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kristian's_mom
09-04-2010, 02:30 AM
After reading a book called Escape by Carolyn Jessop. She was born into the FLDS and at age 18 forced to be the 4th wife of a 50 year old man. Eight kids, sixteen years, and two more "sister wives" later she finally escapes. Yes, I am truly thankful.....

Baron1710
09-04-2010, 07:25 AM
I am thankful to have been raised in the UPC, in no particular order:

1. I got to be the odd man out in PE wearing sweat pants when everyone else was wearing shorts.

2. I learned to determine my position in Christ by how I felt.

3. I learned how to judge other's salvation by what they wear.

4. I learned that being out of control in church was being "in the spirit."

5. I was able to avoid all the evil trappings of playing the sports I loved, but could only play if it was in the neighborhood or at a church outing.

6. I learned to evaluate a message by the decibel of the preacher rather than the content of the message.

The list could go on and on but I got a yard to mow...in my short sleeves and short pants.

coadie
09-04-2010, 08:30 AM
Sounds like the UPC is a great group.

Mr. Smith
09-04-2010, 08:39 AM
I am thankful to have been raised in the UPC, in no particular order:

1. I got to be the odd man out in PE wearing sweat pants when everyone else was wearing shorts.

2. I learned to determine my position in Christ by how I felt.

3. I learned how to judge other's salvation by what they wear.

4. I learned that being out of control in church was being "in the spirit."

5. I was able to avoid all the evil trappings of playing the sports I loved, but could only play if it was in the neighborhood or at a church outing.

6. I learned to evaluate a message by the decibel of the preacher rather than the content of the message.

The list could go on and on but I got a yard to mow...in my short sleeves and short pants.


No, no, no, keep typing, don't mow the yard. It can wait!!!!

GREAT post!

ILG
09-04-2010, 10:07 AM
I am so thankful to have been raised in the alcoholic family I was. I was never raped!

faithit166
09-04-2010, 10:21 AM
I am thankful to have been raised in the UPC, in no particular order:

1. I got to be the odd man out in PE wearing sweat pants when everyone else was wearing shorts.

2. I learned to determine my position in Christ by how I felt.

3. I learned how to judge other's salvation by what they wear.

4. I learned that being out of control in church was being "in the spirit."

5. I was able to avoid all the evil trappings of playing the sports I loved, but could only play if it was in the neighborhood or at a church outing.

6. I learned to evaluate a message by the decibel of the preacher rather than the content of the message.

The list could go on and on but I got a yard to mow...in my short sleeves and short pants.

sounds like a heart problem to me,lord search our hearts

Mr. Smith
09-04-2010, 10:31 AM
sounds like a heart problem to me,lord search our hearts

Oh please.

faithit166
09-04-2010, 10:35 AM
mr smith have you come to educate us and speak for the lord,can you read peoples hearts

Mr. Smith
09-04-2010, 10:52 AM
mr smith have you come to educate us and speak for the lord,can you read peoples hearts


:lolWhatever.


It was still a great post!

faithit166
09-04-2010, 11:10 AM
i was not raised in upc but was brought in at the age of 26 years old and was most radically changed,i have no problem submitting to those who are over me and i thank god for this as far as the standards i agree 100 percent i will do anything to please him i am not n bondage i love the lord with all my heart,i thank god everday for truth thank him for the revelation and i want to be totally seperated from the world,

Mr. Smith
09-04-2010, 11:19 AM
i was not raised in upc but was brought in at the age of 26 years old and was most radically changed,i have no problem submitting to those who are over me and i thank god for this as far as the standards i agree 100 percent i will do anything to please him i am not n bondage i love the lord with all my heart,i thank god everday for truth thank him for the revelation and i want to be totally seperated from the world,


Well, I got out when I was 27 so I guess they lost one, gained one.

Really though, when I read you say you agree with the standards because you'll do anything to please Him, it breaks my heart. If you could only see how little you have to do to please Him. You please Him and He loves you just because you are. From the foundation of the world He saw you and you pleased Him then.

Baron1710
09-04-2010, 12:04 PM
sounds like a heart problem to me,lord search our hearts

Well I guess if we gave the UPC a metaphorical heart then I guess you could say they have a heart problem.

As for me I have been given a new heart one that doesn't have to determine if another man's servant is living right.

One that can play sports and glorify God while doing it.

One that knows I am loved for who I am in Christ not for what I do.

Baron1710
09-04-2010, 12:07 PM
i was not raised in upc but was brought in at the age of 26 years old and was most radically changed,i have no problem submitting to those who are over me and i thank god for this as far as the standards i agree 100 percent i will do anything to please him i am not n bondage i love the lord with all my heart,i thank god everday for truth thank him for the revelation and i want to be totally seperated from the world,

I will do anything to please Him. I have no desire to be a man pleaser. I am confident when I say God doesn't love anyone for the clothes they wear or the jewelry they don't wear.

kristian's_mom
09-04-2010, 12:11 PM
mr smith have you come to educate us and speak for the lord,can you read peoples hearts

Can YOU read people's hearts?


sounds like a heart problem to me,lord search our hearts

Guess so.

Neck
09-05-2010, 08:30 AM
After reading a book called Escape by Carolyn Jessop. She was born into the FLDS and at age 18 forced to be the 4th wife of a 50 year old man. Eight kids, sixteen years, and two more "sister wives" later she finally escapes. Yes, I am truly thankful.....

The preaching of the Rapture being close at hand, put many of our lives on hold in our youth and college age. It would have been good to have a balance and many may be further ahead.

GraceAmazing
09-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Uh hum, I understand Baron's TIC post...but I know what you meant Kristan's Mom - I am no longer UPC, I'm thankful for my roots even though I think the organization has it's flaws. I also don't spend my minutes and hours, days and nights, weeks, months and years rehashing what those flaws are. I am thankful I wasn't born into the FDLS too...I'd like to think I'm such an independent woman that if I had been born into that, that I would have taken such a strong stand and left!! LOL

Sorry for the "meanness" of this post, but I just get so tired of it...every time I come here, that's what it is all about...the UPC and their latest flaw...off my soapbox :D

Praxeas
09-09-2010, 01:08 PM
I wasn't raised in the UPC. I came in when I was 20.
I would not be alive right now if not for what Jesus did for me. Jesus used this little UPC with their conservative pastor.

I discovered sometimes along the way they some things they taught were not necessary, I adjusted my views appropriately without becoming jaded and I still go to a UPC

whoami
09-09-2010, 01:13 PM
I can't say that I'm thankful I was raised UPC, it wouldn't be truthful of me.

I've read Escape, Stolen Innocence, When Men Become Gods, and several other books about the FLDS. It's a horrible and scary organization. I can truthfully say that I'm thankful I wasn't raised FLDS.

Sister Alvear
09-09-2010, 01:21 PM
I was raised independent Pentecostal...far more conservative that the UPC...glad I was raised that way it has made me carefully consider doctrine and convictions however I do not believe certain things and today most of the people who taught them do not either!

I still am very conservative to many but in the process of time I learned to be kind and considerate.

Jermyn Davidson
09-09-2010, 04:20 PM
I wasn't raised UPC. I came to know the UPCI in Japan.

I had a relationship with the Lord-- saved, sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost BEFORE knowing about the the UPCI.

God used the UPCI to help me-- He used this organization as a platform for me to encounter the LORD for myself, as an adult.

I don't agree with a couple "core doctrines" any more, but I'll never forget what the Lord has done for me, in me, and through me as a Christian attending an UPC.

Jermyn Davidson
09-09-2010, 04:21 PM
sounds like a heart problem to me,lord search our hearts

Do you even know Baron? Have you ever met him?

Rose
09-09-2010, 04:45 PM
I wasn't raised in the UPC. I came in when I was 20.
I would not be alive right now if not for what Jesus did for me. Jesus used this little UPC with their conservative pastor.

I discovered sometimes along the way they some things they taught were not necessary, I adjusted my views appropriately without becoming jaded and I still go to a UPC

Ditto!

Pressing-On
09-09-2010, 04:58 PM
I wasn't raised in the UPC. I came in when I was 20.
I would not be alive right now if not for what Jesus did for me. Jesus used this little UPC with their conservative pastor.

I discovered sometimes along the way they some things they taught were not necessary, I adjusted my views appropriately without becoming jaded and I still go to a UPC

Excellent as usual, Prax. My sentiments exactly! :thumbsup