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Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 08:59 AM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".

If you disagree with TV ministry, I respect your views...

Our services will also be Itunes video podcasts (but not for a few weeks). I'll post the links here when we do.

Have a wonderful week!
Rob McKee

P.S. "Shara (my wife) has a show on Tuesday nights @ 8:30pm called "The Music of Pentecost". (The first broadcast was this week). She features only Apostolic Pentecostals singers and musicians.

Apocrypha
09-14-2010, 09:34 AM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".

If you disagree with TV ministry, I respect your views...

Our services will also be Itunes video podcasts (but not for a few weeks). I'll post the links here when we do.

Have a wonderful week!
Rob McKee

P.S. "Shara (my wife) has a show on Tuesday nights @ 8:30pm called "The Music of Pentecost". (The first broadcast was this week). She features only Apostolic Pentecostals singers and musicians.

Congrads on putting your minister on air. TV is a great gateway to building prospects for followup or to visit your website/church.

Sister Alvear
09-14-2010, 10:03 AM
:razz some may request reel to reel....
the more advanced may request youtube....:thumbsup

DAII
09-14-2010, 10:30 AM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".

If you disagree with TV ministry, I respect your views...

Our services will also be Itunes video podcasts (but not for a few weeks). I'll post the links here when we do.

Have a wonderful week!
Rob McKee

P.S. "Shara (my wife) has a show on Tuesday nights @ 8:30pm called "The Music of Pentecost". (The first broadcast was this week). She features only Apostolic Pentecostals singers and musicians.

Sounds great ... just stay away from Holy Magic Hair doctrine ... or folks will tune out.

Good to know you still preach and teach against television.

berkeley
09-14-2010, 10:50 AM
wot? he preaches and teaches against television?

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 11:17 AM
Sounds great ... just stay away from Holy Magic Hair doctrine ... or folks will tune out.

Good to know you still preach and teach against television.

Dan I think you are the only one mentioning Holy Hair still...it has defined your ministry.

whoami
09-14-2010, 11:19 AM
Sounds great ... just stay away from Holy Magic Hair doctrine ... or folks will tune out.

Good to know you still preach and teach against television.

Mr. McKee you might also want to avoid saying "Sooeee" to people who disagree with you, like you have elsewhere on this forum. It's not the way to get them to listen to your point of view, and its not Christlike (IMO). Just so you know. :neener

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showpost.php?p=951819&postcount=168

DAII
09-14-2010, 11:55 AM
wot? he preaches and teaches against television?

Of course he does. Robert, as a UPCI minister, does not have one in his home and signs an affirmation statement every two years saying he will preach and teach the Holiness article which states the UPCI view against TV.

Aquila
09-14-2010, 12:02 PM
Dan I think you are the only one mentioning Holy Hair still...it has defined your ministry.

If UPCI changes it's position on hair will Dan loose his ministry? lol

DAII
09-14-2010, 12:41 PM
Dan I think you are the only one mentioning Holy Hair still...it has defined your ministry.

I hope the record shows I stood against FALSE DOCTRINE and FOR TRUTH.

While on the topic of TV, Robert ... How will you reconcile this blatant conflict of interest ...

for example ... when masses come to Christ and "the light" through your TV ministry ... and then you ask the prospective disciple to get rid of the very medium that helped them come to Christ ... How will you do this?

Without holiness no man or tv watcher will see God.

How will you reconcile this bi-annual pledge and oath you've made to preach and teach against TV and this new layer to your ministry?

Will you tell them ... you can own a monitor in your home and a TV enabled computer but not a TV, as you do?

Will you do telethons to pay for the costs or does that come out of the members' tithes?

Pressing-On
09-14-2010, 12:49 PM
Dan I think you are the only one mentioning Holy Hair still...it has defined your ministry.

Danny is our local UPCI Jihadist. Beware! He wants to take anyone down, publicly, in the most the abrasive way. That's our Danny boy! :thumbsup

DAII
09-14-2010, 12:53 PM
Danny is our local UPCI Jihadist. Beware! He wants to take anyone down, publicly, in the most the abrasive way. That's our Danny boy! :thumbsup

PO is our community whiner and pouter. That's our PO.

Pressing-On
09-14-2010, 12:59 PM
PO is our community whiner and pouter. That's our PO.

LOL!

But, you are basically acting like a jerk toward McKee and I find that a whole lot more disconcerting than anything you prescribe to me. Being a UPCI Jihadist takes up a lot of your time. Going to General Conference so that you can make your report or do you actually care about anyone in attendance? I find it hypocritical of you to even attend. They are not in your best interest.

DAII
09-14-2010, 01:03 PM
LOL!

But, you are basically acting like a jerk toward McKee and I find that a whole lot more disconcerting than anything you prescribe to me. Being a UPCI Jihadist takes up a lot of your time. Going to General Conference so that you can make your report or do you actually care about anyone in attendance? I find it hypocritical of you to even attend. They are not in your best interest.

Going to see lifelong friends and God's family ... is hypocritical ...

Heck, I might even return to the Truth ...

This deserves a poll.

missourimary
09-14-2010, 01:34 PM
Since when has it become hypocritical to attend a church service, PO?

canam
09-14-2010, 02:23 PM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".

If you disagree with TV ministry, I respect your views...

Our services will also be Itunes video podcasts (but not for a few weeks). I'll post the links here when we do.

Have a wonderful week!
Rob McKee

P.S. "Shara (my wife) has a show on Tuesday nights @ 8:30pm called "The Music of Pentecost". (The first broadcast was this week). She features only Apostolic Pentecostals singers and musicians.

My view is i think its a waste of time and money, your not reaching the target audience which is the youth ,people in nursing homes or house bound ,yes. Same with internet broadcasts, in another words your preaching to the choir(on internet) show me one person who has been saved and attends church reguarly as a result of anyones tv or internet ministry.

Praxeas
09-14-2010, 02:33 PM
Curious, why New York and Virginia?

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 02:53 PM
My view is i think its a waste of time and money, your not reaching the target audience which is the youth ,people in nursing homes or house bound ,yes. Same with internet broadcasts, in another words your preaching to the choir(on internet) show me one person who has been saved and attends church reguarly as a result of anyones tv or internet ministry.

Do you really want to see them or are you just belly-aching? If you do...visit POK next Sunday. Probably 1/4 of our church (current membership) found us online before they visited....and yes...they are now in the choir. Out of the 168 that received the Holy Ghost last year...over 100 found us first through the internet ministry. Most have already watched our services before they decided to visit. I don't mind preaching to my future choir however...I'd hope it would include a few ushers, Sunday school teachers, preachers...etc.

Although we just started our TV ministry...our Minister of small groups and his wife were won through TV ministry. Our church appeared on the local news a few years ago and they decided to visit based on what they saw.

LOL...Who said my target audience was the elderly and youth? I'm trying to sow in as many directions as I can. If all I do is win a buck-tooth-cross-eyed-one-legged pirate to God...it was worth it. That one-legged pirate might have been your brother...what would that be worth to you?

Concerning nursing home...we already do that...we have nursing home service every Sunday morning. We are however reaching some elderly shut ins that cannot leave their homes...although I could name only four in particular... In my opinion four souls would make the entire venture successful.

Beware...just because something didn't work for anyone you know doesn't mean it doesn't work. You just may not know many people.

Maximilian
09-14-2010, 02:56 PM
My view is i think its a waste of time and money, your not reaching the target audience which is the youth ,people in nursing homes or house bound ,yes. Same with internet broadcasts, in another words your preaching to the choir(on internet) show me one person who has been saved and attends church reguarly as a result of anyones tv or internet ministry.

I actually agree... TV ministry hasn't proven itself to be effective. It works for mega churches that sell books to the masses, or ask people to send money. Otherwise, good ol' discipleship and being a neighbor works best.

But... that's it's track record. Maybe the McKee's will have better results. Try all you can... I'm not against trying.

DAII
09-14-2010, 02:56 PM
Do you really want to see them or are you just belly-aching? If you do...visit POK next Sunday. Probably 1/4 of our church (current membership) found us online before they visited....and yes...they are now in the choir. Out of the 168 that received the Holy Ghost last year...over 100 found us first through the internet ministry. Most have already watched our services before they decided to visit. I don't mind preaching to my future choir however...I'd hope it would include a few ushers, Sunday school teachers, preachers...etc.

Although we just started our TV ministry...our Minister of small groups and his wife were won through TV ministry. Our church appeared on the local news a few years ago and they decided to visit based on what they saw.

LOL...Who said my target audience was the elderly and youth? I'm trying to sow in as many directions as I can. If all I do is win a buck-tooth-cross-eyed-one-legged pirate to God...it was worth it. That one-legged pirate might have been your brother...what would that be worth to you?

Concerning nursing home...we already do that...we have nursing home service every Sunday morning. We are however reaching some elderly shut ins that cannot leave their homes...although I could name only four in particular... In my opinion four souls would make the entire venture successful.

Beware...just because something didn't work for anyone you know doesn't mean it doesn't work. You just may not know many people.

Bait em ... then skin 'em ... Hook em' through the debbil's box and then tell them it's got to go.:thumbsup

Will you add a disclaimer before the program that the next 30 or 60 minutes might lead to them having to get rid of their TV?

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 02:57 PM
Curious, why New York and Virginia?

The main reason is Souls...New York...the largest gathering of souls in America

Of course...the other primary reason is that they were available...
In the next few months we hope to add stations in Alabama, Florida & DFW (along with many more in Texas).

In 2011 we plan on adding some South American spanish stations along with the nation of Nigeria and South Africa.

DAII
09-14-2010, 03:00 PM
The main reason is Souls...New York...the largest gathering of souls in America

Of course...the other primary reason is that they were available...
In the next few months we hope to add stations in Alabama, Florida & DFW (along with many more in Texas).

In 2011 we plan on adding some South American spanish stations along with the nation of Nigeria and South Africa.

As much as you believe Truth ... do you believe in truth in advertising ... or will you bait and switch?

or do you really believe in holiness?

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 03:02 PM
Everyone...Please be patient with Dan...he needs an enemy to have something to say.

Thank you Bro Max...I value your prayers.

OneAccord
09-14-2010, 03:02 PM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".

If you disagree with TV ministry, I respect your views...

Our services will also be Itunes video podcasts (but not for a few weeks). I'll post the links here when we do.

Have a wonderful week!
Rob McKee

P.S. "Shara (my wife) has a show on Tuesday nights @ 8:30pm called "The Music of Pentecost". (The first broadcast was this week). She features only Apostolic Pentecostals singers and musicians.

For what its worth, Bro. McKee, I pray God blesses your efforts....

DAII
09-14-2010, 03:02 PM
My view is i think its a waste of time and money, your not reaching the target audience which is the youth ,people in nursing homes or house bound ,yes. Same with internet broadcasts, in another words your preaching to the choir(on internet) show me one person who has been saved and attends church reguarly as a result of anyones tv or internet ministry.

Great post.

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 03:04 PM
For what its worth, Bro. McKee, I pray God blesses your efforts....

Thank you for your prayers...we'll see how it goes...
When I stand before God I want to be able to say I tried my best to save as many as I could...

DAII
09-14-2010, 03:04 PM
Everyone...Please be patient with Dan...he needs an enemy to have something to say.

Thank you Bro Max...I value your prayers.

Rob, do I have to post your remarks again from the masonic forum?
They reveal a lot about you Robert.

DAII
09-14-2010, 03:04 PM
Thank you for your prayers...we'll see how it goes...
When I stand before God I want to be able to say I tried my best to save as many as I could...

But not be honest to men?

Maximilian
09-14-2010, 03:06 PM
Most unchurched people today view religion on TV with major skepticism. Barna and others have proven this with polls taken over and over again. Of course, just talking to non-churched people would show this attitude. We constantly have to clarify that we aren't the "TV evangelist" type.

The broadcast is going into places where there is no faith community to continue/begin the discipleship?

Another concern with TV broadcasts (which I didn't know were included in the resolution) is that the money spent could be better spent investing into the local communities, people with needs in the Church, focusing on the local church or world missions. Is TV advertising the best return on the buck? The wisest investment?

There, of course, is a great temptation for self-promotion in TV as well.

But... I'm sure there are some success stories. For each his own, but I think these things should be considered when deciding.

DAII
09-14-2010, 03:07 PM
The same folks that blast this forum for being ungodly and apostate ... use its influence and reach to advance and advertise their pet projects and pimp their books and CDs.

It's uncanny. AFF ... you should feel used and violated.

DAII
09-14-2010, 03:10 PM
Dan...you are the one on Ritalin...I don't think anyone could stop you...lol
...it seems your only ministry...go for it.

C'mon Robert ... this is going to make you some money ... right?
Maybe sell more of Shara's CDs?

That's why folks go "Charismatic"?

Praxeas
09-14-2010, 03:19 PM
Can you guys go bury the hatchet in each other's backs somewhere else please?

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 03:20 PM
Most unchurched people today view religion on TV with major skepticism. Barna and others have proven this with polls taken over and over again. Of course, just talking to non-churched people would show this attitude. We constantly have to clarify that we aren't the "TV evangelist" type.

The broadcast is going into places where there is no faith community to continue/begin the discipleship?

Another concern with TV broadcasts (which I didn't know were included in the resolution) is that the money spent could be better spent investing into the local communities, people with needs in the Church, focusing on the local church or world missions. Is TV advertising the best return on the buck? The wisest investment?

There, of course, is a great temptation for self-promotion in TV as well.

But... I'm sure there are some success stories. For each his own, but I think these things should be considered when deciding.

Valid questions Max...
I held the same view for years.
Concerning the value vs return...God really did a miracle.
Concerning the reward...We have a potential audience of over 10 million souls...(of course that's just potential audience...the actual numbers would be significantly lower to say the least...lol)

The resolution allowed for tv advertisement...which included broadcast. Someone at the meeting tried to limit it to commercials and not broadcasting but there was too much grey area...(ex. infomercials, concerts, children's programing..etc). The amendment to the resolution was voted down.

Cindy
09-14-2010, 03:30 PM
Can you guys go bury the hatchet in each other's backs somewhere else please?

:thumbsup

tstew
09-14-2010, 03:52 PM
Personally, I applaud any effort to get the Apostolic message to as many people as possible...or to people who may never have another opportunity to receive it. I wish we could keep that as the main thing; recognizing that even in the amount of time it took me to read this thread, hundreds of people have left to face eternity.

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 04:00 PM
Personally, I applaud any effort to get the Apostolic message to as many people as possible...or to people who may never have another opportunity to receive it. I wish we could keep that as the main thing; recognizing that even in the amount of time it took me to read this thread, hundreds of people have left to face eternity.

Thank you...and amen

Socialite
09-14-2010, 04:12 PM
Personally, I applaud any effort to get the Apostolic message to as many people as possible...or to people who may never have another opportunity to receive it. I wish we could keep that as the main thing; recognizing that even in the amount of time it took me to read this thread, hundreds of people have left to face eternity.

*rolles eyes*

Sigh.

The oft-and-over-used argument point.

Trying to keep my bathroom breaks shorter these days, in that extra time I could convert someone to heaven.

What are we hoping to communicate on these broadcasts? Will it be Christ-centered? Will people have an opportunity to follow-up with this exposure with their questions to someone locally?

Mass broadcasting has its place I'm sure. But nothing takes the place of grassroots, authentic, organic, relationship-based, love-exemplifying Gospel-centered lives.

Pressing-On
09-14-2010, 04:14 PM
Can you guys go bury the hatchet in each other's backs somewhere else please?

"You guys"? I've never seen Rob starting anything. Danny needs to bury his own hatchet. Do Jihadists ever bury their hatchets? :heeheehee

DAII
09-14-2010, 04:18 PM
Valid questions Max...
I held the same view for years.
Concerning the value vs return...God really did a miracle.
Concerning the reward...We have a potential audience of over 10 million souls...(of course that's just potential audience...the actual numbers would be significantly lower to say the least...lol)

The resolution allowed for tv advertisement...which included broadcast. Someone at the meeting tried to limit it to commercials and not broadcasting but there was too much grey area...(ex. infomercials, concerts, children's programing..etc). The amendment to the resolution was voted down.
The same questions I've asked were asked by "men of God" like Larry Booker, Nate Wilson, the Godairs yet like them, legitimate questions as to the integrity, hypocrisy and inconsistency of this matter is either ignored or marginalized with remarks about Ritalin, misdirection or in their case just a power play to be the next GS.

You can't have it both ways. They are legitimate questions or your fellowship will continue to be the whipping boy because of TV.

DAII
09-14-2010, 04:22 PM
"You guys"? I've never seen Rob starting anything. Danny needs to bury his own hatchet. Do Jihadists ever bury their hatchets? :heeheehee

PO, your memory fails you.

Pressing-On
09-14-2010, 04:26 PM
PO, your memory fails you.

What? Jihadists do bury their hatchets? I did not know that. We have hope! :heeheehee

DAII
09-14-2010, 04:40 PM
Can you guys go bury the hatchet in each other's backs somewhere else please?
How is Max doing?

Praxeas
09-14-2010, 05:32 PM
How is Max doing?Maxy seems fine.

BTW why is it "The McKees" on TV? Is there a huge demand to see them on TV?

seekerman
09-14-2010, 05:40 PM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".



It'd be interesting for you to open your show with the song Bishop S.C. Johnson opened his services with on radio many years ago. "One way to God...baptize in Jesus name".

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 05:45 PM
Maxy seems fine.

BTW why is it "The McKees" on TV? Is there a huge demand to see them on TV?
LOL...maybe my wife...certainly not me.

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 05:45 PM
It'd be interesting for you to open your show with the song Bishop S.C. Johnson opened his services with on radio many years ago. "One way to God...baptize in Jesus name".

sorry...I don't know S.C. Johnson. Did he write that song...great song...love it.

Cindy
09-14-2010, 05:48 PM
Pray that we can be a light in a dark world...
We are being broadcast on local tv in the following cities...
* Houston, Texas
* Lufkin, Texas
* San Angelo, Texas
* Victoria, Texas
* Richmond, Virginia
* New York, New York
* Hampton, Virginia
* Beaumont, Texas
* Lake Charles, Louisiana

Our program will be broadcast @ 8:30am-9am (Central Time). It is called "The Pentecostal Experience with Rob McKee".

If you disagree with TV ministry, I respect your views...

Our services will also be Itunes video podcasts (but not for a few weeks). I'll post the links here when we do.

Have a wonderful week!
Rob McKee

P.S. "Shara (my wife) has a show on Tuesday nights @ 8:30pm called "The Music of Pentecost". (The first broadcast was this week). She features only Apostolic Pentecostals singers and musicians.

I wonder if we can pull in any of the Texas or even the Louisiana stations. I really would like to be able to watch. Our local stations broadcast mostly other denominations.

seekerman
09-14-2010, 05:51 PM
sorry...I don't know S.C. Johnson. Did he write that song...great song...love it.

I'm not sure who wrote the song, but I have to agree it was a great (even though it was theologically in error) song. Catchy tune. Good organ and the choir could sing it well.

As far as I'm aware, Bishop Johnson died many years ago. I'm not sure if there's still a church at 22nd and Bambridge Streets, Philadelphia, PA or not.

tstew
09-14-2010, 07:18 PM
*rolles eyes*

Sigh.

The oft-and-over-used argument point.

Trying to keep my bathroom breaks shorter these days, in that extra time I could convert someone to heaven.

What are we hoping to communicate on these broadcasts? Will it be Christ-centered? Will people have an opportunity to follow-up with this exposure with their questions to someone locally?

Mass broadcasting has its place I'm sure. But nothing takes the place of grassroots, authentic, organic, relationship-based, love-exemplifying Gospel-centered lives.
I was actually not arguing with anybody. I was commenting on the brother spreading the gospel.
And for the record, I'm not sure that anyone here is talking about mass broadcasting at the expense of Gospel-centered lives and relationships. If they are then I would argue about that....without the eye-rolling of course. :)

pelathais
09-14-2010, 07:34 PM
Most unchurched people today view religion on TV with major skepticism. Barna and others have proven this with polls taken over and over again. Of course, just talking to non-churched people would show this attitude. We constantly have to clarify that we aren't the "TV evangelist" type.

The broadcast is going into places where there is no faith community to continue/begin the discipleship?

Another concern with TV broadcasts (which I didn't know were included in the resolution) is that the money spent could be better spent investing into the local communities, people with needs in the Church, focusing on the local church or world missions. Is TV advertising the best return on the buck? The wisest investment?

There, of course, is a great temptation for self-promotion in TV as well.

But... I'm sure there are some success stories. For each his own, but I think these things should be considered when deciding.

I agree with you generally, however the UPC really has an opportunity here to set themselves apart from the "Cotton-candy colored hair" and the "Bodies Hit da Floor!" crowd. A lot of other television media might even help to promote it.

Here is a a group that has has eschewed the "evils" of telebision since before the days of Uncle Milty. And now, they are venturing out across the airwaves, the cables and the "tubes" that connect the Internet with something... different!

That idea is appealing right there. Of course, they'd have to truly be "something different" and ... "RELEVANT" to make it work.

Esther
09-14-2010, 10:06 PM
My view is i think its a waste of time and money, your not reaching the target audience which is the youth ,people in nursing homes or house bound ,yes. Same with internet broadcasts, in another words your preaching to the choir(on internet) show me one person who has been saved and attends church reguarly as a result of anyones tv or internet ministry.

I know there are some that are house bound and the only church they get is what they find on TV. Why not have one with truth being preached?

I understand where Dan is coming from on saying don't preach against the tool you plan on using.

However, my only suggestion is remove your name from the title. It reminds me of a testimony I heard Bro. T. W. Barnes make. He put up a sign "Come to T. W. Barnes Healing Ministry". God told him he hoped he did well, because He wouldn't be there since his sign said T. W. Barnes instead of Jesus. He immediately removed the sign.

I saw a billboard that had the church name and the pastor's picture on it. I told someone I was concerned about the pastor's picture on the billboard. Later he and his wife divorced. You can't share God's glory with man in any way.

I would say pray about it. But for ME I can't do it. I fear God to much.

But I think it is a great idea to have your ministry on TV, as long as you keep to the truth. Too many let their ego's change their message.

mizpeh
09-14-2010, 10:25 PM
I know there are some that are house bound and the only church they get is what they find on TV. Why not have one with truth being preached?

I understand where Dan is coming from on saying don't preach against the tool you plan on using.

However, my only suggestion is remove your name from the title. It reminds me of a testimony I heard Bro. T. W. Barnes make. He put up a sign "Come to T. W. Barnes Healing Ministry". God told him he hoped he did well, because He wouldn't be there since his sign said T. W. Barnes instead of Jesus. He immediately removed the sign.

I saw a billboard that had the church name and the pastor's picture on it. I told someone I was concerned about the pastor's picture on the billboard. Later he and his wife divorced. You can't share God's glory with man in any way.

I would say pray about it. But for ME I can't do it. I fear God to much.

But I think it is a great idea to have your ministry on TV, as long as you keep to the truth. Too many let their ego's change their message.I was thinking the same thing when I read that Rob McKee's name was to be in the title. Leave your name out, Rob, and lift up the name of Jesus Christ. Other than that, I pray that the Lord anoints and blesses His word spoken through you and that many are saved. But most importantly that Jesus Christ receives all of the glory for every bit of it!

Rob McKee
09-14-2010, 10:50 PM
I know there are some that are house bound and the only church they get is what they find on TV. Why not have one with truth being preached?

I understand where Dan is coming from on saying don't preach against the tool you plan on using.

However, my only suggestion is remove your name from the title. It reminds me of a testimony I heard Bro. T. W. Barnes make. He put up a sign "Come to T. W. Barnes Healing Ministry". God told him he hoped he did well, because He wouldn't be there since his sign said T. W. Barnes instead of Jesus. He immediately removed the sign.

I saw a billboard that had the church name and the pastor's picture on it. I told someone I was concerned about the pastor's picture on the billboard. Later he and his wife divorced. You can't share God's glory with man in any way.

I would say pray about. But for ME I can't do it. I fear God to much.

But I think it is a great idea to have your ministry on TV, as long as you keep to the truth. Too many let their ego's change their message.

Ester...thank you for your comments... I have never preached against people in our church owning a tv..Dan knows that...Dan was trying to make some deeper point about the UPCI...hypocrisy...blah blah

I believe Dan was been hurt by someone in UPC years ago...(of course...who hasnt been? All who live Godly will suffer persecution...sometimes by our brothers...but we must get over it) that's why you see so much bitterness towards it (making websites trying to discredit ministers etc.). It appears to be his life's passion. He has become known as "the guy online who hates Bro Stoneking". In life we will either carry a harvest sickle or a sword of war...I choose the sickle...

I too have heard that story about Bro Barnes...he was one of my apostolic heroes. As far as my name being attached to the broadcast...I completely agree with you. I brought this up to the station when we met (some may not believe me...but God is my witness). I wanted it to be more focused on The Pentecostals of Katy and the church...unfortunately it wasn't my decision. The station said it would make it difficult to market. At the last minute we added my name (my wife's was always attached to her show)

One note about seeming prideful..there is a flip side to pride...I believe the same pride that will cause some to sit on the platform will cause some to sit on the back row. Fear of being talked about is rooted in pride. I battle with my pride daily...chances are pretty good that we all do. I'm not above getting wrapped up in myself at times...I sincerely value your prayers.