View Full Version : Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzlement
soldoutochrist
09-10-2010, 01:26 PM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/sep/08/081710/pasco-pastor-to-plead-guilty-to-stealing-from-unio/news-breaking/
I knew Bro. Sims while he was a part of the FL District. Great man of God. Sad.
Dedicated Mind
09-10-2010, 01:41 PM
throw the book at him
The article says he has over 1100 at his church? Wow! Already.
If the HMD records are what they appear ... the church he claims to have funneled some of the money to ... was a CIAD (Church in A Day) project.
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/ListOfCIADNorthAmericanProjects.xls
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/SeptOct2008Communique.pdf
800k for a church that already had funding and built through the org ???
Seems like he was bilking from several sides.
When did this "home missions" pastor leave the org?
The article says he has over 1100 at his church? Wow! Already.
If the HMD records are what they appear ... the church he claims to have funneled some of the money to ... was a CIAD (Church in A Day) project.
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/ListOfCIADNorthAmericanProjects.xls
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/SeptOct2008Communique.pdf
800k for a church that already had funding and built through the org ???
Seems like he was bilking from several sides.
When did this "home missions" pastor leave the org?
My bad the union has 1100 members.
Seems as of 2009 his attendance high at the church was 181 ...
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/MayJune2008.communique.pdf
I wonder how many love offerings have been taken up to help pay for this "demonic assault" against him?
coadie
09-10-2010, 02:37 PM
The article says he has over 1100 at his church? Wow! Already.
If the HMD records are what they appear ... the church he claims to have funneled some of the money to ... was a CIAD (Church in A Day) project.
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/ListOfCIADNorthAmericanProjects.xls
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/SeptOct2008Communique.pdf
800k for a church that already had funding and built through the org ???
Seems like he was bilking from several sides.
When did this "home missions" pastor leave the org?
The electrical union had 1,100 members. You have reading difficulty.
Charnock
09-10-2010, 02:39 PM
Very sad. I hate that this is fodder for discussion as much as I hate the sin involved.
coadie
09-10-2010, 02:40 PM
The guy apparently acted like union leaders do. Union leaders have been abusing funds for years.
soldoutochrist
09-10-2010, 02:42 PM
Very sad. I hate that this is fodder for discussion as much as I hate the sin involved.
I have to admit that I'm a bit hurt personally only because Bro. Sims was such a genuine guy. He was very involved in youth ministry and one of the nicest people that I've ever met in the org. I was shocked when this hit the papers.
The guy apparently acted like union leaders do. Union leaders have been abusing funds for years.
Or he acted like many pastors do. :grampa
Charnock
09-10-2010, 02:46 PM
Or he acted like many pastors do. :grampa
Many?
Come on, bro.
The article says he has over 1100 at his church? Wow! Already.
If the HMD records are what they appear ... the church he claims to have funneled some of the money to ... was a CIAD (Church in A Day) project.
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/ListOfCIADNorthAmericanProjects.xls
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/SeptOct2008Communique.pdf
800k for a church that already had funding and built through the org ???
Seems like he was bilking from several sides.
When did this "home missions" pastor leave the org?
My bad the union has 1100 members.
The electrical union had 1,100 members. You have reading difficulty.
Welcome to the club, Coadie..
Many?
Come on, bro.
I chose the word many not to broad brush ... as was done with union leaders.
3 pastors who take from the people of God ... IS TOO MANY.
coadie
09-10-2010, 02:51 PM
I have to admit that I'm a bit hurt personally only because Bro. Sims was such a genuine guy. He was very involved in youth ministry and one of the nicest people that I've ever met in the org. I was shocked when this hit the papers.
Feels like betrayal. When I was young, I hired a CFO. Over time several of his family joined my company. When I caught him in the till, his religiousity I knew him for felt very phony.
Charnock
09-10-2010, 02:53 PM
I chose the word many not to broad brush ... as was done with union leaders.
3 pastors who take from the people of God ... IS TOO MANY.
I agree, but it would be like me saying many teachers sexually abuse students.
Does 100 teachers out of 1,000,000 constitute many?
100 is too many, but it would be wrong to act as if many = MOST.
Many?
Come on, bro.
The theft is appalling considering he took from the members ... and was already benefiting from funds he received from the hard working people who contributed to HMD ... not to include the tithes of a mid-sized church.
Also ... he was NOT A UNION LEADER (in cased Coadie missed it)... according to the article:
Sims was hired in November 2007 by an administrator to manage pension, health and welfare, and vacation funds for Local 915 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
coadie
09-10-2010, 02:53 PM
Or he acted like many pastors do. :grampa
I suspect more pastors cash their paycheck for the church and do not take a dollar. All small enterprises need internal financial controls.
Charnock
09-10-2010, 02:55 PM
I suspect more pastors cash their paycheck for the church and do not take a dollar. All small enterprises need internal financial controls.
In fact, I would say most pastors give their own income to support the church.
I suspect more pastors cash their paycheck for the church and do not take a dollar. All small enterprises need internal financial controls.
I have the same OBVIOUS suspicion ....
i agree, but it would be like me saying many teachers sexually abuse students.
Does 100 teachers out of 1,000,000 constitute many?
100 is too many, but it would be wrong to act as if many = most.
no one said most ... Charny ...
And that would be like coadie's original unqualified statement ...
That union leaders abuse funds and that this non-union pastor acted like a union leader ... which he's not.
One of those stellar examples of Coadian logic
coadie
09-10-2010, 03:08 PM
The theft is appalling considering he took from the members ...
Also ... he was NOT A UNION LEADER (in cased Coadie missed it)... according to the article:
Sims was hired in November 2007 by an administrator to manage pension, health and welfare, and vacation funds for Local 915 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Actually you seem ignorant of business.
They Report to the Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration Of the U.S. Department of Labor. Employee Benefit Plans administrators and plan trustees must carry insurance for fraud and theft.
Most pension plans require that an audit be done. ERISA and DOL oversee this. My company started a 401 plan in the early 90's. I am very familiar with the laws. Even the IRS calls them as management for the plan.
Investment/Bonding Requirement
The investment/bonding requirement says at least 95 percent of plan assets must be invested in qualifying plan assets. If the 95 percent requirement is not met, then the assets that do not qualify must be covered under a bond that meets ERISA requirements and is at least in the amount of the nonqualifying assets. For example, if the 95 percent requirement is not met and nonqualifying assets equal $40,000 but there is already a $60,000 ERISA bond in place, then no additional bonding is required.
since this plan was over 100 members, all this is covered in the 5500 annual report.
The Department of Labor, Internal Revenue Service, and the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation jointly developed the Form 5500 Series so employee benefit plans could utilize the Form 5500 Series forms to satisfy annual reporting requirements under Title I and Title IV of ERISA and under the Internal Revenue Code.
I suspect the Union didn't use a good company to manage their pensions either.
coadie
09-10-2010, 03:09 PM
In fact, I would say most pastors give their own income to support the church.
I have seen a pastor sell his house to cover church bills. I have also seen a church buy a mobile home for pastor to live in and the pastor took it for personal; property.
Sims was hired in November 2007 by an administrator to manage pension, health and welfare, and vacation funds for Local 915 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Actually you seem ignorant of business.
They Report to the Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration Of the U.S. Department of Labor. Employee Benefit Plans administrators and plan trustees must carry insurance for fraud and theft.
Most pension plans require that an audit be done. ERISA and DOL oversee this. My company started a 401 plan in the early 90's. I am very familiar with the laws. Even the IRS calls them as management for the plan.
since this plan was over 100 members, all this is covered in the 5500 annual report.
I suspect the Union didn't use a good company to manage their pensions either.
Note to reader: Coadie obfuscates with unrelated facts, which are not germane, without ever addressing his faux pas ... about lumping this pastor as a union leader ...
WHICH HE'S NOT.
I have seen a pastor sell his house to cover church bills. I have also seen a church buy a mobile home for pastor to live in and the pastor took it for personal; property.
I've seen my own father take a salary of less then 36,000 in a church of close to 300-350 ... work a full-time and then part-time job while still pastoring ... and my mom worked full time for 30 plus years so we could live in a home ... in one of the most expensive cities in the world ... NYC.
BTW, Sims was not a union leader.
coadie
09-10-2010, 03:21 PM
no one said most ... Charny ...
And that would be like coadie's original unqualified statement ...
That union leaders abuse funds and that this non-union pastor acted like a union leader ... which he's not.
One of those stellar examples of Coadian logic
The Obama administration promised increased transparency in government but has rolled back rules proposed by the Bush administration that expanded the financial disclosure statements required of labor unions and their leaders.
Since President Obama took office, the Labor Department has rescinded or delayed three sets of rules proposed by the George W. Bush administration that would have required unions and their leaders to more specifically detail their finances, according to a review of records by The Washington Times.
LM-2 filings
In 2003, the Bush administration announced that the unions had to list on their LM-2 filings -annual reports disclosing union finances - any recipients of $5,000 or more in union funds. This included vendors, charities and political candidates, with specific amounts instead of lump-sum totals. These added disclosures, which took effect in 2004, were designed to shed light on where unions spent their money.
In the closing days of the Bush administration, the Labor Department sought to further increase the number of disclosures the unions had to make on the LM-2 forms. The new rules would have required unions to disclose the name of any party buying or selling union assets of $5,000 or more, making it easier for members to determine whether the transactions were at arm's length. Unions currently need to list only the item and the sale or purchase price.
This is the problem with union financial fraud. Union leaders chanel money to political campaings and do not give detailed reports to the government and members.
DAII rantunion leaders abuse funds and that this non-union pastor acted like a union leader
looks like the school teacher needs a little schooling.
A corporation has to meet and file a corporate resolution. This resoulution is in the minutes of a corporation that allows to have Sims act as an authorized officer of the corporation and sign bank accounts and checks. This is what CPA firms look at when they do audits.
School teachers don't have a clue how banks and business work,
Most of these embezzlements do not have jail time.
Coadie in his best Don Quixote pose chasing a windmill that never was posed.
Maybe your secretary can decode and translate for you.
Who gives a flying fajita about the other stuff that was never addressed in this thread.
Coadie you have foot in mouth disease.
Still not a leader.
Charnock
09-10-2010, 03:32 PM
Love the "flyin' fajita" reference, grasshoppa.
coadie
09-10-2010, 03:34 PM
I've seen my own father take a salary of less then 36,000 in a church of close to 300-350 ... work a full-time and then part-time job while still pastoring ... and my mom worked full time for 30 plus years so we could live in a home ... in one of the most expensive cities in the world ... NYC.
BTW, Sims was not a union leader.
More idiocy. That is why you teach little kids and I have practiced in a CPA firm. I know you have no real business education. The day the union files a corporate resolution to allow any flunky to have signature authority on a bank account, he is officially an officer of the enterprise according to the Patriot act. We cover this in business law. At that time he acts as an agent. He has legal agency. Another legal concept. He can bind the union in agreements.
The reason Obama is pushing lax reports to the DOL by unions is so Union authorities can funnel more member dollars to political causes.
LM-30 filings
Last year, the Obama administration also backed off a rule requiring union officials and employees to file a more detailed version of the conflict-of-interest form known as the LM-30. The rule also would have forced more people - union shop stewards, in some cases - to file the forms.
The Labor Department requires the officials and employees to file the LM-30 statements if they receive any income or economic benefit from any entity that does business with the union or with an employer of union members.
This is why Obama backing off on union reports is so bad.
coadie
09-10-2010, 03:39 PM
throw the book at him
Legally the members of the union can file claims against any and all officers of this union. On one side he was given authority and on the other side, they had a breech in "internal controls". He could both sign the checks according to the news and modify the records.
Man worked for a staffing agency Maestro ... WAS NOT A UNION LEADER
A Dade City pastor is accused of embezzling more than $800,000 from a union investment fund he managed and funneling at least some of the money to his church.
Gregory Sims, 38, pleaded guilty in federal court this week to theft or embezzlement of an employee benefit plan. The charge carries a possible five-year prison sentence, though Sims' plea agreement emphasizes repaying the money he took from the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 915, based in Tampa.
The plea agreement says Sims, who was pastor of Crossroads Church on Clinton Avenue, began working for a company called Antares Staffing in late 2007. Antares was a subsidiary of Medical Mutual Services LLC, which managed the IBEW's health, welfare, pension and vacation funds.
Sims' responsibilities included keeping financial records, reconciling accounts and issuing checks. He worked for Antares until January 2009, when he was fired. In June of that year, the plea deal says, an audit of IBEW funds turned up 11 checks from the union's accounts to Crossroads Church totaling $813,142.17.
More idiocy. That is why you teach little kids and I have practiced in a CPA firm. I know you have no real business education. The day the union files a corporate resolution to allow any flunky to have signature authority on a bank account, he is officially an officer of the enterprise according to the Patriot act. We cover this in business law. At that time he acts as an agent. He has legal agency. Another legal concept. He can bind the union in agreements.
The reason Obama is pushing lax reports to the DOL by unions is so Union authorities can funnel more member dollars to political causes.
This is why Obama backing off on union reports is so bad.
It was just a matter of time ... Move over Bush ... This was all Obama's fault!
Oy vey!
Coadie, are you really Dr. Vaughn posting from a prison library?
coadie
09-10-2010, 03:56 PM
Sims was hired in November 2007 by an administrator to manage pension, health and welfare, and vacation funds for Local 915 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
You missed this.
I have used ADP. Payroll outsourcing is a concept school teachers don't grasp.
They are called PEO's
Professional Employer Organization (PEO),
Across the hall from my office is a huge personnel department for the nations largest bank. This branch is 30 billion in size and the staff are all in a PEO.
For a real auditor or even a forensic auditor, this doesn't matter. For a gradeschool teacher, they think they can argue.
ACORN as another quasi union enterprise tried to use shells in how they ran their business.
canam
09-10-2010, 03:58 PM
Im still a member of the ironworkers union, even though i now am self employed and we had an official writing checks to himself and not putting the benefits where he was supposed to. Last i knew he was at 50,0000 and rising, the local as a result, was swallowed up by another larger local and all the funds were replaced by the district council. In the mean time nothing has been done to him .I dont get it,he should be in jail.
You missed this.
I have used ADP. Payroll outsourcing is a concept school teachers don't grasp.
They are called PEO's
Professional Employer Organization (PEO),
Across the hall from my office is a huge personnel department for the nations largest bank. This branch is 30 billion in size and the staff are all in a PEO.
For a real auditor or even a forensic auditor, this doesn't matter. For a gradeschool teacher, they think they can argue.
ACORN as another quasi union enterprise tried to use shells in how they ran their business.
Not payroll but investment fund. All well and dandy.
Still a NOT A UNION LEADER. :)
Canam, I'm sorry this pastor and staffing employee ripped you off
coadie
09-10-2010, 04:02 PM
Coadie, are you really Dr. Vaughn posting from a prison library?
If you called me a homophobe today, I missed it.
If you called me a homophobe today, I missed it.
Not yet but you're still a FLAMING homphobe.
coadie
09-10-2010, 04:13 PM
Im still a member of the ironworkers union, even though i now am self employed and we had an official writing checks to himself and not putting the benefits where he was supposed to. Last i knew he was at 50,0000 and rising, the local as a result, was swallowed up by another larger local and all the funds were replaced by the district council. In the mean time nothing has been done to him .I dont get it,he should be in jail.
That is why we use CPA's. Most workers are under union leaders that are in their own trade. About the only mandated audits are ERISA, DOL and IRS. If they push these assignments to a myriad of friends and shell companies, shrinkage occurs in the accounts. One of the defenses in embezzlement is that the corporate resolution to sign the bank account and transfer money was authorized.
DAII fell for this. They say the flagrant worker was not ours, he was from a temp firm. He was not management. The day he was granted access to see and change files plus sign checks, legally he is defined as an authorized agent. Requiring more than one signature on an accont is an old internal control step. Having a person that signs checks not be the one that sees recieves statements and reconciles accounts is another internal control step.
ERISA requires fidelity bonds.
coadie
09-10-2010, 04:19 PM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/sep/08/081710/pasco-pastor-to-plead-guilty-to-stealing-from-unio/news-breaking/
I knew Bro. Sims while he was a part of the FL District. Great man of God. Sad.
If these men have an accountability partner over their shoulder and a wife in their face, sexual temptation is more difficult to act on. Same with handling money. If they are set up in a way they can't have secrets, secret handling, it is much more difficult to follow temptation.
pelathais
09-10-2010, 04:35 PM
Seems as of 2009 his attendance high at the church was 181 ...
http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/moduleUploads/MayJune2008.communique.pdf
I wonder how many love offerings have been taken up to help pay for this "demonic assault" against him?
"Crossroads Church ..." ??? Sounds like one of those emergent churches. Guy probably preaches with his shirt untucked as well.
pelathais
09-10-2010, 04:39 PM
If these men have an accountability partner over their shoulder and a wife in their face, sexual temptation is more difficult to act on. Same with handling money. If they are set up in a way they can't have secrets, secret handling, it is much more difficult to follow temptation.
"Accounta-bila-Buddies." That would have kept him on the straight and narrow. But then again, who do you think he was sharing the money with in his church?
soldoutochrist
09-10-2010, 04:41 PM
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/20/Pasco/Welcome_to_the_meltin.shtml
Kind of unrelated, but when googling the church to see if there were any more articles, I found this. Neat idea at least.
coadie
09-10-2010, 04:54 PM
"Accounta-bila-Buddies." That would have kept him on the straight and narrow. But then again, who do you think he was sharing the money with in his church?
What is the legal issue here?
800,000
I suspect the transactions were paper checks and not electronic transfers. Doesn't matter. I suspect there were as usual less that 2 dozen transfers. If the church has to provide its records in a criminal audit, would there be an alarm if the accounts didn't match offerings deposits?
The reporter says the money went to the church. I suspect he pulled out a lot for himself.
Just a side note. Funds taken by theft are treated as income. Repayment of "embezzled funds" is not a tax deduction. He has to pay taxes on the money. He has to report it on his taxes. Rarely do embezzlements also get crimonal process by reason of the IRS.
My friend with a small hamburger stand went to the bank on Monday to get one dollar bills for the cash register. The bank said they couldn't help him because the baptist church hadn't made their Monday deposit yet.
coadie
09-10-2010, 04:56 PM
"Crossroads Church ..." ??? Sounds like one of those emergent churches. Guy probably preaches with his shirt untucked as well.
and a minor beard under the lip plus the seeker friendly beard below that.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/sep/08/081710/pasco-pastor-to-plead-guilty-to-stealing-from-unio/news-breaking/
I knew Bro. Sims while he was a part of the FL District. Great man of God. Sad.
Great man of God? Man, I never get it when people say stuff like that. So you liked him, fine, but....
soldoutochrist
09-10-2010, 05:16 PM
Great man of God? Man, I never get it when people say stuff like that. So you liked him, fine, but....
Perhaps it should be past tense then. It's just still unfathomable to me that someone that I heard speak and admired so much was doing this on the side. He seemed like a great man of God may work better.
Hoovie
09-10-2010, 05:18 PM
Great man of God? Man, I never get it when people say stuff like that. So you liked him, fine, but....
I sort of "correct" the saying when I hear it... "You mean a man of a Great God right?" :)
Perhaps it should be past tense then. It's just still unfathomable to me that someone that I heard speak and admired so much was doing this on the side. He seemed like a great man of God may work better.
Yeah, I can go along with that. ;)
I sort of "correct" the saying when I hear it... "You mean a man of a Great God right?" :)
;)
Apocrypha
09-11-2010, 08:38 PM
Suprised no one mentioned he was elected Florida Youth President in 2008 right before this hit. He was a FL district board member.
soldoutochrist
09-11-2010, 08:46 PM
Suprised no one mentioned he was elected Florida Youth President in 2008 right before this hit. He was a FL district board member.
Yup.
RevDWW
09-11-2010, 08:50 PM
Man is fallable no matter what position. Place your Faith in Jesus and not men. He should do time for his stealing but I hope he repents and learns from his mistakes.
Well, Jesus had 12 apostles and one of them was a thief.
pelathais
09-11-2010, 08:58 PM
Well, Jesus had 12 apostles and one of them was a thief.
You'll never read about the quiet men and women who labor faithfully day in and day out.
coadie
09-11-2010, 09:03 PM
For every man that falls and makes the news, there are 20,000 pastors that do the best they can and work hard in hundreds of denominations. I really think most do the best they know how to.
Here is the problem. If some of the money he has to pay in restitution is in the church building, it doesn't beling to the church. It is however part of his order to pay it all back.
Filthy lucre.
You'll never read about the quiet men and women who labor faithfully day in and day out.
amen,
thank God for those who faithfully serve Him where He placed them even though they go unnoticed by the world and receive no earthly fame or glory.
Liberal
09-11-2010, 09:25 PM
Don't know him although his name sounds familiar.
I have nothing but sorrow for him. I can't imagine what he's feeling right now. I hope he finds a place of restoration and grace. He has fallen victim to temptation, something we all have done at one level or another. God help him, his family, his church, and may God heal everything that is broken to bring him back better than ever.
Don't know him although his name sounds familiar.
I have nothing but sorrow for him. I can't imagine what he's feeling right now. I hope he finds a place of restoration and grace. He has fallen victim to temptation, something we all have done at one level or another. God help him, his family, his church, and may God heal everything that is broken to bring him back better than ever.
Our God is the God of the second chance......
and the third chance........
and the fourth chance......
and on and on and on.........
Liberal
09-11-2010, 09:30 PM
Our God is the God of the second chance......
and the third chance........
and the fourth chance......
and on and on and on.........
Yes He is!!! "And the Word of the Lord came unto Jonah the SECOND TIME."
I'm broken-hearted for him, yet hopeful of God's amazing grace! Grace that restores completely! May God make this young man a trophy of grace!!
acerrak
09-11-2010, 09:30 PM
Our God is the God of the second chance......
and the third chance........
and the fourth chance......
and on and on and on.........
Amen.......
crakjak
09-12-2010, 08:02 AM
It was just a matter of time ... Move over Bush ... This was all Obama's fault!
Oy vey!
It about time he start taking the hit for his incompetence!! LOL
GraceAmazing
09-14-2010, 05:13 PM
I have to admit that I'm a bit hurt personally only because Bro. Sims was such a genuine guy. He was very involved in youth ministry and one of the nicest people that I've ever met in the org. I was shocked when this hit the papers.
Okay, is this Larry Sims' son?? Related to Robert Sims? I know, I know, it's a public forum...I'm just in a shock if it's the person I am thinking of!
soldoutochrist
09-14-2010, 07:11 PM
Okay, is this Larry Sims' son?? Related to Robert Sims? I know, I know, it's a public forum...I'm just in a shock if it's the person I am thinking of!
Not completely sure. Think that he has a brother named Larry, but I'd have to confirm that.
GraceAmazing
09-17-2010, 07:44 AM
Well, thanks for responding...still in shock over this...The Sim's I know are from Naples...
soldoutochrist
09-17-2010, 12:07 PM
Well, thanks for responding...still in shock over this...The Sim's I know are from Naples...
Yeah. I checked. He's originally from Naples.
Jermyn Davidson
09-17-2010, 04:22 PM
Yeah it's a shocker for many actually.
Apparently, he IS a very good person.
This situation is just one more example of what happens if you leave the UPC. Or perhaps his wife cut her hair.
(where is that tongue in cheek thingy to post when you need it!!!!)
GraceAmazing
09-19-2010, 09:22 PM
LOL CC1...what I remember is their conservative stance on many issues...I just can't believe this story...very sad.
WorkinforHIM
12-01-2010, 11:36 AM
It is sad I agree that a man who was such a great man of God could do something so wrong. I feel for his family, for his children, for his wife and for his parents and siblings, he was not raised this way and I am positive his parents have spent hours praying for the situation.
However I do feel it is only fair that he pays for his crimes, he has lived above his means for many years there is no reason why a new home mission church pastor and his wife should have brand new Louie V's all the time, expensive cars, fancy vacations last I checked people worked hard for God and God blessed us as he saw fit and what we could handle. Mr. Sims took matters into his own hands and stole other peoples hard earned money so he could further his families shopping addictions, he simply used his church to hide it. All I can say is I hope he has taken his time with God and has learned his lesson.
He and his wife were great loving people who always seemed to have values and would abide by the rules and really had a fire for young people and God but the pressure to have more and show it off got to them and this is what happened.
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