Charismatic Identification Process

[Mr. Smith]

If you answer, "Yes" to 3 or more of these questions, you are a charismatic. I'm just getting this list started so feel free to add a question or two to the list.



1) Have you ever said, "Hmmm, good point" to anything Kim Clement has ever said?

2) Have you ever thought laughing for 20 minutes in church when no one told a joke was a good idea?

3) When one of the 400 people in attendance stood up and said, "Yes!!" when the guest evangelist said, "Is there anyone here named "Bob?", have you ever said, "That was God!!"

4) Have you ever hustled to the bank to max out your credit card to put the money in the offering when the guest evangelist told you to?

5) Have you never, ever considered why no one is ever healed of anything you can actually verify?

6) Do you use the TBN Praise-a-thon money vultures as a model for taking offerings in your church?

[pelathais]

My answers:

1) Who?

2) No. But I seldom laugh at all anymore.

3) There is actually a long running website for a "church" that "worships" a "god" named Bob. http://www.subgenius.com/

4) My pastor said to do that once. And no.

5) No. I have always considered this.

6) Fellowshipping with a group that pays its own way negates that opportunity.

[Mr. Smith]

My answers:

1) Who?

2) No. But I seldom laugh at all anymore.

3) There is actually a long running website for a "church" that "worships" a "god" named Bob. http://www.subgenius.com/

4) My pastor said to do that once. And no.

5) No. I have always considered this.

6) Fellowshipping with a group that pays its own way negates that opportunity.




You're obviously no charismatic. Congratulations!

[Jack Shephard]

I said yes to all the above....



Kiddin'

[Sam]

The only one I said "yes" to was number 1.

So I guess I don't qualify as a Charismatic.

Maybe I need to change my signature and my business card.

P.S. The web site on my card does not work and I don't know how to fix that. The young man that set up the site is no longer in contact with me and the last I heard from him he was now a young lady in New England.

[Mr. Smith]

The only one I said "yes" to was number 1.

So I guess I don't qualify as a Charismatic.

Maybe I need to change my signature and my business card.

P.S. The web site on my card does not work and I don't know how to fix that. The young man that set up the site is no longer in contact with me and the last I heard from him he was now a young lady in New England.


Actually, number one may just trump the rest of the questions. What in the world did that fruit loop say that you liked???:lol

[Sam]

Actually, number one may just trump the rest of the questions. What in the world did that fruit loop say that you liked???:lol

I can't remember anything specific right now.
I've read several of his prophecies that have been part of The Elijah List.

Actually, another identification that you might be a Charismatic is

--You receive the Elijah list ( http://www.elijahlist.com/ )in your email every day, read it, and then forward it to your friends

[Mr. Smith]

I can't remember anything specific right now.
I've read several of his prophecies that have been part of The Elijah List.

Actually, another identification that you might be a Charismatic is

--You receive the Elijah list ( http://www.elijahlist.com/ )in your email every day, read it, and then forward it to your friends


I've never hear of the Elijah list. Kim Clement is correct on, probably, 20 prophecies each year. Problem is, he makes about a thousand predictions.

[Sam]

I've never hear of the Elijah list. Kim Clement is correct on, probably, 20 prophecies each year. Problem is, he makes about a thousand predictions.

not a very good track record, is it?

The Elijah list publishes prophecies and teaching, also has CD's and literature available, and lists conferences and meetings that are going on. It's probably a modern or online equivalent of the old "Voice of Healing" magazine that Gordon Lindsey started back in the nineteen fifties to promote and report on different evangelists.

[Jack Shephard]

I've never hear of the Elijah list. Kim Clement is correct on, probably, 20 prophecies each year. Problem is, he makes about a thousand predictions.

Well with a thousand prophecies a year that mean that at 20% is 200 correct ones per year....that is a lot of accuarcy.

[Mr. Smith]

not a very good track record, is it?

The Elijah list publishes prophecies and teaching, also has CD's and literature available, and lists conferences and meetings that are going on. It's probably a modern or online equivalent of the old "Voice of Healing" magazine that Gordon Lindsey started back in the nineteen fifties to promote and report on different evangelists.


Speaking of good ole' Kim, the prophetic piano player (yes, you read that correctly, folks) he yearly gives his predictions, kinda like Jeane Dixon and Pat Robertson. You can look it up online. It is absolutely laughable what he has prophesied, and dang it, people just keep flocking to his events. Doesn't anyone give a hoot if he's accurate? It's really disgusting.

[Sam]

Well with a thousand prophecies a year that mean that at 20% is 200 correct ones per year....that is a lot of accuarcy.

He said 20 correct prophecies out of a thousand given, not 20 percent correct.

[Cindy]

1. No clue who that is.
2. No.
3. No.
4. No.
5. No.
6. No.

[Jack Shephard]

He said 20 correct prophecies out of a thousand given, not 20 percent correct.

I know. I am grading him on a generous curve.

[Cindy]

Speaking of good ole' Kim, the prophetic piano player (yes, you read that correctly, folks) he yearly gives his predictions, kinda like Jeane Dixon and Pat Robertson. You can look it up online. It is absolutely laughable what he has prophesied, and dang it, people just keep flocking to his events. Doesn't anyone give a hoot if he's accurate? It's really disgusting.

Does he look like Liberace?

[Jack Shephard]

Does he look like Liberace?

Nope, but he has LONG hair...and it is not shameful. :grampa

[Sam]

Does he look like Liberace?

who knows what Liberace looks like?
He's been dead for years now.
:grampa

[Mr. Smith]

who knows what Liberace looks like?
He's been dead for years now.
:grampa


I would post a picture of a skeleton but that would be in bad taste, huh?

[Mr. Smith]

Does he look like Liberace?

Here's the dude.

[Sam]

Here's the dude.

Kim Clement is considered by many to be a prophet.

There are a couple of options we may take for that.

We can be like the cessationists and like I was taught in a UPC Bible School 50 some years ago and say that there are no prophets today and have not been since the first century.

Or we can say that the only real prophets today would be Oneness Pentecostal three-steppers with UPC cards in their wallets and who are current with their signing the Affirmation Statement and with sending in their dues and fees.

Or we can acknowledge that there can be prophets to day and we might not see eye to eye with them on all things. If so, we have to apply a few Scriptural tests:

1 Thessalonians 5:19-21 applies here.
19 Do not stifle the Holy Spirit. 20 Do not scoff at prophecies, 21 but test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good.

So does Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

And so does Jeremiah 5:13
The prophets have become wind (or windbags) and my Word is not in them.

In other words, judge everything by the written Word and by allowing some time to see if it really happens.

[coadie]

If you answer, "Yes" to 3 or more of these questions, you are a charismatic. I'm just getting this list started so feel free to add a question or two to the list.



1) Have you ever said, "Hmmm, good point" to anything Kim Clement has ever said?

2) Have you ever thought laughing for 20 minutes in church when no one told a joke was a good idea?

3) When one of the 400 people in attendance stood up and said, "Yes!!" when the guest evangelist said, "Is there anyone here named "Bob?", have you ever said, "That was God!!"

4) Have you ever hustled to the bank to max out your credit card to put the money in the offering when the guest evangelist told you to?

5) Have you never, ever considered why no one is ever healed of anything you can actually verify?

6) Do you use the TBN Praise-a-thon money vultures as a model for taking offerings in your church?

So you are the loner charismatic here?

[rgcraig]

Speaking of good ole' Kim, the prophetic piano player (yes, you read that correctly, folks) he yearly gives his predictions, kinda like Jeane Dixon and Pat Robertson. You can look it up online. It is absolutely laughable what he has prophesied, and dang it, people just keep flocking to his events. Doesn't anyone give a hoot if he's accurate? It's really disgusting.

You're jealous of his hair!

[DAII]

According to Rob McKee ... I'm a Charismatic Reprobate.