latex or oil?

[Truthseeker]

Real spiritual question here, which is best for outdoor house paint? Latex or paint? what should I look for in good quality paint?

Thanks.

For the record it won't be to paint UPC church so no bashing. :heeheehee:happydance:laffatu:thumbsup:spit

[berkeley]

not what i was expecting

[NotforSale]

Real spiritual question here, which is best for outdoor house paint? Latex or paint? what should I look for in good quality paint?

Thanks.

For the record it won't be to paint UPC church so no bashing. :heeheehee:happydance:laffatu:thumbsup:spit

Oil based paints have their place, but for the most part, a Latex will work just fine.

Working with Oil based paints is also a PAIN (clean up, odor, dry time). Today's Latex paints are very durable, and, they dry fast and clean up is done with warm water.

What's the application?

BTW, I used to work in the paint department of a hardware store.

[Truthseeker]

Oil based paints have their place, but for the most part, a Latex will work just fine.

Working with Oil based paints is also a PAIN (clean up, odor, dry time). Today's Latex paints are very durable, and, they dry fast and clean up is done with warm water.

What's the application?

BTW, I used to work in the paint department of a hardware store.

It's going to be for exterior of our house. Gonna check into spray gun.

[NotforSale]

It's going to be for exterior of our house. Gonna check into spray gun.

Is your surface a typical wood siding? If so, I would go Latex, all the way. Behr makes an excellent paint. Another good product is Super Paint, by Sherwin Williams.

[Truthseeker]

Is your surface a typical wood siding? If so, I would go Latex, all the way. Behr makes an excellent paint. Another good product is Super Paint, by Sherwin Williams.

the wood is kinda rough with grooves, for decor effect.

[NotforSale]

the wood is kinda rough with grooves, for decor effect.

Is the wood bare, or are you painting over an existing paint? Here's another important question; is the wood Cedar?

[canam]

if you use latex go with an acrylic ,i think that is a little tougher ,oil does last longer.slower to dry since it dries inside out.

[Truthseeker]

Is the wood bare, or are you painting over an existing paint? Here's another important question; is the wood Cedar?

over existing paint, I take it I don't have to prime? I don't think it's cedar.

[NotforSale]

over existing paint, I take it I don't have to prime? I don't think it's cedar.

I would find out. If it is Cedar, there may be a good chance that you have an Oil Based product already on your place. Cedar is a very oily wood, and without a good seal, the oil will bleed through a latex product for a terrible affect.

Usually, if the house has a Cedar siding, a stain is used instead of a paint.

[Truthseeker]

I would find out. If it is Cedar, there may be a good chance that you have an Oil Based product already on your place. Cedar is a very oily wood, and without a good seal, the oil will bleed through a latex product for a terrible affect.

Usually, if the house has a Cedar siding, a stain is used instead of a paint.

how would I tell if cedar? I'm a rookie. I have done some small areas with latex and no problem yet.

[Truthseeker]

You can paint over oil with latex??

[Ferd]

Im no expert but knowing what kind of paint you are painting over is important information.

I would figure that out first and talk to a paint expert at the local paint supply store.

As has already been pointed out, knowing if the wood is cedar is important too.

[NotforSale]

You can paint over oil with latex??

Yes, you can paint a latex over an oil, just not the other way around. If the surface is an oil product, make sure to prepare the surface well. A good paint store will help you with the details.

If you have tested part of the surface with a latex, with no sign of "Bleeding", you probably will be fine. You could also find a way to sheer off a small piece of your siding, taking it to your paint vendor to analyze.

[canam]

over existing paint, I take it I don't have to prime? I don't think it's cedar.

alway prime when you paint

[Austin]

over existing paint, I take it I don't have to prime? I don't think it's cedar.

Hey, I went to school to be a painter and done it for many years. There are some great paints today that bond very well but the problem is you must have the right application on the proper base. The best thing to do if you have a nice home and want it to stay on for years is to contact an experience painter and have him look at it and give you some first hand advice.
Latex is nice with a primer on good smooth wood that has not been painted with an oil base or varnish base substance. On old wood that is dry and beginning to deteriorate, well, nothing is going to stay on that for very long, it will be an on going paint project.
A good rule, always prime wood before applying a finish coat, don't believe whats on the can or pale.

[commonsense]

Oil based paints have their place, but for the most part, a Latex will work just fine.

Working with Oil based paints is also a PAIN (clean up, odor, dry time). Today's Latex paints are very durable, and, they dry fast and clean up is done with warm water.

What's the application?

BTW, I used to work in the paint department of a hardware store.

Good advice...at my current job I'm cross trained for the paint dept.



For most applications using latex paint is fine, but if the wood is old or neglected I still would favor oil. Just for the record, it's becoming more of a challenge to even find oil paint.

Generally we Americans want easy clean up :heeheehee. And since VOC's are often associated with paint purchases, latex wins:thumbsup

[commonsense]

Priming?
You will always have better results if you prime first!

BUT......if the surface is clean and in good condition it may be possible to skip this step.

[Hoovie]

Preparation is key. All loose or partially loose paint should be removed, and all smooth glossy surfaces sanded a bit for better adherence.

Many Pro companies recommend oil primer and latex top coat if most of the wood is bare.

[Truthseeker]

Thanks for all the great input. This my first go around with painting a whole house outside. I did the alcohol test with a swab from work and paint came off so according to all my reading that means paint is latex.

That leads me to believe do Still need to prime? There are some areas where paint is chipping off.

Anyone use SW duration paint? suppose to be one coat primer/paint combo?

Any thoughts on valspar 100%acrylitc?

Thanks

[pelathais]

Mud wattle or adobe with straw needs no paint.

[freeatlast]

I operate a small property maintenance business and have done quite a bit of painting. i lean heavily on latex paints. I use a lot of Sherwin Williams Super Paint with good results.
SW also makes a paint called Duration. Super is @35 a gal and Duration @ 45.00 a gal.

Prep is key to any good paint job. Remove all loose/ flaking paint and prime with SW A100 oil primer if your state allows oil paints. To get lasting results you should apply 2 coats of your topcoat.
The Duration product claims it needs no priming and only one coat.
Sherwin Williams is very good about advising you in your job. They should be able to help you.

[Truthseeker]

I think I've narrowed it down to BM moorglo, SW superpaint, or Valspar duramax. Any thoughts?

[coadie]

Oil based paints release volatile organic compounds and are "sin" against the environment.

[canam]

rofl

[commonsense]

I think I've narrowed it down to BM moorglo, SW superpaint, or Valspar duramax. Any thoughts?

My husband liked Valspar Duramax for all of our trim.

[coadie]

The "illegals" that painted our house used Sherwin Willliams 4 weeks ago.

[canam]

My husband liked Valspar Duramax for all of our trim.

i would do a consumer reports search ,i think BM is one of the top ones not even sure SW shows up, although i do like their paint