Tiger Woods Update Thread

[Dedicated Mind]

I'm surprised that no one on AFF has mentioned Tiger Woods. I thought it was none of my business but the news keeps avalanching in a negative direction. Tiger is up to 10 mistresses. Does this change your view of him. Are you less a fan of his because of these indescretions?

yesterday I read his wife moved out of his house and today I read a woman was hospitalized from his home. Could be his wife Elin or his mother in law. Where is all this going to end? will his sponsors dump him?

[MomOfADramaQn]

Should we be gossiping about someones personal life?

[KWSS1976]

The only thing tiger can drive is a golf ball it's pretty apparent he cannot drive a car...lol

[notofworks]

I'm surprised that no one on AFF has mentioned Tiger Woods. I thought it was none of my business but the news keeps avalanching in a negative direction. Tiger is up to 10 mistresses. Does this change your view of him. Are you less a fan of his because of these indescretions?

yesterday I read his wife moved out of his house and today I read a woman was hospitalized from his home. Could be his wife Elin or his mother in law. Where is all this going to end? will his sponsors dump him?


Are you kidding? I've been barking my butt off on the "More Jokes" thread. I'm heartbroken for him and I'm more heartbroken that the reaction is joking and not sorrow. Personally, I will still root for him just like I always have. He's been my favorite golfer since he won his first US Amateur in 1994. My prayer for him is that he finds a place of grace in Christ and that he and his family are able to recover from this awful mess.

[Dedicated Mind]

Should we be gossiping about someones personal life?

I think fans of tiger woods should have an opinion on how he leads his personal life. It could diminish his standing in the eyes of many.

[scotty]

Like they say, its the ones you least expect. I do predict he will lose some sponsers but not all. His behavior is more wide spread than most would admit, he just got caught.

[Baron1710]

I will say this and leave it alone. Tiger has made more money making his life public than he has through golf, for him to suddenly claim privacy is a joke. When you market yourself you should know that privacy is no longer an option.

[notofworks]

I think fans of tiger woods should have an opinion on how he leads his personal life. It could diminish his standing in the eyes of many.

I do have an opinion, but if we start digging into the personal lives of actors, singers, and athletes, we'll have to eliminate 98% of the entertainment portion of our lives.

[scotty]

I do have an opinion, but if we start digging into the personal lives of actors, singers, and athletes, we'll have to eliminate 98% of the entertainment portion of our lives.

Hmmmm, "I know its wrong , but I dont WANT to know its wrong." Guess that would make it right :thumbsup

[Dedicated Mind]

I do have an opinion, but if we start digging into the personal lives of actors, singers, and athletes, we'll have to eliminate 98% of the entertainment portion of our lives.

I disagree. Most actors lives are up for scrutiny by the tabloid press and it does affect my choice in entertainment. I personally would not watch a Linsey Lohan movie, Ellen Degeneres, Rosie Odonell or other gay entertainers. I used to be an Adam Lambert fan but after his performance at the awards show, I'm through with him.

Personal lives do matter in our choice of entertainment.

[ILG]

I'm surprised that no one on AFF has mentioned Tiger Woods. I thought it was none of my business but the news keeps avalanching in a negative direction. Tiger is up to 10 mistresses. Does this change your view of him. Are you less a fan of his because of these indescretions?

yesterday I read his wife moved out of his house and today I read a woman was hospitalized from his home. Could be his wife Elin or his mother in law. Where is all this going to end? will his sponsors dump him?

Oh no, I am MORE of a fan, now!! Go Tiger!!!:ursofunny

(Ask a stupid question......)

[MissBrattified]

I'm surprised that no one on AFF has mentioned Tiger Woods. I thought it was none of my business but the news keeps avalanching in a negative direction. Tiger is up to 10 mistresses. Does this change your view of him. Are you less a fan of his because of these indescretions?

yesterday I read his wife moved out of his house and today I read a woman was hospitalized from his home. Could be his wife Elin or his mother in law. Where is all this going to end? will his sponsors dump him?

I feel sorry for people who have no privacy. It should be between him and his wife to work this out--not between him and the world.

[notofworks]

I disagree. Most actors lives are up for scrutiny by the tabloid press and it does affect my choice in entertainment. I personally would not watch a Linsey Lohan movie, Ellen Degeneres, Rosie Odonell or other gay entertainers. I used to be an Adam Lambert fan but after his performance at the awards show, I'm through with him.

Personal lives do matter in our choice of entertainment.


I get pounded on this one every time, don't I? :ursofunny

[brodaniels]

These are the end times. Men will be lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God.

[StillStanding]

For those that haven't seen it, here a hilarious SNL skit:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/tiger-woods-accident/1182383/?__cid=thefilter

[Monterrey]

Num 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.

Old tigger is just finding out it is payback time for all his indescretions.

Hmmmm... 10 mistresses, that we know of,.....

Yep, Be sure your sins will find you out!

Feel sorry for him? Only as much sorrow as I would feel for any sinner wrapped up in sin. He is not nor ever has been my hero. My hero's come from the Bible.

Tiger needs to repent, get Baptized in Jesus name, and recieve the beautiful gift of the Holy Ghost.

He might even have to do as the rich young ruler, ....

Take, sell all that you have, give to the poor and come and follow Jesus.

Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

[n david]

I hope his wife takes the $300 million and kicks him to the curb.

If a man or woman has one affair, work it out. Seek help and try to keep the marriage together. A second affair ... tougher, but better to try and work out and keep the family together.

Ten separate affairs ... not a chance to save anything. The marriage is over because of Woods himself. He's completely (and publicly) humiliated, dishonored and disrespected her. He obviously views the vows he took as a complete joke.

But now he's sorry ... because he got caught. His sorrow and repentence is only there because of being caught. Had that not happened, it would be business as usual. The proof of this is the voicemail that was released where he called one of his *ahem* homewreckers (to be nice; another word or two comes to mind but will not be mentioned) to beg her to remove her name from her voicemail because his wife went thru his phone and got her number.

Had Woods truely been sorry, that would not have happened. It did, he isn't and the list will likely only get bigger.

His wife should have her and the kids checked for an STD, especially since one of the homewreckers is a porn star.

Disgusting. Woods may be a good golfer, but nothing else. I hope his sponsors change their minds and dump him. He's not a role model for a company or product.

[Monterrey]

I hope his wife takes the $300 million and kicks him to the curb.

If a man or woman has one affair, work it out. Seek help and try to keep the marriage together. A second affair ... tougher, but better to try and work out and keep the family together.

Ten separate affairs ... not a chance to save anything. The marriage is over because of Woods himself. He's completely (and publicly) humiliated, dishonored and disrespected her. He obviously views the vows he took as a complete joke.

But now he's sorry ... because he got caught. His sorrow and repentence is only there because of being caught. Had that not happened, it would be business as usual. The proof of this is the voicemail that was released where he called one of his *ahem* homewreckers (to be nice; another word or two comes to mind but will not be mentioned) to beg her to remove her name from her voicemail because his wife went thru his phone and got her number.

Had Woods truely been sorry, that would not have happened. It did, he isn't and the list will likely only get bigger.

His wife should have her and the kids checked for an STD, especially since one of the homewreckers is a porn star.

Disgusting. Woods may be a good golfer, but nothing else. I hope his sponsors change their minds and dump him. He's not a role model for a company or product.

To use an archaic word....



DITTO



:thumbsup

[DividedThigh]

i think tiger is a great golfer and personally a piece of garbage, i only feel sorry for his wife and kids, what a loser, dt

[DividedThigh]

I hope his wife takes the $300 million and kicks him to the curb.

If a man or woman has one affair, work it out. Seek help and try to keep the marriage together. A second affair ... tougher, but better to try and work out and keep the family together.

Ten separate affairs ... not a chance to save anything. The marriage is over because of Woods himself. He's completely (and publicly) humiliated, dishonored and disrespected her. He obviously views the vows he took as a complete joke.

But now he's sorry ... because he got caught. His sorrow and repentence is only there because of being caught. Had that not happened, it would be business as usual. The proof of this is the voicemail that was released where he called one of his *ahem* homewreckers (to be nice; another word or two comes to mind but will not be mentioned) to beg her to remove her name from her voicemail because his wife went thru his phone and got her number.

Had Woods truely been sorry, that would not have happened. It did, he isn't and the list will likely only get bigger.

His wife should have her and the kids checked for an STD, especially since one of the homewreckers is a porn star.

Disgusting. Woods may be a good golfer, but nothing else. I hope his sponsors change their minds and dump him. He's not a role model for a company or product.

10 so far is what we know, more roaches still hiding, lol

[StillStanding]

10 so far is what we know, more roaches still hiding, lol
Maybe Tiger hasn't heard the story of Steve McNair!

[Jeffrey]

Amazing how many opinions are out there.
Tiger has sinned. If he were a man in my church, I'd pray that everything worked itself out, that the situation would have room for healing. It's true that the cost of fame involves privacy, but there's a point of that being reasonable. He is still a human. Rich people and poor people are both human. As a Christian community, we should be expected to spearhead giving this family privacy. That doesn't mean we have to pick sides. The wife is hurt. The family is hurt and Tiger is swallowing guilt at a time when most families are decorating for Christmas. Let them be. The press will go on with this as much as they can. I hope he goes on Oprah and has a chat, because that will really let the wind out of some of the media's sails.

Examine your own home. Pray for Tiger's.

[ManOfWord]

All of this points to the fact that CHARACTER means something. And the lack of it or the loss of it is tragic in anyone's life. Repercussions are inevitable. The more familiar and known a person is, the worse they are. Someone has said that when the mighty cedars of Lebanon fall, all the saplings get crushed underneath. I have never rejoiced in the fall of anyone. (joked, yes, rejoiced, no) However, if you don't want your "private" failures known, do not become a public person...because the truth of the matter is that when you become a public person, there is no such thing as privacy. Like it or not, that's the way it is! :D

[DividedThigh]

Maybe Tiger hasn't heard the story of Steve McNair!

someone should tell him that, how sad, to bad, dt

[DividedThigh]

All of this points to the fact that CHARACTER means something. And the lack of it or the loss of it is tragic in anyone's life. Repercussions are inevitable. The more familiar and known a person is, the worse they are. Someone has said that when the mighty cedars of Lebanon fall, all the saplings get crushed underneath. I have never rejoiced in the fall of anyone. (joked, yes, rejoiced, no) However, if you don't want your "private" failures known, do not become a public person...because the truth of the matter is that when you become a public person, there is no such thing as privacy. Like it or not, that's the way it is! :D

well said mow, i would be glad to forget about tiger and his behavior, but i dont think the females will allow that, lol:spit

[Jeffrey]

All of this points to the fact that CHARACTER means something. And the lack of it or the loss of it is tragic in anyone's life. Repercussions are inevitable. The more familiar and known a person is, the worse they are. Someone has said that when the mighty cedars of Lebanon fall, all the saplings get crushed underneath. I have never rejoiced in the fall of anyone. (joked, yes, rejoiced, no) However, if you don't want your "private" failures known, do not become a public person...because the truth of the matter is that when you become a public person, there is no such thing as privacy. Like it or not, that's the way it is! :D

We can say "that's the way it is" or we can say "that's the way it should be." The fact is, Americans are nosey and curious about their celebrities. Yes, this is part of the glitz and glamour life, but we still have a duty to behave as human beings, and realize that the non-celebrity children, the the human heart of his wife, as well as the non-golfer, Tiger Woods (the man) are just like you and I.

We can say abortion is "just the way it is" but you will find no agreement (hopefully) on AFF for abortion. It's not what the condition of things are, it's what things should be that push us forward as a society.

The cat is out of the bag. That's expected. But now it's time to let the Woods Family deal with this pain, without putting our judgemental, pointing fingers on the surface of their glass house.

[tstew]

Were all ten women since he was married?

[Jeffrey]

Were all ten women since he was married?

Let's not kid ourselves why these women are coming forward - MONEY, Celeb Interviews, etc. They were never the victims here.

(Am I understanding your comments correctly?)

[tstew]

Let's not kid ourselves why these women are coming forward - MONEY, Celeb Interviews, etc. They were never the victims here.

(Am I understanding your comments correctly?)

LOL That was a genuine question, not a comment. I'm wondering if all of the women being discussed have been from relationships since his marriage.

As to the victimization, I don't believe any of them are victims...and yes, there will be a money-grab now...it's the American way.

[Baron1710]

LOL That was a genuine question, not a comment. I'm wondering if all of the women being discussed have been from relationships since his marriage.

As to the victimization, I don't believe any of them are victims...and yes, there will be a money-grab now...it's the American way.

Wonder what I could make if I claimed an affair with Tiger?

[Jeffrey]

Wonder what I could make if I claimed an affair with Tiger?

HA! Now that's something to report...

The bigger the scandal the larger the payout.

[tstew]

Wonder what I could make if I claimed an affair with Tiger?

You're a lawyer. You can make some Gloria Allred money by representing one of the women. It's less sensational, but money is money :)

[n david]

The victim here is Woods' wife and children. Woods and the women should be subject to the same public shame and embarassment as his wife and children have and will continue to endure.

The $300 million divorce settlement should help with the moving on, but the emotional and psychological baggage will remain for a long time.

[Baron1710]

You're a lawyer. You can make some Gloria Allred money by representing one of the women. It's less sensational, but money is money :)

Ya I can just sit next to them while they give interviews and then at the end say "Thanks, for having us Katie"

[DividedThigh]

Wonder what I could make if I claimed an affair with Tiger?

besides making me hurl, lol

[Jeffrey]

The victim here is Woods' wife and children. Woods and the women should be subject to the same public shame and embarassment as his wife and children have and will continue to endure.

The $300 million divorce settlement should help with the moving on, but the emotional and psychological baggage will remain for a long time.

The day this was leaked, Tiger experienced shamed.

I pray things can be reconciled, though realizing how nearly impossible that might be.

Either way, I'm not into the "shame game," as if it's my individual responsibility to make sure justice is done to Tiger. Just doesn't sound merciful to me. He will be dealing with the consequences of his actions for years to come. Time for the peanut gallery to fade out black.

[RevDWW]

Do you know how Tiger Woods and baby seals are alike?


Both are in danger of being clubbed in the head by Scandinavians.

[Monterrey]

Do you know how Tiger Woods and baby seals are alike?


Both are in danger of being clubbed in the head by Scandinavians.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Funny!:ursofunny

[MissBrattified]

The victim here is Woods' wife and children. Woods and the women should be subject to the same public shame and embarassment as his wife and children have and will continue to endure.

The $300 million divorce settlement should help with the moving on, but the emotional and psychological baggage will remain for a long time.

Public shame to Woods is equivalent to public shame for his wife and children. Again, the man's behavior is reprehensible, but when your family is under the public microscope, it makes it nearly impossible to set right.

It was like the Britney Spear's fiasco a couple of years ago--already a pitiful mess, and the media made it 10x worse.

[Aquila]

Great golfer, terrible husband.

[Jeffrey]

Great golfer, terrible husband.

Thank God for mulligans called grace.

I'll go back to work on being a better husband myself. I mean I could easily pray right now "Got, I'm just thankful that I'm not as much a loser husband as Tiger is." Sounds too close like a scripture in the NT though.

[notofworks]

I hope his wife takes the $300 million and kicks him to the curb.

If a man or woman has one affair, work it out. Seek help and try to keep the marriage together. A second affair ... tougher, but better to try and work out and keep the family together.

Ten separate affairs ... not a chance to save anything. The marriage is over because of Woods himself. He's completely (and publicly) humiliated, dishonored and disrespected her. He obviously views the vows he took as a complete joke.

But now he's sorry ... because he got caught. His sorrow and repentence is only there because of being caught. Had that not happened, it would be business as usual. The proof of this is the voicemail that was released where he called one of his *ahem* homewreckers (to be nice; another word or two comes to mind but will not be mentioned) to beg her to remove her name from her voicemail because his wife went thru his phone and got her number.

Had Woods truely been sorry, that would not have happened. It did, he isn't and the list will likely only get bigger.

His wife should have her and the kids checked for an STD, especially since one of the homewreckers is a porn star.

Disgusting. Woods may be a good golfer, but nothing else. I hope his sponsors change their minds and dump him. He's not a role model for a company or product.


Yes, let's all get stones in our hands and start throwing!! Him him hard!! Make it hurt! He deserves it, right?

[n david]

Yes, let's all get stones in our hands and start throwing!! Him him hard!! Make it hurt! He deserves it, right?
Have you experienced or had to live with the aftermath of an affair?

In regards to marriage, he deserves losing his wife and $300 million. He made the choice every time, and who knows how many times for how long with each of the 10.

In regards to business, he deserves to lose his sponsorships and money as role model for these companies.

In regards to personal and spiritual matters, should he seek help and is truely repentant, he's deserving of the grace and mercy of God.

[ManOfWord]

You get to go first! You can him him hard!! :D

[Jeffrey]

Have you experienced or had to live with the aftermath of an affair?

In regards to marriage, he deserves losing his wife and $300 million. He made the choice every time, and who knows how many times for how long with each of the 10.

In regards to business, he deserves to lose his sponsorships and money as role model for these companies.

In regards to personal and spiritual matters, should he seek help and is truely repentant, he's deserving of the grace and mercy of God.

What do you deserve?

Are you claiming these 10 women as a fact? Judge, jury and executionary aren't you.

Amazing that you are in a position to mete out justice. Sure, I'll agree, any man who has an affair deserves to lose his family. I just pray that doesn't have to happen. If it does, she has every right under the law (both God's and ours). As a Christian, I think I can be more productive pointing out my own shortcomings, rather than actually getting emotionally involved in delivering justice to Tiger Woods.

[notofworks]

You get to go first! You can him him hard!! :D


Well, I was going to and then this guy said, "Let him that is without........." so I stopped.

[n david]

What do you deserve?

Are you claiming these 10 women as a fact? Judge, jury and executionary aren't you.

Amazing that you are in a position to mete out justice. Sure, I'll agree, any man who has an affair deserves to lose his family. I just pray that doesn't have to happen. If it does, she has every right under the law (both God's and ours). As a Christian, I think I can be more productive pointing out my own shortcomings, rather than actually getting emotionally involved in delivering justice to Tiger Woods.
I'll bow out of the discussion with this ... until you've personally had to live and deal with the aftermath of infidelity, you can talk with a more-righteous-than-you attitude ... but it means absolutely nothing.

I don't claim the 10 as fact. Were anyone to ask, I'd submit that a few, if not several of them, are probably lying as a sick way to get attention and their "15 minutes of fame."

I'm not meting out justice. I'm just giving my opinion. You gave yours, I'm giving mine. You don't like it, fine. But don't try to get all righteous and holier than thou with me because my opinion is different than yours. You've lived your life, I've lived mine and because of that, we've arrived at different opinions.

Good day. :thumbsup

[notofworks]

Have you experienced or had to live with the aftermath of an affair?

In regards to marriage, he deserves losing his wife and $300 million. He made the choice every time, and who knows how many times for how long with each of the 10.

In regards to business, he deserves to lose his sponsorships and money as role model for these companies.

In regards to personal and spiritual matters, should he seek help and is truely repentant, he's deserving of the grace and mercy of God.


1) It doesn't matter what I've experienced. We've all experienced sin;
2) Yes, he deserves to lose everything. You and I deserve a lot of things that we won't be receiving through the grace of God.

[Jeffrey]

I'll bow out of the discussion with this ... until you've personally had to live and deal with the aftermath of infidelity, you can talk with a more-righteous-than-you attitude ... but it means absolutely nothing.

I don't claim the 10 as fact. Were anyone to ask, I'd submit that a few, if not several of them, are probably lying as a sick way to get attention and their "15 minutes of fame."

I'm not meting out justice. I'm just giving my opinion. You gave yours, I'm giving mine. You don't like it, fine. But don't try to get all righteous and holier than thou with me because my opinion is different than yours. You've lived your life, I've lived mine and because of that, we've arrived at different opinions.

Good day. :thumbsup

Apparently your still seeing the world through this hurt.

Please make no assumptions that my life has not been affected by infidelity. Quite the opposite. This wasn't a matter of opinion, as if "tiger is right or wrong" but a gauge of the venom you had toward him to "make sure he gets what he deserves." Yes, at the end of the day, it's just my opinion weighted against yours. I'd say I have stronger support in this situation than my opinion, but you'd accuse me of being "righteous."

I'm no more righteous than you, and that's probably why I'm slow to throw stones at Tiger. What he did was absolutely wrong. Now let's get out of his glass house, and install some mirrors on the walls of our own home.

[notofworks]

Apparently your still seeing the world through this hurt.

Please make no assumptions that my life has not been affected by infidelity. Quite the opposite. This wasn't a matter of opinion, as if "tiger is right or wrong" but a gauge of the venom you had toward him to "make sure he gets what he deserves." Yes, at the end of the day, it's just my opinion weighted against yours. I'd say I have stronger support in this situation than my opinion, but you'd accuse me of being "righteous."

I'm no more righteous than you, and that's probably why I'm slow to throw stones at Tiger. What he did was absolutely wrong. Now let's get out of his glass house, and install some mirrors on the walls of our own home.

My dear Jeffrey, I have fought with you more times than I can count, but I just stood up in my office and gave you a standing ovation. I will be quoting you on that last sentence this coming Sunday. Wow.

[Dedicated Mind]

gatorade drops tiger.

[notofworks]

gatorade drops tiger.


Not true according to TMZ. The production line featuring Tiger has been stopped but, supposedly, was scheduled months ago and he's still under contract to Gatorade.

[oletime]

gatorade drops tiger.

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

[notofworks]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!



NO WAY!!!! You DID NOT just say that. Are you in the KKK or are you just trying to be silly and make people mad. This can't be a serious post. Can't be.

[Praxeas]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!
That is disgusting.

[oletime]

That is disgusting.

what part of it prax?

[notofworks]

what part of it prax?

I'm not Prax, but........THE WHOLE THING!!!!!! Are you a grand imperial wizard or what? You can't be serious with this. You're just trying to get people worked up. Aren't you? Please tell us you're joking.

[Cindy]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

Good grief, are you serious?

[Cindy]

I'm not Prax, but........THE WHOLE THING!!!!!! Are you a grand imperial wizard or what? You can't be serious with this. You're just trying to get people worked up. Aren't you? Please tell us you're joking.

Sad and pitiful, isn't it?

[dizzyde]

Sad and pitiful, isn't it?

Well, I reported it, I think it is.

[notofworks]

Sad and pitiful, isn't it?


If he's serious with this, I just woke up and it's 1952.

[RevDWW]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

This post makes you appear to be a moron at best and a racist at worst. :foottap

[Cindy]

If he's serious with this, I just woke up and it's 1952.

It hurts my heart to read words like that.

[notofworks]

This post makes you appear to be a moron at best and a racist at worst. :foottap

I was thinking racist at best.

[notofworks]

It hurts my heart to read words like that.

I'm just holding out hope that he's trying to be funny. But I'll tell you what, even if he's trying to be funny, it's not funny. I've seen "oletime" say some goofy stuff about standards and such, but this is just WAY out of bounds.

[soldoutochrist]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

Ignoring the blatant racism in the beginning, what are you even trying to convey here? It doesn't make sense.

[MrsMcD]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

Sad...

[Monterrey]

Interesting to say the least!

Always something to make the night interesting.

[tstew]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

I am almost speechless. It's not worth me breaking this down line-by-line so I'll just do one and stop.

Gatorade and other sponsors don't have enough black superstars? Really? I think the real question is do they have any white superstars they use?

I don't see any outlets (ESPN included) "trading softly" on this story either. If anything they are all treading too loudly and often.

[oletime]

knew i could move this along a little, tempted to leave it on over night but jd would be having a heart attack by then :gotcha! ps the edwards quote was accurate and appropiate only becaus ehe was known philanderer among other things .

[ILG]

Guess I thought this was about affairs not race.:ohplease

[notofworks]

knew i could move this along a little, tempted to leave it on over night but jd would be having a heart attack by then :gotcha! ps the edwards quote was accurate and appropiate only becaus ehe was known philanderer among other things .


This doesn't really make any sense which is a considerable improvement over your posts which did make sense.

[RandyWayne]

Wonder what I could make if I claimed an affair with Tiger?

That reminds me of Jay Leno joking about Ann Nicole Smith several years ago concerning her short marriage to her billionaire, 89 year old, husband; "For that amount of money "I" would have married him! I would just lay awake every night thinking 'It will be over soon... It will be over soon....'!".

[Arphaxad]

I disagree. Most actors lives are up for scrutiny by the tabloid press and it does affect my choice in entertainment. I personally would not watch a Linsey Lohan movie, Ellen Degeneres, Rosie Odonell or other gay entertainers. I used to be an Adam Lambert fan but after his performance at the awards show, I'm through with him.

Personal lives do matter in our choice of entertainment.

Lindsey Lohan is gay? tell me it's not so:sad:sad:sad

:doggyrun

[MissBrattified]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

:jaw

[Sam]

I'm surprised that no one on AFF has mentioned Tiger Woods. I thought it was none of my business but the news keeps avalanching in a negative direction. Tiger is up to 10 mistresses. ...



10 mistresses?
might put him in the category of King David but nowhere near Solomon.

[Pressing-On]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!
What a stupid post! What did you think a man of any color would do? Find the ugliest girl on the block?! "Yep, I like her - she's real ugly! Just my type!"

Good grief, how stupid!!!

[*AQuietPlace*]

What a stupid post! What did you think a man of any color would do? Find the ugliest girl on the block?! "Yep, I like her - she's real ugly! Just my type!"

Good grief, how stupid!!!
Lol.

[MissBrattified]

What a stupid post! What did you think a man of any color would do? Find the ugliest girl on the block?! "Yep, I like her - she's real ugly! Just my type!"

Good grief, how stupid!!!

Ditto. :foottap

[OnTheFritz]

Gimme that oletime religion, gimme that oletime religion.....

[Cindy]

What a stupid post! What did you think a man of any color would do? Find the ugliest girl on the block?! "Yep, I like her - she's real ugly! Just my type!"

Good grief, how stupid!!!

Thank you!

[NewWine]

I disagree. Most actors lives are up for scrutiny by the tabloid press and it does affect my choice in entertainment. I personally would not watch a Linsey Lohan movie, Ellen Degeneres, Rosie Odonell or other gay entertainers. I used to be an Adam Lambert fan but after his performance at the awards show, I'm through with him.

Personal lives do matter in our choice of entertainment.


:confused:Ummm Adam Lambert was a homosexual before American Idol and the music awards. So how then can you make the proceeding comment "I personally would not watch ....... or other gay entertainers"? Clearly you have no problem with homosexual entertainers, according to your statement. If you did why did it take a vulgar moves for you to tune him out?

As for T. Woods, one would think that he would be concerned with STD's (whether he slept with 1 or 10 women). I hope he is able to mend things with his family. I think people have to ask themselves the question if they liked T. Woods because of his athletic abilities or his personal life. Because in all honesty, those who say it was because of his personal life, are just fooling themselves. They clearly had no clue about his personal life.

[NewWine]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

Not sure whether or not you proclaim to be a child of God, but clearly your statement is not that becoming of a child of God. Don't speak for an entire ethnicity of people and paint them as racist and respecters of persons. Your statement has been said in reverse by those (not on this forum) that proclaim White females prey on Black athletes. Both ideologies are equally offensive. You clearly are in need of deliverance from some extremely warped ideologies. You later state that you said this to move the thread along. The only thing that you have moved along is that you have shown the users of AFF that you are spiritually deficient.

[Jeffrey]

AL be a homosexual and AL bringing his homosexuality in promiscuous demonstration on the stage are two different things.

[oletime]

See post 70 !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Chillax folks!!!!!!

[drummerboy_dave]

I'm really priviledged to be on the Woods Family Christmas card list. Here is this years selection.

http://sn118w.snt118.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=f0561dfa-e01c-11de-98e0-002264c19806&Aux=44|0|8CC4240E0AC5D90||


........Nope, just got it in email.

:gotcha

[SOUNWORTHY]

Wonder what I could make if I claimed an affair with Tiger?


Find yourself a good lawyer and go for it!!
:ursofunny

[rgcraig]

See post 70 !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Chillax folks!!!!!!

No one can understand your post #70 - it doesn't make a lick of sense. You left up what you said and you MEANT what you said - you weren't saying it just to move things along.

There's not an infraction for saying stupid things - too bad because you deserve a BIG ONE.

I think we'd all like to see an apology for such a racist comment. No need to chillax here.

[Pro31:28]

Find yourself a good lawyer and go for it!!
:ursofunny

I think he already knows one...

[freeatlast]

I hope Oletime does'nt come on here now saying "I was just joking around"

because then I will think he s not only racially ignorant but a "big fibber" too.

[Pressing-On]

I hope Oletime does'nt come on here now saying "I was just joking around"

because then I will think he s not only racially ignorant but a "big fibber" too.

:thumbsup

[ILG]

I refused to watch Ellen Degeneres until I had to once at work. She is very hilarious! She may be gay but she is a very funny comedienne!

[Ferd]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

come here....


no really come a little closer....


SO I CAN SLAP YOUR HEAD!

great googly moogly what posesses a person to think like this?

[Baron1710]

Speaking of racism and ESPN, did anyone watch the show on ESPN about how white guys with equal or better stats than their black counterparts are not being drafted into the NBA?

I just got the highlights from my son, I haven't seen the show. I think it was Outside The Lines.

Anyway my only point is that ESPN is not afraid to cover the stories.

Oh and a great big DiNozzo head slap for Oletime. :smack

Lets just make it two. :smack

[notofworks]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!


The supposed "explanation post" (#70) made no sense, but this post easily has to be the worst post in the history of AFF, and just maybe, the internet.

But in all the tabloid coverage and the public's incurable appetite for more details, and among all the jokes, we all seem to forget to very important people in all this.....two people named "Sam" and "Charlie." Those are the two children. The more TMZ and OMG and others, go after more names and mistresses, the more his reputation goes in the tank, not only with the public, but with his children someday that will need to love and respect their dad.

I know, I know.....he "did the crime". We all know that. But do his children deserve for him to have....as Jeffrey called it.....a mulligan called "grace"? I absolutely believe so.

Is his reputation with the public beyond repair? I doubt it. As soon as he starts winning golf tournaments again, Gatorade, AmEx, Nike, Gillette, etc., will all love him again. And so will we...the majority, anyway. But when Sam and Charlie someday learn how to use the internet, will his reputation be salvageable? I think that's a question worth pondering.

[Ferd]

I just want to say that we should lay off Tiger Woods....

But for the grace of God we would all be flying porn stars and cocktail waitresses around the world so we could do the nasty with them.....

[OnTheFritz]

I just want to say that we should lay off Tiger Woods....

But for the grace of God we would all be flying porn stars and cocktail waitresses around the world so we could do the nasty with them.....

Hahahahaha......... :lol

[n david]

I just want to say that we should lay off Tiger Woods....

But for the grace of God we would all be flying porn stars and cocktail waitresses around the world so we could do the nasty with them.....
Speak for yourself ... couldn't be paid to do the nasty with them. Who knows what junk Tiger has from being with them. His wife needs to get checked out quickly - and get this kids checked out as well.

Tiger will end up getting HIV/AIDS like Magic Johnson - a great sports player who was great in the game, but incredibly stupid off the court.

[rgcraig]

Speak for yourself ... couldn't be paid to do the nasty with them. Who knows what junk Tiger has from being with them. His wife needs to get checked out quickly - and get this kids checked out as well.

Tiger will end up getting HIV/AIDS like Magic Johnson - a great sports player who was great in the game, but incredibly stupid off the court.

Hopefully, he was smart enough to wear a raincoat each time - he probably didn't want little Tiger's running around all over anyway.

[tstew]

Hopefully, he was smart enough to wear a raincoat each time - he probably didn't want little Tiger's running around all over anyway.

I would hope so, but not bet on it. Much of what he did here was frankly stupid and wreckless enough that I'm not sure he is mature enough to be so thoughtful 100% of the time. He has not protected himself in any way here at all (text messages, possibly pictures, voicemails, trips around the world). He left himself so vulnerable in these cases that I would not bet on any other sort of protection.

[notofworks]

I just want to say that we should lay off Tiger Woods....

But for the grace of God we would all be flying porn stars and cocktail waitresses around the world so we could do the nasty with them.....


Amen, Ferd. We're best buddies again.

[notofworks]

Speak for yourself ... couldn't be paid to do the nasty with them. Who knows what junk Tiger has from being with them. His wife needs to get checked out quickly - and get this kids checked out as well.

Tiger will end up getting HIV/AIDS like Magic Johnson - a great sports player who was great in the game, but incredibly stupid off the court.


You would never?? Wow, statements like that are scary.

[tstew]

Speaking of racism and ESPN, did anyone watch the show on ESPN about how white guys with equal or better stats than their black counterparts are not being drafted into the NBA?

I just got the highlights from my son, I haven't seen the show. I think it was Outside The Lines.

Anyway my only point is that ESPN is not afraid to cover the stories.

Oh and a great big DiNozzo head slap for Oletime. :smack

Lets just make it two. :smack

I'll have to check that out. I always thought it would be the opposite. Frankly, I thought that the NBA would be salivating at the thought of a great white superstar (like Larry Bird). Realistically, I think it would be in their best interest.

[MissBrattified]

See post 70 !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! Chillax folks!!!!!!

Really? :blink

I read your post. It was blatantly racist, and you have yet to apologize for it or even retract it. Move the thread along some other way.

Please don't try to brush off your statements as trying to stimulate conversation. Making racist comments doesn't qualify as "stimulating."

[Ferd]

I'll have to check that out. I always thought it would be the opposite. Frankly, I thought that the NBA would be salivating at the thought of a great white superstar (like Larry Bird). Realistically, I think it would be in their best interest.

Nobody cares what race the superstars are. I suspect these are the marginal players...

[Sam]

Find yourself a good lawyer and go for it!!
:ursofunny

Don't dryclean the blue dress

[MissBrattified]

No one can understand your post #70 - it doesn't make a lick of sense. You left up what you said and you MEANT what you said - you weren't saying it just to move things along.

There's not an infraction for saying stupid things - too bad because you deserve a BIG ONE.

I started to report his post last night, and then I thought...for what? Not really breaking any forum rules. Just revealing a little too much of himself. :foottap

[n david]

You would never?? Wow, statements like that are scary.
My statement that I wouldn't sleep around with porn stars or cocktail waitresses scares you? Are you serious? I'm left to assume, then, that you would. Now that's scary. Doesn't surprise me though.

Sad, but I don't apologize or feel bad that my refusal to sleep with skanky, possibly disease infested women, scares you. I like my health and body too much to ruin it for temporary satisfaction with those kind of women.

[OnTheFritz]

Hopefully, he was smart enough to wear a raincoat each time - he probably didn't want little Tiger's running around all over anyway.

Cubs? :D

[MissBrattified]

Hopefully, he was smart enough to wear a raincoat each time - he probably didn't want little Tiger's running around all over anyway.

I obviously need to go have a cup of coffee. It took me 3x reading this post to figure out what you meant by "raincoat." :coffee2

Ohhhhh...that's probably why I did so bad on ILG's "Interesting Test!" That's it! I haven't had coffee today! :secretservice

[rgcraig]

I started to report his post last night, and then I thought...for what? Not really breaking any forum rules. Just revealing a little too much of himself. :foottap

Well, actually there is a rule that applies.

We do not allow any rebuking, hatefulness, name calling, or verbal attacks by any person or group of people, toward any person or group of people. Content that is unseemly, using bad language, or any form of insinuating bad language (i.e. one letter and ****), or offensive slang, is not permitted.

[rgcraig]

I obviously need to go have a cup of coffee. It took me 3x reading this post to figure out what you meant by "raincoat." :coffee2

Ohhhhh...that's probably why I did so bad on ILG's "Interesting Test!" That's it! I haven't had coffee today! :secretservice

Well, the good news is that you finally DID figure it out!

[n david]

The eeeeeevil FoxNews.com is reporting Woods and wife will be leaving the country soon, possibly moving to a private island near Sweden.

The article also states that the couple and wife's family want to keep the couple together ... "for the sake of the kids."

Everyone together ..... "Awwwwww." Let's not worry about honoring the vows we took. Who cares about being faithful to one lady who's given him two children and, that we know of, has been faithful and supportive while he goes around the world playing golf and sleeping around.

Let's do it for the kids.

I know some will likely protest my next statement, don't bother ...

Woods' wife knows what he is and that he can't be trusted. If she chooses to stay with him and not get divorced, so be it. She's either incredibly forgiving and saintly ... or just incredibly stupid and naive. Either way, she knows. And when, in the future, he goes out and sleeps with more women ... she has no reason to cry and expect sympathy because she knows.

Just as if Rhianna would have gone back to Chris Brown after he used her for a boxing bag; and just as every other women who goes back to either unfaithful or abusive spouses ... anything that happens after they go back is on them. They know what they're doing, who they're getting involved with. They have the power to change and leave the situation, but don't.

I have a hard time giving sympathy a second time around...because they knew.

So best of luck to Woods and Elin, I honestly do hope it works out with them; that he does make a change and becomes a faithful husband and good father; that she's able to forgive and trust him again; and that they have a long-lasting marriage.

Source (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/09/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-leaving-country/?test=faces)

[rgcraig]

It's been said that she purchases a home in Sweden a few months back, so I think she's known for a bit.

She might be staying married to him for legal/pre-nup reasons - has nothing to do with saintly or being stupid.

[notofworks]

My statement that I wouldn't sleep around with porn stars or cocktail waitresses scares you? Are you serious? I'm left to assume, then, that you would. Now that's scary. Doesn't surprise me though.

Sad, but I don't apologize or feel bad that my refusal to sleep with skanky, possibly disease infested women, scares you. I like my health and body too much to ruin it for temporary satisfaction with those kind of women.


It is amazing how often the pure become defiled and the defiled become pure. The prodigal son was awful but in the end, he was celebrated and fussed over, while the older son, who had been perfectly behaved, was condemned.

The Pharisee and the sinner stood together. The Pharisee was pure, the sinner was sinful. But it was the sinner who went away justified.

In the end, if Tiger comes clean and straightens up his act, it could very well be the same again....he will be pure and the stone-throwers will be defiled.

How one could ever say, "That could never be me" is beyond me. Yes, if I were in Tiger's shoes, maybe I would "sleep around with skanky"......however it was that you described it. And yes, for anyone to say, "I would never" is scary to me.

[allstate1]

What is blowing my mind is how anyone can marry an imperfect human and expect them to remain perfect for years after the so called sacred vows are taken!! What if Christ were to forsake us in the same fashion? None of us would stand a chance!!!

[n david]

How one could ever say, "That could never be me" is beyond me. Yes, if I were in Tiger's shoes, maybe I would "sleep around with skanky"......however it was that you described it. And yes, for anyone to say, "I would never" is scary to me.
:crazy

I wouldn't say that I'd never have an affair, or get involved in a bad situation. I hope that would never happen, but I wouldn't say it can't happen to me.

However, I will say that there's not a chance I would allow myself to have sex with a porn star or other sleazy, easy women who sleep around. Not on the coldest day in hell, my friend.

As I said before, I like my health and body too much to abuse it for temporary satisfaction.

[rgcraig]

:crazy

I wouldn't say that I'd never have an affair, or get involved in a bad situation. I hope that would never happen, but I wouldn't say it can't happen to me.

However, I will say that there's not a chance I would allow myself to have sex with a porn star or other sleazy, easy women who sleep around. Not on the coldest day in hell, my friend.

As I said before, I like my health and body too much to abuse it for temporary satisfaction.

It doesn't take a porn star to get a disease - - it could be a beautiful women sitting in church right a few rows ahead of you. Whoever she's slept with could have given something to her. If you like your health and body too much to abuse, then stay monogamous period.

[n david]

It doesn't take a porn star to get a disease - - it could be a beautiful women sitting in church right a few rows ahead of you. Whoever she's slept with could have given something to her. If you like your health and body too much to abuse, then stay monogamous period.
This is true.

[MissBrattified]

What is blowing my mind is how anyone can marry an imperfect human and expect them to remain perfect for years after the so called sacred vows are taken!! What if Christ were to forsake us in the same fashion? None of us would stand a chance!!!

Uhhhh...I think expecting your spouse to remain 100% faithful is a reasonable expectation. The way your post is worded, it sounds like you don't think anyone can remain faithful to their marriage!

[dizzyde]

Hopefully, he was smart enough to wear a raincoat each time - he probably didn't want little Tiger's running around all over anyway.

I have read several reports that say in at least one of the cases he allegedly didn't.

[rgcraig]

I have read several reports that say in at least one of the cases he allegedly didn't.
Honestly - I think that's TMI to be floating around out there.......

I don't feel sorry for him, but I have NO RESPECT for these women either. Just to get 15 minutes of fame to tell all is just disgusting!

[dizzyde]

The eeeeeevil FoxNews.com is reporting Woods and wife will be leaving the country soon, possibly moving to a private island near Sweden.


As far as that goes, at least they will living somewhere breath-takingly beautiful!!! :heart

[dizzyde]

Honestly - I think that's TMI to be floating around out there.......

I don't feel sorry for him, but I have NO RESPECT for these women either. Just to get 15 minutes of fame to tell all is just disgusting!

I thought the same thing, sad thing is that it came from a fairly reputable news source... :sad

[allstate1]

Uhhhh...I think expecting your spouse to remain 100% faithful is a reasonable expectation. The way your post is worded, it sounds like you don't think anyone can remain faithful to their marriage!

Yes I expected it from my spouse!! But when she wasnt I didnt throw her away like an old shoe!! When she wasnt again and yet again I still did not throw her away! I came to the realization along with her that she had some severe issues and was later diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. If I had given up on her it would have torn an otherwise very good family apart! My point is we are the bride of Christ and we repeatedly fail to remain perfectly without sin. We are to forgive 7 times 70 which I was taught was infinetly. But even if it is 490 times would you be willing to forgive your spouse for that many indescretions??!!!

[tstew]

Uhhhh...I think expecting your spouse to remain 100% faithful is a reasonable expectation. The way your post is worded, it sounds like you don't think anyone can remain faithful to their marriage!

Or at least 10% faithful...Eldridge...:foottap

[tstew]

On a related note, I would like to thank Rush Limbaugh for thinking and speaking for me:

If you believe Rush Limbaugh, African-Americans are suffering from a collective malaise brought on by anger at President Obama's economic policies -- and the white women of the Tiger Woods scandal.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/09/2009-12-09_rush_limbaugh_tiger_woods_choice_of_females_con tributing_to_poor_black_frame_of_.html#ixzz0ZDYKwe SL




Incredible. Simply incredible.

[dizzyde]

On a related note, I would like to thank Rush Limbaugh for thinking and speaking for me:

If you believe Rush Limbaugh, African-Americans are suffering from a collective malaise brought on by anger at President Obama's economic policies -- and the white women of the Tiger Woods scandal.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/09/2009-12-09_rush_limbaugh_tiger_woods_choice_of_females_con tributing_to_poor_black_frame_of_.html#ixzz0ZDYKwe SL




Incredible. Simply incredible.

The fact that anyone still listens to this man makes me very sad. :sad

[Pressing-On]

On a related note, I would like to thank Rush Limbaugh for thinking and speaking for me:

If you believe Rush Limbaugh, African-Americans are suffering from a collective malaise brought on by anger at President Obama's economic policies -- and the white women of the Tiger Woods scandal.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/09/2009-12-09_rush_limbaugh_tiger_woods_choice_of_females_con tributing_to_poor_black_frame_of_.html#ixzz0ZDYKwe SL




Incredible. Simply incredible.

Stew,
What about the comments that Black American radio host, Tom Joyner has so say about Tiger, which is also cited in the linked article you posted.

On the nationally syndicated Tom Joyner radio show, Woods was the butt of jokes all week.

"Thankfully, Tiger, you didn't marry a black woman. Because if a sister caught you running around with a bunch of white hoochie-mamas," one parody suggests in song, she would have castrated him.

"The Grinch's Theme Song" didn't stop there: "The question everyone in America wants to ask you is, how many white women does one brother waaant?"

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/06/2009-12-06_tiger_woods_alienates_black_community_with_whit e_lovers.html#ixzz0ZDbDG5MB

Just to be fair. :D

I told you that Rush plays off of other people's remarks, Stew. And then, he is taken to task for it. :naughty

[tstew]

The fact that anyone still listens to this man makes me very sad. :sad

You better hope PO doesn't see this :)

[Pressing-On]

You better hope PO doesn't see this :)

:D

[dizzyde]

You better hope PO doesn't see this :)

Sorry, just call like I see it... I can't stomach him! PO can handle it, she is secure in her opinions!! lol!

[dizzyde]

:D

:friend still? :ursofunny

[tstew]

Stew,
What about the comments that Black American radio host, Tom Joyner has so say about Tiger, which is also cited in the linked article you posted.


Just to be fair. :D

I told you that Rush plays off of other people's remarks, Stew. And then, he is taken to task for it. :naughty

The problem is that Tom Joyner's is a comedy show, co-hosted by comedians and unfortunately, Rush is quite serious...as are the people who listen to him when he says these things.

[tstew]

Sorry, just call like I see it... I can't stomach him! PO can handle it, she is secure in her opinions!! lol!

PO dreamt she was his wife

[Pressing-On]

Sorry, just call like I see it... I can't stomach him! PO can handle it, she is secure in her opinions!! lol!

I don't hardly ever listen to Rush or Hannity. The only thing I have to say is that if Stew wants the National Enquirer and TMZ to have a political arm, then it can't be any different than having Rush and Hannity spout out things they are ALSO NOT afraid to report on.

Just sayin'........:D

[dizzyde]

PO dreamt she was his wife

:uhoh :shocked: :runhills

Wouldn't you call that a nightmare???? :largehalo

[tstew]

The problem is that Tom Joyner's is a comedy show, co-hosted by comedians and unfortunately, Rush is quite serious...as are the people who listen to him when he says these things.

The first line of what you quoted says a lot.

"On the nationally syndicated Tom Joyner radio show, Woods was the butt of jokes all week."

Now, if you will admit that Limbaugh should be taken as a comedy act, I will concede :)

[Pressing-On]

PO dreamt she was his wife

I know where you live! :thwak You're just jealous because I would then have more money than you and access to the radio!!!!!! :bliss

[Pressing-On]

:uhoh :shocked: :runhills

Wouldn't you call that a nightmare???? :largehalo

He was very nice to me in the dream, although, he was sitting at his computer. I just knew in the dream that he was nice. Was that, like, prophetic? :toofunny

[tstew]

I don't hardly ever listen to Rush or Hannity. The only thing I have to say is that if Stew wants the National Enquirer and TMZ to have a political arm, then it can't be any different than having Rush and Hannity spout out things they are ALSO NOT afraid to report on.

Just sayin'........:D

I would also like what they are not afraid to report on to be true. :) That was my point. TMZ has been batting a pretty good percentage recently when it comes to breaking real-life stories.

[Pressing-On]

The problem is that Tom Joyner's is a comedy show, co-hosted by comedians and unfortunately, Rush is quite serious...as are the people who listen to him when he says these things.

He meant his little joke, Brother. He meant it. :thumbsup

[tstew]

I know where you live! :thwak You're just jealous because I would then have more money than you and access to the radio!!!!!! :bliss

Of course that is already the case, so big deal. :ursofunny

[Pressing-On]

I would also like what they are not afraid to report on to be true. :) That was my point. TMZ has been batting a pretty good percentage recently when it comes to breaking real-life stories.
Well, Rush and Hannity do the same thing, so what is the difference?

You still haven't noticed that Rush plays off of other people's comments. You need to pay attention to that. He just plays it up real big and it's a shocker. That's how he makes his money. :D

[Pressing-On]

Of course that is already the case, so big deal. :ursofunny

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

[n david]

... "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."
A black lady I work with was talking about this and asked, "what is it with rich brothers who marry or cheat with white women." She went on to say that she's upset and angry cause she feels black women are overlooked by rich black men.

I told her it's only because they're afraid and can't handle a proud, intelligent, strong woman - so they look for a bimbo they can con. She liked it. :lol

[Pressing-On]

A black lady I work with was talking about this and asked, "what is it with rich brothers who marry or cheat with white women." She went on to say that she's upset and angry cause she feels black women are overlooked by rich black men.

I told her it's only because they're afraid and can't handle a proud, intelligent, strong woman - so they look for a bimbo they can con. She liked it. :lol

:ursofunny

So, I guess Rush's comments are not that far off, huh? Not taking up for him across the board, but on this issue, he is voicing what he is hearing and what you have heard.

[rgcraig]

A black lady I work with was talking about this and asked, "what is it with rich brothers who marry or cheat with white women." She went on to say that she's upset and angry cause she feels black women are overlooked by rich black men.

I told her it's only because they're afraid and can't handle a proud, intelligent, strong woman - so they look for a bimbo they can con. She liked it. :lol

"This makes Woods himself one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch.[14] He refers to his ethnic make-up as “Cablinasian” (a syllabic abbreviation he coined from Caucasian, Black, (American) Indian, and Asian).[15]"

Perhaps he doesn't feel that he has to be with only black women because he's only one-quarter black. It is interesting that even that one-quarter labels him as black.

[tstew]

Well, Rush and Hannity do the same thing, so what is the difference?

You still haven't noticed that Rush plays off of other people's comments. You need to pay attention to that. He just plays it up real big and it's a shocker. That's how he makes his money. :D

Seriously, I did not see anything that would suggest that Limbaugh was responding in anyway to a joke on a comedy morning show. Either way, to say what he said about the "black frame of mind" is offensive to me personally, and not the frame of mind of the many black people that I know. I guess, however, since there is apparently one frame of mind for all of us, we just need to get in line :)

[tstew]

"This makes Woods himself one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch.[14] He refers to his ethnic make-up as “Cablinasian” (a syllabic abbreviation he coined from Caucasian, Black, (American) Indian, and Asian).[15]"

Perhaps he doesn't feel that he has to be with only black women because he's only one-quarter black. It is interesting that even that one-quarter labels him as black.

Renda, you bring up another interesting point that I was going to stay away from. People were acting confused as to why Obama was considered black and Obama himself saw himself as black. I think a situation like Tiger where he tried to say he did not consider himself black shows that we consider people black when their mixed no matter what they claim.

[Pressing-On]

Seriously, I did not see anything that would suggest that Limbaugh was responding in anyway to a joke on a comedy morning show. Either way, to say what he said about the "black frame of mind" is offensive to me personally, and not the frame of mind of the many black people that I know. I guess, however, since there is apparently one frame of mind for all of us, we just need to get in line :)
That's because you are not prejudice because you are a true Christian in your heart. I know a whole lot of black people that are prejudice.

My daughter had a friend, when she was in High School, and the girl had a black boyfriend. They were both going to run by his house and when my daughter got out of the car - blonde hair, blue eyes - the sisters on the front porch were NOT happy she showed up. She thought at first they were going to start a fight with her. One girl started yelling at her for no reason!

What is up with that?

Anyway, David reported a conversation which I am sure is NOT an isolated case. And I am also very sure Rush knows a lot of comments on the same lines and is reporting that. That's what I believe.

[Pressing-On]

Renda, you bring up another interesting point that I was going to stay away from. People were acting confused as to why Obama was considered black and Obama himself saw himself as black. I think a situation like Tiger where he tried to say he did not consider himself black shows that we consider people black when their mixed no matter what they claim.
I think they go, solely, on the color of the skin. He is black.

[rgcraig]

I think they go, solely, on the color of the skin. He is black.

He's no more black, than I am white.

In the summer I can get as "black" as Tiger. I'm brown/beige at best! :ursofunny

[Pressing-On]

He's no more black, than I am white.

In the summer I can get as "black" as Tiger. I'm brown/beige at best! :ursofunny

Yes he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And NO you don't!!!! :thwak

[tstew]

That's because you are not prejudice because you are a true Christian in your heart. I know a whole lot of black people that are prejudice.

My daughter had a friend, when she was in High School, and the girl had a black boyfriend. They were both going to run by his house and when my daughter got out of the car - blonde hair, blue eyes - the sisters on the front porch were NOT happy she showed up. She thought at first they were going to start a fight with her. One girl started yelling at her for no reason!

What is up with that?

Anyway, David reported a conversation which I am sure is NOT an isolated case. And I am also very sure Rush knows a lot of comments on the same lines and is reporting that. That's what I believe.

PO, I'm just saying that this among other things is ridiculous: "Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

The average black person is not truly bent out of shape about Tiger's choice of women whether Rush believes it or not. People are certainly not depressed about it. I don't see anyone's attitude being affected by it.

Truth be told, there are probably more white people who get truly bent out of shape when they see beautiful, young white women with a multi-ethnic Tiger, than black people who get truly upset at a multi-ethnic Tiger with white or other women.

[Pressing-On]

PO, I'm just saying that this among other things is ridiculous: "Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

The average black person is not truly bent out of shape about Tiger's choice of women whether Rush believes it or not. People are certainly not depressed about it. I don't see anyone's attitude being affected by it.

Truth be told, there are probably more white people who get truly bent out of shape when they see beautiful, young white women with a multi-ethnic Tiger, than black people who get truly upset at a multi-ethnic Tiger with white or other women.
I think it's equal, but I have heard and grew up with the comment - "They just want a feather in their cap". We were not allowed to date out of our race.

Anyway, my broccoli is ready, I'm cold and I'm hungry!

Laters! Good conversation. I'll come back later and determine if you are black and to find out why you had a container, with big red lips on the side, sitting on your couch in that picture you posted of your dog!! I want to know!!! :toofunny

[StillStanding]

PO, I'm just saying that this among other things is ridiculous: "Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

The average black person is not truly bent out of shape about Tiger's choice of women whether Rush believes it or not. People are certainly not depressed about it. I don't see anyone's attitude being affected by it.

Truth be told, there are probably more white people who get truly bent out of shape when they see beautiful, young white women with a multi-ethnic Tiger, than black people who get truly upset at a multi-ethnic Tiger with white or other women.
I can agree with this! :thumbsup

[tstew]

I think it's equal, but I have heard and grew up with the comment - "They just want a feather in their cap". We were not allowed to date out of our race.

Anyway, my broccoli is ready, I'm cold and I'm hungry!

Laters! Good conversation. I'll come back later and determine if you are black and to find out why you had a container, with big red lips on the side, sitting on your couch in that picture you posted of your dog!! I want to know!!! :toofunny

Now I have to look at that pic. I have no idea what you are talking about.

[tstew]

I think it's equal, but I have heard and grew up with the comment - "They just want a feather in their cap". We were not allowed to date out of our race.

Anyway, my broccoli is ready, I'm cold and I'm hungry!

Laters! Good conversation. I'll come back later and determine if you are black and to find out why you had a container, with big red lips on the side, sitting on your couch in that picture you posted of your dog!! I want to know!!! :toofunny

LOLOL Okay I just saw the pic again. I have no idea what that's about. I have, however, learned a valuable lesson about how I need to proof whatever I post here.

[Pressing-On]

LOLOL Okay I just saw the pic again. I have no idea what that's about. I have, however, learned a valuable lesson about how I need to proof whatever I post here.

:ursofunny

And I will teach you something about interior design. Your wall color (red) will highlight any accent you have on the sofa - hence - the lips stood out like a sore thumb! It's all about color! :toofunny

[Pressing-On]

I think it's equal, but I have heard and grew up with the comment - "They just want a feather in their cap". We were not allowed to date out of our race.

I want to also comment that because "race" was forbidden, the first guy in High School that I wanted to date was a sexy Mexican boy named Mario! He met me around the block and dropped me off around the block. :D Rumba, Rumba!!!!! :toofunny

[Cindy]

Well I am prejudiced and I think all those scandanavian women should leave our american athletes alone.

[tstew]

:ursofunny

And I will teach you something about interior design. Your wall color (red) will highlight any accent you have on the sofa - hence - the lips stood out like a sore thumb! It's all about color! :toofunny

For the record, that was not an accent. I have no idea what my wife was doing with that LOL

[Cindy]

I want to also comment that because "race" was forbidden, the first guy in High School that I wanted to date was a sexy Mexican boy named Mario! He met me around the block and dropped me off around the block. :D Rumba, Rumba!!!!! :toofunny

OMW, you were a hoochie.........:toofunny

[Cindy]

For the record, that was not an accent. I have no idea what my wife was doing with that LOL

yeah, right. Admit it was your idea........:toofunny

[tstew]

Well I am prejudiced and I think all those scandanavian women should leave our american athletes alone.

LOL

[Pressing-On]

For the record, that was not an accent. I have no idea what my wife was doing with that LOL
But it was on your couch and therefore an accent in the photo. Go call your wife and ask her what that is?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ursofunny

[Pressing-On]

yeah, right. Admit it was your idea........:toofunny

:ursofunny

[Pressing-On]

OMW, you were a hoochie.........:toofunny

I was trying to keep him from getting shot by my father!!!! Have a heart!!! I would have married him, if they would have let me! :heart :sad

[Cindy]

I was trying to keep him from getting shot by my father!!!! Have a heart!!! I would have married him, if they would have let me! :heart :sad

Awwwww, :sad

[allstate1]

I am not prejudiced, I dont like anybody!! LOL

[Ferd]

On a related note, I would like to thank Rush Limbaugh for thinking and speaking for me:

If you believe Rush Limbaugh, African-Americans are suffering from a collective malaise brought on by anger at President Obama's economic policies -- and the white women of the Tiger Woods scandal.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/09/2009-12-09_rush_limbaugh_tiger_woods_choice_of_females_con tributing_to_poor_black_frame_of_.html#ixzz0ZDYKwe SL


Incredible. Simply incredible.

Stew, I listened to the clip and I know it is hard to believe but what he said and what he was talking about isn’t exactly what is being reported....


He first played a clip of Jessie Jackson then he pointed to several articles about "black unemployment".

His comments were directed at the liberal elites and their attitude toward black people.

He was not suggesting that all black people have the same frame of mind.

[Truthseeker]

Truth be told, there are probably more white people who get truly bent out of shape when they see beautiful, young white women with a multi-ethnic Tiger, than black people who get truly upset at a multi-ethnic Tiger with white or other women.

Well, black men are probably less like to be upset about a black man with other women, but some black women have an under current of resentment about it.

[Cindy]

I am not prejudiced, I dont like anybody!! LOL

:lol

[tstew]

Well, black men are probably less like to be upset about a black man with other women, but some black women have an under current of resentment about it.

I agree that there are many black women who don't like to see that, but to say depressed and other strong feelings is overstating it in my opinion. When it comes to having strong aversion to it, you have quite a few on the extreme side of white America who are almost sickened by the sight of a black man with a white woman.
I'm just saying that painting this broad brush stroke as to how this is affecting "the black mind" is just as wrong as using what I said to broad brush how "the white mind" is affected by this.

[tstew]

Stew, I listened to the clip and I know it is hard to believe but what he said and what he was talking about isn’t exactly what is being reported....


He first played a clip of Jessie Jackson then he pointed to several articles about "black unemployment".

His comments were directed at the liberal elites and their attitude toward black people.

He was not suggesting that all black people have the same frame of mind.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

Ferd, I hear ya, but I think this speaks for itself...and speaks volumes.

At some point I think people are going to have to recognize that at least some of the criticism leveled at Rush when it comes to matters of race and race-baiting are warranted.

[SOUNWORTHY]

I want to also comment that because "race" was forbidden, the first guy in High School that I wanted to date was a sexy Mexican boy named Mario! He met me around the block and dropped me off around the block. :D Rumba, Rumba!!!!! :toofunny


I have one one son-in-law who is Mexican and had one who was a Texan. I prefer the Mexican!!:thumbsup

[Cindy]

I have one one son-in-law who is Mexican and had one who was a Texan. I prefer the Mexican!!:thumbsup

:ursofunny

[Pressing-On]

I have one one son-in-law who is Mexican and had one who was a Texan. I prefer the Mexican!!:thumbsup

:ursofunny

[Ferd]

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

Ferd, I hear ya, but I think this speaks for itself...and speaks volumes.

At some point I think people are going to have to recognize that at least some of the criticism leveled at Rush when it comes to matters of race and race-baiting are warranted.

All I am saying is the quote picks up in the middle of a paragraph. One that is taking shots at the liberal elites who use race as a political weapon in general and Jessie Jackson in particular.

When he says that he is projecting their view of this "black frame of mind" not his own.

[Truthseeker]

I agree that there are many black women who don't like to see that, but to say depressed and other strong feelings is overstating it in my opinion. When it comes to having strong aversion to it, you have quite a few on the extreme side of white America who are almost sickened by the sight of a black man with a white woman.
I'm just saying that painting this broad brush stroke as to how this is affecting "the black mind" is just as wrong as using what I said to broad brush how "the white mind" is affected by this.

I think alot have some level of resentment even if a small amount. Most do not get depressed or overreact over it but to some degree it's in most, IMO. I stress IMO.

Most men don't have problem with women of other races. Climax of racism is from man to man of races. Men generally find women of all cultures attractive, if attractive, that is. Even the ones vocal about not mixing races, kinda wierd. The pride of a culture/race is their women and some don't like seeing a man of another race with "their women".

My wife and I have had more problems from black men then whites. But she is a knock out, so it makes a difference. :thumbsup When we were discriminated against for housing it wasn't from a white person.

But this goes back to not using the broad brush as you stated. No longer can we say whites do such and such or blacks do such and such. Some maybe.

[tstew]

All I am saying is the quote picks up in the middle of a paragraph. One that is taking shots at the liberal elites who use race as a political weapon in general and Jessie Jackson in particular.

When he says that he is projecting their view of this "black frame of mind" not his own.

I'm just saying that in my opinion, he and Jesse are too sides of the same coin. They both at times use race, fear related to race, and ridiculous generalities as tools to tap into the fear, resentment, or indignation of their audiences.

I'll read the transcript in its entirety and see if that would make me read these paragraphs any differently.

[Cindy]

I'm just saying that in my opinion, he and Jesse are too sides of the same coin. They both at times use race, fear related to race, and ridiculous generalities as tools to tap into the fear, resentment, or indignation of their audiences.

I'll read the transcript in its entirety and see if that would make me read these paragraphs any differently.

This is true, stew. And it makes some people hesitate to state opinions for fear of offending someone. But then there are those that like to offend, including all races.

[oletime]

and thank you everyone for telling me you know my mind, yall are so clueless, nope your right, i wont retract it, because i know how i felt when i wrote it . cheerio !!

[rgcraig]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

That's disgusting

what part of it prax?

knew i could move this along a little, tempted to leave it on over night but jd would be having a heart attack by then :gotcha! ps the edwards quote was accurate and appropiate only becaus ehe was known philanderer among other things .

and thank you everyone for telling me you know my mind, yall are so clueless, nope your right, i wont retract it, because i know how i felt when i wrote it . cheerio !!

Whatever.

[RevDWW]

They are saying the number of women is up to 11.......how many golf clubs are in a golf bag? :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

[Cindy]

They are saying the number of women is up to 11.......how many golf clubs are in a golf bag? :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

Apparently he ain't no Wilt Chamberlain........:toofunny

[tstew]

Stew, I listened to the clip and I know it is hard to believe but what he said and what he was talking about isn’t exactly what is being reported....


He first played a clip of Jessie Jackson then he pointed to several articles about "black unemployment".

His comments were directed at the liberal elites and their attitude toward black people.

He was not suggesting that all black people have the same frame of mind.

Ferd, I was going to send you a PM to be sure that you saw it, but I figured that I better say this publicly. I did finally get a chance to go back and listen to the audio and frankly I am a bit upset. I hate being manipulated and deceived by propaganda of any sort. In this case it is very clear that Limbaugh's text was taken and presented out of context. I usually try to do my due diligence before I repeat stuff and when I confirmed that he actually said these words, I ran with it.

In listening to the complete context it is obvious to anyone who is trying to be honest that he was attempting to speak for the Jesse Jackson's of the world (who I still insist do not speak for the vast majority of black people but that's a different story).

The only issue I would have with this is that it seemed that adding the Tiger stuff was still a bit overboard. It seemed that that was just him rifting at that point, but the rest of the quote was clearly presented in the wrong context.


For the record, I still don't care for him much :)

[Pressing-On]

Ferd, I was going to send you a PM to be sure that you saw it, but I figured that I better say this publicly. I did finally get a chance to go back and listen to the audio and frankly I am a bit upset. I hate being manipulated and deceived by propaganda of any sort. In this case it is very clear that Limbaugh's text was taken and presented out of context. I usually try to do my due diligence before I repeat stuff and when I confirmed that he actually said these words, I ran with it.

In listening to the complete context it is obvious to anyone who is trying to be honest that he was attempting to speak for the Jesse Jackson's of the world (who I still insist do not speak for the vast majority of black people but that's a different story).

The only issue I would have with this is that it seemed that adding the Tiger stuff was still a bit overboard. It seemed that that was just him rifting at that point, but the rest of the quote was clearly presented in the wrong context.


For the record, I still don't care for him much :)

You are always honest, Stew! I respect you to the utmost! :thumbsup

[tstew]

You are always honest, Stew! I respect you to the utmost! :thumbsup

It was soooooo hard LOL.
I almost punked out and sent Ferd a PM :)

[Pressing-On]

It was soooooo hard LOL.
I almost punked out and sent Ferd a PM :)
LOL! I like you, Stew! You are a great Christian man!!! I'm proud to be in the Kingdom of God serving with you! :thumbsup

[John Atkinson]

Tiger Wood's branded Gatorade was marked "Discontinued" at the local stop and shop and marked down to 80 cents a jug....bought a dozen of them...:D

[Ferd]

Ferd, I was going to send you a PM to be sure that you saw it, but I figured that I better say this publicly. I did finally get a chance to go back and listen to the audio and frankly I am a bit upset. I hate being manipulated and deceived by propaganda of any sort. In this case it is very clear that Limbaugh's text was taken and presented out of context. I usually try to do my due diligence before I repeat stuff and when I confirmed that he actually said these words, I ran with it.

In listening to the complete context it is obvious to anyone who is trying to be honest that he was attempting to speak for the Jesse Jackson's of the world (who I still insist do not speak for the vast majority of black people but that's a different story).

The only issue I would have with this is that it seemed that adding the Tiger stuff was still a bit overboard. It seemed that that was just him rifting at that point, but the rest of the quote was clearly presented in the wrong context.


For the record, I still don't care for him much :)

I am glad you found the full context. LOL! be blessed my friend!

[Monterrey]

Tiger Wood's branded Gatorade was marked "Discontinued" at the local stop and shop and marked down to 80 cents a jug....bought a dozen of them...:D

Love it John!

That is good business! Always ready to take a good deal!

:thumbsup

[tstew]

Tiger Wood's branded Gatorade was marked "Discontinued" at the local stop and shop and marked down to 80 cents a jug....bought a dozen of them...:D

I heard it reported that the decision to not do his line of drinks was actually made a few weeks ago for other reasons. If that is the case, the timing probably couldn't have been any worse for him...or better for them.

[n david]

I heard it reported that the decision to not do his line of drinks was actually made a few weeks ago for other reasons. If that is the case, the timing probably couldn't have been any worse for him...or better for them.
I heard that, too. From what I understand, Tiger and Gatoraide have a drink already with Woods, but they were going to release another drink next year, but decided sometime before the news of the affairs came out not to proceed with that new drink.

[StillStanding]

It was bound to happen! A hilarious new video game!

Click the link below and use your up and down arrows. Enjoy!

http://www.break.com/games/tiger-woods-wife-outrun.html

[Ferd]

I heard today that Tiger's name has been changed to Cheetah?

[dizzyde]

I heard today that Tiger's name has been changed to Cheetah?

WRONG!!!!!! :foottap :smack :ursofunny

[Ferd]

WRONG!!!!!! :foottap :smack :ursofunny

What? I was just asking a question!

[Sam]

It was bound to happen! A hilarious new video game!

Click the link below and use your up and down arrows. Enjoy!

http://www.break.com/games/tiger-woods-wife-outrun.html

somebody needs to post this on the joke thread

[notofworks]

I and my family are deeply saddened by the recent developments in the lives of Tiger & Elin Woods. Tiger has brought much joy into our lives in some very crucial times. He is a genuinely nice, caring, and compassionate person. But he has fallen into things that are destructive and our prayers, even including him in our dinner-time prayers, are with him. I agree with Jack Nicklaus....he'll figure this out. And I agree with John Daly...don't just stay together for the kids. Really, really work it out and we'll be ready to root for you, even more vigorously than ever, when you return to golf.

Thank you, Tiger, for what you've meant to our family, thank you for walking away from the PGA Tour to take care of what's really important, and thank you for the impact those around you have made on our lives. Be well, be healed, and we'll ready for you when you return!!

[Jeffrey]

Very pleased that he is hanging up the career for now to work on his family.

[Jermyn Davidson]

they all should drop him, but they wont because they need him and any black superstar they can find . always amazing how a lot of blacks dont like whites UNLESS they are blonde and beautiful ! most of the news organizations including espn are trading very softly on their meal ticket.when oprah gets done with him he will be back, to quote ex gov edwin edwards of louisiana" as long as i dont get caught with a boy or a dead girl ill be fine " he would know!

Interesting enough, one of my younger white friends made a statement similar to this a few years ago.

He asked something along the lines of, "Why do Black guys always go for White blondes with blue eyes?"


It was more of a statement than a question.


I dug a little deeper and he told me he that interracial dating made him angry-- more specifically Blacks and Whites.

During our discussion, one of the remarks I made was, "It takes 2 to tango."
In his illogical prejudice, he had forgotten that both parties are usually willing when people date each other.


He was also under the impression that most Black guys want to have "relations" with White women because Black women were so unattractive and White women were just more beautiful.

I laughed.

No, I didn't get angry. I just corrected him, hoping he would realize from our conversation that he was entitled to his taste in women but that his opinions were misguided.

We agreed to disagree and leave it alone. Sometimes, it's best that way.

[StillStanding]

Interesting enough, one of my younger white friends made a statement similar to this a few years ago.

He asked something along the lines of, "Why do Black guys always go for White blondes with blue eyes?"


It was more of a statement than a question.


I dug a little deeper and he told me he that interracial dating made him angry-- more specifically Blacks and Whites.

During our discussion, one of the remarks I made was, "It takes 2 to tango."
In his illogical prejudice, he had forgotten that both parties are usually willing when people date each other.


He was also under the impression that most Black guys want to have "relations" with White women because Black women were so unattractive and White women were just more beautiful.

I laughed.

No, I didn't get angry. I just corrected him, hoping he would realize from our conversation that he was entitled to his taste in women but that his opinions were misguided.

We agreed to disagree and leave it alone. Sometimes, it's best that way.

You're a good man, Jermyn! :thumbsup

[ManOfWord]

I am sorry for Tiger and his family...I really am. The pain that is caused in these situations is unknown by most.

However, it appears that we are not talking about a slip of judgment. We are not talking about a 1 night stand when passions just got too much to bear. It appears that we are talking about a double lifestyle. It appears that we are not talking about an addiction, but a chosen lifestyle. One can choose to be faithful or one can choose not to be faithful.

As a Sr. Pastor, I have had more than one woman "hit" on me over the years and it was obvious what they were after. I have tried my best to kindly and respectfully not return those misplaced expectations. I have chosen to be faithful to my lovely wife. For that, the congregation I lead, appreciates that in me, as they should. If it ever came to light that I was leading a double life and had another woman/women on the side, they would be devastated, and I can understand that. I believe that most folks root for the good guy to win. I have believed Tiger to be a good guy. I have admired his "family" manner and "rooted" for his success. However, I, along with the rest of the world, have been scammed. We were seeing something that did not exist, it appears. It offends me and disappoints me. However, I will not pray for Tigers' demise. He, along with King David, have committed a terrible indiscretion that has affected multitudes who also were rooting for the good guy. If the fame of his repentance exceeds the fame of his fall, he can be restored. I pray for that restoration.

Do I feel sorry for him? Yes and no. The "YES" part of me states that it is sad that anyone's family has to go through this. The "NO" part of me states that if he didn't want these consequences he should have made different choices. For the life of me, I can't imagine how public figures like him, whose faces are planted all over the world think that they can get away without anyone saying anything etc. After all, what woman wouldn't eventually say, "Hey, you'll never guess who I slept with?"

I am glad that he is focusing on his family. I hope and pray that it works. It may be too late for that...I hope not. God's forgiveness is available to him and to all.

However, as a wise man once said, "If you can't do the "time" don't commit the "crime." Sorry Tiger, I'm in your corner, but don't expect me to say that it's OK and you just stubbed your toe here. You should have known better. You should have appreciated the blessings you have been given more. You should have cherished your lovely wife and children more than your base fleshly nature. Is it difficult to stay faithful? Not as difficult as it is to achieve the level of success in golf that you have. You REALLY do know how to overcome difficult situations. Bad form, Tiger. Bad form.

[notofworks]

I am sorry for Tiger and his family...I really am. The pain that is caused in these situations is unknown by most.


You really should have stopped with that. The rest of what you said boggles my mind. Oh well. You were scammed? Please.

I brought this thread back up today because I wanted to state my family's support of Tiger and reaffirm that our daily prayers, even to the point of intercession, are with him. I knew someone would say, "Yeah, but....." but I put it up anyway. I just wanted to say it.

To say that one is getting what one deserves is to completely ignore the fact, that if humanity got what it deserved, we would all be doomed (Lamentations 3:22). We all applaud your ability to resist the many women that, evidently, come after you. But I'm guessing there are some things you haven't resisted.

Go ahead, go on the message board at www.tigerwoods.com and join in with the thousands of condemnation specialists who are yelling at him (most of whom are very gifted at the use of vulgarities). Our family deeply hopes that he and his wife and able to get through this and not only survive, but do very well.

Tiger Woods said that, along with wanting to be a better husband and father, he also wants to be a better person. I can only pray and ask God to enable him to do just that. And I also pray that somehow, this destructive situation could somehow lead him to Jesus.

[Cindy]

You really should have stopped with that. The rest of what you said boggles my mind. Oh well. You were scammed? Please.

I brought this thread back up today because I wanted to state my family's support of Tiger and reaffirm that our daily prayers, even to the point of intercession, are with him. I knew someone would say, "Yeah, but....." but I put it up anyway. I just wanted to say it.

To say that one is getting what one deserves is to completely ignore the fact, that if humanity got what it deserved, we would all be doomed (Lamentations 3:22). We all applaud your ability to resist the many women that, evidently, come after you. But I'm guessing there are some things you haven't resisted.

Go ahead, go on the message board at www.tigerwoods.com and join in with the thousands of condemnation specialists who are yelling at him (most of whom are very gifted at the use of vulgarities). Our family deeply hopes that he and his wife and able to get through this and not only survive, but do very well.

Tiger Woods said that, along with wanting to be a better husband and father, he also wants to be a better person. I can only pray and ask God to enable him to do just that. And I also pray that somehow, this destructive situation could somehow lead him to Jesus.

Do you really believe that he is taking time out of the spotlight to focus on his family? Or, that maybe he is trying to hide because the world found out he is a liar and a cheater?

[ManOfWord]

You really should have stopped with that. The rest of what you said boggles my mind. Oh well. You were scammed? Please.

Scammed is right. I along with many others thought he was something that he wasn't. If it were just a mistake, that's one thing. But it, apparently was a repeated lifestyle behavior.

I brought this thread back up today because I wanted to state my family's support of Tiger and reaffirm that our daily prayers, even to the point of intercession, are with him. I knew someone would say, "Yeah, but....." but I put it up anyway. I just wanted to say it.

And you have every right to say it. So do I.

To say that one is getting what one deserves is to completely ignore the fact, that if humanity got what it deserved, we would all be doomed (Lamentations 3:22). We all applaud your ability to resist the many women that, evidently, come after you. But I'm guessing there are some things you haven't resisted.

I didn't say there were MANY women. Don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. I said more than one. Over the course of 25+ yrs of pastoring that is probably not abnormal. I'm not holier than others and certainly not holier than Tiger. Your gift of prophecy must be working well. You're right.....I have made mistakes...I am not perfect. However, I DO know what is important and he should have as well. Faithfulness to one's spouse should not be something abnormal. No excuse for what he did no matter what you say. A single indiscretion is completely different from what he has done. It is what it is and he CAN be forgiven and restored as I have said. I pray for that to happen.

Go ahead, go on the message board at www.tigerwoods.com and join in with the thousands of condemnation specialists who are yelling at him (most of whom are very gifted at the use of vulgarities). Our family deeply hopes that he and his wife and able to get through this and not only survive, but do very well.

I have no intention of piling on the stones on some web site solely for the purpose of destruction. I'm not yelling at him AND I don't use vulgarities. That is not what this thread is about either. I am expressing my opinion. I am simply looking at both sides of the equation. If it were me, I'd say the same thing. No candy coating. No smoke and mirrors. Sin, especially THIS sin is ugly and unfortunately, in the face of everyone. It speaks to the very core of man's character....faithfulness to the one you have chosen to spend the rest of your life with. This man practices day in and day out to put the little white ball in the little cup. He says "NO" to so many things which vie for his attention away from that. Don't tell me with a straight face that he didn't have the constitution to remain faithful to Elin. He chose where his victories were and one of the things which REALLY matter, he chose not to. It is forgivable, but unacceptable.

Tiger Woods said that, along with wanting to be a better husband and father, he also wants to be a better person. I can only pray and ask God to enable him to do just that. And I also pray that somehow, this destructive situation could somehow lead him to Jesus.

I pray as well that the Sovereign Lord will hear Tiger's cries and prayers and heal his marriage and draw him to Him who is able to restore. That does not negate the facts of what I have stated.....fair and balanced! :D

[MissBrattified]

I am sorry for Tiger and his family...I really am. The pain that is caused in these situations is unknown by most.

However, it appears that we are not talking about a slip of judgment. We are not talking about a 1 night stand when passions just got too much to bear. It appears that we are talking about a double lifestyle. It appears that we are not talking about an addiction, but a chosen lifestyle. One can choose to be faithful or one can choose not to be faithful.

As a Sr. Pastor, I have had more than one woman "hit" on me over the years and it was obvious what they were after. I have tried my best to kindly and respectfully not return those misplaced expectations. I have chosen to be faithful to my lovely wife. For that, the congregation I lead, appreciates that in me, as they should. If it ever came to light that I was leading a double life and had another woman/women on the side, they would be devastated, and I can understand that. I believe that most folks root for the good guy to win. I have believed Tiger to be a good guy. I have admired his "family" manner and "rooted" for his success. However, I, along with the rest of the world, have been scammed. We were seeing something that did not exist, it appears. It offends me and disappoints me. However, I will not pray for Tigers' demise. He, along with King David, have committed a terrible indiscretion that has affected multitudes who also were rooting for the good guy. If the fame of his repentance exceeds the fame of his fall, he can be restored. I pray for that restoration.

Do I feel sorry for him? Yes and no. The "YES" part of me states that it is sad that anyone's family has to go through this. The "NO" part of me states that if he didn't want these consequences he should have made different choices. For the life of me, I can't imagine how public figures like him, whose faces are planted all over the world think that they can get away without anyone saying anything etc. After all, what woman wouldn't eventually say, "Hey, you'll never guess who I slept with?"

I am glad that he is focusing on his family. I hope and pray that it works. It may be too late for that...I hope not. God's forgiveness is available to him and to all.

However, as a wise man once said, "If you can't do the "time" don't commit the "crime." Sorry Tiger, I'm in your corner, but don't expect me to say that it's OK and you just stubbed your toe here. You should have known better. You should have appreciated the blessings you have been given more. You should have cherished your lovely wife and children more than your base fleshly nature. Is it difficult to stay faithful? Not as difficult as it is to achieve the level of success in golf that you have. You REALLY do know how to overcome difficult situations. Bad form, Tiger. Bad form.

Good post. :thumbsup

[ManOfWord]

Good post. :thumbsup


My guess is that more women will agree with my post than men. Hmmmmmm....I wonder what that means. :D

[Jeffrey]

I pray as well that the Sovereign Lord will hear Tiger's cries and prayers and heal his marriage and draw him to Him who is able to restore. That does not negate the facts of what I have stated.....fair and balanced! :D

You thought he was something he wasn't? You measured his Christian character as a golf fan? Did you forget he was a human and is not the first to get stuck in secret sin?

[Jeffrey]

Perhaps because us men know how close of a temptation and struggle this is. And likely all the more for a man like Tiger, who is not filled with the Spirit, and who knows where is spiritual relationship with Jesus is. All the more reason for me, as a Christian, to root him on toward healing, hoping the best for his children and family -- and Tiger himself. In the shoes of the wife, I can understand her anger and feelings. I'm not the wife, I'm an outsider praying the best for their family and that's it.

We have so much fun with this poor guy's life...

[notofworks]

Scammed is right. I along with many others thought he was something that he wasn't. If it were just a mistake, that's one thing. But it, apparently was a repeated lifestyle behavior.

You thought Tiger was a great golfer. He is, in fact, a great golfer. I don't see how you were scammed.

I didn't say there were MANY women. Don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. I said more than one. Over the course of 25+ yrs of pastoring that is probably not abnormal. I'm not holier than others and certainly not holier than Tiger. Your gift of prophecy must be working well. You're right.....I have made mistakes...I am not perfect. However, I DO know what is important and he should have as well. Faithfulness to one's spouse should not be something abnormal. No excuse for what he did no matter what you say. A single indiscretion is completely different from what he has done. It is what it is and he CAN be forgiven and restored as I have said. I pray for that to happen.

"Many"....."More than one"....I'll let you parse the words. It's all relative. Some would believe "more than one" to be "Many." Since you've made mistakes, committed sins, and had lapses in judgment, as has Tiger, why don't you leave it at that and only pray for him, rather than announcing what he deserves. Again, Lamentations 3:22.

I have no intention of piling on the stones on some web site solely for the purpose of destruction. I'm not yelling at him AND I don't use vulgarities. That is not what this thread is about either. I am expressing my opinion. I am simply looking at both sides of the equation. If it were me, I'd say the same thing. No candy coating. No smoke and mirrors. Sin, especially THIS sin is ugly and unfortunately, in the face of everyone. It speaks to the very core of man's character....faithfulness to the one you have chosen to spend the rest of your life with. This man practices day in and day out to put the little white ball in the little cup. He says "NO" to so many things which vie for his attention away from that. Don't tell me with a straight face that he didn't have the constitution to remain faithful to Elin. He chose where his victories were and one of the things which REALLY matter, he chose not to. It is forgivable, but unacceptable.

Yes, he failed. He could have avoided it, but he didn't. You, as well, could have avoided every sin you've ever committed. But you didn't. You and Tiger are the same in that respect. You've probably behaved better than he. Good for you. But you both need God's grace. For all have sinned (past tense) and come short (present tense) of the glory of God.

I pray as well that the Sovereign Lord will hear Tiger's cries and prayers and heal his marriage and draw him to Him who is able to restore. That does not negate the facts of what I have stated.....fair and balanced!

To be fair and balanced, it should be made clear that your depravity, without God's grace, is just like Tiger's.

I hope you still like it when "Iron sharpens iron", although you may not considered me to be "iron"! :)

[notofworks]

We have so much fun with this poor guy's life...

Isn't THAT the truth! Imagine if every Follower of Christ just prayed for the guy's life.

[ManOfWord]

To be fair and balanced, it should be made clear that your depravity, without God's grace, is just like Tiger's.

I hope you still like it when "Iron sharpens iron", although you may not considered me to be "iron"! :)

No, I didn't' think Tiger was a great golfer. Everyone knew that he was. Most of us thought he was a "good guy" when it came to his family. I would never expect perfection. I WOULD expect faithfulness to Elin, as did she, as did most, and I assume YOU as well.

I also have no problem whatsoever stating in clarity that my depravity, without God's grace deserves an horrible pit. But He, through His blood has promised me a heavenly place. However, because of his larger than life, life and his apparent, good family man personna, we all expected more and that expectation is not unreasonable. It is expected of ALL leaders. There are certain things you can't get away with when it comes to leadership. Those who fail to realize that, IMO, are in danger of repeating them.

A leader can make many mistakes which will not ruin his leadership. He can have a slip of the tongue; file taxes late; make a less than stellar decision, misjudge a situation; loose his temper etc. But when a leader makes such an egregious error in judgment, which goes to the very core of his ability to lead, that is keeping his word, that "Titanic" is going down. That is not a criticism of the man. That is simply the way leadership works.

You continually fail to mention the GOOD things I have stated regarding this situation. I didn't stop at the good things because of the reality. No fear in stating truth. I have not judged him. I have only said what I would say if I were in his shoes. Accepting responsibility is what big boys do. Generals well understand that as do presidents and kings etc.

Pro. 6:32 But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. 33 Blows and disgrace are his lot, and his shame will never be wiped away;

The balance is this: Jn. 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

[Jeffrey]

Tiger is neither a leader nor a Christian leader. Perhaps we may infer his exposure qualifies, but that's not exactly something he signed up for. He just played golf quite well.

[ManOfWord]

Tiger is neither a leader nor a Christian leader. Perhaps we may infer his exposure qualifies, but that's not exactly something he signed up for. He just played golf quite well.

Ah...you greatly err! Tiger IS a leader. Maybe not a Christian leader, but a leader nonetheless. He played golf not only "quite well" but better than anyone else. THAT qualifies him as a leader. The guy out front is ALWAYS the leader.

The world is always looking for heroes. Not perfect people, but heroes nonetheless. A hero is not one w/o faults, mistakes etc. People are desperately looking for people with integrity. Those who keep their word and their important covenants.

I really do get great joy from someone who is at the top of their game and who excels above the others. I love to say, "Bravo" at a great accomplishment even if it is not perfect. But there is nothing greater than keeping one's commitment to their spouse, especially in the face of difficult situations. I know it takes two and I'm not being idyllic. But THAT is an accomplishment worthy of note above all others. That is also a biblical principle. One which our society has watered down and made archaic. I applaud anyone in the public eye who at least has victory in that area. I could admire a wacky WWF wrestler who stays married to his first wife and stays faithful as well. THAT deserves a standing "O!" IMO :D

[Jeffrey]

Ah...you greatly err! Tiger IS a leader. Maybe not a Christian leader, but a leader nonetheless. He played golf not only "quite well" but better than anyone else. THAT qualifies him as a leader. The guy out front is ALWAYS the leader.

The world is always looking for heroes. Not perfect people, but heroes nonetheless. A hero is not one w/o faults, mistakes etc. People are desperately looking for people with integrity. Those who keep their word and their important covenants.

I really do get great joy from someone who is at the top of their game and who excels above the others. I love to say, "Bravo" at a great accomplishment even if it is not perfect. But there is nothing greater than keeping one's commitment to their spouse, especially in the face of difficult situations. I know it takes two and I'm not being idyllic. But THAT is an accomplishment worthy of note above all others. That is also a biblical principle. One which our society has watered down and made archaic. I applaud anyone in the public eye who at least has victory in that area. I could admire a wacky WWF wrestler who stays married to his first wife and stays faithful as well. THAT deserves a standing "O!" IMO :D

Those who follow him seeking leadership need a reality check.

I get your statement, and it's one I teach my children, but in a technical sense, Tiger Woods is not leading anyone. I think a football player would better qualify. He's a one-man show and sports phenom.

Anyway, point being, he's not a Christian nor an actual leader, though some perceive him to be so because of sheer exposure. I agree that keeping commitment is not only noble but expected. For me, this isn't about my thoughts on adultery. Most of us made our statements condemning the behavior from Day 1. This is Day 20, time to move on and pray for Tiger personally.

[notofworks]

No, I didn't' think Tiger was a great golfer. Everyone knew that he was. Most of us thought he was a "good guy" when it came to his family. I would never expect perfection. I WOULD expect faithfulness to Elin, as did she, as did most, and I assume YOU as well.

I'll admit, I'm surprised at what has taken place. And because I have a son that has, from the time he was small, prayed for Tiger to come to faith in Christ, we are both heartbroken at what has occurred, and hopeful that this will allow him to realize he needs something more than his own strength, talent, and discipline.

Yes, I would have hoped that he would be faithful, but I also know that rock stars, actors, and athletes face sexual temptations to extents that you and I will never comprehend. I'd like to think I would pass the test. But honestly, none of us could know for sure until we were in that place. I hope by God's grace, I would. But I also hope that if I blew it, even repeatedly as Tiger did, that there would be a place of shelter and safety for me.

I also have no problem whatsoever stating in clarity that my depravity, without God's grace deserves an horrible pit. But He, through His blood has promised me a heavenly place. However, because of his larger than life, life and his apparent, good family man personna, we all expected more and that expectation is not unreasonable. It is expected of ALL leaders. There are certain things you can't get away with when it comes to leadership. Those who fail to realize that, IMO, are in danger of repeating them.

I don't see Tiger as a leader of anything besides tournament leader boards and PGA Tour money lists. Your remarks concerning leaders would seem to apply to everyone.

A leader can make many mistakes which will not ruin his leadership. He can have a slip of the tongue; file taxes late; make a less than stellar decision, misjudge a situation; loose his temper etc. But when a leader makes such an egregious error in judgment, which goes to the very core of his ability to lead, that is keeping his word, that "Titanic" is going down. That is not a criticism of the man. That is simply the way leadership works.

Again, what you're saying about leaders applies to everyone.

Tiger himself said, "I may not be able to repair the damage I've done." He knows how bad this is and he knows it MUCH better than any of us who are on the internet typing gibberish. It's theory to us, but it's real for him and his family. I think it's notable that he has not hired a PR crisis management firm to help. He's going with his heart and I think that's a great start.

You continually fail to mention the GOOD things I have stated regarding this situation. I didn't stop at the good things because of the reality. No fear in stating truth. I have not judged him. I have only said what I would say if I were in his shoes. Accepting responsibility is what big boys do. Generals well understand that as do presidents and kings etc.

The good things you say are always followed by, "But....". Like I said when this all started, "If you'd just stopped after the first paragraph."

I don't understand why we all need to point pout the obvious. Galatians 5 says, "The works of the flesh are evident" or "obvious." We all know what he did wrong and we all know how terrible it is. So does Tiger. Why do we feel the need to come here and throw our hat into the ring of announcing his wrongs? What more is there to say than, "Oh God!! Help him! Please!"? Is there really anything else to say?

Pro. 6:32 But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. 33 Blows and disgrace are his lot, and his shame will never be wiped away;

"He forgave all your sin. He canceled the record that contained the charges against us. He took it and destroyed it by nailing it to Christ's cross." Colossians 2:14-15.

Jesus bore not only our sin but our shame as well.

The balance is this: Jn. 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

I and my family are praying that he will come to the Father. And in the midst of the prayers, there seems to be nothing else to say.

[ManOfWord]

I and my family are praying that he will come to the Father. And in the midst of the prayers, there seems to be nothing else to say.

What you may fail to realize is that this place is a discussion board. We discuss things here. We discuss the good, the bad and the ugly. It is not a one dimensional "Pollyannic" only say the good things discussion board. You're absolutely right that I have said the good things and then, "But." That is because the "but" exists. Sorry if you don't like the fact that the bad along with the good gets "bytes." It is the reality you don't seem to take too well to around here. I dare say that we are a far cry from the web site you unwisely mentioned here that is trashing him. No one has trashed him here, IMO. We have been discussing the reality of his public life and his indiscretions.

I pray that he not only restores his marriage but that he can become an example of what can happen when one determines to make things right. He has the ability.....if he trusts in the One who gave him his talent. Let's see what an "athlete" he can be in that area. I pray that he gets the "trophy." :D

[ThePastorsCoach]

I like Tiger Woods! I think it is admirable that he has repented and now is going to just work on restoring his marriage and keeping his family together. I hope he does salvage it.
As for him giving up golf for a while... I tried it but it was too boring for me. Lord help!!! Walking around all day in the heat and hitting a little ball a few feet into a hole in the ground???? No way Jose! I have to have a little adventure in my life! Well, come to think of if it..... maybe that is why he NEEDED a little adventure in his life! LOL
GOD BLESS TIGER WOODS!

[notofworks]

What you may fail to realize is that this place is a discussion board. We discuss things here. We discuss the good, the bad and the ugly.

And what you fail to realize is that I am discussing things here. Do I not have the right to do that? You are expressing an opinion and so am I. Are you the only one who gets to do that? Please allow me to express my opinion without announcing that I fail to realize that AFF has discussions.

It is the reality you don't seem to take too well to around here.

Really? Would you like me to leave? Am I too difficult for you? I thought you like "iron sharpening iron." :) What you fail to realize is, that around here, we have discussions! :D

I dare say that we are a far cry from the web site you unwisely mentioned here that is trashing him.

Seriously? That was unwise? Surely you jest. What was unwise about me mentioning tigerwoods.com? If you're serious, you completely lost me.

No one has trashed him here, IMO. We have been discussing the reality of his public life and his indiscretions.

I disagree (shocker, huh?)Posting pictures of him beat up with his wife holding a golf club and saying it's their Christmas card is trashing him. Posting numerous jokes about his sin is trashing him.

I pray that he not only restores his marriage but that he can become an example of what can happen when one determines to make things right. He has the ability.....if he trusts in the One who gave him his talent. Let's see what an "athlete" he can be in that area. I pray that he gets the "trophy." :D

Now we can hold hands and sing "Kum ba yah" on that statement!!!

Well, for anyone who thinks all we ex-upcers are just alike, I guess we're provin'em wrong!! :lol

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

And what you fail to realize is that I am discussing things here. Do I not have the right to do that? You are expressing an opinion and so am I. Are you the only one who gets to do that? Please allow me to express my opinion without announcing that I fail to realize that AFF has discussions.

Of course you do. You were the one who was seeming to state that my discussions should not include the "bad." I was only defending my right to include the bad along with the good.


Really? Would you like me to leave? Am I too difficult for you? I thought you like "iron sharpening iron." What you fail to realize is, that around here, we have discussions!

Of course we don't want you to leave. You're not difficult...just cantankerous!


Seriously? That was unwise? Surely you jest. What was unwise about me mentioning tigerwoods.com? If you're serious, you completely lost me.

How does it feel to be lost? LOL


I disagree (shocker, huh?)Posting pictures of him beat up with his wife holding a golf club and saying it's their Christmas card is trashing him. Posting numerous jokes about his sin is trashing him.

You certainly have a right to be wrong.

I pray that he not only restores his marriage but that he can become an example of what can happen when one determines to make things right. He has the ability.....if he trusts in the One who gave him his talent. Let's see what an "athlete" he can be in that area. I pray that he gets the "trophy."

Now we can hold hands and sing "Kum ba yah" on that statement!!!

Not sure I can go THAT far! :D

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

And what you fail to realize is that I am discussing things here. Do I not have the right to do that? You are expressing an opinion and so am I. Are you the only one who gets to do that? Please allow me to express my opinion without announcing that I fail to realize that AFF has discussions.

Of course you do. You were the one who was seeming to state that my discussions should not include the "bad." I was only defending my right to include the bad along with the good.


And I'm defending my right to have a different opinion, in essence, my right to have a discussion which you accused me of not realizing takes place on AFF. :lol Boy, this could get confusing.



Really? Would you like me to leave? Am I too difficult for you? I thought you like "iron sharpening iron." What you fail to realize is, that around here, we have discussions!

Of course we don't want you to leave. You're not difficult...just cantankerous!

It's not easy dealing with a differing opinion. :D



Seriously? That was unwise? Surely you jest. What was unwise about me mentioning tigerwoods.com? If you're serious, you completely lost me.

How does it feel to be lost? LOL

Or you could just answer the question. Why was it unwise for me to reference tigerwoods.com? If you're going to say that, back it up. That's what it's like when you're a leader....you have to be prepared to back up what you say!



I disagree (shocker, huh?)Posting pictures of him beat up with his wife holding a golf club and saying it's their Christmas card is trashing him. Posting numerous jokes about his sin is trashing him.

You certainly have a right to be wrong.

Or you could answer my point. Most of us have discussions here on AFF! :D



I pray that he not only restores his marriage but that he can become an example of what can happen when one determines to make things right. He has the ability.....if he trusts in the One who gave him his talent. Let's see what an "athlete" he can be in that area. I pray that he gets the "trophy."

Now we can hold hands and sing "Kum ba yah" on that statement!!!

Not sure I can go THAT far! :D

I'm always happy to reconcile and be friends!

[ManOfWord]

I'm always happy to reconcile and be friends!


LOL!

I thought we WERE friends! :D

[notofworks]

LOL!

I thought we WERE friends! :D


You refused to sing "Kum ba yah" with me. What am I supposed to think?? :lol

[ManOfWord]

You refused to sing "Kum ba yah" with me. What am I supposed to think?? :lol

Oh, I get it. You'll only fellowship with me if I sing YOUR song! Well, that's a fine howdy do! :D

[notofworks]

Oh, I get it. You'll only fellowship with me if I sing YOUR song! Well, that's a fine howdy do! :D

Today our pastor (me) was speaking about the church being a place of safety. He (me) said, "For those of you who may have laughed at jokes or told jokes about Tiger Woods this week.....If we want those outside the faith to really believe that we a safe place where grace is given, how could they ever be sure if they see us laughing at and joking about celebrities, actors, athletes, and TV preachers who have fallen into immorality. Think about that before you pass on your funny emails."

Great preacher! :preach

[ManOfWord]

Today our pastor (me) was speaking about Mary's example of worshipping (her song in Luke) in the midst of the unexpected "blessing" of being pregnant. He (me) said that people were talking about her and the "sin" she must have committed just as much as people were talking about Tiger Woods and making jokes about his lack of integrity.

[notofworks]

Today our pastor (me) was speaking about Mary's example of worshipping (her song in Luke) in the midst of the unexpected "blessing" of being pregnant. He (me) said that people were talking about her and the "sin" she must have committed just as much as people were talking about Tiger Woods and making jokes about his lack of integrity.


So you compared Mary (who was innocent) to Tiger (who is guilty). I have some allegory help books if you're interested! :lol According to the latest Nielson ratings, our pastor's (me) sermon was better today! :D

[mizpeh]

So you compared Mary (who was innocent) to Tiger (who is guilty). I have some allegory help books if you're interested! :lol According to the latest Nielson ratings, our pastor's (me) sermon was better today! :DWhat was the title?

[ManOfWord]

So you compared Mary (who was innocent) to Tiger (who is guilty). I have some allegory help books if you're interested! :lol According to the latest Nielson ratings, our pastor's (me) sermon was better today! :D


Oh yeah.....well we had a young lady get baptized! That trumps yours! LOL

[notofworks]

Oh yeah.....well we had a young lady get baptized! That trumps yours! LOL

Just one? :hmmm

[notofworks]

What was the title?


Wow. I haven't thought of that in a long time. I suppose I forgot about the title concept long ago. It was the end of a three-part series and I would tell you the three weeks but I would feel like major loserville.....which is, guys that talk about their own sermons. All I'm gonna say is that my sermon was better than ManofWord's and that my allegories were biblically sound! (at this point in the post I want to put up one of those smilies but the one I want isn't here.....there's one that says "You Rock" but could I get one made that says "I Rock"? I'd appreciate it, thanks!) :preach (I'll just use that one again)

[mizpeh]

Wow. I haven't thought of that in a long time. I suppose I forgot about the title concept long ago. It was the end of a three-part series and I would tell you the three weeks but I would feel like major loserville.....which is, guys that talk about their own sermons. All I'm gonna say is that my sermon was better than ManofWord's and that my allegories were biblically sound! (at this point in the post I want to put up one of those smilies but the one I want isn't here.....there's one that says "You Rock" but could I get one made that says "I Rock"? I'd appreciate it, thanks!) :preach (I'll just use that one again)It's not wise to compare yourself with someone else except Christ.

[notofworks]

It's not wise to compare yourself with someone else except Christ.


:lol Hopefully, it's obvious that I'm being completely ridiculous. I used that verse once (unwise to compare) when I was in bible quizzing and questioned why we kept score since it was unwise to compare. We were losing. They didn't go for it.

[ManOfWord]

Just one? :hmmm

It was a slow morning, attendance was down, music was off, etc! :D

[notofworks]

It was a slow morning, attendance was down, music was off, etc! :D


Or the sermon was bad? :lol

[Tina]

music was off, etc! :D

Tell the people on stage they need more time in the prayer rooms before service. That won't happen again. (That's what my pastor says) :heeheehee

[n david]

Nike and another sponsor sticking with Woods...

Accenture severed ties...

Wife may end up proceeding with divorce, contrary to reports last week which had her family stating she would stay with him for the sake of the kids...

[Sam]

don't know how many have seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgiCX_y1BW8

[notofworks]

don't know how many have seen this:




I've decided not to post for a while because I'm tired of arguing with the same people about the same pointless stuff. Maybe I should also exile myself from reading because, of course, this kind of garbage will make me post every time, dang it!!

From the vantage point of the cross, from the broken heart of Jesus who could be nothing but greatly saddened by the moral failures of Tiger, I have no idea how we could laugh at a paraded list of "plates" featuring the women with which he failed.

Nothing funny about it. Nothing.

[MrsMcD]

I think Tiger's situation is very sad. I don't understand. What more could he want? He had it all from the world's perspective. Sad indeed.

[ManOfWord]

It's not like he was married for 20yrs and got bored with his wife. He was ONLY married 5 yrs! How long have these trysts been going on? So much for "Till death do you part!" It is worse than sad. It's a "humpty dumpty" tale, for sure!

[rgcraig]

Sounds like his dad had this "problem" too.

It's truly sad.

[ManOfWord]

Sounds like his dad had this "problem" too.

It's truly sad.

If that's the case, then SHAME on his father!

"Visiting the iniquity of the fathers to the children to the 3rd and 4th generations..."

[Ferd]

The day before Christmas break, Little Timmy’s teacher tells the class, that the first student to correctly identify a quote would get to go home early.

Timmy, being a kid who hated school, really wanted out so he determined to win the extra vacation.

The teacher says “who said: Four score and seven years ago”?
Before Timmy could even open his mouth, little Suzie said “Abraham Lincoln!”
The teacher said “Right! Suzie, you can go home now!”
Timmy was not happy but the teacher said she had another quote.
Timmy got ready and the teacher asked “Who said: Ask not what your country can do for you”?
Before Timmy could even open his mouth Janie said “John Kennedy!”
The teacher replied “that’s right Janie, you can go home now!”
Timmy was steamed.
Under his breath he said “I wish those stupid girls would shut up!”
But he said it a bit too loud and the teacher angrily retorted “Who said that!?!”
Timmy said “Tiger Woods, can I go home now?”

[oletime]

FERD????:santathumb

[Jermyn Davidson]

It's official, the wife is divorcing Tiger Woods and has hired a very pricey lawyer to carry this out.


I think this is the only logical decision she could come up with. I am shocked it took her this long.

I guess she really loved him.
Too bad he didn't love her.
So sad.