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FRINGE_NUTTER
05-05-2007, 05:52 PM
After lurking here for several days, I decided to choose a nicname and make a few posts. I am serious about this thread. I would like to know what defines "conservative" or "liberal" in the minds of the people on this forum.

I am somewhat of a fringe_nutter now to some here and to others I would be considered very liberal. This is strictly an educational thread for me and maybe other newbies to the Apostolic realm.

Thanks in advance. In 20 sentences or less define a conservative. In 20 sentences or less define a liberal.

After the serious part with the 20 sentences or less, then you can make the facetious comments.

I am new to all of this Apostolic friends board and would like to make up my mind which way I want to go.

Nahum
05-05-2007, 05:53 PM
Simple, if you are a nut you must be a freaky-con.

The Mrs
05-05-2007, 05:55 PM
Hey...what's a 'fringe_nutter'? :dunno

Sheltiedad
05-05-2007, 05:58 PM
A con starts with culture and then finds scripture to justify it

A lib believes that scriptures should be viewed in cultural context and that you should not read things into the bible that are not there... in a strange way, libs should actually be the conservatives since they are the ones who do not want God's word to be added to.

Felicity
05-05-2007, 06:12 PM
After lurking here for several days, I decided to choose a nicname and make a few posts. I am serious about this thread. I would like to know what defines "conservative" or "liberal" in the minds of the people on this forum.

I am somewhat of a fringe_nutter now to some here and to others I would be considered very liberal. This is strictly an educational thread for me and maybe other newbies to the Apostolic realm.

Thanks in advance. In 20 sentences or less define a conservative. In 20 sentences or less define a liberal.

After the serious part with the 20 sentences or less, then you can make the facetious comments.

I am new to all of this Apostolic friends board and would like to make up my mind which way I want to go.Hey there FN....

Don't mean you spoil your fun here or your serious/honest searching if that's what it is but I just have to ask ....... you're going to make a decision which way to go - lib or con - based on what you read on a discussion forum?!!

Better you study the Scripture for yourself and pray and rely on the conviction and leading of the Holy Ghost and listen to your pastor. This would be a much better method of guiding how you're going to live out your walk with God than depending on what people here tell you. You'll get so many different opinions and perspectives -- it will leave your head spinning. ;) :)

FRINGE_NUTTER
05-05-2007, 06:17 PM
Hey there FN....

Don't mean you spoil your fun here or your serious/honest searching if that's what it is but I just have to ask ....... you're going to make a decision which way to go - lib or con - based on what you read on a discussion forum?!!

Better you study the Scripture for yourself and pray and rely on the conviction and leading of the Holy Ghost and listen to your pastor. This would be a much better method of guiding how you're going to live out your walk with God than depending on what people here tell you. You'll get so many different opinions and perspectives -- it will leave your head spinning. ;) :)

Sis. Felicity, I would not make my mind up solely from reading the posts of this forum. None the less, there is a wide variety of preachers and church members who post here. I want to see who can show me the most love and give me the best direction based upon the Holy Word of God. I am leaning slightly toward one group right now, but my choice is my choice and will not be revealed on this forum.

Old Paths
05-05-2007, 06:36 PM
Con = Elder Epley

Lib = TB










Hee heeeeeeeeeeee

J/K

Scott Hutchinson
05-05-2007, 07:06 PM
My advice is to seek God and be a Disciple of Jesus Christ and live a Christ-centered lifestyle study the word ,and base your life on that.Pray and read the word regularly.

Felicity
05-05-2007, 07:48 PM
Sis. Felicity, I would not make my mind up solely from reading the posts of this forum. None the less, there is a wide variety of preachers and church members who post here. I want to see who can show me the most love and give me the best direction based upon the Holy Word of God. I am leaning slightly toward one group right now, but my choice is my choice and will not be revealed on this forum.Well it's good & important to discover where one "fits" or rediscover where one fits.

I wish you the best in finding out what your personal niche is.

As far as not revealing your choice here .... well, like was said of Jesus of Nazareth ... your speech may betray you. :thumbsup

Felicity
05-05-2007, 07:49 PM
Con = Elder Epley

Lib = TB










Hee heeeeeeeeeeee

J/KModerate = TB ;)

rrford
05-05-2007, 07:51 PM
A con starts with culture and then finds scripture to justify it

A lib believes that scriptures should be viewed in cultural context and that you should not read things into the bible that are not there... in a strange way, libs should actually be the conservatives since they are the ones who do not want God's word to be added to.

Or one could say that a conservative is the one trying to conserve the principles taught in the Word of God and a liberal wants to legitimize thier lifestyle by trying to make the Word allow what it does not.


Simply put, you will never get cohesive definitions because everyone defines them from their perspective.

StillStanding
05-05-2007, 07:57 PM
I am the center. Anything left of me is liberal, and anything right of me is conservative! :)

Old Paths
05-05-2007, 08:12 PM
I am the center. Anything left of me is liberal, and anything right of me is conservative! :)



The bad thing about the middle of the road is you get hit coming and going.


:D

BoredOutOfMyMind
05-05-2007, 08:17 PM
Fringe_Nutter, Liberals are always a conservative.

No liberal except one comes right out and declares they are Liberal.

Conservatives always think everyone else is way more liberal than they are.

Currently Steve Epley is considered Liberal by Old Paths.

Richard Perry
05-05-2007, 08:17 PM
I am the center. Anything left of me is liberal, and anything right of me is conservative! :)
Sis; Come let us reason together....

In some ways all are conservative, and in some ways all are Liberal The lableing has done damage to the respect and kindness every one deserves, and is scriptual.

Oh! to be Liberal in grace, mercy, forgiveness, giving, loving,the reciprocal gospel is liberal to us if we're liberal to Him.

Oh! to be conservative in stewardship, careful, tenacious, mindful of others needs, making sure everything we do for God has our best and most conscientious oversight, attendance, teaching, bibles studies making sure His word is the word we share.

Oh! to be balanced...across the fulcrom of dedication we must balance judgment with mercy, law with grace, holding fast with freely giving...

In all thy searching search for BALANCE!!!

Felicity
05-05-2007, 08:44 PM
The bad thing about the middle of the road is you get hit coming and going.


:DNot on a ONE WAY street! :thumbsup

Old Paths
05-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Sis; Come let us reason together....

In some ways all are conservative, and in some ways all are Liberal The lableing has done damage to the respect and kindness every one deserves, and is scriptual.

Oh! to be Liberal in grace, mercy, forgiveness, giving, loving,the reciprocal gospel is liberal to us if we're liberal to Him.

Oh! to be conservative in stewardship, careful, tenacious, mindful of others needs, making sure everything we do for God has our best and most conscientious oversight, attendance, teaching, bibles studies making sure His word is the word we share.

Oh! to be balanced...across the fulcrom of dedication we must balance judgment with mercy, law with grace, holding fast with freely giving...

In all thy searching search for BALANCE!!!

PianoMAN


Hee heeeeeeeeee

Old Paths
05-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Not on a ONE WAY street! :thumbsup



Very GOOD.

I will remember that!

Thanks.

Felicity
05-05-2007, 08:45 PM
Very GOOD.

I will remember that!

Thanks.Okay, and if you use that line be sure and give proper credit, eh? :D

Old Paths
05-05-2007, 08:52 PM
Okay, and if you use that line be sure and give proper credit, eh? :D



AB SO LUTE LY!

Richard Perry
05-05-2007, 09:00 PM
PianoMAN


Hee heeeeeeeeee

A thousand pardans Sahib.....The origional post was from a female I thought, but your's depicted the fulcrum of the balance....you were the provocateur of the inspiration...She was the origiantor......I will offer many sacrifices in your name Sahib....I will tune your piano Sahib....Please forgive the unthinkable offence of questioning your obvious manhood.....

IAintMovin
05-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Answer to question:

BY, IAM

Con= anybody who has a higher outward standard than you.......

Lib= anybody who has a lower outward standard than you...........

rgcraig
05-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Answer to question:

BY, IAM

Con= anybody who has a higher outward standard than you.......

Lib= anybody who has a lower outward standard than you...........

Probably the most accurate description yet!!!!

rgcraig
05-05-2007, 09:57 PM
The bad thing about the middle of the road is you get hit coming and going.


:D

I don't think so.....the middle of the road watches both sides go by without being hit.

Newman
05-05-2007, 10:34 PM
A con starts with culture and then finds scripture to justify it

A lib believes that scriptures should be viewed in cultural context and that you should not read things into the bible that are not there... in a strange way, libs should actually be the conservatives since they are the ones who do not want God's word to be added to.

I have always thought this too! :thumbsup

The Mrs
05-05-2007, 10:36 PM
I'd still like to know what a 'fringe_nutter' is... :icecream

A nut on the fringe???

Peanut butter on the fridge???

:dunno

NLYP
05-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Answer to question:

BY, IAM

Con= anybody who has a higher outward standard than you.......

Lib= anybody who has a lower outward standard than you...........

AHHH Yes..Renfro Brilliance!

StillStanding
05-06-2007, 08:08 AM
A thousand pardans Sahib.....The origional post was from a female I thought, but your's depicted the fulcrum of the balance....you were the provocateur of the inspiration...She was the origiantor......I will offer many sacrifices in your name Sahib....I will tune your piano Sahib....Please forgive the unthinkable offence of questioning your obvious manhood.....
RP, No Problem! :)

Now I'll have to prove my manhood by defeating you in a liberal game of golf! :)

Hoovie
05-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Hey Frinut, welcome, to the wise world of moderate Pentecostalism.

We reject:

"Word of Faith"
"Spastic-ism"
"Manipulation"
"Slaughter House Theology"
"Weirdness"
"Trinitarianism"
"Radical Modalism"
"Magic Baptisms"
"Worship Frenzies"
"Flippin Out"
"Judgementalism"
"Salvific Standards"
"Licentiousness Living"
"Mystical Messages"
"Out of Body Esapades"
"Special Coded Revelations"
"TBN Temptations"

This is blessed place to be. Mostly Moderate, Liberal in Love, Cautiously Conservative.

Welcome.


More later...

berkeley
05-06-2007, 01:37 PM
I am sooo considering returning to the Ultra-Con side of the spectrum!!!

Hoovie
05-06-2007, 01:39 PM
I am sooo considering returning to the Ultra-Con side of the spectrum!!!

May the Force be with you.

berkeley
05-06-2007, 01:59 PM
May the Force be with you.I wasn't self-righteous and I didn't pass judgment on people. I was the compassionate ultra conservative!! lol
Really, I would explain "..I see it this way... you don't have to.. this is my conviction.."

Hoovie
05-06-2007, 02:15 PM
I wasn't self-righteous and I didn't pass judgment on people. I was the compassionate ultra conservative!! lol
Really, I would explain "..I see it this way... you don't have to.. this is my conviction.."

:) when you finally get there you will find you have become a moderate!:ursofunny

berkeley
05-06-2007, 02:18 PM
:) when you finally get there you will find you have become a moderate!:ursofunny
what???

berkeley
05-06-2007, 05:22 PM
After lurking here for several days, I decided to choose a nicname and make a few posts. I am serious about this thread. I would like to know what defines "conservative" or "liberal" in the minds of the people on this forum.



Let such an one think this, that, such as we are in word by letters when we are absent, such will we be also in deed when we are present.

For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.

Arphaxad
05-06-2007, 05:24 PM
I don't know what I am anymore, I got thrown out of the con club for allowing wedding rings, and rejected by the libs for the pants issue.

O, woe is me, for I am undone.

ARPH :doggyrun

berkeley
05-06-2007, 05:27 PM
I don't know what I am anymore, I got thrown out of the con club for allowing wedding rings, and rejected by the libs for the pants issue.

O, woe is me, for I am undone.

ARPH :doggyrun
At one time I quit wearing a watch, I quit partaking of holidays, I was against slits in skirts, anti-denim on women, thought there should be a rule against going to the beach, :heeheehee

Felicity
05-06-2007, 05:27 PM
Answer to question:

BY, IAM

Con= anybody who has a higher outward standard than you.......

Lib= anybody who has a lower outward standard than you...........That's pretty much the definition I've used in times past too. LOL.

But actually the moderate position is the one that determine what's left and what's right. ;) :)

Michlow
05-07-2007, 08:30 AM
Fringe_Nutter, Liberals are always a conservative.

No liberal except one comes right out and declares they are Liberal.

Conservatives always think everyone else is way more liberal than they are.

Currently Steve Epley is considered Liberal by Old Paths.

Oops, better make that two.

Hello, My name is Michlow. And I'm a liberal :nod

originalsecretplace
05-07-2007, 09:16 AM
After lurking here for several days, I decided to choose a nicname and make a few posts. I am serious about this thread. I would like to know what defines "conservative" or "liberal" in the minds of the people on this forum.

I am somewhat of a fringe_nutter now to some here and to others I would be considered very liberal. This is strictly an educational thread for me and maybe other newbies to the Apostolic realm.

Thanks in advance. In 20 sentences or less define a conservative. In 20 sentences or less define a liberal.

After the serious part with the 20 sentences or less, then you can make the facetious comments.

I am new to all of this Apostolic friends board and would like to make up my mind which way I want to go.


A conservative is a man whose wife doesn't wear makeup, doesn't cut her hair, doesn't wear jewelry and doesn't wear pants.

A liberal is a man whose wife wears does makeup, does cuts her hair, does wears jewelry and does wear pants.

A moderate is a man whose wife does any combination of the above but not all of them.

:killinme :killinme

The Mrs
05-07-2007, 09:19 AM
A conservative is a man whose wife doesn't wear makeup, cut her hair, wear jewelry and doesn't wear pants.

A liberal is a man whose wife wears makeup, cuts her hair, wears jewelry and does wear pants.

A moderate is a man whose wife does any combination of the above but not all of them.

:killinme :killinme



:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

'Bout sums it up, eh???

Old Paths
05-07-2007, 10:03 AM
FRINGE_NUTTER WANTS TO KNOW - What is a Con and a Lib?



A con is RIGHT.

A lib is WRONG.


:haloplug

Consapostolic1
05-07-2007, 10:27 AM
Dress
Liberals
The women engage in the wearing of jewelry, pants and make up, cut their hair.
They play in sports go to night clubs parties and do just about everything the world does.

Moderates
The women wear skirts may have trimmed hair wear concealer, wear wedding rings.
Some play sports. Guys keep their hair short and occasionally wear shorts. Cap sleeves. Allow TV’s. Willing to fellowship almost any except libs.

Conservatives
The women wear skirts usually at least 2 inches below the knees with no splits in them with hosiery. The women neither cut nor dye the hair. Married women generally keep their hair pinned up especially preacher’s wives. No low neck lines. Men keep hair short in conservative styles, not to spiky. Sleeves are worn below the elbow. Don’t not play in organized sports. Preach against tv’s. 6 inch rule applies (boys and girls keep at least six inches between them until they are married). Fellowships with other conservatives.

Ultra Con
Everything from the conservatives applies plus some additions. The skirts are worn to the ankles. No curls, Pentecostal bumps or fancy hairdos. No bright colors. Sleeves are worn to the wrist. No logos on the shirts. Button-up shirts must be tucked in. No shiny shoes. Generally fellowships within their local church only.

Characteristics of one group may be observed by another in some circumstances.

nathan_slatter
05-07-2007, 11:47 AM
Oops, better make that two.

Hello, My name is Michlow. And I'm a liberal :nod

Make that 3 or maybe 4, could be 5 -- I'm liberal enough for several people.... :killinme

StillStanding
05-07-2007, 11:57 AM
Dress
Liberals
The women engage in the wearing of jewelry, pants and make up, cut their hair.
They play in sports go to night clubs parties and do just about everything the world does.


I'm a liberal (on this forum anyways!) but I DON'T go to night clubs. I do go to birthday parties. I don't do drugs, live in adultry, and other things associated with sinful living.

Michlow
05-07-2007, 12:32 PM
Make that 3 or maybe 4, could be 5 -- I'm liberal enough for several people.... :killinme

:D