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Apocrypha
12-16-2009, 10:24 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091210/ap_on_re_as/as_china_mega_church_1

LINFEN, China – Towering eight stories over wheat fields, the Golden Lamp Church was built to serve nearly 50,000 worshippers in the gritty heart of China's coal country.

But that was before hundreds of police and hired thugs descended on the mega-church, smashing doors and windows, seizing Bibles and sending dozens of worshippers to hospitals with serious injuries, members and activists say

Today, the church's co-pastors are in jail. The gates to the church complex in the northern province of Shanxi are locked and a police armored personnel vehicle sits outside.

The closure of what may be China's first mega-church is the most visible sign that the communist government is determined to rein in the rapid spread of Christianity, with a crackdown in recent months that church leaders call the harshest in years.

Authorities describe the actions against churches as stemming from land disputes, but the congregations under attack are among the most successful in China's growing "house church" movement, which rejects the state-controlled church in favor of liturgical independence and a more passionate, evangelical outlook.

While the Chinese constitution guarantees freedom of religion, Christians are required to worship in churches run by state-controlled organizations: The Three-Self Patriotic Movement for Protestants and the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association for Roman Catholics.

But more and more Chinese are opting to choose their own churches, despite them being technically illegal and subject to police harassment. Christians worshipping in China's independent churches are believed to number upwards of 60 million, compared to about 20 million who worship in the state church, according to numbers provided by scholars and church activists.

House churches have been around for decades, but their growth has accelerated in recent decades, producing larger and larger congregations that are far more conspicuous than the small groups of friends and neighbors that used to worship in private homes, giving the movement its name.

Their expansion and growing influence has deeply unsettled China's rulers, always suspicious of any independent social group that could challenge communist authority. Fears that Tibetan Buddhism and Islam promote separatism among Tibetans and Uighurs also drive restrictions on those religions.

"They are so afraid of rallying points developing for gathering of elements of civil society," said Daniel Bays, who follows Chinese Christianity at Calvin College, a religious school in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

While house churches have faced varying degrees of repression depending on the region and political climate, the latest crackdown appears to specifically target the largest congregations.

Authorities want to dismantle large churches "before they grow out of total control," said Bob Fu, a former Communist Party researcher in Beijing who now heads the China Aid Association, a Texas-based church monitoring group.

At least two other large churches have recently faced similar crackdowns.

In Beijing in October, authorities locked parishioners of Shouwang house church out of the space they had rented to worship in. In Shanghai, the Wangbang congregation faced a similar lockout. Both congregations had grown to more than 1,000 members.

Shouwang and Wangbang church leaders have not been detained, but activists fear further arrests are coming.

In a brief phone conversation, Wangbang's pastor Cui Quan said worship continued in small groups while he fought to have their lease restored. He declined to give other details.

Christianity was long associated with foreign interference in traditionally Buddhist and Taoist China, and came under heavy attack after the 1949 Communist revolution.

The most onerous restrictions were lifted after the death of communist leader Mao Zedong in 1976. Although Christians still account for a less than 10 percent of China's 1.3 billion people, recent years have seen rapid growth in house churches in both cities and rural areas,

Adding to official concerns about their numbers, house-church Christians also emphasize missionary work — illegal in China — and some have even operated an underground network to help smuggle North Korean refugees and Uighurs out of China in defiance of the security forces.

The Golden Lamp Church was built by husband and wife evangelists Wang Xiaoguang and Yang Rongli as a permanent home for their followers, whose numbers had soared to more than 50,000.

The couple, administrators at the provincial teachers' college, had been preaching in the region around the city of Linfen since 1992, establishing a network of three dozen communities meeting in improvised spaces such as factory dormitories and greenhouses. They also attracted thousands to tent revival meetings.

According to Bob Fu, Shanxi authorities grumbled as the church was being built last year, but did not try to stop work and offered few, if any, signs that an impending crackdown.

On a rainy Sunday in mid-September, some 400 police officers and hired thugs descended on more than a dozen church properties around Linfen, smashing doors and windows and hauling off computers, Bibles, and church funds, according to accounts posted online by church members and their allies.

Those accounts said worshippers who resisted were beaten, with dozens hospitalized with serious injuries.

Wang, Yang, and three other church leaders were convicted on Nov. 25 on charges including illegally occupying agricultural land and assembling a crowd to disrupt traffic. Yang, 51, received a seven-year sentence, while Wang, 56, and the others received terms of three to four years. Five others were sentenced without trial to two years in a labor camp.

Other church leaders have gone into hiding.

Courts, police and government officials in Linfen refused to comment on the claims of violence and persecution. A local Communist Party spokesman said only that the case centered on the mega-church's lack of planning approval.

"We have always supported and allowed everybody to believe in religion. But the church itself is an illegally constructed building," said the spokesman, who would give only his surname, Wang.

A lawyer for Wang and Yang, Li Fangping, said the church had applied for permits to build the church from the local religious affairs bureau and the land use authority, but received no reply.

Almost three months after the crackdown, people in and around Linfen refuse to discuss the church, and police vehicles remain parked on virtually every corner of the neighborhood where the Golden Lamp is located.

rgcraig
12-16-2009, 10:38 AM
Wow!

And, we feel so safe and smug in our own little world. This could be us in the future.

Apocrypha
12-16-2009, 10:40 AM
As Winston Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

Pressing-On
12-16-2009, 10:58 AM
Wow!

And, we feel so safe and smug in our own little world. This could be us in the future.

I can see this happening here. I was reading that a town in Tennessee wasn't allowed, for the first time in 25 years (?) to read the story of the Nativity.

Someone calls and threatens to sue and the city can't afford the lawsuit. That's a trend taking place.

Now Obama and his wife decide to have a "non-religious" Christmas. Someone said, "The Obama's can decide how they want to celebrate Christmas with their own personal family but, they are in the White House."

We don't need the trappings but, it sets a trending precedent.

Dedicated Mind
12-16-2009, 10:59 AM
interesting article, thanks for posting.

ManOfWord
12-16-2009, 12:56 PM
I've been to China and taught there and the number in the "underground" church is probably closer to 90 million. If fact I had a dream last night that I was in Korea and was fleeing the soldiers who were cracking down on Christianity. Strange timing for this story. Planning on going to China to teach again maybe in April or May. :D

Monterrey
12-16-2009, 05:22 PM
Very interesting,

Good thread, thanks for posting it.

Somehow or other we get feeling like we are immune here in North America from persecution, yet it very well could be coming.

stasis
12-25-2009, 09:40 AM
Good. I hope the mega churches in America get shut down. Why? Because they LIE about what Jesus said and twist his words in order to draw big crowds (tickle people's ears with false doctrine) required to become 'mega'.

By the way, the reason why it seems there "isnt' persecution" in America, is because no one in America (or very few) are preaching any truth at all. America is today's Babylon, and our false churches run around the planet spreading their false doctrine, bearing false witness of Christ. ANYWHERE you preach truth there will be persecution. Absence of persecution indicates absence of truth, while presence of persecution is not necessarily indicative of truth.

"Woe unto you when all men speak well of you, for so did their fathers to the false prophets."

Trouvere
12-25-2009, 10:01 AM
My husband was in China starting underground churches for three years. The big public churches that you see are government controlled and they make everyone attending register their names. People are beaten or teeth knocked out or killed for disobeying Gov.
sanctions. In the past Christian leaders have been jailed, tortured or killed for the gospel there. They don't play. They mean it.

Sister Alvear
12-25-2009, 02:06 PM
My brother in law works for the Voice of Martyrs...Dear ones we realy need to be aware what is happening around the world.

Praxeas
12-25-2009, 02:30 PM
Good. I hope the mega churches in America get shut down. Why? Because they LIE about what Jesus said and twist his words in order to draw big crowds (tickle people's ears with false doctrine) required to become 'mega'.

By the way, the reason why it seems there "isnt' persecution" in America, is because no one in America (or very few) are preaching any truth at all. America is today's Babylon, and our false churches run around the planet spreading their false doctrine, bearing false witness of Christ. ANYWHERE you preach truth there will be persecution. Absence of persecution indicates absence of truth, while presence of persecution is not necessarily indicative of truth.

"Woe unto you when all men speak well of you, for so did their fathers to the false prophets."


I see...so if we DID have persecution in America it would be because there is truth...however persecution is not indicative of having the truth...talk about confusion and contradiction

Praxeas
12-25-2009, 02:31 PM
My husband was in China starting underground churches for three years. The big public churches that you see are government controlled and they make everyone attending register their names. People are beaten or teeth knocked out or killed for disobeying Gov.
sanctions. In the past Christian leaders have been jailed, tortured or killed for the gospel there. They don't play. They mean it.
Was this a government sanctioned church? They must have done something wrong (or right) to get beat up

stasis
01-18-2010, 07:56 PM
I see...so if we DID have persecution in America it would be because there is truth...however persecution is not indicative of having the truth...talk about confusion and contradiction

No, I never typed the words "If we had persecution in America it would be because there is truth".

Here's what I said: "the reason why it seems there isn't persecution in America, is because no one in America (or very few) are preaching any truth at all."

Perhaps I can walk you through this.

Falun Gong practitioners are persecuted in China, unto death. Do they believe Jesus died on the cross for the sins of his people, and that Christ is the only way to heaven? No. Therefore, persecution alone is not indicative of truth.

However, it is written in 2 Timothy 3:12 "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution". Therefore living godly after the example of Christ results in persecution.

The fact that there is an apparent absence of persecution of America's 'Mega Churches', and very little persecution in general in this nation which can by no stretch be called a 'Christian nation', is itself an indictment of it's 'churches'.

Understand now?

With as many liars, thieves and murderers in political office, yet we have no apparent persecution of people who are supposedly 'living godly in Christ Jesus'? That's because they aren't, and the sad thing is, they don't even realize they aren't because the twisting of God's Word runs so deep.

Also, if someone gets persecuted for telling some Arabs that Jesus was a cross-dressing lesbian, or some Chinese they can 'get saved' by walking down an aisle and having an emotional experience or releasing tension, are those 'preachers' suffering for righteousness sake? No. They're suffering in the same category as Falun Gong practitioners: some people getting mowed over by a corrupt government for reasons other than truth.

Jason B
01-18-2010, 10:48 PM
I see...so if we DID have persecution in America it would be because there is truth...however persecution is not indicative of having the truth...talk about confusion and contradiction

my thoughts exactly.

I'm assuming the mega church wasn't a oneness pentecostal church. And I'm also assuming the great revival in China is not primarily oneness pentecostal. So is it all just false doctrine, are they just a bunch of hell bound pagans?

Sadly, some in the comfort of American Christianity, would answer, yes, they are hell bound. And why? because of how they dress

Trouvere
01-19-2010, 02:03 PM
Was this a government sanctioned church? They must have done something wrong (or right) to get beat up

Brother we are not the kind of church doctrine in China that gets government sanctioned. You cannot preach what we preach as salvation in China and be a government sanctioned church. They knock your teeth out and more if they can
for the true Gospel in China.

DeepThinker
01-26-2010, 08:46 PM
Apoc said: "The closure of what may be China's first mega-church is the most visible sign that the communist government is determined to rein in the rapid spread of Christianity, with a crackdown in recent months that church leaders call the harshest in years."

This is a sign that the government is desperate. It means they are losing control. They think that if they hurt Christians that this would be an example for every Christian to stop being a Christian. But like all past godly movements the more persecution the more the Church expands. China is changing and some of their leaders are still operating from an old school Mao mentality. They will change, it's inevitable. Communism will come down in that country. And God forbid if it ever should be like the United States of America, arrogant, self centered and misguided.

Aquila
02-01-2010, 11:52 PM
I pray that Christians in China don't buy into the American vision of mega-churching. If they do the revival will stagnate. They are doing tremendously well with their smaller gatherings that spread and multiply rapidly. They must remember... rabbits bread faster than elephants.