News Flash! Pastor Reba Rambo opens Gay CHurch!!!

[KWSS1976]

Talking about throwing a monkey wrench into somthing..LOL

[RevDWW]

I still find it funny that there can be a Gay Pentecostal church not to add to the fact they can speak in tongues be baptised and still be gay..LOL I myself really don't care people can do what they want to do I just find it so funny..That the speaking in tongues only is supposed to happen to the born again christian but yet we tell gays they are not christians and are going to hell because of there lifestyle. So I would not be so quick to put them in Hell..LOL

There several belief systems that believe in "speaking in tongues" that are non-Christian. But I don't find it all that funny.......:thumbsup

[KWSS1976]

I am just making it a point that mabey people don't have it figured out like they think they do and this is a curve ball to make them think.. How can you be a Non-christian and speak in tongues why would God give this to you if you are not a Christian..

[RevDWW]

I don't see why God would fill a person with the holyghost eveidence by speaking in tongues if they are still going to be gay afterwards but it happens so I guess some gays want be in hell afterall..LOL

I would believe that tongues are not the only evidence of a Spirit filled life. John the Baptist said to "bring forth works meet for repentance". In the Weaver Paraphrase "Your actions, attitudes, and affections should match up to your repentance" or "Show me you are repentant by living a sin overcoming life"

[RevDWW]

I am just making it a point that mabey people don't have it figured out like they think they do and this is a curve ball to make them think.. How can you be a Non-christian and speak in tongues why would God give this to you if you are not a Christian..

Perhaps it doesn't always come from God?

[KWSS1976]

Thats my point exactlly I was pointing to the holyghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues...I believe also that you can have the holyghost and not speak in tongues.. The evidence theroy just does not fly with me because of this very reason that we are discussing.

[RevDWW]

Thats my point exactlly I was pointing to the holyghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues...I believe also that you can have the holyghost and not speak in tongues.. The evidence theroy just does not fly with me because of this very reason that we are discussing.

Because some artist can make a skillful reproduction of the Mona Lisa that might fool many does not negate the value of the original or the talent of it's Creator.

[THX4GRACE]

True, God is no respecter of persons. Seems you have read Acts, but continue to read Romans. He will forgive those that ask, but I do believe He wants us to forsake our sinful nature and follow Him. Can a "gay" lifestyle be promoted as anything but sinful from a biblical perspective?

I've read all of the scriptures which are "alleged" to speak against homosexuality. In fact none of them truely speak against it. The word "homosexual" didn't even exist in the original Greek or Hebrew language. There are many good books on the Bible and Homosexuality and What the Bible Really Has To Say About Homosexuality. Very good reading, and once read them, you will never look at the so called gay "clobber passages" quite the same.

[RevDWW]

I've read all of the scriptures which are "alleged" to speak against homosexuality. In fact none of them truely speak against it. The word "homosexual" didn't even exist in the original Greek or Hebrew language. There are many good books on the Bible and Homosexuality and What the Bible Really Has To Say About Homosexuality. Very good reading, and once read them, you will never look at the so called gay "clobber passages" quite the same.

I think you are confused.

[KWSS1976]

check out the link...

http://www.gotquestions.org/Sodom-and-Gomorrah.html

but still how can god give a gay person the holyghost and they still be gay....

[RevDWW]

check out the link...

http://www.gotquestions.org/Sodom-and-Gomorrah.html

but still how can god give a gay person the holyghost and they still be gay....

Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
Gen 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
Gen 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.


This "know" is the same as when Adam "knew" Eve and she conceived. Lot called it wickedness.

[THX4GRACE]

check out the link...

http://www.gotquestions.org/Sodom-and-Gomorrah.html

but still how can god give a gay person the holyghost and they still be gay....

Do some real research...don't just flip to some leftwing or rightwing website that was conceived by such. Look at the original Greek and Hebrew.

[KWSS1976]

THX4GRACE Well tell us about the original greek and hebrew for what happened at Sodom and gomorrah why it was destoryed....since you know so much about greek and hebrew

[KWSS1976]

Awful quiet in here now...

[Sister Alvear]

God never planned for two men or two women to live together as man and wife...

[Sam]

I am just making it a point that mabey people don't have it figured out like they think they do and this is a curve ball to make them think.. How can you be a Non-christian and speak in tongues why would God give this to you if you are not a Christian..


The Holy Ghost Baptism and gifts of the Spirit are not given to perfect people because there are no perfect people. The Holy Ghost Baptism and gifts of the Spirit are "gifts"-- not rewards.

[Sam]

THX4GRACE Well tell us about the original greek and hebrew for what happened at Sodom and gomorrah why it was destoryed....since you know so much about greek and hebrew

Ezekiel 16:49-50 tell us why Sodom was judged and destroyed.

[shawndell]

My mom pRayed at the alter with the Rambos,and yes I even remember those hairdos!!My mom had me stand on the kitchen chair so she could put my hair in a huge bun and I cried every time !!!!

[Timmy]

Luke 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

:hmmm

[THX4GRACE]

It's always good to use scripture to interpret scripture.

The sins of Sodom and Gomorrah are listed in Ezekiel 16:49
Ezekiel 16:49 (New International Reader's Version)

49 "Here is the sin your sister Sodom committed. She and her daughters were proud. They ate too much. They were not concerned about others. They did not help those who were poor and in need.

[THX4GRACE]

God never planned for two men or two women to live together as man and wife...

I agree............ I don't think it was God's original plan for two men or two women to ever live together as "man and wife." He probably had something more equitable in mind like Co-Husbands or Co-Wives...who knows...Unfortunately, Eve "the woman" went against God's original plan and single handedly altered the whole course of history. It's all her fault that the world isn't perfect.

[Jesusname]

Hi Folks,

Just want to say this, we should never believe what he said or she said. Yes Reba and Dony's church are open to welcoming the homosexuals, but that does not mean they advocate that lifestyle.Jesus hung out with sinners, but he did not partake in what they were doing or their frame of mind.

I think we should really be mindful of this.

[budrok]

We need to start a new movement of Gay Reforming, God can still break chains the problem is we are not reaching them with that message only that God Hates Homosexual. God doesn't hate homosexuals, He hates the sin of Homosexuality. God hate's chemical dependency, fornication, chemical dependency, etc. Each of these are sin, but GOD, JESUS he loves the sinner and wants to bring them reconsiliation. We as Apostolics need to change this course and convert and show the reforming power of Jesus.

[NorCal]

We need to start a new movement of Gay Reforming, God can still break chains the problem is we are not reaching them with that message only that God Hates Homosexual. God doesn't hate homosexuals, He hates the sin of Homosexuality. God hate's chemical dependency, fornication, chemical dependency, etc. Each of these are sin, but GOD, JESUS he loves the sinner and wants to bring them reconsiliation. We as Apostolics need to change this course and convert and show the reforming power of Jesus.
Lost your train of thought? Repetitive list? :-p

On a serious note:
Anyone who "Gay Bashes" is not of Christ. You can take a stand against homosexuality and not "Gay Bash".

Hear of Israel the LORD your God is ONE LORD, and thou shalt love the LORD with all they heart, soul, mind and Strength and thou shalt love they neighbor as thyself. - Jesus Christ.

[On The Wheel]

It's always good to use scripture to interpret scripture.

The sins of Sodom and Gomorrah are listed in Ezekiel 16:49
Ezekiel 16:49 (New International Reader's Version)

49 "Here is the sin your sister Sodom committed. She and her daughters were proud. They ate too much. They were not concerned about others. They did not help those who were poor and in need.

Kind of sounds like a lot of Apostolic churches I've been in. And they're not dead. At least I don't think so.:heeheehee

[mfblume]

Ezekiel 16:49-50 tell us why Sodom was judged and destroyed.

Jude 1:7 KJV Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

[mfblume]

The Holy Ghost Baptism and gifts of the Spirit are not given to perfect people because there are no perfect people. The Holy Ghost Baptism and gifts of the Spirit are "gifts"-- not rewards.

Amen. The Spirit is come not because we are perfect and have all truth. It comes to LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH. We would not need it if we were perfect.

[mfblume]

I don't see why God would fill a person with the holyghost eveidence by speaking in tongues if they are still going to be gay afterwards but it happens so I guess some gays want be in hell afterall..LOL

First let me say that gay bashing is wrong.

And now let me say that some people will go to hell who had the Holy Ghost.

The Spirit is not given because we are perfect, but to lead us to all truth. It's up to us how much we allow the Spirit to successfully lead us. He will not force us to do right. We can have the Holy Ghost and never serve God the way we should. Think of Israel led by the Pillar of fire in the wilderness. Did the presence of the fire mean tall they did was fine?

The Spirit does not leave us as soon as we sin. He is longsuffering. The whole concept that that proposes that whatever state someone is in when they get the Holy Ghost determines that their activities are okay is extreme error. And if you base your entire concept of initial evidence "theory" on that mistaken concept, then seeing your basis as your reason can only encourage those who believe in evidence "theory" moreso about their "theory".

PS: Check out: http://www.gcmwatch.com/5125/dottie-rambo-manager-sets-the-record-straight-on-late-singers-beliefs

Dottie Rambo manager sets the record straight on late singer’s beliefs

Dottie Rambo's stand against her daughter's church was a stand against inclusionism which tolerated homosexuality as not being a sin. So it was not as though Reba allowed gays to attend and did not condone their lilfestyle.

[trialedbyfire]

First let me say that gay bashing is wrong.

And now let me say that some people will go to hell who had the Holy Ghost.

The Spirit is not given because we are perfect, but to lead us to all truth. It's up to us how much we allow the Spirit to successfully lead us. He will not force us to do right. We can have the Holy Ghost and never serve God the way we should. Think of Israel led by the Pillar of fire in the wilderness. Did the presence of the fire mean tall they did was fine?

The Spirit does not leave us as soon as we sin. He is longsuffering. The whole concept that that proposes that whatever state someone is in when they get the Holy Ghost determines that their activities are okay is extreme error. And if you base your entire concept of initial evidence "theory" on that mistaken concept, then seeing your basis as your reason can only encourage those who believe in evidence "theory" moreso about their "theory".

PS: Check out: http://www.gcmwatch.com/5125/dottie-rambo-manager-sets-the-record-straight-on-late-singers-beliefs

Dottie Rambo manager sets the record straight on late singer’s beliefs

Dottie Rambo's stand against her daughter's church was a stand against inclusionism which tolerated homosexuality as not being a sin. So it was not as though Reba allowed gays to attend and did not condone their lilfestyle.

Pastor Blume, I just want you to know that reading that made me cry out "Hallelujah!" and "Thank you Jesus!" Indeed the spirit is longsuffering, I thank God Christ was patient with me even when I struggled to live holy. God is awesome.

[RandyWayne]

Pastor Blume, I just want you to know that reading that made me cry out "Hallelujah!" and "Thank you Jesus!" Indeed the spirit is longsuffering, I thank God Christ was patient with me even when I struggled to live holy. God is awesome.

Mega Dittos

[AmericanAngel]

First let me say that gay bashing is wrong.

And now let me say that some people will go to hell who had the Holy Ghost.

The Spirit is not given because we are perfect, but to lead us to all truth. It's up to us how much we allow the Spirit to successfully lead us. He will not force us to do right. We can have the Holy Ghost and never serve God the way we should. Think of Israel led by the Pillar of fire in the wilderness. Did the presence of the fire mean tall they did was fine?

The Spirit does not leave us as soon as we sin. He is longsuffering. The whole concept that that proposes that whatever state someone is in when they get the Holy Ghost determines that their activities are okay is extreme error. And if you base your entire concept of initial evidence "theory" on that mistaken concept, then seeing your basis as your reason can only encourage those who believe in evidence "theory" moreso about their "theory".

PS: Check out: http://www.gcmwatch.com/5125/dottie-rambo-manager-sets-the-record-straight-on-late-singers-beliefs

Dottie Rambo manager sets the record straight on late singer’s beliefs

Dottie Rambo's stand against her daughter's church was a stand against inclusionism which tolerated homosexuality as not being a sin. So it was not as though Reba allowed gays to attend and did not condone their lilfestyle.

:highfive
agreed!
But,....when having a conversation with a practicing homosexual or those that are straight but agree/allow this lifestyle,(which I have had) there becomes the argument that we are homfobes because we say "love the sinner, not the sin"; and what u have quoted above . They will argue our thoughts & feelings on this, saying, "you say that, but you really mean that your are(homofobic, or racist or whatever).
I becomes a matter of convincing "them" that we love them and at the same time do not embrace their lifestyle. So because we don't embrace their lifestyle, we are liers and hypocrites. Its a ficious cycle. They say, "but doesn't Jesus love homosexuals? And then they start quoting scriptures to back up Gods love and acceptance of this. ...sigh...

It really seems almost better to not say anything, till they ask you. And if they ask how u feel about it, by this time you have a friendship built and they have a respect and trust of you. That's when God can plant a seed. Forcing a seed to be planted before the flower bed is made or the garden is tilled and fertilized, cause the parable effect on that persons life:the sower Luke 8:4-15 (vs12-Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved.)

soooo didn't mean to start anything...

[trialedbyfire]

:highfive
agreed!
But,....when having a conversation with a practicing homosexual or those that are straight but agree/allow this lifestyle,(which I have had) there becomes the argument that we are homfobes because we say "love the sinner, not the sin"; and what u have quoted above . They will argue our thoughts & feelings on this, saying, "you say that, but you really mean that your are(homofobic, or racist or whatever).
I becomes a matter of convincing "them" that we love them and at the same time do not embrace their lifestyle. So because we don't embrace their lifestyle, we are liers and hypocrites. Its a ficious cycle. They say, "but doesn't Jesus love homosexuals? And then they start quoting scriptures to back up Gods love and acceptance of this. ...sigh...

It really seems almost better to not say anything, till they ask you. And if they ask how u feel about it, by this time you have a friendship built and they have a respect and trust of you. That's when God can plant a seed. Forcing a seed to be planted before the flower bed is made or the garden is tilled and fertilized, cause the parable effect on that persons life:the sower Luke 8:4-15 (vs12-Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved.)

soooo didn't mean to start anything...

It's a prideful movement of them that's getting stronger and stronger. That agenda is strong and the spirit is ruthless and it's attacking and taking whole cities, creeping into the school system, and hold hostage the media and public life. They've become the poster child for "tolerance" and "hate speech". It's a tool of the enemy. There are lines starting to be drawn in the sand, that's what's happening. We've just got to get as many people from "the middle" to "the Lord's side" as quick as we can before the lines are solidified and permanent. I still believe God turns people over to reprobate minds, and I believe society is going in as strange and ugly direction. Many have already fooled themselves into believing there sin (whatever it is) is okay, acceptable, and "just the way they are", and God HAS to accept them. He doesn't. He's God all by himself. He didn't have to even accept me, a wretched sinner myself, but he did, he cleansed me, and he changed me and delivered me from my sin. If you don't want to be changed, you don't want to be accepted. Period.

[AmericanAngel]

It's a prideful movement of them that's getting stronger and stronger. That agenda is strong and the spirit is ruthless and it's attacking and taking whole cities, creeping into the school system, and hold hostage the media and public life. They've become the poster child for "tolerance" and "hate speech". It's a tool of the enemy. There are lines starting to be drawn in the sand, that's what's happening. We've just got to get as many people from "the middle" to "the Lord's side" as quick as we can before the lines are solidified and permanent. I still believe God turns people over to reprobate minds, and I believe society is going in as strange and ugly direction. Many have already fooled themselves into believing there sin (whatever it is) is okay, acceptable, and "just the way they are", and God HAS to accept them. He doesn't. He's God all by himself. He didn't have to even accept me, a wretched sinner myself, but he did, he cleansed me, and he changed me and delivered me from my sin. If you don't want to be changed, you don't want to be accepted. Period.
Amen!

[Dordrecht]

Where do you guys get all this information?
I checked their website and saw nothing about being a gay church.
Are they connected to the Metropolitan Community "Churches" ???