Question About God

[Dedicated Mind]

John 1 says that Jesus is the light that lighteth every man. Psalms 139 describes an omnipreset God. Acts says, "in Him we live, move and have our being." Is God the spirit of life in plants, animals and humans or is God separate from nature?

[NorCal]

That is Pantheism. God is the source of all life, but you do not find God in nature. Nature will point to the existence of God, but is not God.

[Praxeas]

John 1 says that Jesus is the light that lighteth every man. Psalms 139 describes an omnipreset God. Acts says, "in Him we live, move and have our being." Is God the spirit of life in plants, animals and humans or is God separate from nature?
Plants are biological machines only. Humans are spiritual/biological creatures

God gives us Life, which is distinct creation from creating plants. He created, in other words, our spiritual nature

[Dedicated Mind]

Plants are biological machines only. Humans are spiritual/biological creatures

God gives us Life, which is distinct creation from creating plants. He created, in other words, our spiritual nature

so do you believe that God lives in every human being? how else is he aware of our thoughts?

[Dedicated Mind]

That is Pantheism. God is the source of all life, but you do not find God in nature. Nature will point to the existence of God, but is not God.

how do you explain His omnipresence? is He not present in nature? what is the source of life for animals?

[acerrak]

how do you explain His omnipresence? is He not present in nature? what is the source of life for animals?

Nature is a witness, that testifies of God, as does all creation.

I see what your stating, God is everywhere, but God is not everything.

[Praxeas]

so do you believe that God lives in every human being? how else is he aware of our thoughts?
Im not sure what you mean by live, but yeah I believe he knows our thoughts. Why does God have to live inside our bodies to know our thoughts? I don't have to be standing an inch from your mouth to hear you talking on the phone

[Praxeas]

how do you explain His omnipresence? is He not present in nature? what is the source of life for animals?

He can be in every location and not be inside every tomato

[mfblume]

God's omnipresence does not mean he is the LIFE of everything. He dwells everywhere, and LIFE FIRST came to exist by Him. But I think He created life to self-perpetuate. He can be in something but not causing it to exist. I believe He started life and gave it ability to carry on without Himself naturally after that.

[scotty]

Plants are biological machines only. Humans are spiritual/biological creatures

God gives us Life, which is distinct creation from creating plants. He created, in other words, our spiritual nature

I agree here. God only "breathed life" into one creation, man.

[Dedicated Mind]

Im not sure what you mean by live, but yeah I believe he knows our thoughts. Why does God have to live inside our bodies to know our thoughts? I don't have to be standing an inch from your mouth to hear you talking on the phone

I mean by live, there is a verse that says, by him all things subsist. Does the breath of life in man mean that God is present in every man and is the spirit of every man? john 1 says he lighteth every man.

[Truth Files]

Response to the OP

This is a cut from my website:

Genesis
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Revelation
1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter.

These are beliefs I hold and suggest for consideration which may be helpful to the reader in understanding the Lord's Word and His complete and unique existence apart from His creation.

The Bible is the final authority on all truths that the Lord has revealed to us and must be adhered to for evaluating any related extended perceptions and thoughts.

Humans live in a material universe as spiritual beings confined to physical bodies and there are many questions one has about who we are, why we exist, and what happens to us when we experience physical death.

The Bible answers all of these with some degree of limitation imposed by the Lord and by our own lack of attention, focus, and determination applied to the study of His Word.

We are also limited to the extent of our capacity for perceiving all of the mysteries and complexities of His creation(s) in our present state of physical existence.

His opening statement to us is that in the beginning He created the heavens (universe) which include the earth and other celestial bodies. [Genesis 1:1]

He can create substance, matter, and life forms out of nothing and He fashions His desired creations and objectives from these things.

He also reconditions and adjusts any of His creative results at will, and He can also eliminate, remove, or destroy the same. [Genesis 1:2; 2Peter 3:10; Revelation 21]

He is an infinite spirit being who has always existed and will continue to exist into the infinite future. [John 1:1-3; Revelation 1:8]

He is not dependent upon and is not subject to any part of His creation including life forms, powers, principalities, or the material universe that He creates.

He is uniquely self-sufficient and needs nothing outside of Himself. He is the Alpha [beginning] and the Omega [end] of all things. His existence is timeless.

He has definite eternal plans and designs for His creation(s), is all-knowing [total perfect knowledge], is omnipresent [everywhere all of the time], and is pre-cognizant [knows all that will happen in advance].

He is all-powerful, totally trustworthy, possesses great care and concern for all that He creates, and He always ultimately succeeds in everything He sets out to accomplish.

He can manifest Himself as multiple life forms [spiritual and/or physical] simultaneously which can exist separate from Himself and still remain a part of Himself. [John 1:1-14]

Jesus has existed from the beginning, all things were created by Him and through Him, and He is the only begotten Son of God who is uniquely both God and human. He is an extension of God and is described as the Word of God.

He became the "Son of Man" [a human being] and lived among humans. He manifested in a physical body so that He could be seen and experienced by human beings. [John 1:14]

There was a time when the angelic realm expressed joy over the perfect creation that the Lord had provided. The Lord created these in the beginning of whom some were called sons of God. [Job 38:1-7]

Satan was among this distinguished group and possibly the leading angel who was set to rule over vast portions of the universe. [Job 2:1-2; Isaiah 14:12; Ezekiel 28:1-18]

His pride motivated Him to rebel against the Lord, to become like Him, equal with Him .... to replace Him as ruler of the universe.

One third of the Lord's created angels joined satan's rebellion and he is their god. This act of intransigence was allowed by the Lord for at least two significant reasons. [Revelation 12:3-4]

The first is that He apparently does not impose His will against the will of His created beings, but prefers that a dependent relationship be voluntary on their part.

The other reason relates to the interplay allowed between satan and his followers, and human beings. [Revelation 12:12]

The fallen angels still exist today and humans are subjected to their influence to some degree. This interplay will increase at the time of the end.

The Lord's ultimate plan for humans is a perfect eternal life along with the recognized and accepted requirement for His presence, His providence, and His position as the only true God of all the He has created. [Revelation 7:9-17; 21:1-7]

The human will has an apparent need for testing to insure that believing and trusting in Him in and for all things without condition is not breached. [Genesis 3:1-15]

The primary example of the bottom line test is that the human must believe that He will save them for eternity prior to the actual experience without proof.

This leads to the next fact of the relationship and it is that we cannot continue to exist without this connection.

Without it we are lost and are destined to a finite existence with no hope beyond a short and trouble filled life.