.

Well, he was a governor. He must know a couple things!

[ChTatum]

Well, he was a governor. He must know a couple things!


Yes, well, you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.