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Rev
08-25-2010, 06:45 PM
There are people on this site whose sole purpose is to question every bible principle!

Don't forget that these people hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ.

They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can!

OnTheFritz
08-25-2010, 06:51 PM
Who?

Hoovie
08-25-2010, 07:08 PM
There are people on this site whose sole purpose is to question every bible principle!

Don't forget that these people hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ.

They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can!

That is very harsh Rev. I could not say that about anyone here - even those holding the more heretical views - I don't equate that with hating the name of Jesus.

Why the angst?

Rev
08-25-2010, 07:31 PM
That is very harsh Rev. I could not say that about anyone here - even those holding the more heretical views - I don't equate that with hating the name of Jesus.

Why the angst?

If this doesn't apply to you then don't worry about it!

Perhaps I know a little more about the tactics they use then you do.

coadie
08-25-2010, 07:42 PM
There are people on this site whose sole purpose is to question every bible principle!

Don't forget that these people hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ.

They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can!

Job is to read the scriptures. Not re write them.

On the topic of evolution, I am told the bible is pretty much wrong and without special interpretation, we will have plagues if we stay with it as written.

I really enjoy finding a bible principle and look for how many places that principle is mentioned.

Principle Once saved always saved. I have found 15 people that were right with God that lost their slavation.

Rev
08-25-2010, 07:48 PM
Who?

(Mar 14:19) And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I?

Rev
08-25-2010, 07:52 PM
Job is to read the scriptures. Not re write them.

On the topic of evolution, I am told the bible is pretty much wrong and without special interpretation, we will have plagues if we stay with it as written.

I really enjoy finding a bible principle and look for how many places that principle is mentioned.

Principle Once saved always saved. I have found 15 people that were right with God that lost their slavation.

What plagues? Since the bible is wrong there are no plagues!

You sound like the Mystery Religion guys who say the bible is wrong and then quote from it to "prove" their doctrine! :ursofunny

Sam
08-25-2010, 09:34 PM
There are people on this site whose sole purpose is to question every bible principle!

Don't forget that these people hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ.

They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can!

Their sole purpose is to question every Bible principle?
They hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ?
They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can?
Those are some pretty strong accusations and that is quite judgmental!

Are you saying that about them because they may have a different opinion than you on some things?

OnTheFritz
08-25-2010, 09:51 PM
If this doesn't apply to you then don't worry about it!

Perhaps I know a little more about the tactics they use then you do.

Who's they? Are you talking about Pel in the evolution thread? Timmy?

Look. Do you honestly think that people on the other side of the argument hate the Word of God and are the enemy? Or do you think that they have a lifetime of study and experience they are drawing from just like you. You think they waste time on these forums just to lead people astray? Really?

Using evolution as an example. I personally don't care one way or the other. Doesn't affect my walk with God at all. Do I think that God has it in is power to use evolution to accomplish his master plan? Sure. Do I know whether he did or not? Nope. Do you know? Nope. Does it diminish God's power to think that evolution could be a component in creation? No. Could he have done it all in an instant? Of course. I have a tendency to believe that God uses natural means (of his own creation, of course) to achieve his goals. To me, that is just as awesome as if it happened with the flip of a switch.

The reason people (like me) get so worked up, I believe, is that others claim to have THE answer when there is no way they could possibly have it. You read and interpret, Pel reads and interprets. Coadie reads and .... I'm not sure what he does. But, in my experience, people who make absolute claims about answers they have no way to know generally need some absolute answer in their own minds because they are afraid of the alternative. The idea that God could use evolution is not the answer you want to hear. Thus it's an abomination. It's the devil. It's false. The fact is, there are compelling arguments to be made for it without it meaning that anyone is demon possessed. (sorry, Coadie).

Rev
08-25-2010, 09:57 PM
Their sole purpose is to question every Bible principle?
They hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ?
They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can?
Those are some pretty strong accusations and that is quite judgmental!

Are you saying that about them because they may have a different opinion than you on some things?

Your question does not deserve an answer!

Rev
08-25-2010, 09:58 PM
Who's they? Are you talking about Pel in the evolution thread? Timmy?

Look. Do you honestly think that people on the other side of the argument hate the Word of God and are the enemy? Or do you think that they have a lifetime of study and experience they are drawing from just like you. You think they waste time on these forums just to lead people astray? Really?

Using evolution as an example. I personally don't care one way or the other. Doesn't affect my walk with God at all. Do I think that God has it in is power to use evolution to accomplish his master plan? Sure. Do I know whether he did or not? Nope. Do you know? Nope. Does it diminish God's power to think that evolution could be a component in creation? No. Could he have done it all in an instant? Of course. I have a tendency to believe that God uses natural means (of his own creation, of course) to achieve his goals. To me, that is just as awesome as if it happened with the flip of a switch.

The reason people (like me) get so worked up, I believe, is that others claim to have THE answer when there is no way they could possibly have it. You read and interpret, Pel reads and interprets. Coadie reads and .... I'm not sure what he does. But, in my experience, people who make absolute claims about answers they have no way to know generally need some absolute answer in their own minds because they are afraid of the alternative. The idea that God could use evolution is not the answer you want to hear. Thus it's an abomination. It's the devil. It's false. The fact is, there are compelling arguments to be made for it without it meaning that anyone is demon possessed. (sorry, Coadie).

Read my quote in your answer.

OnTheFritz
08-25-2010, 10:01 PM
Read my quote in your answer.

That you know more than everyone else. That quote? Or, that I should mind my own business on a public forum. Both of your quotes show arrogance and ignorance. Anything else?

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:12 PM
That you know more than everyone else. That quote? Or, that I should mind my own business on a public forum. Both of your quotes show arrogance and ignorance. Anything else?

Yes, if I didn't know any more than you do I wouldn't be on here.

By the way - your opinion means nothing to me.

OnTheFritz
08-25-2010, 10:19 PM
Yes, if I didn't know any more than you do I wouldn't be on here.

By the way - your opinion means nothing to me.

Wow. The Rev's true spirit shines! I'm sure what you think you know is beyond measure. :thumbsup

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:20 PM
Wow. The Rev's true spirit shines! I'm sure what you think you know is beyond measure. :thumbsup

What you didn't get this part?

By the way - your opinion means nothing to me.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:22 PM
What you didn't get this part?

By the way - your opinion means nothing to me.

I guess Jesus also had a bad spirit according to you....

(Mat 23:33) Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

OnTheFritz
08-25-2010, 10:24 PM
What you didn't get this part?

By the way - your opinion means nothing to me.

I will continue to post as I see fit. But maybe if you wrote it again...

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:25 PM
I will continue to post as I see fit. But maybe if you wrote it again...

OK

By the way - your opinion means nothing to me.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:28 PM
By the way thanks for keeping this thread on top.

Some need to read it and be warned about the deeds of others.

OnTheFritz
08-25-2010, 10:28 PM
I guess Jesus also had a bad spirit according to you....

(Mat 23:33) Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Pardon me, but what I have posted to offend you so? Did I post something to deserve being called a serpent? Was my post in this thread so offensive? Honest question here. I realize my opinion doesn't matter (clearly), but what's the deal?

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:29 PM
I sure don't hate the bible because the bible is the sole rule of faith of doctrine and practice for the Christian.I sure don't hate the name of Jesus Christ cause anybody,I baptize I call the name of Jesus Christ over them.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:30 PM
I sure don't hate the bible because the bible is the sole rule of faith of doctrine and practice for the Christian.I sure don't hate the name of Jesus Christ cause anybody,I baptize I call the name of Jesus Christ over them.

Are you a preacher?

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:31 PM
I do more teaching you might say.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:32 PM
I do more teaching you might say.

Do you pastor a church?

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:32 PM
If anybody here hates the bible or the name of Jesus I ignore them.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:33 PM
Do you pastor a church?

No I do not.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:34 PM
If anybody here hates the bible or the name of Jesus I ignore them.


Not all know enough to do that.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:37 PM
My answers come from the word of God.I question things by the word.
Maybe I'm a bit slow,but I feel you need bible for what you believe.
One must know what they believe and why they believe it by the word of God.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:37 PM
If anybody here hates the bible or the name of Jesus I ignore them.

The lambs need to be warned that not everyone is what they pretend to be.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:39 PM
If people take everything seriously that goes on here,they have a probelm.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:40 PM
My answers come from the word of God.I question things by the word.
Maybe I'm a bit slow,but I feel you need bible for what you believe.
One must know what they believe and why they believe it by the word of God.

Sadly, so few do.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:42 PM
If people take everything seriously that goes on here,they have a probelm.

You might be surprised how many have a problem.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:42 PM
I'll say this if people haven't read their bibles all the way through,they should stay out of doctrinal discussions.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:45 PM
I'll say this if people haven't read their bibles all the way through,they should stay out of doctrinal discussions.

I've read it four times from Genesis to maps.

But the bible must be studied by subject, not just read through.

Read every verse on any given subject over and over until you understand everything about that subject.

People don't do that and that's the reason that there are so many false interpretations.

Sam
08-25-2010, 10:46 PM
There are people on this site whose sole purpose is to question every bible principle!

Don't forget that these people hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ.

They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can!

Is this Steve Winters under an assumed name?

Michael
08-25-2010, 10:47 PM
:violin:violin:violin:violin:violin:violin:tissue: tissue:tissue:tissue

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:47 PM
If people listen to the Holy Ghost it will lead one into truth.
I love everybody here,while alot of the time,I disagree with alot stuff posted here,still I don't feel Holier than thou.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:47 PM
Is this Steve Winters under an assumed name?

Sam,

Rev is not a name!

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:48 PM
Before a doctrine can be formulated one must study everything the bible says about a subject.

Rev
08-25-2010, 10:50 PM
Before a doctrine can be formulated one must study everything the bible says about a subject.

True!

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:53 PM
One must look at the scriptures in their historical settings,one must look at a text and see what it says immediately or by itself and then must look at the verses of the bible as they relate to other verses of the bible.

Also cultural consideration must be given to the scriptures.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:55 PM
It's late here,I trust everyone has a pleasant evening.

Sam
08-25-2010, 10:55 PM
One must look at the scriptures in their historical settings,one must look at a text and see what it says immediately or by itself and then must look at the verses of the bible as they relate to other verses of the bible.

Also cultural consideration must be given to the scriptures.

because a text
taken from its context
can be for a pretext

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:57 PM
One must leave the verses of the bible in their proper context,and this is a biggie don't read things into the texts and make them say things that aren't intended.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 10:57 PM
because a text
taken from its context
can be for a pretext

That's the idea.

Scott Hutchinson
08-25-2010, 11:03 PM
I really need to retire for the evening.

NotforSale
08-25-2010, 11:05 PM
There are people on this site whose sole purpose is to question every bible principle!

Don't forget that these people hate the bible and the name of Jesus Christ.

They spread their propaganda where ever and how ever they can!

This is a typical "cop out" post. You get cornered with the facts and can't handle the heat. You’re putting words into people’s mouths, and when the leg you’re standing on is broken with the truth, you cry.

:violin

rgcraig
08-26-2010, 09:34 AM
Your question does not deserve an answer!

Actually, your thread doesn't deserve a response.

What a crazy thing to say.

GraceAmazing
08-27-2010, 08:28 AM
Actually, your thread doesn't deserve a response.

What a crazy thing to say.

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