Prayer: What else can you do when a Steadfast man collapses.

[Steadfast]

Okay folks, I never do this but I think it's about time to start. I realize we have a 'hodge podge' of Apostolic persuasions here but I do believe we have some here that know how to pray and touch Heaven.

I've been under an incredible amount of stress lately with a heavy preaching schedule, a new building project, a grandbaby being born and wrestling with our insurance company for the rest of the money to finish our new building.

Well, today it seems to have finally caught up with me. I awakened this morning smothering (fluid around my lungs and heart) and decided I was 'fine'. Went on down to the Church to do a 'walk through' and see how it was going and did well until I was about to leave. I ended up collapsing on the front walkway as I was exiting the new building.

My sons and several of the men of the Church were there working and saw me go down. My Evangelist was pulling up and saw me in that condition (The embarrassment was worse than the fall). They finally got me put back together and took me to the house... I refused to go to the hospital (I know, I know... dumb.) I think the worse part was my Saints seeing me in that condition.

I finally gained my composure enough to take some fluid pills and spent the last two hours trying to breath. My blood pressure is now resting solidly on 234/128 which doesn't help. No heart pains right now, though, for which I'm thankul.

I've got blue lips, a pounding headache, shallow breathing and I'm as weak as water now. Oh yes, I have one more thing... my wife has threatened what life I have left if I get out of this bed.

Perhaps just too much stress and too little rest.

Thanks in advance for the prayers.

[Coonskinner]

Praying here, Elder.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Elder, we will surely pray for you, but a Hospital visit may be the best thing with these high numbers.

[revrandy]

Okay folks, I never do this but I think it's about time to start. I realize we have a 'hodge podge' of Apostolic persuasions here but I do believe we have some here that know how to pray and touch Heaven.

I've been under an incredible amount of stress lately with a heavy preaching schedule, a new building project, a grandbaby being born and wrestling with our insurance company for the rest of the money to finish our new building.

Well, today it seems to have finally caught up with me. I awakened this morning smothering (fluid around my lungs and heart) and decided I was 'fine'. Went on down to the Church to do a 'walk through' and see how it was going and did well until I was about to leave. I ended up collapsing on the front walkway as I was exiting the new building.

My sons and several of the men of the Church were there working and saw me go down. My Evangelist was pulling up and saw me in that condition (The embarrassment was worse than the fall). They finally got me put back together and took me to the house... I refused to go to the hospital (I know, I know... dumb.) I think the worse part was my Saints seeing me in that condition.

I finally gained my composure enough to take some fluid pills and spent the last two hours trying to breath. My blood pressure is now resting solidly on 234/128 which doesn't help. No heart pains right now, though, for which I'm thankul.

I've got blue lips, a pounding headache, shallow breathing and I'm as weak as water now. Oh yes, I have one more thing... my wife has threatened what life I have left if I get out of this bed.

Perhaps just too much stress and too little rest.

Thanks in advance for the prayers.

I will Pray...

But go to the Hospital before an ambulance picks you up and takes you there!!!

[Pressing-On]

Steadfast,
I just took my husband to the doctor for being dizzy. His blood pressure wasn't near as high as yours!!!!!! You are in my prayers! Slow down..... lol!

[MrsBOOMM]

We will pray, but please get help! That Grandbaby needs you!

[HeavenlyOne]

George (yes, I know this isn't his real name, but he needs a stern voice at the moment),

Speaking as a medical professional, you are in serious danger. If that BP doesn't come down below 100, you need to get to the ER!

Maybe I should find your number and talk to that wife of yours. She sounds like a persuasive woman to me!

[HeavenlyOne]

I will Pray...

But go to the Hospital before an ambulance picks you up and takes you there!!!

If he waits much longer, they won't be taking him to the ER.

[SDG]

Best thing is to seek prayer but also ... too slow down for a season ... your church and family need you ... maybe you should also go see the doc.

[Ron]

Praying for you Elder!

Please take heed to some of the advice to take care of yourself!!

[Blubayou]

Praying- God is able, but I agree with HO - you also need medical help!!!!! I am praying for your healing and for you to have wisdom, your family and church need you.

[Esther]

We will pray, but please get help! That Grandbaby needs you!

Amen!

[CC1]

Steadfast,

I to am calling on the name of the Lord for your healing. However, like most others on this thread, I would urge you to avail yourself of all of the avenues God has given us for healing and go to the hospital.

Plesae let me know if there is anything I can do for you in addition to praying, which I promise to continue to do.

In Jesus Name!!!!!

[Tina]

If he waits much longer, they won't be taking him to the ER.


We are praying for you Steadfast...

I'm not discounting the power of prayer by any means---but YOU need to go get checked by a doctor ASAP. Those are some SERIOUS symptoms... and not ones you want to play around with.

We want you around to enjoy spoiling that new grandbuddy of yours.

[philjones]

Praying fervently here.... diastolic over 120 is stroke city! No need to say that a 200+ systolic is nothing to sneeze at either!

Be healed in Jesus Name!

[Ferd]

SOMEBODY GO TO THIS GUYS HOUSE AND MAKE HIM GO TO THE HOSPITAL!

Dude, go to the hospital!

I mean Reverand Steadfast, please go to the hospital,.

[HeavenlyOne]

I see that he's online, but does anyone have his number to check up on him? I'm worried.

[revrandy]

Anybody with an Update?

[Tina]

I see that he's online, but does anyone have his number to check up on him? I'm worried.

I would guess that maybe Coonskinner would have a phone number...

[rgcraig]

hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HeavenlyOne]

I hope he's there!

[rgcraig]

He's not, but he should be and I can't understand why NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Theresa]

hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW

[Tina]

After what I went through with my husband and his blood pressure between Thanksgiving and Christmas-- it's really been driven home to me how much people need to pay attention to the warning signs. Stress is a killer.

I hope and pray that he will go get checked out. It's better to go and find out everything is okay-- than to ignore it, and hope it will just go away. Next time, there might not be a warning sign.

Bro Steadfast.... I say this with the utmost respect for you--- PLEASE get past the "stubborn" male nature that doesn't want to go to the doctor... and go. Do it for your wife, children and that new grandbaby. (Not to mention all of us on the forum who are sitting here now worrying about you)

[rgcraig]

Hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW

After what I went through with my husband and his blood pressure between Thanksgiving and Christmas-- it's really been driven home to me how much people need to pay attention to the warning signs. Stress is a killer.

I hope and pray that he will go get checked out. It's better to go and find out everything is okay-- than to ignore it, and hope it will just go away. Next time, there might not be a warning sign.

Bro Steadfast.... I say this with the utmost respect for you--- PLEASE get past the "stubborn" male nature that doesn't want to go to the doctor... and go. Do it for your wife, children and that new grandbaby. (Not to mention all of us on the forum who are sitting here now worrying about you)
PLEASE!!!!

[Theresa]

has anyone called him?

[Malvaro]

do we have an updates regarding Steadfast?

[LadyCoonskinner]

has anyone called him?


This is Coonskinner.

Steadfast is asleep right now, resting.

I spoke with his son earlier, and we are praying and hoping that our Brother sees fit to see a doctor as soon as possible.

He is important to the Kingdom of God in this hour, and many people look up to him and depend on him.

Because of that, the adversaty would no doubt like to silence his voice, but we are believing that God will take care of him, and that he will get the help he needs.

Thank you for praying.

[Rhoni]

Faith without works is dead...being alone...which your wife, children and grandbaby will be if you don't put some works with your faith. I will pray that God gives you good sense.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Felicity]

Praying for Bro. White.

[rgcraig]

This is Coonskinner.

Steadfast is asleep right now, resting.

I spoke with his son earlier, and we are praying and hoping that our Brother sees fit to see a doctor as soon as possible.

He is important to the Kingdom of God in this hour, and many people look up to him and depend on him.

Because of that, the adversaty would no doubt like to silence his voice, but we are believing that God will take care of him, and that he will get the help he needs.

Thank you for praying.Thanks Coon!

Tell his family to just roll the bed out while he's asleep and get him to the hospital!!!

MEN!

[LaGirl]

You are in our prayers. think you should see a doc! SOOOOOOOON

[Tina]

This is Coonskinner.

Steadfast is asleep right now, resting.

I spoke with his son earlier, and we are praying and hoping that our Brother sees fit to see a doctor as soon as possible.

He is important to the Kingdom of God in this hour, and many people look up to him and depend on him.

Because of that, the adversaty would no doubt like to silence his voice, but we are believing that God will take care of him, and that he will get the help he needs.

Thank you for praying.

Thanks CS, for calling and checking on him.

We're keeping him in our prayers....

[Coonskinner]

Posted by LadyCS:

I'm really worried, but I could kick his little backside!!!!!!

His sweet wife is the type that would "Mind" him and would not push him, NOT me, if I had to knock him in the head, he'd be at the hospital!!!!!

So all in all, he's probably glad he's not married to me!!!!! :)

[Coonskinner]

the last post was made by LadyCoonskinner. I forgot to log him out.... sorry, but I didn't realize it until AFTER I posted it. It looked really funny when I saw that Coonskinner had posted that he wanted to "kick his little backside".:hypercoffee :hypercoffee

[rgcraig]

Well, this is the way I look at LCS.

IF he loves his wife and his new grandbuddy, then he would go take care of himself by going to the doctor or ER!!!!!!

[Sarah]

This is Coonskinner.

Steadfast is asleep right now, resting.

I spoke with his son earlier, and we are praying and hoping that our Brother sees fit to see a doctor as soon as possible.

He is important to the Kingdom of God in this hour, and many people look up to him and depend on him.

Because of that, the adversaty would no doubt like to silence his voice, but we are believing that God will take care of him, and that he will get the help he needs.

Thank you for praying.


Bro Coonskinner, do you have any influence at all with him? If you do, please MAKE him go and be checked out by a doctor. I believe in prayer also, but God gave us the ability to think! We need that man.....and so does his family!

[CC1]

Steadfast,

If you get up and read this thread I hope four pages of more than two or three agreeing on one thing (you going to the hospital) is enough to convince you to go.

All of our prayer, God's healing power, and the wonderful skills God has given doctors are a great combination.

[maddy]

I refused to go to the hospital (I know, I know... dumb.) I think the worse part was my Saints seeing me in that condition.


Hello, just maybe God has someone at the hospital that needs YOU!!!!!! All things work together for the good to them that love the Lord. If you still want saints you really should go and be checked out. Our health is nothing to take lightly. We need to be in good health to minister to others. Maybe you just need a break for a couple of days and God was giving it to you. Stop being stubborn and go get checked out.
Praying for you also!

[Falla39]

I refused to go to the hospital (I know, I know... dumb.) I think the worse part was my Saints seeing me in that condition.


Hello, just maybe God has someone at the hospital that needs YOU!!!!!! All things work together for the good to them that love the Lord. If you still want saints you really should go and be checked out. Our health is nothing to take lightly. We need to be in good health to minister to others. Maybe you just need a break for a couple of days and God was giving it to you. Stop being stubborn and go get checked out.
Praying for you also!

Lord Jesus,

You see our brother who has a serious situation, needing Your attention!

You are His Father and You possess ALL WISDOM, ALL POWER and YOU ARE

WHEREVER Your people need You!! Father God, in the Name of JESUS, we

humbly ask You to intervene in whatever way You would see fit to take care

of our brother, and Your son!!! We trust You! You are our Creator. It is You

that hath made us and not we ourselves. We are Your people, the sheep of

Your pasture!!! Thank You, for what You WILL DO for Bro. Steadfast, in

JESUS Name!!!

Falla39

[mizpeh]

Posted by LadyCS:

I'm really worried, but I could kick his little backside!!!!!!

His sweet wife is the type that would "Mind" him and would not push him, NOT me, if I had to knock him in the head, he'd be at the hospital!!!!!

So all in all, he's probably glad he's not married to me!!!!! :)

I work in an acute care hospital and take care of very sick patients on my unit but someone with pressure of > 200/100 not responding to treatment would be quickly shipped to the Special Care Unit! I'm praying for him too, but medical attention can be helpful sometimes.

[CountryRev]

Praying for you, Bro.

Please go to the hospital!

[stmatthew]

Bro,

I am praying for your recovery.

[Brother Strange]

Oh my!

Bro. Steadfast... I just saw this.

Brother, you certainly do need the care of professionals together with the loving attention of your church, those of us who admire you here and your family, please heed our call and let the physicians attend to your need. It is critical.

You need someone to come to your side that can relieve you of the burden of the church, ministry, and business. Please do not have so much pride that you fail to call on willing hands that are ready for service.

[SISTER Murphy]

George (yes, I know this isn't his real name, but he needs a stern voice at the moment),

Speaking as a medical professional, you are in serious danger. If that BP doesn't come down below 100, you need to get to the ER!

Maybe I should find your number and talk to that wife of yours. She sounds like a persuasive woman to me!

And, there's the issue of the blue lips and shallow breathing. THAT is NOT good!!!! Go to the hospital Bro. Steadfast, PLEASE!!!!

[HeavenlyOne]

And, there's the issue of the blue lips and shallow breathing. THAT is NOT good!!!! Go to the hospital Bro. Steadfast, PLEASE!!!!

Speaking of nursing school, how are you doing?

My final exam is May 10th. I'm hoping for a miracle to pass this class, but I'll take it in the fall if I have to.

I have to take my mental health and med surg clinicals over in the fall anyway. Now I won't graduate until May 2008. But I'm not quitting!

[Brother Price]

How is my brother doing this morning? All is well? Did he finally go to the hospital? Usually, I veer away from there unless it is a must. Right now, it is a must.

[ILG]

Praying Steadfast! Are you going to go to the doctor?

[ILG]

Well, this is the way I look at LCS.

IF he loves his wife and his new grandbuddy, then he would go take care of himself by going to the doctor or ER!!!!!!

Well different people have different beliefs. I hope one of his is to go see the doctor!

[Sarah]

Has anyone heard an update this morning? I hope and pray Steadfast is better by now.....

[Ron]

Still praying Steadfast. You are much loved Elder and much needed in this hour.
God can still work a miracle and can confirm it through the Doctors.

I hope you realize Elder all of the things said in this thread are done out of a deep Love, Respect, and Concern for you!

Continuing in prayer.

[HeavenlyOne]

Someone needs to call him and get info for us.

[Falla39]

I would like to say that I am not responding directly to any posts that

have been posted! The love and concern and support for Bro. Steadfast

is precious. But at the same time I respect Bro. Steadfast's reluctance to

rush into anything. He is a man of God and is seeking God for divine wisdom

as to what God would have him do!! Waiting on the LORD is not "doing

nothing". Waiting on the LORD is renewing our strength. I thank God for what

the physicians can do with God's help. God doesn't really need any help

as it is He that hath made us and not we ourselves. WE ARE His people,

the sheep of HIS pasture. We are admonished all through the Word of God

to trust in the LORD, it is better to trust in the Lord than....! Etc., etc.

Israel wanted a king like the other nations. God wanted to be their king!

He gave them the desire of their hearts but it cost them. God wants to be

our all. ALL in ALL!!! I want Him to be my ALL!! God gave them the desires

of their hearts but sent leanness to their souls!!

This is not intended in any way to be condemning or other to anyone.

Is the big c word...cancer, bigger than my God! Nay, I say. Is numbers

on a blood pressure bigger than my God! Nay, I say!!! My GOD is bigger

than any disease, problem we might encounter!!! Can we prove Him!!

Bro. Steadfast can well make a decision as what he feels he should or

should not do. No one should try to override his personal decision. That

should be his right to decide!! We can pray for him and ask God to give

him the wisdom to make the right choice. But the decision rests with him

and His God!! How do you exalt God. You build HIM UP!!!! Not just in words

but in deed!!!!MY GOD can do anything but lie and fail!!! JESUS NEVER FAILS!

Just because the decision God makes doesn't fit what we want, does not

mean HE FAILS! HE NEVER FAILS!!! OUR GOD IS GREAT and GREATLY TO BE

PRAISED!!!! Let us exalt His NAME together!! JESUS, JESUS, PRECIOUS

JESUS, OH, FOR GRACE TO TRUST HIM MORE!!!!

Blessings,

Falla39

[Steadfast]

First of all, let me thank each of you for your prayers. Yesterday was quite a traumatic experience to say the least.

At this point I've been in bed for a little over 24 hours I think. I did get up for about an hour late last night and tried to eat a little with my family and ventured into the living room to look at my new Grandbuddy. I haven't even gotten out of bed today and debate the wisdom of doing it at all.

After taking the proper medicines I've gradually gotten some of the fluid off my heart and my blood pressure has come down to 197/103. They say that's still high but it's much better than the 234/123 at the time I went to bed yesterday. I still feel like I've been stomped in a serious way about the chest and have a headache of magnificent proportions.

One of the key reasons for not going to the hospital yet is that when we went looking for insurance several years ago they gave me the option of covering my wife/kids or myself/kids. Something about a surgery she had some 6 years earlier that wouldn't qualify both of us with our children. I obviously opted for covering my family and we recently started shopping for insurance that is going to cover both of us. In fact, during a recent business meeting over the building program the Church asked us to find some kind of medical insurance that covered us all. Needless to say, if something like this was on my medical records we wouldn't be able to even acquire insurance.

Continue in prayer for me as I have a 'lot on my plate' and my health has now demanded to be an issue. Though I have my laptop at my side which stays logged on I've spent the majority of my time sleeping and a lot of time praying. Perhaps this is God's way of demanding I take better care of myself as I have to preach 5 camps back to back as well as several other meetings over the next few months.

If there is ONE voice in my life that I NEVER question it's that of my Bishop. One of my sons called him when I was in the throes of trying to breathe yesterday and he called me back a few hours later and, shall we say, 'expounded' (key word being pound) the way of God more perfectly. I made him a few sincere promises to take care of myself better and his 'discourse' included a final demand: "You get away from there for a few days! I don't care where you go but get away from that building program and that Church for a while." He went on to say "If they can't survive without you a few days you, as a Pastor, haven't done something right. If they don't understand you needing to get away they don't deserve you."

Well, I'm not sure where I'm going but... I guess I'm going somewhere when I get the strength to do it.

Thanks again for the prayers...

[rgcraig]

Glad to hear this Steadfast!

It sounds like to me that you've had a heart attack. God is with you, but God also gave you the sense to take care of his vessel and you haven't been.

So, just add me to the ones harping to ya!

Still praying~!

[Felicity]

Perhaps this is God's way of demanding I take better care of myself as I have to preach 5 camps back to back as well as several other meetings over the next few months.Meetings can be canceled.

I know .. I know .... but just saying is all. ;)


:)

[revrandy]

Well, I'm not sure where I'm going but... I guess I'm going somewhere when I get the strength to do it.

Thanks again for the prayers...


Bro. Steadfast..

One of the best places to recoup.. is Northern California.. from San Francisco to Yosemite.. Stay downtown Frisco overlooking the Ocean.. Go down below the Golden Gate Bridge over to the Oceanside..

or Monterey/Carmel California...

This is the place to find rest!!!

I know many preachers come here just to relax.. and watch the ocean...

just a thought..

[Steadfast]

Sounds wonderful to me... my friend Pastors in San Francisco and it would be fun bugging him along the way.

Not sure what we're doing yet. My daughter graduates in a couple weeks and I'm preaching in Jackson, Tennessee earlier that same week. If I'm going to get away at all I have to do it pretty quick.

However, I NEVER disobey my Pastor and - trust me - I'll do something simply because he requested it!

[HeavenlyOne]

One of the key reasons for not going to the hospital yet is that when we went looking for insurance several years ago they gave me the option of covering my wife/kids or myself/kids. Something about a surgery she had some 6 years earlier that wouldn't qualify both of us with our children. I obviously opted for covering my family and we recently started shopping for insurance that is going to cover both of us. In fact, during a recent business meeting over the building program the Church asked us to find some kind of medical insurance that covered us all. Needless to say, if something like this was on my medical records we wouldn't be able to even acquire insurance.


Thanks for the reply and I'm glad you are better, but you are still in danger.

I took out this part of your post because I hear people use this as a reason for not seeking medical care, and I think it's pitiful that people have to resort to the above and have more damage that will result in more doctor visits and medications later on than if they'd went to begin with. Not berating you, but I totally understand the reasoning you have...I really do.

That being said, let me ask what kind of burial and funeral insurance you have.

Oh, don't have any? Unless you plan on being cremated, your funeral expenses will come to about 10G. All that money spent with nothing but a headstone to show for it, which will cost extra. And what price do we put on the loss of a loved one?

Like I said, I understand the issue with lack of health care, and I think this country is horrible in providing for our own while we give free health care to the illegals in this country, but I'd rather owe a large bill for the rest of my life and have one (a life) than pass away, be gone forever, and leave my family with the large bill to pay.

Think about that, my brother. I love ya. ;)

[HeavenlyOne]

Glad to hear this Steadfast!

It sounds like to me that you've had a heart attack. God is with you, but God also gave you the sense to take care of his vessel and you haven't been.

So, just add me to the ones harping to ya!

Still praying~!

And people who have had heart attacks are at extreme risk of developing blood clots. Clots cause more heart attacks and strokes.

[RevDWW]

Pray'n!

[revrandy]

Sounds wonderful to me... my friend Pastors in San Francisco and it would be fun bugging him along the way.

Not sure what we're doing yet. My daughter graduates in a couple weeks and I'm preaching in Jackson, Tennessee earlier that same week. If I'm going to get away at all I have to do it pretty quick.
However, I NEVER disobey my Pastor and - trust me - I'll do something simply because he requested it!

The Weather is fantastic out here... I think you would enjoy it....

[Theresa]

I'd say head to a remote cabin in the smokey mountains :)

[rgcraig]

I'd say head to a remote cabin in the smokey mountains :)

And leave your cell phone at home!!!!

[Blubayou]

Glad to hear you are feeling better. I have been in prayer for you several times yesterday and today. Please rest and see about that insurance!!!!! Too much stress can destroy God's temple. This is a symptom and a warning. Heed it! After those strong words, I love and appreciate your ministry. God Bless.

[MrsBOOMM]

In all seriousness, Brother, are you going to take someone with you that can drive, carry your luggage, wheel you in a wheelchair so that you don't have to walk too far? From the way you have described your symptoms, you are not healthy enough to go on vacation. I am really concerned for your well being and for a family who may be without someone they love dearly! Praying that God helps you do what you need and what He wants you to do.

[Scott Hutchinson]

My dearest Brother In Christ I do love you and please take of yourself as we do need you around.

[CC1]

First of all, let me thank each of you for your prayers. Yesterday was quite a traumatic experience to say the least.

At this point I've been in bed for a little over 24 hours I think. I did get up for about an hour late last night and tried to eat a little with my family and ventured into the living room to look at my new Grandbuddy. I haven't even gotten out of bed today and debate the wisdom of doing it at all.

After taking the proper medicines I've gradually gotten some of the fluid off my heart and my blood pressure has come down to 197/103. They say that's still high but it's much better than the 234/123 at the time I went to bed yesterday. I still feel like I've been stomped in a serious way about the chest and have a headache of magnificent proportions.

One of the key reasons for not going to the hospital yet is that when we went looking for insurance several years ago they gave me the option of covering my wife/kids or myself/kids. Something about a surgery she had some 6 years earlier that wouldn't qualify both of us with our children. I obviously opted for covering my family and we recently started shopping for insurance that is going to cover both of us. In fact, during a recent business meeting over the building program the Church asked us to find some kind of medical insurance that covered us all. Needless to say, if something like this was on my medical records we wouldn't be able to even acquire insurance.

Continue in prayer for me as I have a 'lot on my plate' and my health has now demanded to be an issue. Though I have my laptop at my side which stays logged on I've spent the majority of my time sleeping and a lot of time praying. Perhaps this is God's way of demanding I take better care of myself as I have to preach 5 camps back to back as well as several other meetings over the next few months.

If there is ONE voice in my life that I NEVER question it's that of my Bishop. One of my sons called him when I was in the throes of trying to breathe yesterday and he called me back a few hours later and, shall we say, 'expounded' (key word being pound) the way of God more perfectly. I made him a few sincere promises to take care of myself better and his 'discourse' included a final demand: "You get away from there for a few days! I don't care where you go but get away from that building program and that Church for a while." He went on to say "If they can't survive without you a few days you, as a Pastor, haven't done something right. If they don't understand you needing to get away they don't deserve you."

Well, I'm not sure where I'm going but... I guess I'm going somewhere when I get the strength to do it.

Thanks again for the prayers...


Steadfast,

Thanks for the update. I understand the insurance situation BUT as serious as your symptomns are you want to make sure you are around to have insurance in the future. I still hope you will, prayerfully, consider medical attention. Some things can only be helped if looked at early on. Please consider that. I am still remembering you in prayer every day.

God Bless.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I did talk to Steadfast's daughter today and the brother is doing some better she said but I'll try to call back tomorrow.

[Steadfast]

My dearest Brother In Christ I do love you and please take of yourself as we do need you around.

Bro. Hutchinson,

My daughter said that a man called earlier and she answered the telephone. Thought his name "was 'something' Hutchinson". I'm not sure you would know how to get my number but I think you're the only "something Hutchinson" I know.

If it was you I appreciate the call. I've been in bed the vast majority of the last few days. In fact, I'm on my way back to bed now!

Blessings on you and yours,
Steadfast

[Scott Hutchinson]

Steadfast you are my brother in Christ so you're welefare is my concern.

[HeavenlyOne]

Scott has everyone's phone number......LOL!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Really I don't , But I do call alot of folks to check on them though.

[Malvaro]

Scott has everyone's phone number......LOL!

not mine :D

[HeavenlyOne]

not mine :D

I bet he'd get it if he needed it!

[Sarah]

Not sure bed rest is 'good for what ails' you right now. I'm not a health professional, so I really don't know.

Hope you don't mind all of us being 'bossy', but it's only because we care. Are you under a doctor's care?

[Elizabeth]

Steadfast--how are you today, can you give us a report?

[HeavenlyOne]

Not sure bed rest is 'good for what ails' you right now. I'm not a health professional, so I really don't know.

Hope you don't mind all of us being 'bossy', but it's only because we care. Are you under a doctor's care?

When one's blood pressure is that high, yes, bed rest is necessary. Being up and about just increases it.

In most other cases, especially surgical ones, laying around isn't ideal.

[philjones]

Really I don't , But I do call alot of folks to check on them though.

You ain't called me in a coon's age.... and we all know how OLD Coon is!:hypercoffee

[Ferd]

Steadfast, we continue to pray that God will heal you. I am glad you are feeling some better.

[Steadfast]

Steadfast--how are you today, can you give us a report?

Miss Jeanie,

I'm feeling about the same but should be better shortly. My wife is putting a few things together so we can get out of town for a while for some much needed R & R.

I went to my daughter's awards program and was well tuckered by the time I got back home. Stopped by the office to 'close up shop' and leave as soon as I see an open door.

Blessings.

[rgcraig]

Miss Jeanie,

I'm feeling about the same but should be better shortly. My wife is putting a few things together so we can get out of town for a while for some much needed R & R.

I went to my daughter's awards program and was well tuckered by the time I got back home. Stopped by the office to 'close up shop' and leave as soon as I see an open door.

Blessings.

Glad to hear this Steadfast!

Please take care of yourself!!!!!

[ForeverBlessed]

Steadfast, got an email yesterday and prayed.. but just read part of this thread today.

We all love you here… I understand insurance problems… but get help as soon as possible. You need more than rest or vacation. You really need to focus on getting healthy... on getting the blood pressure under control… medical care, lifestyle changes…whatever it takes… please do this… for your family and your new grandbuddy.. for your church.. they all need you.

Look at the situation as a wake up call… I hesitated writing this..but you know my family.... I’ve been right where your family is. I know all about someone I love being stubborn and not seeking medical care. He did a lot of self doctoring.. praying and vacations. When he did get care, it was really too late for quality of life.

My dad was a man of faith who some how saw the medical care as a sign of weakness I think.. not sure what it was… wonderful man that he was, refused medical care for his condition until it was almost too late. Dad was sick, but refused medical care.. even had embarrassing situations like you did in collapsing.. scary for us.. embarrassing to him. He didn’t deal with physical weakness very well. (since you knew him I’m sure you understand)

When dad finally agreed to treatment, it was after nearly dying… close to comatose.. drowning in his own toxins.. congestive heart failure.. he refused to go to the doctor… just rested.. all his kids surrounding him begging him to please go to the hospital. He was always determined that God would take care of him..

When Dad finally agreed to be taken to the hospital one evening after resting for days, the doctor told him he wouldn’t have lived through the night…he was lucky to be alive. Only when he was faced with that information did he finally agree to treatment. He was able to live a little over three years after recovering to a certain point… but the problem was, he had neglected the medical problem so long, he had major organ damage. Dad died leaving 5 grandbabies that the oldest (my girls) have vague memories of….but the youngest two… who were 2 years and 3 months old at his death, never knew him… Dad never got to enjoy his little “grand buddies”. As you know.. my brother was left in his mid twenties to pastor a church left to him... and he needed his dad.

Steadfast, please seek medical attention for the medical problems as soon as possible. Do whatever it takes to be on a path to good health… you have so much to live for…

I am praying.

[Sherri]

Steadfast--
I didn't know about this until right now; hope you're feeling better!!!

I had a similar episode a few years back and they ended up putting me on Cardizem, for blood pressure. I'm fine as long as I take it. I HATE meds, so I am hoping to get off of it eventually; it's expensive too. But for now, I don't want my BP to be high, because it's very dangerous. Please let a doctor look at you and take some meds for a while if you need to. I am a firm believer in healing, but I also am a firm believer in medicine sometimes.

We love you here; take care of yourself!!!!

[Steadfast]

Okay, folks, since several have been so kind to inquire about me I thought I'd give you an update.

I do have some medical professionals in my Church and have basically been told that I am suffering from congestive heart failure. By the time you are 'gurgling' and keep coughing up the white foamy stuff (I know, horrible word pictures here) they say you are close to drowning in your own fluids.

Evidently I was exactly at that point. I've been cold now for 3 days and keep yawning (symptoms of too little oxygen) but it IS getting better. I've been given some strong medicine to take some fluid off of me and (trust me on this one) it's WORKING.

There is NO voice in my world stronger than my Pastor. Both he and my incredible friend Scott Graham have spent time with me on the telephone and I'm trying to take some necessary steps to fix the situation. My Pastor's immediate orders are simple: "Leave now. Get away and get well now."

Long story short, I walked to my pulpit tonight and told them that I'm not going to be preaching for a while, that I would be 'in and out' to get the necessary breaks and that I was a physical mess right now. I additionally told them that I was yielding my entire schedule to my Pastor's orders and I wasn't ashamed to tell them that I was submitted to a Man of God just as I asked them to be.

Keep in mind that I thought these poor people would be upset that I wasn't preaching for a while and especially that I would be 'in and out' of our services for a few weeks. Remember, these precious Saints sacrifice soooooooo much of their Pastor due to my hectic preaching schedule. Rather than be upset these people gave me a standing ovation while weeping as I turned and walked from the pulpit. Unplanned and unexpected the people starting coming to the Church secretary after the service and giving her money so that I couldn't refuse it. She came by our home and left an unexpected envelope with about $2,000 dollars cash that people had given to her to help us 'get away'.

I sincerely do NOT deserve this kind of people. They love me and mine and I feel so terribly unworthy of their kindness.

The beauty of it all is that I came home and my wife had found a last minute Alaskan cruise for almost the EXACT amount they gave us. I used American Express points for a round trip flight to our cruiseliner... and, as fate would have it, because I accepted a 'day before' flight we were both bumped to FIRST CLASS.

Not sure I'm strong enough to really do many 'shore excursions' but, hey, what else do you need to do but eat and relax. So, after tomorrow, I'm going to be doing a lot of 'nuthin' but reading my Bible and enjoying the scenery for 7 days.

Thanks again for your continued prayer!

[Steadfast]

Steadfast, got an email yesterday and prayed.. but just read part of this thread today.

We all love you here… I understand insurance problems… but get help as soon as possible. You need more than rest or vacation. You really need to focus on getting healthy... on getting the blood pressure under control… medical care, lifestyle changes…whatever it takes… please do this… for your family and your new grandbuddy.. for your church.. they all need you.

Look at the situation as a wake up call… I hesitated writing this..but you know my family.... I’ve been right where your family is. I know all about someone I love being stubborn and not seeking medical care. He did a lot of self doctoring.. praying and vacations. When he did get care, it was really too late for quality of life.

My dad was a man of faith who some how saw the medical care as a sign of weakness I think.. not sure what it was… wonderful man that he was, refused medical care for his condition until it was almost too late. Dad was sick, but refused medical care.. even had embarrassing situations like you did in collapsing.. scary for us.. embarrassing to him. He didn’t deal with physical weakness very well. (since you knew him I’m sure you understand)

When dad finally agreed to treatment, it was after nearly dying… close to comatose.. drowning in his own toxins.. congestive heart failure.. he refused to go to the doctor… just rested.. all his kids surrounding him begging him to please go to the hospital. He was always determined that God would take care of him..

When Dad finally agreed to be taken to the hospital one evening after resting for days, the doctor told him he wouldn’t have lived through the night…he was lucky to be alive. Only when he was faced with that information did he finally agree to treatment. He was able to live a little over three years after recovering to a certain point… but the problem was, he had neglected the medical problem so long, he had major organ damage. Dad died leaving 5 grandbabies that the oldest (my girls) have vague memories of….but the youngest two… who were 2 years and 3 months old at his death, never knew him… Dad never got to enjoy his little “grand buddies”. As you know.. my brother was left in his mid twenties to pastor a church left to him... and he needed his dad.

Steadfast, please seek medical attention for the medical problems as soon as possible. Do whatever it takes to be on a path to good health… you have so much to live for…

I am praying.

Dear One,

I realize what you are saying is true. I sincerely AM making plans right now to get things 'fixed'.

Thank you for your kindness.

[Steadfast]

Steadfast--
I didn't know about this until right now; hope you're feeling better!!!

I had a similar episode a few years back and they ended up putting me on Cardizem, for blood pressure. I'm fine as long as I take it. I HATE meds, so I am hoping to get off of it eventually; it's expensive too. But for now, I don't want my BP to be high, because it's very dangerous. Please let a doctor look at you and take some meds for a while if you need to. I am a firm believer in healing, but I also am a firm believer in medicine sometimes.

We love you here; take care of yourself!!!!

Miss Sherri,

You're brother called today and made some wild claim about 'gonna fly down there and beat you into a hospital'. We talked for some time. It helped.

Everyone in this life needs a friend like Scott Graham.

(And he's STILL the most underrated preacher among the Apostolic movement today!)

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Okay, folks, since several have been so kind to inquire about me I thought I'd give you an update.

I do have some medical professionals in my Church and have basically been told that I am suffering from congestive heart failure. By the time you are 'gurgling' and keep coughing up the white foamy stuff (I know, horrible word pictures here) they say you are close to drowning in your own fluids.


Thank you for posting this for us. We hope you take a camera and when you get back someone can help you post the pics of your cruise.

Enjoy the time away. :thumbsup

[Steadfast]

Thank you for posting this for us. We hope you take a camera and when you get back someone can help you post the pics of your cruise.

Enjoy the time away. :thumbsup

Trust me, I won't be wearing shorts... ANYWHERE! :heeheehee

[Praxeas]

Steadfast, got an email yesterday and prayed.. but just read part of this thread today.

We all love you here… I understand insurance problems… but get help as soon as possible. You need more than rest or vacation. You really need to focus on getting healthy... on getting the blood pressure under control… medical care, lifestyle changes…whatever it takes… please do this… for your family and your new grandbuddy.. for your church.. they all need you.

Look at the situation as a wake up call… I hesitated writing this..but you know my family.... I’ve been right where your family is. I know all about someone I love being stubborn and not seeking medical care. He did a lot of self doctoring.. praying and vacations. When he did get care, it was really too late for quality of life.

My dad was a man of faith who some how saw the medical care as a sign of weakness I think.. not sure what it was… wonderful man that he was, refused medical care for his condition until it was almost too late. Dad was sick, but refused medical care.. even had embarrassing situations like you did in collapsing.. scary for us.. embarrassing to him. He didn’t deal with physical weakness very well. (since you knew him I’m sure you understand)

When dad finally agreed to treatment, it was after nearly dying… close to comatose.. drowning in his own toxins.. congestive heart failure.. he refused to go to the doctor… just rested.. all his kids surrounding him begging him to please go to the hospital. He was always determined that God would take care of him..

When Dad finally agreed to be taken to the hospital one evening after resting for days, the doctor told him he wouldn’t have lived through the night…he was lucky to be alive. Only when he was faced with that information did he finally agree to treatment. He was able to live a little over three years after recovering to a certain point… but the problem was, he had neglected the medical problem so long, he had major organ damage. Dad died leaving 5 grandbabies that the oldest (my girls) have vague memories of….but the youngest two… who were 2 years and 3 months old at his death, never knew him… Dad never got to enjoy his little “grand buddies”. As you know.. my brother was left in his mid twenties to pastor a church left to him... and he needed his dad.

Steadfast, please seek medical attention for the medical problems as soon as possible. Do whatever it takes to be on a path to good health… you have so much to live for…

I am praying.
I agree! If not for yourself, for your church family and immediate family

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Trust me, I won't be wearing shorts... ANYWHERE! :heeheehee

I did not suggest you would be wearing shorts. Pictures of bald Eagles, and Orcas eating Sea Lions.....

Glaciers calving ice floes....

Nature pics. :nod

[rgcraig]

See....your church folks love you so much that they KNOW what is best for you and are willing to "miss" you so you can take care of yourself.

I will pray that you can continue to get better so that you may enjoy your time on the cruise.

God be with you!

[Steadfast]

I did not suggest you would be wearing shorts. Pictures of bald Eagles, and Orcas eating Sea Lions.....

Glaciers calving ice floes....

Nature pics. :nod

Oh, I know... I was just referencing another thread... :heeheehee

See....your church folks love you so much that they KNOW what is best for you and are willing to "miss" you so you can take care of yourself.

I will pray that you can continue to get better so that you may enjoy your time on the cruise.

God be with you!

Again, I'm not remotely worthy of these precious people. I'm thankful every day for God's goodness.

[Tina]

Steadfast-- God always supplies our needs. He knew you needed a vacation--and just provided the financial means through the people in your church. It never comes as a surprise to me to see things like that happen.

I was worried about the lack of funds available to send our children to youth camp in June. I was scraping together every thing I could find to put into a yard sale to let the kids have the money for camp. We would have managed to pull it together somehow.

Last night, I was given a check which was exactly the amount needed to pay for all three kids to preregister to attend youth camp. I know it wasn't a case of them having to go to camp. They could have attended the night services only, because we live 5 minutes away from the camp site. But God made a way for all three of them to go and attend ALL the activities. I know they will be blessed. I am praying that my younger two will come home with filled with the Holy Ghost. Sorry to ramble-- but God is just SO good to us.

I am glad to hear that you are doing what you need to do to improve the health situation. Hope that you have a relaxing vacation and come home refreshed.

[SISTER Murphy]

Speaking of nursing school, how are you doing?

My final exam is May 10th. I'm hoping for a miracle to pass this class, but I'll take it in the fall if I have to.

I have to take my mental health and med surg clinicals over in the fall anyway. Now I won't graduate until May 2008. But I'm not quitting!

I spent this week in clinicals for my third term. Getting up at 3:30am to drive for little over an hour to the clinical site hasn't been a thrill, but I have had the opportunity to put my classroom learning to use in hands on this week. I now only have eight more weeks of classroom time, one more week of clinicals after that, then ten weeks (240 hours) in an externship before I am eligible to take the NCLEX-PN. I am so excited!!!!

Oh, fun for you, mental health clinicals! At least med surg isn't as weird, but usually very challenging, expecially in an acute care setting. I will pray that you pass your final exam so that you won't have to also deal with that class again. What will you be graduating with in May 2008? BSN?

[SISTER Murphy]

Glad to hear this Steadfast!

It sounds like to me that you've had a heart attack. God is with you, but God also gave you the sense to take care of his vessel and you haven't been.

So, just add me to the ones harping to ya!

Still praying~!

I would say a rather acute case of congestive heart failure.

[SISTER Murphy]

When one's blood pressure is that high, yes, bed rest is necessary. Being up and about just increases it.

In most other cases, especially surgical ones, laying around isn't ideal.

I wish brother Steadfast would see a doctor and have some lab work done. I am concerned about his blood gases, and now about his potassium levels since he mentioned self medicating with 'water pills'. Some oxygen therapy would also probably go a long way in speeding his recovery, if it is CHF (and the excess fluid accompanied by the extremely high blood pressure are classic signs of this condition, as I know you well know.)

[SISTER Murphy]

Okay, folks, since several have been so kind to inquire about me I thought I'd give you an update.

I do have some medical professionals in my Church and have basically been told that I am suffering from congestive heart failure. By the time you are 'gurgling' and keep coughing up the white foamy stuff (I know, horrible word pictures here) they say you are close to drowning in your own fluids.

Evidently I was exactly at that point. I've been cold now for 3 days and keep yawning (symptoms of too little oxygen) but it IS getting better. I've been given some strong medicine to take some fluid off of me and (trust me on this one) it's WORKING.



Brother, those medical professionals are right, and I truly, truly hope that they have also counselled you to see a doctor. Those diuretics can have side effects like depleting your potassium levels, and that can very adversely affect your heart (even causing it to go into deadly arrythmias and/or stop beating. Also, the lack of oxygen creates an additional strain on your heart, making it work even harder, which is counterproductive to recovering quickly and without lasting adverse health effects to deal with down the road.

Because I care and don't wish to see a preacher of the gospel become debilitated and thus have physical issues to face on top of all of the other things that you deal with on a daily basis, I intreat you as a father to please, please, see a doctor, preferably before you go on a trip of any sort.

Sister Roxanne Murphy

[HeavenlyOne]

I spent this week in clinicals for my third term. Getting up at 3:30am to drive for little over an hour to the clinical site hasn't been a thrill, but I have had the opportunity to put my classroom learning to use in hands on this week. I now only have eight more weeks of classroom time, one more week of clinicals after that, then ten weeks (240 hours) in an externship before I am eligible to take the NCLEX-PN. I am so excited!!!!

Oh, fun for you, mental health clinicals! At least med surg isn't as weird, but usually very challenging, expecially in an acute care setting. I will pray that you pass your final exam so that you won't have to also deal with that class again. What will you be graduating with in May 2008? BSN?

RN. My BSN will hopefully come in 2011.

My final is next week and I'm still hoping for a miracle. Their guideline is to pass with an average of 80% or above. I'm at about 73% right now, but I took a test yesterday and with the final, I hope to make those points up.

Do you have the summer off? Guidelines vary from state to state, and it sounds like your requirements are much higher than Illinois...where I took my LPN classes.

I will find out in June if I'll be able to take my clinicals, since they have to wait and see how much room they have for the third semester students. They are pretty sure that I'll be able to get in.

I have the summer off and will be going to Virginia to visit my mom for about a month. I haven't seen her for a couple years and she's supposed to have gastric bypass surgery. I need to take care of her, thus the reason why I'll be there so long.

Good luck with everything, and keep me informed as to how you are doing.

[HeavenlyOne]

I wish brother Steadfast would see a doctor and have some lab work done. I am concerned about his blood gases, and now about his potassium levels since he mentioned self medicating with 'water pills'. Some oxygen therapy would also probably go a long way in speeding his recovery, if it is CHF (and the excess fluid accompanied by the extremely high blood pressure are classic signs of this condition, as I know you well know.)

You know your stuff!

Gotta love nursing students!!

[revrandy]

Brother...

One thing that hasn't been said of late... along with your trip...
YOU need some health insurance... so when these things happen you can go to a Doctor.. You had mentioned earlier you had none...

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Brother...

One thing that hasn't been said of late... along with your trip...
YOU need some health insurance... so when these things happen you can go to a Doctor.. You had mentioned earlier you had none...

He posted he hesitated to go to a doctor so MIB did not have blemishes to rate up his health insurance.

[SISTER Murphy]

RN. My BSN will hopefully come in 2011.

My final is next week and I'm still hoping for a miracle. Their guideline is to pass with an average of 80% or above. I'm at about 73% right now, but I took a test yesterday and with the final, I hope to make those points up.

Do you have the summer off? Guidelines vary from state to state, and it sounds like your requirements are much higher than Illinois...where I took my LPN classes.

I will find out in June if I'll be able to take my clinicals, since they have to wait and see how much room they have for the third semester students. They are pretty sure that I'll be able to get in.

I have the summer off and will be going to Virginia to visit my mom for about a month. I haven't seen her for a couple years and she's supposed to have gastric bypass surgery. I need to take care of her, thus the reason why I'll be there so long.

Good luck with everything, and keep me informed as to how you are doing.

This program that I am in is a 50 week, straight on through program. I get one week off in July (same week as the 4th) and just 4 days off at the end of July. My externship term starts July 31.

I don't know about other states, but I do know that Oregon is pretty stringent in what they require of prospective LPNs and RNs.

Hope your momma has a speedy recovery from her surgery with no complications!

Keep me posted on your school progress.

[SISTER Murphy]

You know your stuff!

Gotta love nursing students!!

:nod

Working in med/surg/oncology for two years in a small town hospital taught me alot about such conditions as CHF.

[Sherri]

Steadfast--
Enjoy that cruise! When we went on the Alaskan cruise, it was absolutely the most beautiful scenery we've ever seen! The glaciers are breathtaking; we loved it!

[ForeverBlessed]

Dear One,

I realize what you are saying is true. I sincerely AM making plans right now to get things 'fixed'.

Thank you for your kindness.

I'm praying for you, but have worried... glad you are going to get away for a while.

Sounds like you have a wonderful bunch of people at your church.

Blessings, Lisa

[Malvaro]

I bet he'd get it if he needed it!

doubt it :D