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The Senator
03-17-2011, 09:27 AM
Apostolic Church of Pentecost

full wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Church_of_Pentecost)

The Apostolic Church of Pentecost (ACOP) is a Pentecostal Christian denomination with origins in the Pentecostal revival of the early 20th century. Although multi-national, ACOP has its strongest membership in Canada. In 2002 ACOP reported “approximately 24,000 members in Canada, with 450 ministers and 153 churches.”[5][6] There are ACOP churches in all the provinces of Canada.[7] ACOP’s headquarters is in Calgary, Alberta.

Historical Precursors (1906-1920)

Like many Pentecostal denominations, the ACOP originates from the exponential growth of the modern Pentecostal movement of the early 20th century[19] from the Azusa street revival in Los Angeles. As the early Pentecostalism movement rapidly expanded into Canada, there was an attempt in 1909 to organize Canadian Pentecostals, but it was unsuccessful since most early Pentecostals resisted formalized organization.[20] However, in 1918 a decision was made to form the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada (PAOC), and a dominion charter was granted on May 17, 1919.

The PAOC organization held to three distinctive beliefs: to William Durham's Finished Work of Calvary doctrine, to the Oneness doctrine of the Godhead, and to water baptism in Jesus' Name.[21] However, due to doctrinal diversity on these issues, the early unity of the PAOC did not last long. Shortly after the charter was granted, a group of ministers and churches withdrew their support because of doctrinal disagreement, especially over the oneness doctrine and baptism in Jesus' name. This group aligned itself instead with the US organization, the Assemblies of God. By 1920, the PAOC itself merged with the AOG, shifting its theological stance toward a more Trinitarian viewpoint.[22]

Origins of ACOP (1920-1950)

Not everyone was pleased with the shift away from the Oneness perspective on the Godhead. On 1 January 1920, Rev. Frank Small, a member of PAOC wrote a letter to his organization stating “if you feel that I am unworthy of your further fellowship owing to my doctrinal stand, I shall leave my further fellowship to your judgment as to whether I am recognized as one of you” (the doctrinal differences are later clarified in Small’s private correspondence as his belief in the finished work and the oneness doctrine).[23] This letter was not recognized in any formal capacity by the PAOC, but Frank Small’s name was removed from the next PAOC ministerial list.[24]

As a result of these things, Small founded a new Pentecostal denomination, called the Apostolic Church of Pentecost, which was granted Dominion charter on 25 October 1921.[25] “With the doctrinal break in fellowship, he founded an organization that for many years endured as the only native Canadian Oneness organization.”[26] Small was a charismatic leader and believed strongly that organization should never take precedence over God’s revealed word in Scripture or the progressive truth revealed by the Holy Spirit.[27] A big part of Small’s focus was a belief that “God was bypassing the ‘old denominations’ and restoring the pure apostolic truth and practice to the church in the last days before the return of Christ.”[28]

One of the most important truths that was being revealed was the doctrine of the oneness of the Godhead. He published a paper called Living Waters[29] in which he said that the Trinitarians had given Christ an “inferiority complex in the eyes of the world” by “separating Christ from his fatherhood.”[30] He also claimed that “Any teaching that minimizes the Lord Jesus Christ to second place in the Godhead in authority or power, is to be laid at the door of the enemy.”[31]

The first ACOP conference took place in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1921, where Frank Small was elected the first moderator.[32] Early in its history, the ACOP focused on three main things: missions work, a small publication called Living Waters (produced by Small), and the need for Bible training.[33] During its early years, ACOP saw tremendous growth, including: “new churches planted, missionaries thrust out into the work of God, Bible Schools established, denominational material published and Camp ministries started.”[34]

Stephanas
03-18-2011, 05:51 AM
So?

Who cares?

The Canadian Assemblies of God is probably bigger than both the Apostolics and the Pentecostals.

And the Catholic church is undoubtedly bigger than all three.

What difference does it really make if socialists go to church if they're still socialists when they come out?

TopDog
03-18-2011, 10:02 AM
So?

What difference does it really make if socialists go to church if they're still socialists when they come out?

?????
I can only assume this is another comment from a single-digit IQ, right-wing republican, American. Don't worry - we love you even if you're not very smart. :happydance

Stephanas
03-18-2011, 12:44 PM
?????
I can only assume this is another comment from a single-digit IQ, right-wing republican, American. Don't worry - we love you even if you're not very smart. :happydance

You hand over half your pay check to pay for the chance to wait in line to see a doctor who wasn't good enough to get a job in the USA, and I'm not very smart?

TopDog
03-18-2011, 11:58 PM
You hand over half your pay check to pay for the chance to wait in line to see a doctor who wasn't good enough to get a job in the USA, and I'm not very smart?

Thanks for proving my point - typical dumb, blanket, uninformed comment. Wonder if Jesus would say it - oh I forgot - he wouldn't be a right wing-nut so you wouldn't follow him if he were walking the earth today..... :thumbsup

It is sort of fun reading these types of uninformed but self-righteous posts though....thankfully not all of your country-men are as obnoxious as you. Or are you just joking......hmmmm....could be but I don't think so. :heeheehee

jfrog
03-19-2011, 01:05 PM
LOL!

Stupid Canadian! At least us Americans don't send our old parents out to die in the cold north when they are too old!!!!!!!!! ;) jkjk

CC1
07-13-2011, 07:24 AM
The Senator, do you have personal knowledge of the current status of ACOP in Canada or just found this interesting info on Wikki?

I am asking because I have a question if you are familiar with the group. Do they still hold to the Oneness doctrine? I know they are one steppers but wasn't sure about the Oneness question.

I believe a Canadian former member of this forum left the UPC, joined ACOP, then left and went back to the UPC.

Dagwood
07-13-2011, 07:34 AM
I can only hope the camparison reveals as many souls, if not more, have been saved. Is the focus really on how big the org is? IMO, this is a pointless thread worthy of absolutely no further discussion. The title set the tone, a negative one at that...

CC1
07-13-2011, 07:58 AM
I can only hope the camparison reveals as many souls, if not more, have been saved. Is the focus really on how big the org is? IMO, this is a pointless thread worthy of absolutely no further discussion. The title set the tone, a negative one at that...

Goodness. I thought I had asked a logical question that was worthy of an answer. Sorry you don't approve. I agree the premise of this thread was odd but I was trying to turn in into a meaningful discussion.

scotty
07-13-2011, 08:34 AM
I found this on their website :

We believe in:


1. That the Bible is the inspired, infallible, authoritative written Word of God.
2. In the eternal existence of one true God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
3. In the Savior of men, the Lord Jesus Christ, conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary, very God and very man.
4. In the creation, test and fall of man, as recorded in Genesis; his total spiritual
depravity and inability to attain to divine righteousness.
5. That forgiveness of sin and eternal life is freely offered to all by our Lord
Jesus Christ. Salvation of sinners is by grace through faith alone, in the
perfect all sufficient work of Christ, who died for our sins, was buried and
rose again the third day for our justification.
6. In Water Baptism of believers by immersion in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
7. In the Baptism with the Holy Spirit as an experience subsequent to salvation
with the scriptural evidence; namely, speaking in tongues.

http://www.acop.ca/AboutUs/faith_statement.asp

scotty
07-13-2011, 08:35 AM
They're not Gah.

14. In the sanctity of marriage, as a life long exclusive commitment between one
man and one woman.

Dagwood
07-13-2011, 09:02 AM
Goodness. I thought I had asked a logical question that was worthy of an answer. Sorry you don't approve. I agree the premise of this thread was odd but I was trying to turn in into a meaningful discussion.

No, no, CC1. Nothing against your efforts, which I do appreciate. It was just something that struck me odd when I first glanced at the thread...:thumbsup

NorCal
07-13-2011, 10:34 AM
Apostolic Church of Pentecost

full wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Church_of_Pentecost)

The Apostolic Church of Pentecost (ACOP) is a Pentecostal Christian denomination with origins in the Pentecostal revival of the early 20th century. Although multi-national, ACOP has its strongest membership in Canada. In 2002 ACOP reported “approximately 24,000 members in Canada, with 450 ministers and 153 churches.”[5][6] There are ACOP churches in all the provinces of Canada.[7] ACOP’s headquarters is in Calgary, Alberta.
[34]

UPCI Statistics
4,358 churches in 2007 (which includes 4099 autonomous and 258 daughter works).[15] The UPCI in North America has 9,085 ministers and reports a Sunday school attendance of around 650,000. The UPCI has a presence in 175 other nations with 22,881 licensed ministers, 28,351 churches and meeting places, 652 missionaries, and a foreign membership of over 3 million. Total worldwide membership, including North America, is listed at 4,036,945.

mfblume
08-29-2011, 08:49 AM
So?

Who cares?

The Canadian Assemblies of God is probably bigger than both the Apostolics and the Pentecostals.

And the Catholic church is undoubtedly bigger than all three.

What difference does it really make if socialists go to church if they're still socialists when they come out?

We have socialized health care. Our major utilities tend to be Crown Corporations but we are not Socialist.

Capitalism is alive and well here, just with a few restraints. Don't believe all the propaganda you hear.

Socialism is government ownership of industry. Canada hardly fits that description.

It's what's called a mixed economy. Certain things (socialized healthcare, for an obvious example) fit that description. But capitalism - private ownership of industry - is the norm.

Mixed economy... Capitalism has major flaws. Socialism has major flaws. Canada and much of Europe have tried a sort of mix and match approach. And over many years it's proven to be quite effective.

FlamingZword
09-03-2011, 11:16 PM
Hey they sound like my kind of folk, I don't care if they are Canadian.

www.one-lord.org

HolyFire
06-11-2012, 04:43 PM
We have socialized health care. Our major utilities tend to be Crown Corporations but we are not Socialist.

Capitalism is alive and well here, just with a few restraints. Don't believe all the propaganda you hear.

Socialism is government ownership of industry. Canada hardly fits that description.

It's what's called a mixed economy. Certain things (socialized healthcare, for an obvious example) fit that description. But capitalism - private ownership of industry - is the norm.

Mixed economy... Capitalism has major flaws. Socialism has major flaws. Canada and much of Europe have tried a sort of mix and match approach. And over many years it's proven to be quite effective.

And easily Canada has better political leadership .