View Full Version : Makeup....is it natural?
RevDWW
05-01-2007, 11:56 AM
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
Felicity
05-01-2007, 11:58 AM
It IS natural. Women have been using cosmetics in all its various forms since the beginning of time pretty much.
Modesty and exemplifying godliness is the issue. These principles have been in place and expressed throughout the Word of God from the beginning to the end.
It IS natural. Women have been using cosmetics in all its various forms since the beginning of time pretty much.
Modesty and exemplifying godliness is the issue. These principles have been in place and expressed throughout the Word of God from the beginning to the end.
Are eyeglasses natural????
rgcraig
05-01-2007, 12:01 PM
Oh, this should be a good thread..............
Is makeup natural ???... if it's made from plants ... it is ...
HeavenlyOne
05-01-2007, 12:03 PM
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
No, and it's only in the animal world where the males have to really work to be noticed or get ignored!! Hahahahaha!
RevDWW
05-01-2007, 12:04 PM
Are eyeglasses natural????
The main purpose of eye glasses are for seeing, correct? Not to be seen.
What is the main purpose for cosmetics?
Theresa
05-01-2007, 12:06 PM
if you want to split hairs about what's "natural" - you have to address perms, hot rollers, curling irons, eyelash curlers, CLEAR lip gloss, mousse, gel, hair spray...on and on and on..
none of it is natural.
But women use the products to enhance their God given looks...
some use it and its undetectable, others look like a clown.
the reasons for using it are as many as the people that use the products...
but, IMO, using one product is no different than using another.
To split hairs over who's more saved b/c their use of these UNNATURAL products is less noticeable, is silly.
I chose not to do some things b/c that's where I feel comfortable in my "boundaries"....we all draw our lines in the sand differently. I'm not going to judge another based on their personal convictions.
The main purpose of eye glasses are for seeing, correct? Not to be seen.
If they are corrective eyeglasses.
if you want to split hairs about what's "natural" - you have to address perms, hot rollers, curling irons, eyelash curlers, CLEAR lip gloss, mousse, gel, hair spray...on and on and on..
none of it is natural.
But women use the products to enhance their God given looks...
some use it and its undetectable, others look like a clown.
the reasons for using it are as many as the people that use the products...
but, IMO, using one product is no different than using another.
To split hairs over who's more saved b/c their use of these UNNATURAL products is less noticeable, is silly.
I chose not to do some things b/c that's where I feel comfortable in my "boundaries"....we all draw our lines in the sand differently. I'm not going to judge another based on their personal convictions.
Well said ...
Esther
05-01-2007, 12:13 PM
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
If you want to compare to the animals, then is wearing clothes natural? After all, the animals don't wear clothing.:2cents
Felicity
05-01-2007, 12:13 PM
The main purpose of eye glasses are for seeing, correct? Not to be seen.
What is the main purpose for cosmetics?A lot of women and men wear glasses for "cosmetic" purposes. They don't really need them. :cool:
Esther
05-01-2007, 12:14 PM
A lot of women and men wear glasses for "cosmetic" purposes. They don't really need them. :cool:
surely not!
I hate to wear glasses!!!
Technically even deoderant is not natural.
SoCaliUPC
05-01-2007, 12:22 PM
Technically even deoderant is not natural.
Thad....deoderant gets a pass. When you weigh the opposite of no deoderant........especially in the Hot Valley......
I think the reason specifically makeup is preached against is because women use if for sex appeal. Now, I know some are going to say that they use clothing for the same BUT , clothing is mandatory clothing you just have to correct.
for those who advocate makeup, what do you say when it comes up that makeup was always mentioned in the bible with rebellion and harlotry ?
Felicity
05-01-2007, 12:26 PM
I think the reason specifically makeup is preached against is because women use if for sex appeal. Now, I know some are going to say that they use clothing for the same BUT , clothing is mandatory clothing you just have to correct.
for those who advocate makeup, what do you say when it comes up that makeup was always mentioned in the bible with rebellion and harlotry ?Not everybody uses makeup for sex appeal. I hate that argument when made as a blanket statement! :thumbsdown
Theresa
05-01-2007, 12:28 PM
I think the reason specifically makeup is preached against is because women use if for sex appeal. Now, I know some are going to say that they use clothing for the same BUT , clothing is mandatory clothing you just have to correct.
for those who advocate makeup, what do you say when it comes up that makeup was always mentioned in the bible with rebellion and harlotry ?
women use a whole lot more than clothes and makeup for "sex appeal"...
I dont personally think that is why it's preached against.
Women do a lot of what they do to make themselves feel better - and to "impress" other women.
If you want to make something a sin b/c its a trap to get a man, you better start looking hard at pecan pie
LOL
:girlnails
It's like say all guns are used to murder ....
Felicity
05-01-2007, 12:29 PM
Women can "dress" for sex appeal. Hello!
Theresa
05-01-2007, 12:29 PM
It's like say all guns are used to murder ....
exactly
Not everybody uses makeup for sex appeal. I hate that argument when made as a blanket statement! :thumbsdown
I had a very close friend, as conservative as they come...she was African American.
She had a disease known as scleroderma...it effects the skin, making it rock hard. The eventual end is the hardness goes internal, the organs harden and they die, which is exactly what happened.
About a year before she passed, her skin began to darken, but just in spots. She wore light makeup to cover the blotches.
Sex appeal had nothing to do with it...
Not everybody uses makeup for sex appeal. I hate that argument when made as a blanket statement! :thumbsdown
I was only pointing out as to WHY i remember it being taught against.
I think they hit on the clothing quite a bit too
nathan_slatter
05-01-2007, 12:43 PM
I wore make up once. For a school play.
Scott Hutchinson
05-01-2007, 12:50 PM
I do believe in modesty and being Holy Outwardly as well as Inwardly.
But the females in Israel in in Bible times did use cosmetics to protect their skin from the sun ,and such and I think they did use some stuff around their eyebrows one of the names of One of Job's daughters meant horn paint after a cosmetic that was carried in a horn.
Christian men and women should carry themselves in a manner that reflects heavenly citizenship.
MrsMcD
05-01-2007, 01:26 PM
if you want to split hairs about what's "natural" - you have to address perms, hot rollers, curling irons, eyelash curlers, CLEAR lip gloss, mousse, gel, hair spray...on and on and on..
none of it is natural.
But women use the products to enhance their God given looks...
some use it and its undetectable, others look like a clown.
the reasons for using it are as many as the people that use the products...
but, IMO, using one product is no different than using another.
To split hairs over who's more saved b/c their use of these UNNATURAL products is less noticeable, is silly.
I chose not to do some things b/c that's where I feel comfortable in my "boundaries"....we all draw our lines in the sand differently. I'm not going to judge another based on their personal convictions.
Great Post Theresa!
Esther
05-01-2007, 01:27 PM
I had a very close friend, as conservative as they come...she was African American.
She had a disease known as scleroderma...it effects the skin, making it rock hard. The eventual end is the hardness goes internal, the organs harden and they die, which is exactly what happened.
About a year before she passed, her skin began to darken, but just in spots. She wore light makeup to cover the blotches.
Sex appeal had nothing to do with it...
My MIL had that also. A terrible disease with no cure.
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!Make-up did not exist in the Garden of Eden and, therefore, is not "natural."
Make-up did not exist in the Garden of Eden and, therefore, is not "natural."
Neither did a Lexus ....
Makeup can be "natural" ....
http://www.theorganicmakeupcompany.com/ (http://www.theorganicmakeupcompany.com/)
MrsBOOMM
05-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Is there even scripture to support combing our hair? After all have you ever seen animals trying out a new do?
MrsMcD
05-01-2007, 01:39 PM
Is there even scripture to support combing our hair? After all have you ever seen animals trying out a new do?
:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
Rhoni
05-01-2007, 01:40 PM
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
We're not animals, birds, or pests...well not all of us.:hypercoffee
Rhoni
05-01-2007, 01:42 PM
The main purpose of eye glasses are for seeing, correct? Not to be seen.
What is the main purpose for cosmetics?
To cover flaws and enhance beautiful features!
Blessings, Rhoni
P.S. Thank God for mascara:girlnails
tbpew
05-01-2007, 01:44 PM
I had a very close friend, as conservative as they come...she was African American.
She had a disease known as scleroderma...it effects the skin, making it rock hard. The eventual end is the hardness goes internal, the organs harden and they die, which is exactly what happened.
About a year before she passed, her skin began to darken, but just in spots. She wore light makeup to cover the blotches.
Sex appeal had nothing to do with it...
Isn't this almost a clear example of the "Exception PROVING the Rule".
Nobody would even comment about the use of external applications that are needed to minimize the preceived public scorn from someone needing to move about in an insensitive and judgmental surrounding.
Make-up's multi-billion dollar industry revenues are not from that customer base.
Make-up is all about modifying facial appearance to conform with some societal preception of beauty. It is fully based on affecting an outcome in the realm that humans look upon, the outward. If that is where a woman's beauty is, best wishes and enjoy your teens and twenties, then do your best to reconcile that you best years are behind you. How SAD!
A meek and a quiet spirit are beautiful and free of the cost and time of external applicants.
Rhoni
05-01-2007, 01:45 PM
I think the reason specifically makeup is preached against is because women use if for sex appeal. Now, I know some are going to say that they use clothing for the same BUT , clothing is mandatory clothing you just have to correct.
for those who advocate makeup, what do you say when it comes up that makeup was always mentioned in the bible with rebellion and harlotry ?
Don't be silly...Rahab wasn't known for her make-up but for helping hide the men of God, and she was part of the lineage of Christ. Queen Jezebel had lots of make-up and she wasn't a harlot...she was pretty rebellious though!:girlnails
Rhoni
05-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Thad http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?p=94467#post94467)
I think the reason specifically makeup is preached against is because women use if for sex appeal. Now, I know some are going to say that they use clothing for the same BUT , clothing is mandatory clothing you just have to correct.
Women can wear or not wear make-up and still have sex appeal, especially when men's minds are focused on it. The problem is the minds of men, not the make-up of women!
Just being honest here...
Rhoni;)
These UC's are something else ... if I were to venture at least 8 of 10 preach against makeup ... but their wives have at least one form of makeup in their purse right now ...
It's like those whose wives own tvs and subscribe to cable .....
Felicity
05-01-2007, 01:51 PM
Make-up is all about modifying facial appearance to conform with some societal preception of beauty.Another blanket statement that is not necessarily true and that doesn't apply to all women as to why they wear minimal makeup.
Sheltiedad
05-01-2007, 01:51 PM
Is there even scripture to support combing our hair? After all have you ever seen animals trying out a new do?
And still no one has defended deodorant/anti-perspirant... God gave us a natural odor, who are we to try to remove it?
Same thing with men shaving... if God wanted your face naked, he would not have put the hair there. This one is actually kind of funny because in bible times, the jews had beards and the romans were clean-shaven... probably to appeal to their vanity, not to mention other ideas that I am afraid to mention here. lol.
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
Have not read any posts on this thread except your initial one here. My first thought are some questions for you (subtly designed to point out the false conundrum you present in this thread)
- Do you know any animals that put on deoderant?
- Do you know any animals that pick out and wear clothes?
- Do you know any animals that wear pantyhose, ties, etc?
I could go on but I trust you get my point.
Women can wear or not wear make-up and still have sex appeal, especially when men's minds are focused on it. The problem is the minds of men, not the make-up of women!
Just being honest here...
Rhoni;)
They can wear a Burqa ... and still the problem is with the lust in one's heart....
http://respiracreative.com/burqa.jpg
tbpew
05-01-2007, 01:55 PM
Another blanket statement that is not necessarily true and that doesn't apply to all women as to why they wear minimal makeup.
Please share your understanding of the other reasons.
CupCake
05-01-2007, 01:58 PM
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
People eat animal, as well~
CupCake
05-01-2007, 02:01 PM
They can wear a Burqa ... and still the problem is with the lust in one's heart....
http://respiracreative.com/burqa.jpg
Very true Dan, from this pic you can still tell this women in good bodily shape and most likely a young mother, not some old gal who had ten kids... Her shoe are telling in themselves, she young~
Felicity
05-01-2007, 02:14 PM
Please share your understanding of the other reasons.
To cover and minimize flaws.
To assist in making what looks unnatural more natural.
To make oneself more attractive in the same way that women and men dress to present themselves in an appealing, eye-catching manner.
Women and men both consider colour and style when considering wardrobe purchases. Why? Because they want to flatter and present in the best possible ways what they've been born with.
For the same reason that women style their hair in a way that they feel compliments their appearance and their face.
For the same reason women and men wear scent.
For the same reason women and men tan.
To moisturize and nourish and care for the largest organ of the body - our skin and complexion.
They can wear a Burqa ... and still the problem is with the lust in one's heart....
http://respiracreative.com/burqa.jpgI'm in favor of women wearing burqas (for modesty purposes) but I agree that men would still lust.
HeavenlyOne
05-01-2007, 02:19 PM
The main purpose of eye glasses are for seeing, correct? Not to be seen.
What is the main purpose for cosmetics?
Oh, come on! If it wasn't for fashion, there would only be one type to choose from!
Anybody who shops for glasses tries on several pair to get the one that looks best on them.
Oh, come on! If it wasn't for fashion, there would only be one type to choose from!
Anybody who shops for glasses tries on several pair to get the one that looks best on them.And mine just happens to be a pair made in 1920 that I bought from an antique shop.
HeavenlyOne
05-01-2007, 02:21 PM
Make-up did not exist in the Garden of Eden and, therefore, is not "natural."
Neither did clothing. :D
HeavenlyOne
05-01-2007, 02:24 PM
And mine just happens to be a pair made in 1920 that I bought from an antique shop.
I bet people turn their heads to look when you wear them too!
Are they worth anything?
I'm in favor of women wearing burqas (for modesty purposes) but I agree that men would still lust.
You can't be serious ... although I've known some ladies that would benefit from a paper bag over their heads.
tbpew
05-01-2007, 02:36 PM
You can't be serious ... although I've known some ladies that would benefit from a paper bag over their heads.
From what I have read of his posts,
"Serious" is the only channel Chan broadcasts on.
Felicity
05-01-2007, 02:44 PM
Men lust after women with no makeup if she's attractive to them.
Some women are born with great bodies and beauty or physical attractiveness. Some aren't. So what's wrong with doing what you can to make up for what didn't come natural?
It's okay for a woman to be naturally beautiful but wrong or sinful for a woman to use makeup to enhance and make the most of what they've been born with? I don't think so. :nah I mean if attractiveness and beauty is the issue here that would mean women should do what's necessary to make themselves unattractive. Makeup could be used for that purpose too. LOL. :toofunny
It's possible to wear minimum makeup and maintain modesty, humility, and a meek and quiet spirit. Many women do.
Makeup is not used by all women to increase sex appeal anymore than the fact that style, colour, and personality can't be used for the same purpose. This is just NOT the truth.
Felicity
05-01-2007, 02:45 PM
You can't be serious ... although I've known some ladies that would benefit from a paper bag over their heads.But that wouldn't be natural. :heeheehee
And still no one has defended deodorant/anti-perspirant... God gave us a natural odor, who are we to try to remove it?
Same thing with men shaving... if God wanted your face naked, he would not have put the hair there. This one is actually kind of funny because in bible times, the jews had beards and the romans were clean-shaven... probably to appeal to their vanity, not to mention other ideas that I am afraid to mention here. lol.
Surely the "natural" argument has gaping holes in logic ....
I think Rev DWW is telling God he "made a mistake" when God gave him his natural body odor and he tries to thwart it with anti perspiriant and cover up the smell with deoderant. What a shame............
(The logic that tries to purport God would have a problem with a woman covering up pimples and other perfections to look nicer baffles me)
I think Rev DWW is telling God he "made a mistake" when God gave him his natural body odor and he tries to thwart it with anti perspiriant and cover up the smell with deoderant. What a shame............
(The logic that tries to purport God would have a problem with a woman covering up pimples and other perfections to look nicer baffles me)
If it doesn't fit .. you must acquit.
I bet people turn their heads to look when you wear them too!They don't even notice.
Are they worth anything?Even though the frames do contain some gold, they're probably not worth more than the $10 I paid for them.
Neither did clothing. :DBut God did make clothing for Adam and Eve after they sinned and before He cast them out of the Garden.
RevDWW
05-01-2007, 04:26 PM
I think Rev DWW is telling God he "made a mistake" when God gave him his natural body odor and he tries to thwart it with anti perspiriant and cover up the smell with deoderant. What a shame............
(The logic that tries to purport God would have a problem with a woman covering up pimples and other perfections to look nicer baffles me)
What if I don't use anti-perspirant or deodorant? Can a person not use these and still smell ok?
What if I don't use anti-perspirant or deodorant? Can a person not use these and still smell ok?
Weak ....:coffee2
RevDWW
05-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Weak ....:coffee2
Some are easy to jump to conclusions aren't they? :popcorn2
What if I don't use anti-perspirant or deodorant? Can a person not use these and still smell ok?
Somewhere in the world I am sure there is a man or two whose sweat does not stink. So far I have not met him though.
BO varies from person to person. Some just smell bad without deodarant / anti perspirant and others are just downright rank without it.
Ronzo
05-01-2007, 06:08 PM
Somewhere in the world I am sure there is a man or two whose sweat does not stink. So far I have not met him though.
BO varies from person to person. Some just smell bad without deodarant / anti perspirant and others are just downright rank without it.
Hey dude... been meaning to talk to you about sum'n... got a minute? *cough*
Hey dude... been meaning to talk to you about sum'n... got a minute? *cough*
LOL!!!
Vegas
05-01-2007, 06:14 PM
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RevDWW
05-01-2007, 06:19 PM
Somewhere in the world I am sure there is a man or two whose sweat does not stink. So far I have not met him though.
BO varies from person to person. Some just smell bad without deodarant / anti perspirant and others are just downright rank without it.
Could the stink be related to diet? I took a computer class with a couple of gals from India and man could they clear a space in the computer lab.......: :uhoh :faint
Could the stink be related to diet? I took a computer class with a couple of gals from India and man could they clear a space in the computer lab.......: :uhoh :faint
Nothing like curry seeping through the pores. Also folks with a diet almost exclusively of fish have a smell that comes through their pores.
I am sure the reverse is true and us red meat eaters probably have a smell foreign to those folks.
Here is a bit of smell trivia. Did you know that white people smell like a wet dog to many black folks? I heard that from a black person on NPR and then asked a black person about it and they laughed and agreed.
Newman
05-01-2007, 08:59 PM
I'm in favor of women wearing burqas (for modesty purposes) but I agree that men would still lust.
I was just speed reading through these posts without looking at the names of the posters when I got to this post. I knew it had to be Chan!!!! Nevertheless, surprised that loathing of women goes this far. :coffee2
PrudenceTheGypsy
05-01-2007, 09:03 PM
What if a very prudent gypsy came to your church and had the Holy Ghost would I be used in your services? It is hard to completely do away with my cultural influences overnight. What is this board about? Is Apostolic like the Catholic Church?
What if a very prudent gypsy came to your church and had the Holy Ghost would I be used in your services? It is hard to completely do away with my cultural influences overnight. What is this board about? Is Apostolic like the Catholic Church?
Yes. Exactly like the Catholic Church except that Elder Epely is our Pope.
As a Gypsy you can keep the scarf on your head but the hoop earrings have to go for most of the folks on this forum and the crystal ball has to be trashed for all of us.
PrudenceTheGypsy
05-01-2007, 09:13 PM
Life is not easy, sir, or maam, CC1, for a woman called Prudence The Gypsy. There is a self proclaimed pope here? Maybe I am in the wrong place. Does this have anything to do with cnn?
Life is not easy, sir, or maam, CC1, for a woman called Prudence The Gypsy. There is a self proclaimed pope here? Maybe I am in the wrong place. Does this have anything to do with cnn?
Our only connection to CNN is that we pray for it's founder Ted Turner for saying that Christianity is a crutch for the weakminded.
We fear he may be destined for the special Hitler wing of Hell where the 9-11 hijackers are residing and which recently expanded to accept the idiot who shot all of his fellow students and teachers at that University.
Felicity
05-01-2007, 09:20 PM
I tell you this has turned into a freak show round here tonight. LOL. :tvhappy
PrudenceTheGypsy
05-01-2007, 09:21 PM
cc1, your name is much like ccn. you know some of the things others type here connects the dots. i am here to learn the wisdom of the apostolics, one lesson at a time. when i am finished, i will know all everyone here knows plus what i know so i will be smarter than any here. is it not so?
PrudenceTheGypsy
05-01-2007, 09:24 PM
I tell you this has turned into a freak show round here tonight. LOL. :tvhappy
ma'am, are you calling me a freak? i am always called prudent the gypsy because ppl do not think a gypsy can be prudent and my name is prudence and i am a gypsy.
cc1, your name is much like ccn. you know some of the things others type here connects the dots. i am here to learn the wisdom of the apostolics, one lesson at a time. when i am finished, i will know all everyone here knows plus what i know so i will be smarter than any here. is it not so?
Do you have a relative named Borat?
PrudenceTheGypsy
05-01-2007, 09:28 PM
Borat Sagdiyev (born July 30, 1972) (Kazakh Cyrillic: Борат Сагдійев) is a fictional Kazakhstani journalist conceived and performed by British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen. He is the eponymous protagonist of the controversial and successful mockumentary Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan. I am a true gypsy. Borat is an impostor.
http://www.telegram.com/static/screensavers/photos/pats/tom_brady1024.jpg
Real men wear face paint ....
Felicity
05-01-2007, 09:37 PM
ma'am, are you calling me a freak? i am always called prudent the gypsy because ppl do not think a gypsy can be prudent and my name is prudence and i am a gypsy.:toofunny
*goes to check if there's a full moon in the sky*
HeavenlyOne
05-01-2007, 10:01 PM
:toofunny
*goes to check if there's a full moon in the sky*
There is.
What if I don't use anti-perspirant or deodorant? Can a person not use these and still smell ok?
Actually, I have heard that part of the reason why we smell so bad is because we don't drink enough water and eat the wrong kinds of foods. Also, our body becomes conditioned to the perfumes in things like laundry soap, regular soap, deodorant, and whatnot. Several years back I did an experiment where I stopped using soap, deodorant, and colognes, and, while it took about a month for my body to adjust, I found that my body had it's own sweet sort of odor to it, not offensive in any way. That time of adjusting was something else though! LOL! BTW, I have since gone back to using deodorants, colognes, and whatnot.
Felicity
05-01-2007, 10:21 PM
There is.Aha! ;) :)
Thumbsucker
05-01-2007, 10:37 PM
I think I'll go see if that full moon is shinning here, Nite Nite
Felicity
05-01-2007, 10:40 PM
I think I'll go see if that full moon is shinning here, Nite NiteWe've got cloud cover here so I can't see it, but I think the loonies have all gone to bed. LOL!
Goodnite bro! :)
PrudenceTheGypsy
05-01-2007, 10:52 PM
We've got cloud cover here so I can't see it, but I think the loonies have all gone to bed. LOL!
Goodnite bro! :)
you would not be calling prudence the gypsy a looney? i am still awake. i am here to learn from ccn and the foxynews people about abcs and nbcs and all that american media can tell me about apostolics who are friends.
Thumbsucker
05-01-2007, 11:00 PM
Hey Prude,
You seem to have lost your accent on post 79 and then recovered it quickly.
Nite Nite again.
Felicity
05-01-2007, 11:22 PM
you would not be calling prudence the gypsy a looney? i am still awake. i am here to learn from ccn and the foxynews people about abcs and nbcs and all that american media can tell me about apostolics who are friends.I haven't decided yet if you're a real genuine bonafide looney or a fake looney. :toofunny
;) :D
I haven't decided yet if you're a real genuine bonafide looney or a fake looney. :toofunny
;) :D
My inner beings feeling tells me this is a fake looney...someone we know...boring!!:coffee2
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
If make up is wrong than nothing should be done to the body for culture or enhancement. Such as.
Shaving legs, plucking eyebrows, tanning, clipping nails, toe nails or any etc.
Many times folks have no understanding of the fullness of their stance.
If make up is wrong than nothing should be done to the body for culture or enhancement. Such as.
Shaving legs, plucking eyebrows, tanning, clipping nails, toe nails or any etc.
Many times folks have no understanding of the fullness of their stance.
Oh most understand. They are just in denial. The result is what I call "pretzel logic". That is where they try to defend these unbiblical standards and why they are so inconsistent in application of their logic.
Hoovie
05-02-2007, 09:06 AM
Actually, I have heard that part of the reason why we smell so bad is because we don't drink enough water and eat the wrong kinds of foods. Also, our body becomes conditioned to the perfumes in things like laundry soap, regular soap, deodorant, and whatnot. Several years back I did an experiment where I stopped using soap, deodorant, and colognes, and, while it took about a month for my body to adjust, I found that my body had it's own sweet sort of odor to it, not offensive in any way. That time of adjusting was something else though! LOL! BTW, I have since gone back to using deodorants, colognes, and whatnot.
It is actually a defensive mechanism that the nose resorts to after about 30 days!
It is actually a defensive mechanism that the nose resorts to after about 30 days!
You are exactly right. Rico may have no longer smelled himself but I can guarantee you that those around him sure could unless they also had desensitized their nose by doing the same.
My Marine son told me about that phenomena while in the Al Anbar province of Iraq. They would not take showers for weeks on end and almost hated to when they finally did because once the Marines were all clean their noses became sensitive again and as guys got smelly again they couldn't stand the stink for a few weeks while the desensitization process started to work again.
You are exactly right. Rico may have no longer smelled himself but I can guarantee you that those around him sure could unless they also had desensitized their nose by doing the same.
My Marine son told me about that phenomena while in the Al Anbar province of Iraq. They would not take showers for weeks on end and almost hated to when they finally did because once the Marines were all clean their noses became sensitive again and as guys got smelly again they couldn't stand the stink for a few weeks while the desensitization process started to work again.
Did I say I didn't take a shower? I said I stopped using deodorant, colognes, and soap. You would be surprised at how pleasant your natural scent is, once you get all the perfurmes out of your body.
CupCake
05-02-2007, 11:57 AM
I wore make up once. For a school play.
Now you resembles a mushroom~:hypercoffee
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/image.php?u=384&dateline=1177513509
Oh most understand. They are just in denial. The result is what I call "pretzel logic". That is where they try to defend these unbiblical standards and why they are so inconsistent in application of their logic.
I totally agree
Did I say I didn't take a shower? I said I stopped using deodorant, colognes, and soap. You would be surprised at how pleasant your natural scent is, once you get all the perfurmes out of your body.
That is one surprise I am never going to know. Even if you are correct I would not force my friends, family, and co workers to have to smell me for weeks during the process you describe.
Emma Bontrager
05-03-2007, 07:41 AM
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
I have never naturally grown make-up on my face at any time.
pastorrush
10-07-2009, 10:40 AM
I used to work in a meat dept. at a major grocery chain and all out dated meat and bad meat was put in meat pails to be picked up at the end of each week. One time curosity got the best of me so I asked my manager what they did to the meat. He said cosmetic take it for use in their products. Makes you wonder what some ladies really realize what they are putting on their faces. Words for thought.:gotcha
Jeffrey
10-07-2009, 10:54 AM
And hair gel. And hair spray. And hot dogs. And toothpaste. And anything with ingredient that consist of some chemical that you can't read.
simplyme
10-07-2009, 11:42 AM
I used to work in a meat dept. at a major grocery chain and all out dated meat and bad meat was put in meat pails to be picked up at the end of each week. One time curosity got the best of me so I asked my manager what they did to the meat. He said cosmetic take it for use in their products. Makes you wonder what some ladies really realize what they are putting on their faces. Words for thought.:gotcha
I've NEVER ever liked makeup, even when I was in the world, although THEN I tried it, yet could never find one that didn't make me "break out" itch, turn my skin red, mascara made my eyes itch & water BADly, etc.etc., it just wasn't meant for me., I thought "GOOD" I never liked that junk anyway! I could never reason WHY women {especially the youngest little girls today} with already beautiful skin, would want to cover it up! *shrug*
There's no tellin what all is in that stuff, but it can't be good if it just didn't "take" to my own natural skin, GOD wouldn't stand for it for me~
now I know why, :D
I've been extremely blessed to have a good complexion., (genes?) Not even much acne as a teen., two of my sons inherited this great skin and also didn't suffer much as teens., Hallelujah!
I also live in a very humid climate, I can't imagine trying to keep that gunk from turning into slime and drippin off~I see women whom like just awful 'round here., I'm thinkin that IF they somehow manage to keep it, oh I don't know "stable"(?), it must take some pretty industrial strength (more chemicals) stabilizer or somethin, lol
The women in my family with whom I grew up with, also DID NOT use any except for one aunt., whom at age 40 looked about 65! Seriously! That stuff ages skin somethin awful!
Jeffrey
10-07-2009, 11:50 AM
Health effects of make-up, and scriptural prohibitions are separate arguments. I'm not a huge fan personally of make-up either. My family, with the exception of occassional cover-up, rarely wears make-up. But to insist it's a sin, part of "holiness" or is prohibited in scripture is ludicrous.
RandyWayne
10-07-2009, 02:25 PM
I've NEVER ever liked makeup, even when I was in the world, although THEN I tried it, yet could never find one that didn't make me "break out" itch, turn my skin red, mascara made my eyes itch & water BADly, etc.etc., it just wasn't meant for me., I thought "GOOD" I never liked that junk anyway! I could never reason WHY women {especially the youngest little girls today} with already beautiful skin, would want to cover it up! *shrug*
There's no tellin what all is in that stuff, but it can't be good if it just didn't "take" to my own natural skin, GOD wouldn't stand for it for me~
now I know why, :D
I've been extremely blessed to have a good complexion., (genes?) Not even much acne as a teen., two of my sons inherited this great skin and also didn't suffer much as teens., Hallelujah!
I also live in a very humid climate, I can't imagine trying to keep that gunk from turning into slime and drippin off~I see women whom like just awful 'round here., I'm thinkin that IF they somehow manage to keep it, oh I don't know "stable"(?), it must take some pretty industrial strength (more chemicals) stabilizer or somethin, lol
The women in my family with whom I grew up with, also DID NOT use any except for one aunt., whom at age 40 looked about 65! Seriously! That stuff ages skin somethin awful!
That's what colored Sharpie markers are for!
As far as make up aging the skin I would be willing to bet my last dollar in life that the Sun if FAR more damaging than any amount of make up that could be applied (unless of course your allergic to it to begin with). Ever 40 year old who looks 65 I have ever seen looks that way because of too much sun and (usually) too much smoking.
ForeverBlessed
10-07-2009, 02:57 PM
That's what colored Sharpie markers are for!
As far as make up aging the skin I would be willing to bet my last dollar in life that the Sun if FAR more damaging than any amount of make up that could be applied (unless of course your allergic to it to begin with). Ever 40 year old who looks 65 I have ever seen looks that way because of too much fun and (usually) too much smoking.
Sun... exactly..even if your skin is great, it will catch up with you.
Smoking causes great damage too... I can tell a woman smokes by the small lines around the mouth and there is almost a sallow look to the skin. Also... as someone who is on the phone w/work... I can usually guess the smokers by the damage to the voice.
Jeffrey
10-08-2009, 09:41 AM
While direct sun exposure is more dangerous, this does not overrule the point that make-up is not good for your skin, except it is applied in moderation, and one is selective about the make-up they use.
SeekingOne
10-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Not wanting to get a fight started or anything, but are there any animals that apply colors from nature to themselves to enhance their appeal?
Aren't most of the beautiful birds males? Do the female birds have to get dolled up to be noticed?
:hmmm :hmmm :hmmm :hmmm
Just wondering!
Are we turning into evolutionist now? I don't want to be compared to animals as if I am supposed to be like them.
Now that said, I do not wear makeup and it is funny to find this thread today. I was just discussing this topic with my husband.
I have noticed that women that wear makeup look awful when they don't and women that don't wear make up look fine without it. I think makeup must keep their face from getting enough sun to get natural color or something.
I don't think all makeup is bad, nor do I think everyone who wears nail polish is doing so to attract men. LOL Women like to look pretty and I think God made us that way, so why make it seem that God doesn't want women to look pretty?
Just because I like to do other things to make myself pretty, other than finger nail polish and makeup, that doesn't mean I should decide makeup and nail polish is bad.
Should us girls start looking for clothing that makes us ugly? Should I pick dress fabric that makes me look dead instead of the ones that go with my skin color? Oh, maybe I should not post this! It might become the next "holiness" thing. :spit
pelathais
10-10-2009, 04:01 PM
While direct sun exposure is more dangerous, this does not overrule the point that make-up is not good for your skin, except it is applied in moderation, and one is selective about the make-up they use.
The right kind of stuff may even help to protect against the sun's damaging UV rays.
I'm no expert - but I think most make up today is manufactured with the goal of also treating and moisturizing the skin.
I just never liked the "painted on" appearance. "Convictions" or no, there's just something odd about the way some ladies appear to have been suckered into plastering way too much gunk on their faces.
pelathais
10-10-2009, 04:07 PM
Are we turning into evolutionist now? I don't want to be compared to animals as if I am supposed to be like them.
That's another thread: http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=26662
And we do have a lot in common with the animal kingdom, biologically. But we human beings are a particular type of critter - and the only one of this type on the planet. So, while we "are like the animals" - we are also unique.
Maybe the "need" some folks feel to paint themselves up relates to the way in which one or more of these "unique attributes" of humans has been either manipulated for gain or just somehow deteriorated in a way that actually may dishonor the individual.
Now that said, I do not wear makeup and it is funny to find this thread today. I was just discussing this topic with my husband.
I have noticed that women that wear makeup look awful when they don't and women that don't wear make up look fine without it. I think makeup must keep their face from getting enough sun to get natural color or something.
I don't think all makeup is bad, nor do I think everyone who wears nail polish is doing so to attract men. LOL Women like to look pretty and I think God made us that way, so why make it seem that God doesn't want women to look pretty?
Just because I like to do other things to make myself pretty, other than finger nail polish and makeup, that doesn't mean I should decide makeup and nail polish is bad.
Should us girls start looking for clothing that makes us ugly? Should I pick dress fabric that makes me look dead instead of the ones that go with my skin color? Oh, maybe I should not post this! It might become the next "holiness" thing. :spit
Sherri
10-10-2009, 04:32 PM
Bare Essentials makeup is good for your skin, and looks natural. It is so light, you don't even feel like you have makeup on. I don't think I'll ever go back to the liquid stuff, after wearing this for almost a year.
pelathais
10-10-2009, 05:38 PM
Bare Essentials makeup is good for your skin, and looks natural. It is so light, you don't even feel like you have makeup on. I don't think I'll ever go back to the liquid stuff, after wearing this for almost a year.
Yeah, but looking at your avatar - this stuff makes it look like you have a goatee or something.
The Mrs
10-10-2009, 06:47 PM
Bare Essentials makeup is good for your skin, and looks natural. It is so light, you don't even feel like you have makeup on. I don't think I'll ever go back to the liquid stuff, after wearing this for almost a year.
This is what I use too...LOVE IT! :thumbsup
The Mrs
10-10-2009, 06:49 PM
Yeah, but looking at your avatar - this stuff makes it look like you have a goatee or something.
I got your back Sherri!
Pel--> :smack <--Mrs
Sherri
10-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Yeah, but looking at your avatar - this stuff makes it look like you have a goatee or something.Very funny! Those are the MEN IN MY LIFE! :foottap
pelathais
10-10-2009, 08:29 PM
Very funny! Those are the MEN IN MY LIFE! :foottap
Ohhh! And fine men indeed. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Baron1710
10-10-2009, 08:32 PM
Ohhh! And fine men indeed. http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Just goes to show you, once you leave the UPC you can't even tell the men from the women.:ursofunny
simplyme
10-11-2009, 04:56 PM
I was lookin at an ad promoting Bare Essentials, at how well it covers up
acne, birthmarks, etc., and yet some say that it barely "looks" or "feels" like makeup?
Well what do ya think makeup is for?
If its strong enough to cover up those things, it MUST have
some heavy duty ingredients in order to be able to do that., now whether those 'ingredients' are natural or not, is a bit confusing; are they really natural?
Perhaps they're using peanut butter? Peanuts are natural - butter?
Coloring? Preservatives (for that PB)?? :nah
I think that their claims are rather insulting to the person of average intellect; can anyone ACTUALLY believe :koolaid that it is "all-natural"?
IF they do, well gee I bet it'd be easy to convince them of some other things., whomever first coined the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted"...evidently had a part in inventing, or at the very least,
marketing' Bare Minerals make-up and/or related products, lol
Surely those actresses on t.v. are getting paid VERY WELL, for their part
in promoting such products., and poor poor make-up artists, :tissue
they must all be standing in unemployment lines by now.
VANITY VANITY
is "vexation" of the Spirit.
pelathais
10-11-2009, 05:10 PM
Just goes to show you, once you leave the UPC you can't even tell the men from the women.:ursofunny
Ah... no, dude! I was just poking fun at the "all natural" line of products - with which I have no real experience or personal knowledge.
The lovely and gracious Sherri is all lady and I wouldn't pick a fight with her hubbie.
Sherri
10-11-2009, 05:48 PM
I was lookin at an ad promoting Bare Essentials, at how well it covers up
acne, birthmarks, etc., and yet some say that it barely "looks" or "feels" like makeup?
Well what do ya think makeup is for?
If its strong enough to cover up those things, it MUST have
some heavy duty ingredients in order to be able to do that., now whether those 'ingredients' are natural or not, is a bit confusing; are they really natural?
Perhaps they're using peanut butter? Peanuts are natural - butter?
Coloring? Preservatives (for that PB)?? :nah
I think that their claims are rather insulting to the person of average intellect; can anyone ACTUALLY believe :koolaid that it is "all-natural"?
IF they do, well gee I bet it'd be easy to convince them of some other things., whomever first coined the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted"...evidently had a part in inventing, or at the very least,
marketing' Bare Minerals make-up and/or related products, lol
Surely those actresses on t.v. are getting paid VERY WELL, for their part
in promoting such products., and poor poor make-up artists, :tissue
they must all be standing in unemployment lines by now.
VANITY VANITY
is "vexation" of the Spirit.
I wore liquid makeup for YEARS, and always felt like it was caked on, because I liked a lot of coverage. I can't explain the chemical reasons behind Bare Essentials, but I can say that it covers with a very light powder. The first week or so that I wore it, I felt "naked" because I didn't feel like I had make up on at all, even though it covers flaws really well. It's hard to explain; you'd just have to try it to understand!
Sherri
10-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Ah... no, dude! I was just poking fun at the "all natural" line of products - with which I have no real experience or personal knowledge.
The lovely and gracious Sheri is all lady and I wouldn't pick a fight with her hubbie.
Smart move!:ursofunny
Margies3
10-11-2009, 07:01 PM
Sherri, where do you buy this Bare Essentials make-up at? I think I might want to try it.
The Mrs
10-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Sherri, where do you buy this Bare Essentials make-up at? I think I might want to try it.
We have a nicer spa/salon that carries it here locally. Bigger malls usually have a store as well. But that's in Oregon. :winkgrin
*AQuietPlace*
10-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Sherri, where do you buy this Bare Essentials make-up at? I think I might want to try it.
It's actually spelled Bare Escentuals. Ulta sells it, if you have one of those.
Here's their website:
http://store.bareescentuals.com/
Sherri
10-12-2009, 07:17 AM
It's actually spelled Bare Escentuals. Ulta sells it, if you have one of those.
Here's their website:
http://store.bareescentuals.com/
You're right, AQP. I spelled it totally wrong! We have a Bare Escentuals place here in Jackson, inside a salon. I'm sure you could google it or look it up in your phone directory, Margie.
HeavenlyOne
10-12-2009, 10:12 AM
Sherri, where do you buy this Bare Essentials make-up at? I think I might want to try it.
Depending on what brand you want, but I saw the 'Bare Essentials' brand at WalMart this morning. It's about $13 for the foundation and it comes with a brush. Not bad. Was thinking of getting it for my daughter who is suddenly into makeup now....at the tender age of 16. LOL!
HeavenlyOne
10-12-2009, 10:12 AM
It's actually spelled Bare Escentuals. Ulta sells it, if you have one of those.
Here's their website:
http://store.bareescentuals.com/
I got some of their stuff from a seller on Ebay years ago. Nice stuff.
Nitehawk013
10-12-2009, 10:22 AM
This thread makes me happy my finace realizes she doesn't need paint to be beautiful.
Sherri
10-12-2009, 06:30 PM
This thread makes me happy my finace realizes she doesn't need paint to be beautiful.Well, I doubt if she's 52! At 25, I didn't need it either.
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