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proudfather
06-15-2010, 01:23 PM
Here's a list of my favorite preachers:

Jonathan Alvear
Larry Booker
Ron Garrett
Wayne McClain
The late L.E.Westburg
The late G.R.Travis
D.C.Moody
Gary Howard

I love ultra conservative preachers. I'm sure this will be a popular post :)

Dedicated Mind
06-15-2010, 01:25 PM
james kilgore. period.

Jeffrey
06-15-2010, 01:27 PM
Here's a list of my favorite preachers:

Jonathan Alvear
Larry Booker
Ron Garrett
Wayne McClain
The late L.E.Westburg
The late G.R.Travis
D.C.Moody
Gary Howard

I love ultra conservative preachers. I'm sure this will be a popular post :)

Perhaps you should add John Wesley, Rev. Philipp Jakob Spencer, Rev. George Fox & Friends, Jonathan Edwards, Charles Finney and George Whitfield as well!

"I am of Paul! I am of Apollos!"

Jeffrey
06-15-2010, 01:29 PM
My list has changed over the years. I really don't have a list much these days. If I did, it would be men that added to my life over the years. I have favorite teachers, writers... favorites who inspire, exhort, favorites who serve, favorites who inspire me to be a better Christian.

As far as crafting a sermon... ProudFather probably wouldn't recognize any of the names on my list. You have a respectable list though. Very able speakers in that group.

RandyWayne
06-15-2010, 01:31 PM
Chuck Swindoll.

Timmy
06-15-2010, 01:33 PM
The Reverend Cleophus James.

http://www.log24.com/log/pix06B/061226-JamesBrown.jpg

seekerman
06-15-2010, 01:35 PM
Jesus

proudfather
06-15-2010, 01:43 PM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.

Brad Murphy
06-15-2010, 01:47 PM
Here's a list of my favorite preachers:

Jonathan Alvear
Larry Booker
Ron Garrett
Wayne McClain
The late L.E.Westburg
The late G.R.Travis
D.C.Moody
Gary Howard

I love ultra conservative preachers. I'm sure this will be a popular post :)

I'll never forget L.E. Westburg... he changed my life.

Praxeas
06-15-2010, 01:54 PM
Tony Evans

Sister Alvear
06-15-2010, 01:57 PM
Phil White
Joel Holmes
Bryan Taylor
Agnes Holmes
and many others

edjen01
06-15-2010, 01:59 PM
John Ortberg
Matt Chandler
David Fuller
Melvin Newland

Orthodoxy
06-15-2010, 02:31 PM
[contemporary preachers]

John Piper
Alistair Begg
Mike Bickle
C.J. Mahaney
Voddie Baucham

Jeffrey
06-15-2010, 03:02 PM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.

:grampa

pelathais
06-15-2010, 03:04 PM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.

:grampa

Yeah. It took "guts" - but he'd have been better served if he had taken his Bible along as well.

... just sayin'

deltaguitar
06-15-2010, 03:15 PM
John Ortberg
Matt Chandler
David Fuller
Melvin Newland

My wife and I went to Matt Chandler's church a couple weeks ago. One of the best services I have ever been in and Chandler didn't even preach. Maybe I just felt at home because it was the first Calvinist church service I had ever been in.

edjen01
06-15-2010, 03:45 PM
My wife and I went to Matt Chandler's church a couple weeks ago. One of the best services I have ever been in and Chandler didn't even preach. Maybe I just felt at home because it was the first Calvinist church service I had ever been in.

:toofunny

BeenThinkin
06-15-2010, 03:49 PM
Yeah. It took "guts" - but he'd have been better served if he had taken his Bible along as well.

... just sayin'



:thumbsup

Been Thinkin

seekerman
06-15-2010, 05:08 PM
Phil White
Joel Holmes
Bryan Taylor
Agnes Holmes
and many others

Ok, this explains your Jonesville connection. :)

Jack Shephard
06-15-2010, 07:08 PM
Damon Thompson
Mark McCool
Jentezn Franklin
Kevin Knudson
Anthony Mangun
GA Mangun
Louie Giglio
to name a few.

John Atkinson
06-15-2010, 07:43 PM
Robert Bayer (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Bayer%2C%20Robert&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Jonothan Alvear (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Alvear%2C%20Jonathan&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bill Berryhill (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Berryhill%2C%20Bill&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bob Gilstrap (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Gilstrap%2C%20Bob&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
George Glass, Sr (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Glass%20Sr%2C%20George&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
James Kilgore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20J%20-%20L/Kilgore%2C%20James&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Steve Pixler (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20M%20-%20P/Pixler%2C%20Steve&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
JD Sizemore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Sizemore%2C%20J.%20D&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
IH Terry (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Terry%2C%20I%20H&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)

many more besides
Sorry, nobody emerging here.....

Sister Alvear
06-15-2010, 08:16 PM
ok, this explains your jonesville connection. :)
brother taylor is my pastor...he used to pastor in arkansas when i was growing up...

notofworks
06-15-2010, 08:17 PM
Here's a list of my favorite preachers:

Jonathan Alvear
Larry Booker
Ron Garrett
Wayne McClain
The late L.E.Westburg
The late G.R.Travis
D.C.Moody
Gary Howard

I love ultra conservative preachers. I'm sure this will be a popular post :)


And herein lies the problem with religion....the creation is worshipped more than the Creator. Religion talks about its preachers more than its God.

notofworks
06-15-2010, 08:19 PM
This thread looks like I Corinthians Chapter 1.

Jack Shephard
06-15-2010, 08:57 PM
This thread looks like I Corinthians Chapter 1.

Whatever! You are just disappointed that you weren't listed here.






:razz

BeenThinkin
06-15-2010, 08:58 PM
This thread looks like I Corinthians Chapter 1.


Where you been NOW? This place has been dead! I've hoped for you and Miss Brattified would show up and start something, anything! Just get some life in AFF. :toofunny

BT

Sam
06-15-2010, 09:48 PM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.

guts?

some people might have used a different word

Sam
06-15-2010, 09:51 PM
Robert Bayer (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Bayer%2C%20Robert&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Jonothan Alvear (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Alvear%2C%20Jonathan&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bill Berryhill (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Berryhill%2C%20Bill&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bob Gilstrap (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Gilstrap%2C%20Bob&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
George Glass, Sr (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Glass%20Sr%2C%20George&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
James Kilgore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20J%20-%20L/Kilgore%2C%20James&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Steve Pixler (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20M%20-%20P/Pixler%2C%20Steve&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
JD Sizemore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Sizemore%2C%20J.%20D&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
IH Terry (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Terry%2C%20I%20H&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)

many more besides
Sorry, nobody emerging here.....

JD Sizemore?
You mean Joe David Sizemore in Cincinnati, OH?
He was my pastor for about 15 years.

a good man and a good preacher

Orthodoxy
06-15-2010, 09:57 PM
My wife and I went to Matt Chandler's church a couple weeks ago. One of the best services I have ever been in and Chandler didn't even preach. Maybe I just felt at home because it was the first Calvinist church service I had ever been in.

What was the service like?

Esther
06-15-2010, 10:04 PM
Robert Bayer (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Bayer%2C%20Robert&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Jonothan Alvear (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Alvear%2C%20Jonathan&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bill Berryhill (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Berryhill%2C%20Bill&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bob Gilstrap (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Gilstrap%2C%20Bob&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
George Glass, Sr (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Glass%20Sr%2C%20George&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
James Kilgore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20J%20-%20L/Kilgore%2C%20James&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Steve Pixler (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20M%20-%20P/Pixler%2C%20Steve&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
JD Sizemore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Sizemore%2C%20J.%20D&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
IH Terry (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Terry%2C%20I%20H&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)

many more besides
Sorry, nobody emerging here.....

Haven't seen or heard anything of him in a long time.

Jack Shephard
06-15-2010, 10:06 PM
Robert Bayer (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Bayer%2C%20Robert&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Jonothan Alvear (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Alvear%2C%20Jonathan&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bill Berryhill (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20A%20-%20C/Berryhill%2C%20Bill&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Bob Gilstrap (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Gilstrap%2C%20Bob&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
George Glass, Sr (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20D%20-%20I/Glass%20Sr%2C%20George&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
James Kilgore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20J%20-%20L/Kilgore%2C%20James&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
Steve Pixler (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20M%20-%20P/Pixler%2C%20Steve&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
JD Sizemore (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Sizemore%2C%20J.%20D&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)
IH Terry (http://goodpreaching.com/?p=Preachers%20R%20-%20Y/Terry%2C%20I%20H&option=com_zina&Itemid=58)

many more besides
Sorry, nobody emerging here.....

He was a good one too!

Sam
06-15-2010, 10:12 PM
How do you guys know Joe David Sizemore?
He was my pastor for about 15 years.

Jack Shephard
06-15-2010, 10:31 PM
How do you guys know Joe David Sizemore?
He was my pastor for about 15 years.

I knew him because he ued to come to TN to preach for the McCool's a lot. I knew the Sizemore's and the Zoz's back in their ALJC days. I thought we had talked about this before. I loved the Covanent Choir, still an old cd somewhere.

crakjak
06-15-2010, 10:37 PM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.

No, it just took bold ignorance.

seekerman
06-15-2010, 10:43 PM
This would probably be interesting to anyone who attended an ALJC church long long ago....

http://www.aljc.org/history/

John Atkinson
06-16-2010, 04:11 AM
JD Sizemore?
You mean Joe David Sizemore in Cincinnati, OH?
He was my pastor for about 15 years.

a good man and a good preacheryep, thyats him. I only seen him preach once at am aljc general conference, or maybe a youth conference in 1991 or 2. The guy was the master of object lessons.

John Atkinson
06-16-2010, 04:13 AM
Haven't seen or heard anything of him in a long time.
I ran into him at the general conference in 2005, I forget where he is pastoring, ohio i'm rhinking.

John Atkinson
06-16-2010, 04:15 AM
And herein lies the problem with religion....the creation is worshipped more than the Creator. Religion talks about its preachers more than its God.

You confuse appreciation with worship.

John Atkinson
06-16-2010, 04:21 AM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.Too bad nobody had the guts to sit him down. There is a time and place for preaching stuff with no biblical foundation... never and nowhere.

notofworks
06-16-2010, 06:16 AM
Where you been NOW? This place has been dead! I've hoped for you and Miss Brattified would show up and start something, anything! Just get some life in AFF. :toofunny

BT


That's what I'm trying to do!!! I showed up and called everyone idolators, so I'm trying my best!!:)

notofworks
06-16-2010, 06:22 AM
You confuse appreciation with worship.


No, I don't think so. I've never seen a thread here titled, "What do you "appreciate" most about Jesus?" And let's face it...camp meetings and conferences like "In Spite of the Times", "Landmark", and General Conference" are all about fancy preaching. You tell me....do more leave those meetings saying, "Wow, what a preacher", or "Wow, what a God"?

I think the answer is easy.

Meanwhile, I've been to several conferences in the "Seeker" genre. It's comprised completely of strategizing, planning, and sharing, about how to reach our communities and bring people to Jesus.

The pentecostal conferences? It seems to me it's all about the preacher.

The Lemon
06-16-2010, 06:24 AM
Well..there are alot but if I list them from top down I would say:

Jerry Wayne Dillon
Richard VanSant
James Scott
Chester Wright
JT Pugh

And for the record, its not idolatry to give honor to whom honor is due, I see it as giving God the Glory for putting His hand and call on these lives to make a difference in others lives. Naturally all glory belongs to Jesus...and thank God for His call and His burden for us all.

pelathais
06-16-2010, 06:58 AM
I'll never forget L.E. Westburg... he changed my life.

ouch!

He managed to touch many lives over the years. It's hard to imagine what might have been if he had never been around.

pelathais
06-16-2010, 07:09 AM
No, I don't think so. I've never seen a thread here titled, "What do you "appreciate" most about Jesus?" And let's face it...camp meetings and conferences like "In Spite of the Times", "Landmark", and General Conference" are all about fancy preaching. You tell me....do more leave those meetings saying, "Wow, what a preacher", or "Wow, what a God"?

I think the answer is easy.

Meanwhile, I've been to several conferences in the "Seeker" genre. It's comprised completely of strategizing, planning, and sharing, about how to reach our communities and bring people to Jesus.

The pentecostal conferences? It seems to me it's all about the preacher.

There is a tremendous feeling of insignificance within our ranks. We've always been "the other guys" and "the ones from the other side of the tracks."

To make up for that we hold these pageants designed to assuage our egos. By puffing up the evening's speaker we actually are puffing up ourselves. The only reason this culture has been allowed to persist is because it inflates the self worth of the attendees.

And even when the preacher "has guts" and "preaches it hard" we rally around that by puffing out our chests and loudly complaining after service how "the liberals" and "the -fill in the blank-" crowd has "let down so much" that we need to "hear some fire" from the pulpit.

The culture is self perpetuating in a sense, but like all such carnal exercises it too is doomed to pass just as surely as the grass withers and the flowers fade.



Isaiah 40:7-11:

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.

proudfather
06-16-2010, 07:22 AM
And herein lies the problem with religion....the creation is worshipped more than the Creator. Religion talks about its preachers more than its God.

I'm not claiming to be "of" any of these men. I merely enjoy their preaching style. I don't agree with everything they say, but I enjoy their preaching. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

:spit

proudfather
06-16-2010, 07:24 AM
No, I don't think so. I've never seen a thread here titled, "What do you "appreciate" most about Jesus?" And let's face it...camp meetings and conferences like "In Spite of the Times", "Landmark", and General Conference" are all about fancy preaching. You tell me....do more leave those meetings saying, "Wow, what a preacher", or "Wow, what a God"?

I think the answer is easy.

Meanwhile, I've been to several conferences in the "Seeker" genre. It's comprised completely of strategizing, planning, and sharing, about how to reach our communities and bring people to Jesus.

The pentecostal conferences? It seems to me it's all about the preacher.

Right, and Christmas is all about the tree. "Oh Christmas tree/Oh Christmas tree...how lovely are thy branches."

:ursofunny

Sister Alvear
06-16-2010, 08:29 AM
There are many good preachers in our ranks....It is THE PREACHER we want to bring to the people....

Consapostolic1
06-16-2010, 09:01 AM
Anthony Mangun(LA)
Cody Marks(CA)
Donald Lance(TN)
Doug White(TX)
Kenneth Bow(WA)
Myles Young(CA)
Nathaniel Wilson(CA)
Nona Freeman(RIP)
Sam Emory(CA)
Steve Pixler(TX)

Ferd
06-16-2010, 09:40 AM
I'll never forget L.E. Westburg... he changed my life.

...at first i giggled. then I was sad...

Sorry Brad.

Jack Shephard
06-16-2010, 11:15 AM
There is a tremendous feeling of insignificance within our ranks. We've always been "the other guys" and "the ones from the other side of the tracks."

To make up for that we hold these pageants designed to assuage our egos. By puffing up the evening's speaker we actually are puffing up ourselves. The only reason this culture has been allowed to persist is because it inflates the self worth of the attendees.

And even when the preacher "has guts" and "preaches it hard" we rally around that by puffing out our chests and loudly complaining after service how "the liberals" and "the -fill in the blank-" crowd has "let down so much" that we need to "hear some fire" from the pulpit.

The culture is self perpetuating in a sense, but like all such carnal exercises it too is doomed to pass just as surely as the grass withers and the flowers fade.



Isaiah 40:7-11:

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.


Very good assesment. You are correct as usual.

Tommy Darling
06-16-2010, 11:21 AM
I'm just a rookie here, but here is my list:

Bro. J. Godair
Bro. Robert Davis
Bro. Greg Riggen
Bro. Vaughn Morton

And many more.

RandyWayne
06-16-2010, 11:22 AM
Right, and Christmas is all about the tree. "Oh Christmas tree/Oh Christmas tree...how lovely are thy branches."

:ursofunny

Or "I'm proud to be a Pentecostal". Or even "Don't bob your hair" which according to Caston, has people running the isles when it is sung.

Timmy
06-16-2010, 11:47 AM
Or "I'm proud to be a Pentecostal". Or even "Don't bob your hair" which according to Caston, has people running the isles when it is sung.

Isles like Jamaica, for instance?

http://www.jamaican-slang.com/wp-content/damian-marley1.jpg

LadyRev
06-16-2010, 11:47 AM
For whatever its worth, I attended Because of the Times (someone else referred to it as In Spite of the Times...) from 1988 through 2005. Never missed a conference until I moved back to WI and distance and a new job made it impossible to go.

Although I have many favorite preachers, this conference always pushed me outside my comfort zone. It was always about prayer and winning souls and reaching out to those in our community. I always left changed and challenged. It wasn't about being entertained or rooting for your favorite preacher.

Although it was Paul that said "follow me as I follow Christ". Why didn't Paul just say "follow Christ" and leave himself out of the picture? BAD PAUL! Shame on him for referencing himself! What nerve to ask people to follow him! BAD BAD BAD!

Jeffrey
06-16-2010, 01:26 PM
For whatever its worth, I attended Because of the Times (someone else referred to it as In Spite of the Times...) from 1988 through 2005. Never missed a conference until I moved back to WI and distance and a new job made it impossible to go.

Although I have many favorite preachers, this conference always pushed me outside my comfort zone. It was always about prayer and winning souls and reaching out to those in our community. I always left changed and challenged. It wasn't about being entertained or rooting for your favorite preacher.

Although it was Paul that said "follow me as I follow Christ". Why didn't Paul just say "follow Christ" and leave himself out of the picture? BAD PAUL! Shame on him for referencing himself! What nerve to ask people to follow him! BAD BAD BAD!


Follow his example, as long as it is Christ's example. Imitate me as I imitate Christ. The Apostle was teaching specific things to the churches. Jesus also asked us to "take up our cross and follow Him." The word "follow" has about five different meanings, all bringing different connotations.

Do we believe that today "men of God" have the same authority as the Super Apostles, namely Paul himself?

LadyRev
06-16-2010, 02:21 PM
Follow his example, as long as it is Christ's example. Imitate me as I imitate Christ. The Apostle was teaching specific things to the churches. Jesus also asked us to "take up our cross and follow Him." The word "follow" has about five different meanings, all bringing different connotations.

Do we believe that today "men of God" have the same authority as the Super Apostles, namely Paul himself?

What I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with having a favorite preacher(s) and following those preachers as they follow Christ.

Unless a person is worshipping their favorite preacher, putting a man ahead of God, theres nothing wrong with having favorites.

Jack Shephard
06-16-2010, 07:58 PM
For whatever its worth, I attended Because of the Times (someone else referred to it as In Spite of the Times...) from 1988 through 2005. Never missed a conference until I moved back to WI and distance and a new job made it impossible to go.

Although I have many favorite preachers, this conference always pushed me outside my comfort zone. It was always about prayer and winning souls and reaching out to those in our community. I always left changed and challenged. It wasn't about being entertained or rooting for your favorite preacher.

Although it was Paul that said "follow me as I follow Christ". Why didn't Paul just say "follow Christ" and leave himself out of the picture? BAD PAUL! Shame on him for referencing himself! What nerve to ask people to follow him! BAD BAD BAD!

It is safe to say that Paul might have been more humble than some of the leaders we have now. I am guessing but not sure if Paul needed the Mercedes or BWM equivalent of a Camel. Not saying that preachers having nice cars are a bad thing, but I am saying that the humility of Paul is much different than what we see today, IMO. To follow a leader today is dangerous and it shouldn't be. If I were a leader I would say "Follow Christ with me though I may be a leader I am only following the real leader." I am sure that if some ministers today said "Follow me..." they would mean listen to everything I say and follow it cause I am the leader. That is not healthy for the leader or the ones being led. BOTT might have been great for you and others, but not all people got what you got. I have been to NYC and others and all I heard was about the masterful messages and the person that delivered it. Just Saying....

Jack Shephard
06-16-2010, 08:00 PM
What I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with having a favorite preacher(s) and following those preachers as they follow Christ.

Unless a person is worshipping their favorite preacher, putting a man ahead of God, theres nothing wrong with having favorites.

I agree with your above statement, but how often does it stop at just liking the style and delivery of the person? Many times it progresses to be "I want to be like Bro. or Sis. So-and-so because of a,b,c,d reasons." That is dangerous, IMO. I like AM and his ministry but there is no way I want to be like him. To try and be like someone else is to vacate the real you that you are to be.

notofworks
06-16-2010, 08:12 PM
There is a tremendous feeling of insignificance within our ranks. We've always been "the other guys" and "the ones from the other side of the tracks."

To make up for that we hold these pageants designed to assuage our egos. By puffing up the evening's speaker we actually are puffing up ourselves. The only reason this culture has been allowed to persist is because it inflates the self worth of the attendees.

And even when the preacher "has guts" and "preaches it hard" we rally around that by puffing out our chests and loudly complaining after service how "the liberals" and "the -fill in the blank-" crowd has "let down so much" that we need to "hear some fire" from the pulpit.

The culture is self perpetuating in a sense, but like all such carnal exercises it too is doomed to pass just as surely as the grass withers and the flowers fade.



Isaiah 40:7-11:

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.



Very well said, as is everything else you say.

This all became VERY obvious when I became entrenched in the Christian world that's outside pentecostalism. It was then I realized just how much performance there is that is labeled as preaching.

Sam
06-17-2010, 06:44 AM
I knew him because he ued to come to TN to preach for the McCool's a lot. I knew the Sizemore's and the Zoz's back in their ALJC days. I thought we had talked about this before. I loved the Covanent Choir, still an old cd somewhere.

Last I knew David Sizemore was pastoring a UPC church in Florida. I haven't seen him for many years. He was a very humble and loving man. I'm sure he has a pastor's/shepherd's heart.

Gary Zoz pastors Christ Community Church here in the Cincinnati area. My wife and I visited there once a couple of years ago. Gary Zoz is a good guy. I think very highly of him. Actually, I ought to get there more often for fellowship.

Sam
06-17-2010, 06:47 AM
ouch!

He managed to touch many lives over the years. It's hard to imagine what might have been if he had never been around.

Well, I never knew the man.
All I know about him is the AS which is also identified with him.
If that is the type person he really was, I think we'd have been better off without him.

Narrow Is The Way
10-21-2011, 09:18 PM
I'm just a rookie here, but here is my list:

Bro. J. Godair
Bro. Robert Davis
Bro. Greg Riggen
Bro. Vaughn Morton

And many more.

That is a Great list.

seekerman
10-21-2011, 09:47 PM
Granted I'm not around 'apostolics' that much anymore, but I never hear or read about rev. johnny james.

Is he still around?

Scott Hutchinson
10-21-2011, 09:59 PM
http://www.johnnyjames.net/about__johnny_james

Scott Hutchinson
10-21-2011, 10:03 PM
Here is a brother whom I enjoy listening to.He has gone to his reward.

http://pastormeyer.org/

RandyWayne
10-21-2011, 10:50 PM
I've always liked Chuck Swindol.

Amanah
10-22-2011, 05:52 AM
PT McClure
Anthony Mangun
Vesta Mangun
David Myers

ThePastorsCoach
10-22-2011, 07:50 AM
The best I have ever heard in the UPC was at a Deeper Life Conference at First Pentecostal Church/Pastor Tommy Craft, Jackson, MS when Pastor Wayne McClain preached "Most Likely, You Will Not Change". Incredible and it changed my life!

My favorite preacher has passed away and that was my Pastor & Bishop for many years, Bishop G. E. Patterson of Temple of Deliverance, Memphis, TN. My Bishop and favorite preacher now is Bishop T. D. Jakes of The Potters House/Dallas, TX and I don't think you can get any better!
I do love to hear my Pastor, Jentezen Franklin preach. He is the real deal!
As far as a list - some of the best preaching I have ever heard has been.

Pastor P.T. McClure - PromiseLand Church - Melbourne, FL
Bishop Wayne Malcolm - Christian Life City - London, England
Bishop Noel Jones - City of Refuge - Los Angeles, CA
Evangelist R. W. Schambach - Tyler, Texas
Dr. Wayne Parks, Full Gospel Church, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Bishop Tudor Bismark - New Life Covenant Church - Harare, Zimbabwe.
Pastor Clint Brown, FAITHWORLD CHURCH of Orlando, FL
and if you have not had a heart attack already.......
Dr. Mark Hanby was the best the UPC ever had and still sells more product of his messages than most men you will ever know. He was a master at preaching and I still love to hear him.
As far as Non-Pentecostal Teachers - Pastor Charles Stanley - First Baptist Church of Atlanta, GA, Pastor Andy Stanley, North Point Community Church, Alpharetta/North Atlanta, GA and the late Pastor Jack Hiles of First Baptist Church, Hammond, IN.

Amanah
10-22-2011, 07:52 AM
AB

Would you link me to any message by Jentezen Franklin? I would like to hear one or some of them

ThePastorsCoach
10-22-2011, 07:58 AM
Leslie, I think you have to order them but you can catch him at 9 AM EST every Sunday on TBN and is on TV & Radio daily nationally. His new book came out this week - The Fasting Edge and is really good. www.jentezenfranklin.org or www.FreeChapel.org will get you to his products. It is so funny when you listen to him you can close your eyes and hear Pastor Anthony Mangun preaching. Both - GREAT preachers and they sound so much alike!

Amanah
10-22-2011, 08:25 AM
Leslie, I think you have to order them but you can catch him at 9 AM EST every Sunday on TBN and is on TV & Radio daily nationally. His new book came out this week - The Fasting Edge and is really good. www.jentezenfranklin.org or www.FreeChapel.org will get you to his products. It is so funny when you listen to him you can close your eyes and hear Pastor Anthony Mangun preaching. Both - GREAT preachers and they sound so much alike!

ok thank you, Brother Pugh, I will make a point to try to hear him on TV.

ThePastorsCoach
10-22-2011, 08:48 AM
Watching Pastor Sheryl Brady preach to 18,000 women at Woman Thou Art Loosed/Bishop Jakes at Lakewood Church in Houston. INCREDIBLE!
http://www.thepottershouse.org/echurch/wtalstream/

Pilgrum
10-22-2011, 08:50 AM
There is a tremendous feeling of insignificance within our ranks. We've always been "the other guys" and "the ones from the other side of the tracks."

To make up for that we hold these pageants designed to assuage our egos. By puffing up the evening's speaker we actually are puffing up ourselves. The only reason this culture has been allowed to persist is because it inflates the self worth of the attendees.

And even when the preacher "has guts" and "preaches it hard" we rally around that by puffing out our chests and loudly complaining after service how "the liberals" and "the -fill in the blank-" crowd has "let down so much" that we need to "hear some fire" from the pulpit.

The culture is self perpetuating in a sense, but like all such carnal exercises it too is doomed to pass just as surely as the grass withers and the flowers fade.



Isaiah 40:7-11:

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.



:thumbsup

Pilgrum
10-22-2011, 08:54 AM
I'll never forget L.E. Westburg... he changed my life.

Jesus changed my life!

Pilgrum
10-22-2011, 08:59 AM
I agree with your above statement, but how often does it stop at just liking the style and delivery of the person? Many times it progresses to be "I want to be like Bro. or Sis. So-and-so because of a,b,c,d reasons." That is dangerous, IMO. I like AM and his ministry but there is no way I want to be like him. To try and be like someone else is to vacate the real you that you are to be.

:thumbsup That my friend is a powerful statement. Thanks

Sister Alvear
10-22-2011, 09:51 AM
So true...just be what we are...

Steve Epley
10-22-2011, 10:24 AM
Here's a list of my favorite preachers:

Jonathan Alvear
Larry Booker
Ron Garrett
Wayne McClain
The late L.E.Westburg
The late G.R.Travis
D.C.Moody
Gary Howard

I love ultra conservative preachers. I'm sure this will be a popular post :)

I also have enjoyed the majority of these men. Never heard Elders McClain nor Travis and only heard Elder Westburg once.
I would like to add:
Tim Copeland
Steve McMullen
Russell Frazier
James Groce
Dallas Mefford
Nathan Dudley
Mike Phillips
Keith Hood

Sister Alvear
10-22-2011, 10:38 AM
Ken Bow is a good preacher also like Bro. Phil White. I grew up listening to Sister Agnes Holmes preach. She is still awesome even in her twilight hours.

houston
10-22-2011, 11:04 AM
I enjoy listening to J. Franklin. I wish there was a way for him to reach the masses outside of that circus that is TBN.

ThePastorsCoach
10-22-2011, 11:10 AM
I enjoy listening to J. Franklin. I wish there was a way for him to reach the masses outside of that circus that is TBN.

I know exactly what you are saying and we discussed it at length when he was first asked to go on TBN. I told him, I just hate for you to hitch your wagon to the TBN train because I see a train wreck coming down the tracks!
He is very well aware of the goings on and stays away from the mess as much as he can. He is the real deal and is a great, fasting and praying Pastor. He & I will dedicate my 3 year old Grandson (that I have custody of) tomorrow in the 11 AM Service and I am grateful to him for his friendship and for being such a great Pastor and example of Godly living.

Kingdom Connection has had the highest ratings of any program in its category since the first month it was on. It is the Number One program on TBN!

houston
10-22-2011, 11:31 AM
I love his passion for young people. He is reaching a generation that is unreachable. How have you influenced him? I heard him quote Acts 238. LOL

Barb
10-22-2011, 11:49 AM
Watching Pastor Sheryl Brady preach to 18,000 women at Woman Thou Art Loosed/Bishop Jakes at Lakewood Church in Houston. INCREDIBLE!
http://www.thepottershouse.org/echurch/wtalstream/

Saw her in person here...

RandyWayne
10-22-2011, 03:42 PM
Lets see....

Bridget Bardot

Grace Kelly

Heidi Klum....

Oh wait, I thought this was about My favorite blonds.....

ThePastorsCoach
10-22-2011, 05:01 PM
I love his passion for young people. He is reaching a generation that is unreachable. How have you influenced him? I heard him quote Acts 238. LOL

LOL - I can assure you that I have not influenced JF in the least. He is my pastor, I am not his! We did not join FC to influence them but to be influenced and Pastored by JF.
His influencer's are Bishop Tenney, Tommy Tenney, Steve Muncie (who he claims is his best friend) and Phil Muncie and I am sure many others outside the OP movement. He has been prayed over by Vesta Mangun and has great regard for the preaching of some of the best (and in my opinion the worst) BOTT speakers.
His late father was Church of God and he was COG until he was voted in (1989) as the Senior Pastor of Free Chapel Worship Center in Gainesville, GA and is licensed with The Congregational Holiness Church and the Church of God (Cleveland, TN) He pastors Free Chapel Worship Center in Gainesville, GA which is a Congregational Holiness Church and Free Chapel Orange County, CA (since 2007) which is a Church of God congregation.
Most people think that FC is an independent non-denominational church but it is not.

houston
10-22-2011, 05:35 PM
Oh, he needs a new best friend. :eek: LOL. I like Tommy but do not hold his daddy in high regard. I should probably shut up before I say something that some of the forum members are going to regret.

kclee4jc
10-22-2011, 07:18 PM
I know exactly what you are saying and we discussed it at length when he was first asked to go on TBN. I told him, I just hate for you to hitch your wagon to the TBN train because I see a train wreck coming down the tracks!
He is very well aware of the goings on and stays away from the mess as much as he can. He is the real deal and is a great, fasting and praying Pastor. He & I will dedicate my 3 year old Grandson (that I have custody of) tomorrow in the 11 AM Service and I am grateful to him for his friendship and for being such a great Pastor and example of Godly living.

Kingdom Connection has had the highest ratings of any program in its category since the first month it was on. It is the Number One program on TBN!

I do not agree with Mr. Franklin's doctrine but he is someone in the trinitarian movement that i do respect. Do you how he feels about baptism or if he has ever leaned toward baptism in Jesus name?

houston
10-22-2011, 08:13 PM
I do not agree with Mr. Franklin's doctrine but he is someone in the trinitarian movement that i do respect. Do you how he feels about baptism or if he has ever leaned toward baptism in Jesus name?

Rod Parsley and Polly Whitey used to baptize in the Name when it was popular early last decade.

Jack Shephard
10-22-2011, 08:26 PM
:thumbsup That my friend is a powerful statement. Thanks

You are welcome.

Sabby
10-22-2011, 10:57 PM
[QUOTE=AtlantaBishop;1107643]Dr. Mark Hanby was the best the UPC ever had and still sells more product of his messages than most men you will ever know. He was a master at preaching and I still love to hear him.
QUOTE]

I have to agree with you there AB. Bro Hanby preached for the Idaho District Campmeeting in 1978, a year or two after the TV deal forced him to turn in his credentials. I remember his sermons vividly. "It's not Mine, It's Borrowed", "Nehushtan", left indelible impressions.

kclee4jc
10-23-2011, 06:22 AM
Rod Parsley and Polly Whitey used to baptize in the Name when it was popular early last decade.

I have less respect for these two. But i will say this, shortly after i received the Holy Ghost, Rod Parsley preached a powerful message on the Holy Ghost and it helped me a great deal to understand what i had received. I received the Holy Ghost never having attended a Pentecostal church (trinity or oneness) but simply reading about it in the scripture. On a side note, that Name is not popular and to baptize in it should not be motivated by a fad. I want to be so sold out for the Name of Jesus that i am ready and able to endure the most of extreme of persecution for Him. And it's coming! If they can't stand a little bit of negative feedback from scholars and theologians for the Name then they will never endure what is coming to the saints before Jesus returns!

kclee4jc
10-23-2011, 06:24 AM
Larry Booker
Cody Marks
Ron Tiller
Verbal Bean!
Doug White
Lee Stoneking
Jonathan Alvear
Alan Adams!

On The Wheel
10-24-2011, 09:24 AM
I forgot to add Bro. Johnny King. I'll never forget when he preached againts wedding rings and video at General Conference in 1989. Wow...that took guts.

Yep. And only guts. A little Bible would have gone a long way. As I recall he preached against almost everything he could think of, including golf.

A couple of months later he preached the PSR Conference in Fresno and told told the whole conference that the sponsoring pastors should sell their fancy cars and give the money to missions to prove they had a heart for the lost.

It was offensive at worst and highly sanctimonious at best.

On The Wheel
10-24-2011, 09:28 AM
I thought that Brother Jesus Christ preached a great message called "The sermon on the mount". I wish I had that on video (gasp) as I'm certain we only have a "Cliffs Notes" version of the sermon in Matthew chapter 5.

kclee4jc
10-24-2011, 03:25 PM
Yep. And only guts. A little Bible would have gone a long way. As I recall he preached against almost everything he could think of, including golf.

A couple of months later he preached the PSR Conference in Fresno and told told the whole conference that the sponsoring pastors should sell their fancy cars and give the money to missions to prove they had a heart for the lost.

It was offensive at worst and highly sanctimonious at best.

:bigbaby

Cindy
10-24-2011, 03:38 PM
Anyone that preaches the Word.

ThePastorsCoach
10-24-2011, 04:55 PM
Yep. And only guts. A little Bible would have gone a long way. As I recall he preached against almost everything he could think of, including golf.

A couple of months later he preached the PSR Conference in Fresno and told told the whole conference that the sponsoring pastors should sell their fancy cars and give the money to missions to prove they had a heart for the lost.

It was offensive at worst and highly sanctimonious at best.

I heard JK preach once with a manual in his hand. He made me think he needed psychological help when I heard him.
When someone can say "I love this great United Pentecostal Church" more times than they mention JESUS CHRIST and preach out of a book of man made rules and regulations just for the applause of the Ultra Cons - he has a problem between his ears! His screaming did not impress me but I guess young novices might be impressed and think that is strength when in reality is is not.

On The Wheel
10-24-2011, 10:16 PM
I heard JK preach once with a manual in his hand. He made me think he needed psychological help when I heard him.
When someone can say "I love this great United Pentecostal Church" more times than they mention JESUS CHRIST and preach out of a book of man made rules and regulations just for the applause of the Ultra Cons - he has a problem between his ears! His screaming did not impress me but I guess young novices might be impressed and think that is strength when in reality is is not.

He has now left the "Great United Pentecostal Church". I wonder which manual he uses now?

On The Wheel
10-24-2011, 10:19 PM
:bigbaby

You should have been there. You might think differently.







Then again, probably not.:happydance

kclee4jc
10-25-2011, 03:41 AM
I've only heard Bro King preache once, but it was a POWERFUL message. A message on humility, service, and brotherly love.. One of the best i've heard.

Jay
10-25-2011, 04:02 AM
I saw a number of names here that I recognized and have heard preach from time to time. I know that my list will resemble many others, and I will try to say a little about each one as I can. All of these men have influenced me and my life in some way.

Bro. Larry Booker-I heard him preach at a KS District youth camp or campmeeting. I have since listened to many of his messages over his church website.

Bro. Robert Davis-I also heard him preach at a KS youth camp. The message that I remember best was about keeping the buzzards off of our sacrifice.

Bro. L.E. Westburg-When we lived in the KS district, he was the Superintendant. I remember him preaching one year, Through the Fire and the Sword (I was too young to remember the right title). I was very grieved when he passed away. My family would go to the watch night service at his church almost every year.

Bro. Phillip White-I heard him preach at a KS district youth camp. I already had the Holy Ghost, but I received much from him. I will never forget his messages that year: Mercy, Grace, two on the sons of Korah, and one on keeping ourselves spiritually pure.

Sis. Freeman-She was an influence in my life for as long as I can remember. I never met her, but my Mom had a friend that had a series of messages preached by her, and I still remember some of the words that were said. I read her books, and nearly a year or so ago, I listened to a message on Youtube. I then heard another message on Apostolic Classics. If anyone knows where I can hear more, they would be appreciated.

Bro. Carl Ballestero-I recently heard a message of his online, and I want to hear more. I realized that most of the 'conservative' preaching I grew up with was nothing compared with the way it used to be.

Bro. Martyn Ballestero-I have recently come to enjoy this man's preaching very much. I first happened across him a few months ago on Bro. Booker's website. I have since followed him on his blog.

Bro. Johnny King-I saw him preach at a KS District Family Camp. The message that I remember best (as do my brothers) was a message on standards on the last night. I can still hear him start and see his build up. I do not remember the whole message, but using gold fish to illistrate his point so graphically got the message through to a young boy of 10-12.

Bro. Tom Foster-I heard him preach for the first time while we were living in TX. My dad wanted a revival, but as we were a very small church, we could not afford it. Bro. Foster called my dad and said that God wanted him to give us a revival. Bro. Foster was not only as good as his word, but he actually gave us two that year. I later heard him preach at the 2007 GC in Tampa. I was so impressed by his message that I bought the cd and still listen to it.

Bro. Randy Keyes-I have heard Bro. Keyes preach at the IL District Campmeeting. I have also listened to these messages over the years.

Bro. Crawford Coon-I heard Bro. Coon teach at the IL District Campmeeting one year, and have heard him since. I have always enjoyed his ministry.

Bro. Nathaniel Wilson-I first heard of him when my Dad bought his book The Defining Moment on cd. I later saw him at a WPF conference in 2008.

Bro. Anthony Mangun-My Mom heard Bro. Mangun preach just after she married my Dad. As she had not been allowed to go to such things when growing up, my Dad took her to the IL Youth Camp (this was because her parents were opposed at the time to anything to do with church). I grew up hearing his messages from that meeting preached.

Bro. Johnny Godair-I heard him for the first time at an IL campmeeting. I have since heard more of his preaching, and enjoy every minute of it.

Sis. Vesta Mangun-I heard a message by her on Youtube and was provoked to pray more and with more fervor than I was used to. I would like to hear more of her messages.

Bro. Verbal Bean-I read the books that were published from his teaching on Prayer, Works of the Holy Ghost, and his messages from Laurel MS titled The Battlefield. I then found a couple of his messages on the internet and have desired to hear more of his preaching.

Bro. Nathan Dudley-I heard him preach and teach while living in the KS District. I always found that he inspired me to reach for more of the things of God than I ever had before.

Bro. Jonathan Dudley-I also heard him preach while in the KS District. He is a very gifted preacher, and I would love to hear more of his messages.

Bro. Riggen-I remember when he moved into the KS District. My dad had actually tried out for the church that Bro. Riggen eventually took. I heard him a few years later at a campmeeting, and as with so many others, I would love to hear more. I remember best his teach on being a friend of God.

Bro. Lee Stoneking-I have only more recently come to appreciate the ministry of Bro. Stoneking. I have had one of his books for quite some time, and it was a great help for me in understanding the gifts of the Spirit. However, I did not hear him preach, until my youngest brother recommended him. I recently got back from Kansas City where I went to hear him preach for myself, and I received some direction that I was needing. I appreciate men who push me to find a deeper walk with Jesus.

Bro. Ron Townsley-I have heard him teach and preach on a few occasions, but he is always annointed and has the mind of God. I have also enjoyed hearing both of his sons preach.

Bro. Carl Elder-My family sat under his ministry for several years while we were in the KS District. I remember many of his messages, but I remember best his message titled 'The Same Old Devil in a Brand New Dress'.

Bro. D. Talbot-He is my pastor, and I have enjoyed hearing him preach often (and I am not saying that because he is my father). He more than any other preacher that I have ever heard has had an influence on my life, and I hope that it has been passed on to many other people also.

There are no doubt many others that I could name, but there is not enough time nor space for me to get into it. Only when we all get to Heaven will I be able to fully state my appreciation and admiration for all of the men who were so influential in my life.

Jay
10-25-2011, 04:04 AM
I apologize for the length of my last post, hopefully balanced by the simplicity of this one.

On The Wheel
10-25-2011, 09:40 AM
I've only heard Bro King preache once, but it was a POWERFUL message. A message on humility, service, and brotherly love.. One of the best i've heard.

I haven't heard him enough to comment on his entire ministry. The messages I have heard both took place within a 2 month window of time. Perhaps he was going through a phase. My limited personal dealings with him have been very favorable. I wish good, godly men would spend more time preaching the truth in love than preaching tradition in condemnation.

TGBTG
10-25-2011, 09:58 AM
I thought that Brother Jesus Christ preached a great message called "The sermon on the mount". I wish I had that on video (gasp) as I'm certain we only have a "Cliffs Notes" version of the sermon in Matthew chapter 5.

Oh Brother Jesus Christ is my ALL time favorite preacher. I have his message from when he went on a mission trip to Jerusalem. Such a powerful message. It's sad that the wicked people in Jerusalem had to kill him. Oh, it's not easy to be a missionary.

Brother Jesus Christ was so humble in his preaching. In fact, during on his preachings, he bent and started washing the foot of his congregation. Oh such humility. He was definitely a man approved of God.

I don't have his messages on tape nor video, but I do have eye-witness accounts of his ministry. Let me know if you want them...

Ferd
10-25-2011, 10:10 AM
I thought that Brother Jesus Christ preached a great message called "The sermon on the mount". I wish I had that on video (gasp) as I'm certain we only have a "Cliffs Notes" version of the sermon in Matthew chapter 5.

I am pretty sure the right reverand Christ didnt include "blessed are the jerks with an ax to grind"

one might find that instructive.

PreacherV
10-25-2011, 10:47 AM
Haven't seen or heard anything of him in a long time.

Bob Gilstrap pastored for many years in Columbia, Missouri. He recently retired and moved to Houston, Texas.

On The Wheel
10-25-2011, 12:45 PM
I am pretty sure the right reverand Christ didnt include "blessed are the jerks with an ax to grind"

one might find that instructive.

So true. Its too bad too many men get behind the sacred desk with an ax blade already honed to a fine edge, ready to swing it at saints doing their dead level best to live for God daily in a crazy world.

On The Wheel
10-25-2011, 12:47 PM
Oh Brother Jesus Christ is my ALL time favorite preacher. I have his message from when he went on a mission trip to Jerusalem. Such a powerful message. It's sad that the wicked people in Jerusalem had to kill him. Oh, it's not easy to be a missionary.

Brother Jesus Christ was so humble in his preaching. In fact, during on his preachings, he bent and started washing the foot of his congregation. Oh such humility. He was definitely a man approved of God.

I don't have his messages on tape nor video, but I do have eye-witness accounts of his ministry. Let me know if you want them...

Thanks, but I think I have a copy laying around the house somewhere.:happydance

houston
10-25-2011, 12:47 PM
sacred desk?

Jay
10-26-2011, 02:22 AM
sacred desk?

The pulpit, lecturn, podium, or any number of words have been used to describe it. Including, in the case of the one at Bro. Booker's, huge.

TGBTG
10-26-2011, 07:46 AM
Thanks, but I think I have a copy laying around the house somewhere.:happydance

:highfive

Ferd
10-26-2011, 08:45 AM
So true. Its too bad too many men get behind the sacred desk with an ax blade already honed to a fine edge, ready to swing it at saints doing their dead level best to live for God daily in a crazy world.

Its too bad knucleheads get on forums with an ax to grind because they cannot escape the past.

Amanah
11-01-2011, 03:49 AM
The best I have ever heard in the UPC was at a Deeper Life Conference at First Pentecostal Church/Pastor Tommy Craft, Jackson, MS when Pastor Wayne McClain preached "Most Likely, You Will Not Change". Incredible and it changed my life!

My favorite preacher has passed away and that was my Pastor & Bishop for many years, Bishop G. E. Patterson of Temple of Deliverance, Memphis, TN. My Bishop and favorite preacher now is Bishop T. D. Jakes of The Potters House/Dallas, TX and I don't think you can get any better!
I do love to hear my Pastor, Jentezen Franklin preach. He is the real deal!
As far as a list - some of the best preaching I have ever heard has been.

Pastor P.T. McClure - PromiseLand Church - Melbourne, FL
Bishop Wayne Malcolm - Christian Life City - London, England
Bishop Noel Jones - City of Refuge - Los Angeles, CA
Evangelist R. W. Schambach - Tyler, Texas
Dr. Wayne Parks, Full Gospel Church, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Bishop Tudor Bismark - New Life Covenant Church - Harare, Zimbabwe.
Pastor Clint Brown, FAITHWORLD CHURCH of Orlando, FL
and if you have not had a heart attack already.......
Dr. Mark Hanby was the best the UPC ever had and still sells more product of his messages than most men you will ever know. He was a master at preaching and I still love to hear him.
As far as Non-Pentecostal Teachers - Pastor Charles Stanley - First Baptist Church of Atlanta, GA, Pastor Andy Stanley, North Point Community Church, Alpharetta/North Atlanta, GA and the late Pastor Jack Hiles of First Baptist Church, Hammond, IN.

I actually heard TD Jakes preach on TBN this weekend and liked him very much.

He preached on David in Ziglag, and how in the midst of his trials the crown came to him.

I would definitely look for him and watch him again.

Dagwood
11-01-2011, 06:05 AM
I actually heard TD Jakes preach on TBN this weekend and liked him very much.

He preached on David in Ziglag, and how in the midst of his trials the crown came to him.

I would definitely look for him and watch him again.

I've always been curious about visiting his church. Only problem is I'm on the exact opposite side of Dallas from where his church meets.

Another pastor I do like to "watch" is Ricky Rush from IBOC (Inspiring Body of Christ, http://ibocjoy.org/) here in Dallas also. I say "watch" only because our local ABC news affiliate, WFAA, airs a weekly inspirational segment on the news each Sunday morning. I happen to like what he has to say, myself. Other than that, I've never watched his or any televangelists program in its entirety...

Nitehawk013
11-01-2011, 06:10 AM
Going to hear my favorite tonight! Bro. Johnny James will be in central Ohio this evening!

TGBTG
11-01-2011, 06:23 AM
Going to hear my favorite tonight! Bro. Johnny James will be in central Ohio this evening!

The old guy who's memorized like the whole bible???

If it's him, I love that guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nitehawk013
11-01-2011, 06:33 AM
That's him. The one and only!

TGBTG
11-01-2011, 06:37 AM
That's him. The one and only!

Man, I really hope I get to hear him in person b4 the Lord calls him home...

He's such a humble guy yet with so much knowledge...