Ubuntu on a Dell....

[Ronzo]

BOOM, I'm downloading it right now... I might be bugging you a lot about it looking for help, bro.


I've got an Inspiron E1705. Currently running Vista on it.

Figured I'd give Ubuntu a chance.

Any tips on running a dual boot system with Ubuntu?

[Ronzo]

K... so I TRIED to install it, but I evidently do not know what I'm doing.

Booted from the bootable Ubuntu CD I made (after I checked it for errors). It ran through a bit of loading drivers, etc... then it told me the "GMC" (?) failed to load because there were no screens present.

Then it went to a Linux command prompt...

I'm ig'nant....

[Praxeas]

BOOM, I'm downloading it right now... I might be bugging you a lot about it looking for help, bro.


I've got an Inspiron E1705. Currently running Vista on it.

Figured I'd give Ubuntu a chance.

Any tips on running a dual boot system with Ubuntu?
is it the new version? I hear it stinks

[Ronzo]

I downloaded the newset version... like I said. It didn't install.

It hates me.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

K... so I TRIED to install it, but I evidently do not know what I'm doing.

Booted from the bootable Ubuntu CD I made (after I checked it for errors). It ran through a bit of loading drivers, etc... then it told me the "GMC" (?) failed to load because there were no screens present.

Then it went to a Linux command prompt...

I'm ig'nant....


If this is the live CD, you are already logged in as root, as root is the only user on the live CD. Is this an experiment to supplement Winders, or is it a new complete install?

Type this at the command prompt

startx

Mind you there could be a hardware conflict stopping the window manager (program that makes the deektop and allows Graphic Interface to access all the programs) to not load. Most often the video card drivers are the culprit. I replaced the ATI card in my Dimension 4100 with a new NVIDIA card this year.

Prax, the Beta was problematic, but the release is rock solid. :thumbsup

[Ronzo]

It's an install in addition to Vista. Looking to do dual boot.

Don't tell me I have to wipe Windows off and load Ubuntu first... please? PLEASE don't tell me that.

I'm not going to switch video cards on my notebook... Sorry...

I guess I'll just wait until Dell releases Linux drivers for the Inspiron E1705.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

It's an install in addition to Vista. Looking to do dual boot.

Don't tell me I have to wipe Windows off and load Ubuntu first... please? PLEASE don't tell me that.

I'm not going to switch video cards on my notebook... Sorry...

I guess I'll just wait until Dell releases Linux drivers for the Inspiron E1705.

http://lkozma.infogami.com/linux


Downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 CD image for desktop/laptop PCs. Booted the cd, but the installation in graphic mode wouldn't start, not even in safe mode. "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)." After viewing all the logs, it says: "The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly.".

Here I pressed CTRL-ALT-F1 to open a console.
There I enter: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
A lot of questions about video card and stuff, as far as I remember, I left the defaults in most places, and it seemed to detect everything ok. After that "startx", then the gnome graphical interface started, and I clicked the install.
From then on, everything went smoothly, I used the whole hdd for linux, and let ubuntu do everything automatically. Installation took about 30 minutes, and recognized most stuff automatically, including the wireless 3945 and the touchpad with scrollbars.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296354

[Ronzo]

Tanx.

I'll mess with it over the weekend.

[Sheltiedad]

If it still works the way it used to, Linux will not support an NTFS partition, so you would need to have your Vista installed on a FAT32 partition before being able to dual boot.

However the fact that it won't even boot into X windows while on the CD makes me think you have some hardware incompatibility on your computer... you might take out any cards that you are not using and try booting to the cd again.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

If it still works the way it used to, Linux will not support an NTFS partition, so you would need to have your Vista installed on a FAT32 partition before being able to dual boot.

However the fact that it won't even boot into X windows while on the CD makes me think you have some hardware incompatibility on your computer... you might take out any cards that you are not using and try booting to the cd again.

It is a laptop....

[Praxeas]

It's an install in addition to Vista. Looking to do dual boot.

Don't tell me I have to wipe Windows off and load Ubuntu first... please? PLEASE don't tell me that.

I'm not going to switch video cards on my notebook... Sorry...

I guess I'll just wait until Dell releases Linux drivers for the Inspiron E1705.
Your notebook has a video card? That's rare except in very expensive high end gaming notebooks

[Praxeas]

If it still works the way it used to, Linux will not support an NTFS partition, so you would need to have your Vista installed on a FAT32 partition before being able to dual boot.

However the fact that it won't even boot into X windows while on the CD makes me think you have some hardware incompatibility on your computer... you might take out any cards that you are not using and try booting to the cd again.
Will Vista even run on Fat32?

[Ronzo]

Your notebook has a video card? That's rare except in very expensive high end gaming notebooks
It's a multimedia geared notebook with an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 256MB video card. The upgrade is the Nvidia GeFroce Go 7900 256MB video card, which if I would like to buy aftermarket, would be nearly another $400. Not worth it to me... way too much money that I simply don't have.




I've decided to forget about trying it... I'm really not happy at the thought that I'd probably end up toasting the Vista OS and would have to start over completely...

I've got enough things going wrong in my life right now, I don't need that aggravation on top of it...

[KwaiQ]

Use partition magic or a similar partition manager program to resize your Windows partition leaving some free space (4GB would be good). Then download UbuntuCE (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/download.html), boot the live CD and click on the install icon on the desktop when it loads.

Tech support in the name of KwaiQ is available free of charge Bro! Give it a second chance!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Use partition magic or a similar partition manager program to resize your Windows partition leaving some free space (4GB would be good). Then download UbuntuCE (http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/download.html), boot the live CD and click on the install icon on the desktop when it loads.

Tech support in the name of KwaiQ is available free of charge Bro! Give it a second chance!

Is Christian Ubuntu available with Feisty and Beryl yet?

Ronzo, your grief is the Nvidia card.

http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_nVidia_cards

This can be solved easily (Boomm runs Nvidia and has Beryl and Smoothdock too!)

I don't even have Wine running here. 100% Linux- I do have some restricted drivers though.

[KwaiQ]

Is Christian Ubuntu available with Feisty and Beryl yet?

Ronzo, your grief is the Nvidia card.

http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Support_for_nVidia_cards

This can be solved easily (Boomm runs Nvidia and has Beryl and Smoothdock too!)

I don't even have Wine running here. 100% Linux- I do have some restricted drivers though.

UbuntuCE 3.2 is based off of Feisty.

[KwaiQ]

I like wine... let's me run e-sword!

[KwaiQ]

Although Gnomesword is OK

[Ronzo]

Ronzo, your grief is the Nvidia card.


Nope... it's not. Know why? I don't have an Nvidia card in my notebook. I have an ATI... :sly

It's a multimedia geared notebook with an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 256MB video card.

[Ronzo]

I like wine... I'm tellin'!:evilglee

[Ronzo]

Although Gnomesword is OK
You guys remind me of some D&D geeks with all this linux terminology... ;)

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I like wine... let's me run e-sword!

Although Gnomesword is OK

Bibletime is the KDE port for Sword.

Still not as good as e-sword or Theophilus I agree!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

You guys remind me of some D&D geeks with all this linux terminology... ;)

LOL I did not post a page of code ------yet! :aaaa

Open the page I sent you, and click around and you will find an ATI guide.

Do only the top half and you have it running. Add the bottom (Beryl) and you have eyecandy.

Beware of Geeks bearing gifts!

[Ronzo]

I've lost interest in Ubuntu, honestly...

It's going to take too much to get it to work... with skills that I don't have.


I'll stick with what I know.

[Sheltiedad]

I'm loving Ubuntu, but I agree it requires some skill to use... I'm still finding things that don't work because I haven't downloading some obscure program (just the simple act of throwing a DVD in the drive and trying to watch it is leading me on a whole new troubleshooting path).

I'm just taking it as a challenge, I should have switched years ago but was too proud of my Microsoft skills. (I don't have a valid license for XP or Vista and don't want to pay for a new one so I figured this was a good time to switch. lol)

[Sheltiedad]

By the way I should have dual screens running Beryl shortly, my video card should arrive today (hopefully second time is a charm. lol)

[KwaiQ]

By the way I should have dual screens running Beryl shortly, my video card should arrive today (hopefully second time is a charm. lol)

Cool! Good luck!

[KwaiQ]

You guys remind me of some D&D geeks with all this linux terminology... ;)

I haven't even rolled the dice yet.... :happydance

[Sheltiedad]

I'm up and running, woo hoo! It's amazing how much easier it is with a supported video card. Now I just need to know where to get the coolest Beryl themes. :D

[KwaiQ]

Congrats!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I'm up and running, woo hoo! It's amazing how much easier it is with a supported video card. Now I just need to know where to get the coolest Beryl themes. :D

The only real available themes are Emerald and they can be added with Adept or Synaptic.

(I added Synaptic in KDE myself)

I added also smoothdock and I really like this one running in center of bottom of screen keeping corners open.

I keep radio/kaffiene on one desktop, Firefox running on another, and mail on another.

I then drop to a corner and spin my mouse which spins the cube to another app- like having Alt-Tab with my mouse.

Sheltie, did you add drivers with system, or did you reference the page I put up here? I had a bugger of a time getting all the drivers taken out of my system, and now have the latest only. I have a GeForce 6200 card with only one monitor. I want to get a DIV flat screen for dual monitors.

:tvhappy

[Praxeas]

How easy is it to install a dual boot using WinXP and Linux with a GUI? I've never used Linux before but I would like to mess around with it. Im going to be building a new system soon

[Sheltiedad]

The only real available themes are Emerald and they can be added with Adept or Synaptic.

(I added Synaptic in KDE myself)

I added also smoothdock and I really like this one running in center of bottom of screen keeping corners open.

I keep radio/kaffiene on one desktop, Firefox running on another, and mail on another.

I then drop to a corner and spin my mouse which spins the cube to another app- like having Alt-Tab with my mouse.

Sheltie, did you add drivers with system, or did you reference the page I put up here? I had a bugger of a time getting all the drivers taken out of my system, and now have the latest only. I have a GeForce 6200 card with only one monitor. I want to get a DIV flat screen for dual monitors.

:tvhappy

Right now I am using the default Emerald Theme (I want the one that has fire though when you close a screen... I turned it on at one point and now can't figure out how to get it back). I'm running 2 flatscreen 19" monitors side by side both at 1280x1024 giving me a 2560x1024 screen and my card is a NVidea 7600 with one VGA and one DVI port.

Since I had already used "Envy" to load my Nvidea drivers I couldn't follow the regular instructions for updating Nvidea drivers on Feisty but it all seems to be working. I just uninstalled the Nvidea drivers (since they were installed for my old Geforce 4 card) and then reinstalled them again with Envy for my Geforce 7 card.

I also don't know how to do the zoom feature like I have seen in some of the Beryl videos on Youtube... that looks kinda cool.

ElectricSheep looks awesome on dual monitors too!


I'm gonna go play with Smoothdock now and see if I like it.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Right now I am using the default Emerald Theme (I want the one that has fire though when you close a screen... I turned it on at one point and now can't figure out how to get it back). I'm running 2 flatscreen 19" monitors side by side both at 1280x1024 giving me a 2560x1024 screen and my card is a NVidea 7600 with one VGA and one DVI port.

Beryl-Manager>Visual Effects>Animations>(Un)Minimize> Select Burn

Since I had already used "Envy" to load my Nvidea drivers I couldn't follow the regular instructions for updating Nvidea drivers on Feisty but it all seems to be working. I just uninstalled the Nvidea drivers (since they were installed for my old Geforce 4 card) and then reinstalled them again with Envy for my Geforce 7 card.

It it is broke, why not fix it?
Sounds like you have it going good.

I also don't know how to do the zoom feature like I have seen in some of the Beryl videos on Youtube... that looks kinda cool.

Hold they Win Key (Meta) while running your scroll wheel inwards. I use this on photos all the time.

ElectricSheep looks awesome on dual monitors too!


I'm gonna go play with Smoothdock now and see if I like it.

What is Electric Sheep?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

How easy is it to install a dual boot using WinXP and Linux with a GUI? I've never used Linux before but I would like to mess around with it. Im going to be building a new system soon

I have both the Kubuntu box and I have the XP drive still there. I created a virtual directory and can access any files there. I have dual boot into three versions of Linux or the XP box (once every 3 months)

I have 79% of a 31.5 GB partition for Linux running Feisty. I have a 160 Gig drive here. I could mirror the entire 20 Gig XP and not blink. this all on a 933 Mhz P-3 with 1024 meg of Ram. I am not doing video production- I simply websurf here.

[Sheltiedad]

Beryl-Manager>Visual Effects>Animations>(Un)Minimize> Select Burn
Cool! I didn't have the "Beryl Settings Manager" installed so didn't see this option, it's working now.


It it is broke, why not fix it?
Sounds like you have it going good.

Baby-steps! I don't want to bite off more than I can chew... after I get more comfortable using it I will probably blow it all away and start from scratch, but the longer I wait the more I will know next time around :) The goal was just to make it all work so that it can be my main system at home.


Hold they Win Key (Meta) while running your scroll wheel inwards. I use this on photos all the time.

I'm still working on this one... do you mean the Windows key between the CTRL and the ALT Key? It doesn't seem to do anything so I might have to change my keyboard settings... the scroll thing on my mouse does work though so that did help me to see the inverted Beryl spin... this might just be user error. lol.


What is Electric Sheep?

Here is a link, it's a pretty cool screensaver... I'm not sure if I will use it all the time because I also do folding and don't want to waste the processor time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Sheep

[KwaiQ]

How easy is it to install a dual boot using WinXP and Linux with a GUI? I've never used Linux before but I would like to mess around with it. Im going to be building a new system soon

First, make sure you have a seperate partition or free disk space you can use. If you don't use a partition manager (I recommend Partition Magic) to resize your windows partition leaving a few GB (4 or more) of free space for your linux distro.

Next, Choose your Distribution (I like Ubuntu Christian Edition as it includes e-sword) download the iso file and burn that to a disk using your favorite iso burning software (I prefer Nero for this). Then, keep the disk in the drive and reboot your system. Hit F8 when your bios starts to reload, (or whatever key takes you to your boot manager). As the Linux disk loads, follow through the instalation screens to install. If it is a 'live' CD, (like UbuntuCE) then let it load and click on the install icon when the desktop loads. Most distos will ask if you want to install on a seperate partition. Choose the use free space option with the default partitions for swap, etc.... When it is finished installing, reboot the system, and a LILO will pop up asking you which OS you want to load.... examples include Ubuntu, Windows XP, etc...

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

[QUOTE=KwaiQ;170514]

Next, Choose your Distribution (I like Ubuntu Christian Edition as it includes e-sword) download the iso file and burn that to a disk using your favorite iso burning software (I prefer Nero for this). QUOTE]

Do you have Kiosword also?

Is CE Gnome or KDE based?

Are you using NeroLinux or K3B for burning?

[Ronzo]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?
Yep... that's exactly what I thought you said...

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Yep... that's exactly what I thought you said...

:smack

[KwaiQ]

[QUOTE=KwaiQ;170514]

Next, Choose your Distribution (I like Ubuntu Christian Edition as it includes e-sword) download the iso file and burn that to a disk using your favorite iso burning software (I prefer Nero for this). QUOTE]

Do you have Kiosword also?

Is CE Gnome or KDE based?

Are you using NeroLinux or K3B for burning?

Kiosword- never heard of it until now... seems good if you have an internet connection.

CE is Gnome based *ducks thrown tomato*

I use Nautilus CD Burner for GNOME. I use Nero in windows.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

[QUOTE=BoredOutOfMyMind;170797]

Kiosword- never heard of it until now... seems good if you have an internet connection.

CE is Gnome based *ducks thrown tomato*

I use Nautilus CD Burner for GNOME. I use Nero in windows.

Go over to the ubuntuforums and in the CE area you will find Kiosword directions. I believe it will work in Nautilus. I use it in Konqueror. I will dig up the howto and post it.

Remember I do have a Bible link addon for the board.

Acts 2:41

[KwaiQ]

[QUOTE=KwaiQ;171276]

Go over to the ubuntuforums and in the CE area you will find Kiosword directions. I believe it will work in Nautilus. I use it in Konqueror. I will dig up the howto and post it.

Remember I do have a Bible link addon for the board.

Acts 2:41

Speaking of which, is that a vbulletin mod only? I'd love to use it in smf if you got it.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

[QUOTE=BoredOutOfMyMind;171292]

Speaking of which, is that a vbulletin mod only? I'd love to use it in smf if you got it.

what is smf?

[Ronzo]

what is smf?

Open source forum software http://www.simplemachines.org/

[KwaiQ]

Excellent product BTW! Highly recommend it!

[Praxeas]

First, make sure you have a seperate partition or free disk space you can use. If you don't use a partition manager (I recommend Partition Magic) to resize your windows partition leaving a few GB (4 or more) of free space for your linux distro.

There are better solutiosn than PM. Since Symantec bought them out it's not very good, but Im talking about a fresh mount anyways so I can use XP to partition the drive

Next, Choose your Distribution (I like Ubuntu Christian Edition as it includes e-sword) download the iso file and burn that to a disk using your favorite iso burning software (I prefer Nero for this). Then, keep the disk in the drive and reboot your system. Hit F8 when your bios starts to reload, (or whatever key takes you to your boot manager). As the Linux disk loads, follow through the instalation screens to install. If it is a 'live' CD, (like UbuntuCE) then let it load and click on the install icon when the desktop loads. Most distos will ask if you want to install on a seperate partition. Choose the use free space option with the default partitions for swap, etc.... When it is finished installing, reboot the system, and a LILO will pop up asking you which OS you want to load.... examples include Ubuntu, Windows XP, etc...
Ok wait a second. Im installing while IN the boot manager dialog? Is there an option there for that?

This LILO...is that a Windows thing or is that Linux or is that just part of the BIOS? Is the boot manager already installed as part of windows? And how does it handle booting Linux?

Also what file format for the other partition? Can I use the standard NTSF WinNT? Is it a logical partition?

[Ronzo]

Excellent product BTW! Highly recommend it!
Not as secure or functional (from an admin perspective) as vB though... I've used both.

[KwaiQ]

Not as secure or functional (from an admin perspective) as vB though... I've used both.

Even with all the admin mods floating around out there? Never have used vbulletin.

[KwaiQ]

But of course I'm a freeware kinda guy! :)

[Ronzo]

Even with all the admin mods floating around out there? Never have used vbulletin.
Yep... even with the add ons...

I understand about the freeware though... for most stuff I go that route. It's just that some stuff is worth paying for.

[Praxeas]

Im a freeware/cheapware kind of guy lol. I've been using PaintShop pro for years instead of Photoshop, great program but PS is far better.

I have yet to try Gimp. I don't have Office though I have an older version of Word that came with my laptop and I have openoffice. There was a paid version that Sun came out with that was really nice looking. That is the problem with a lot of freebies is they look cheezy

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Im a freeware/cheapware kind of guy lol. I've been using PaintShop pro for years instead of Photoshop, great program but PS is far better.

I have yet to try Gimp. I don't have Office though I have an older version of Word that came with my laptop and I have openoffice. There was a paid version that Sun came out with that was really nice looking. That is the problem with a lot of freebies is they look cheezy


Ahem

Open Office is on the Ubuntu disk. The installer for Windows.....

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Kio-sword Info from Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kio-sword)

[KwaiQ]

Yep... even with the add ons...

I understand about the freeware though... for most stuff I go that route. It's just that some stuff is worth paying for.

I understand. That is how I feel about Nero and Partition Magic. I'll pay for those because they are da bomb!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I understand. That is how I feel about Nero and Partition Magic. I'll pay for those because they are da bomb!

I belong to a forum where they are giving away a licensed copy of VB.

email me and I will shoot you a link for the thread on that forum.

[KwaiQ]

I belong to a forum where they are giving away a licensed copy of VB.

email me and I will shoot you a link for the thread on that forum.

Done!