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deacon blues
10-12-2011, 09:30 AM
Why is it that we never hear "The Holy Ghost came down in a mighty way in the service and there were people intoxicated on meekness. I mean there was such spirit of humility that filled the room."? You never hear someone say, "The Holy Ghost moved on me and I was immersed in love and patience and self-control." No, instead we only have the accounts of the "power of the HG" being goosebumps, chills, burning sensations, people being "slain", falling out, uncontrollable twitches and convulsions, staggering, folks acting as though they are drunk, shaking, quaking, screaming, running, rolling, etc.
In Acts 2 some said that those who spoke in tongues were drunk, but we only have tongues being the only thing recorded that the scoffers witnessed to say such. We have no biblical evidence of the early church staggering or acting like folks who are intoxicated with alcohol. Why just stop at staggering or passing out? Why aren't we seeing people getting in fistfights or throwing up as a result of being "drunk"? That's what intoxicated folks do.
I'm not intending to be disrespectful or to be a doubter. I am simply asking questions about some things that are engrained into Pentecostal culture that are accepted as normal or biblical. I wonder if this is truly what Jesus meant by "power" when He spoke in Acts 1:8 or did He mean something more and far better than sensational feelings and emotionalism?
mizpeh
10-12-2011, 09:35 AM
Acts 1:8? Jesus related the power of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and evangelism and we see in the book of ACTS OF THE APOSTLES the power demonstrated when the gospel of Christ is preached.
I think we are also given power to overcome the world; the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life, but I don't think that is what is being spoken of in Acts 1:8.
deltaguitar
10-12-2011, 09:46 AM
Why is it that we never hear "The Holy Ghost came down in a mighty way in the service and there were people intoxicated on meekness. I mean there was such spirit of humility that filled the room."? You never hear someone say, "The Holy Ghost moved on me and I was immersed in love and patience and self-control." No, instead we only have the accounts of the "power of the HG" being goosebumps, chills, burning sensations, people being "slain", falling out, uncontrollable twitches and convulsions, staggering, folks acting as though they are drunk, shaking, quaking, screaming, running, rolling, etc.
In Acts 2 some said that those who spoke in tongues were drunk, but we only have tongues being the only thing recorded that the scoffers witnessed to say such. We have no biblical evidence of the early church staggering or acting like folks who are intoxicated with alcohol. Why just stop at staggering or passing out? Why aren't we seeing people getting in fistfights or throwing up as a result of being "drunk"? That's what intoxicated folks do.
I'm not intending to be disrespectful or to be a doubter. I am simply asking questions about some things that are engrained into Pentecostal culture that are accepted as normal or biblical. I wonder if this is truly what Jesus meant by "power" when He spoke in Acts 1:8 or did He mean something more and far better than sensational feelings and emotionalism?
Good question.
This also makes me wonder why so many pentecostal preachers today seem to be arrogant and have a high and mighty attitude? They have the awesome suit and the hair and the preacher voice.
Sure, many of these guys are good men who are fun to be around but are they humble and meek and loving like Christ?
I have heard testimonies from pastors at the church I attend and they speak of God humbling them or God dealing with their sin and weaknesses. Why did I never hear a message about God dealing with a pastor's heart and convicting him of his unless they got caught?
The lead pastor at my church was diagnosed with brain cancer and he talks about how it is such a gift from God because God is keeping him and his attitude in check.
scotty
10-12-2011, 09:57 AM
I have experienced many services that the Holy Ghost has moved in a powerful way and left everyone on their knees and in tears. As a matter of fact they seem to be that way alot more often as of late.
Michael The Disciple
10-12-2011, 01:19 PM
People have rarely if ever been taught that MEEKNESS is something good. A fruit of the Spirit. Almost every time I have heard Preachers mention it they say "well that does not mean God wants you to be a doormat". Or they say meekness really means "strength" anything to get us away from the idea that meekness is being gentle.
scotty
10-12-2011, 02:20 PM
I heard it taught: Do all I can do to lead people to Jesus, even if it means they have to step on me to get there.
houston
10-12-2011, 02:38 PM
I heard it taught: Do all I can do to lead people to Jesus, even if it means they have to step on me to get there.
Amen
Michael The Disciple
10-12-2011, 03:54 PM
I heard it taught: Do all I can do to lead people to Jesus, even if it means they have to step on me to get there.
Please explain.
scotty
10-18-2011, 09:18 AM
Please explain.
Sure, an example from just last week.
Our church held a Friends and Family Day where we push to invite people to service followed by a fish fry and fellowship. One of the people I invited was a co-worker, as time got closer he said he couldn't make it because our company scheduled him to work that sunday. Since his wife and girls knows my wife and girls I figured there was no real reason for me to be there for him so I volunteered to work his Sunday shift so they could go to our service.
Charnock
10-18-2011, 09:44 AM
Why is it that we never hear "The Holy Ghost came down in a mighty way in the service and there were people intoxicated on meekness. I mean there was such spirit of humility that filled the room."? You never hear someone say, "The Holy Ghost moved on me and I was immersed in love and patience and self-control." No, instead we only have the accounts of the "power of the HG" being goosebumps, chills, burning sensations, people being "slain", falling out, uncontrollable twitches and convulsions, staggering, folks acting as though they are drunk, shaking, quaking, screaming, running, rolling, etc.
In Acts 2 some said that those who spoke in tongues were drunk, but we only have tongues being the only thing recorded that the scoffers witnessed to say such. We have no biblical evidence of the early church staggering or acting like folks who are intoxicated with alcohol. Why just stop at staggering or passing out? Why aren't we seeing people getting in fistfights or throwing up as a result of being "drunk"? That's what intoxicated folks do.
I'm not intending to be disrespectful or to be a doubter. I am simply asking questions about some things that are engrained into Pentecostal culture that are accepted as normal or biblical. I wonder if this is truly what Jesus meant by "power" when He spoke in Acts 1:8 or did He mean something more and far better than sensational feelings and emotionalism?
The unfortunate thing is that this type of experience is the goal of many Apostolics. The focus shouldn't be the power of baptism of the Holy Ghost, it should be the God who baptizes.
Simon the sorcerer only wanted power without the God who gave the power. The disciples rebuked him.
Jason B
10-18-2011, 10:41 PM
Why is it that we never hear "The Holy Ghost came down in a mighty way in the service and there were people intoxicated on meekness. I mean there was such spirit of humility that filled the room."? You never hear someone say, "The Holy Ghost moved on me and I was immersed in love and patience and self-control." No, instead we only have the accounts of the "power of the HG" being goosebumps, chills, burning sensations, people being "slain", falling out, uncontrollable twitches and convulsions, staggering, folks acting as though they are drunk, shaking, quaking, screaming, running, rolling, etc.
Spot on Deacon
Hoovie
10-18-2011, 11:37 PM
Yes. I read this to my wife Deacon. Good stuff!
scotty
10-19-2011, 08:36 AM
I have experienced many services that the Holy Ghost has moved in a powerful way and left everyone on their knees and in tears. As a matter of fact they seem to be that way alot more often as of late.
Hmmm, guess this only happens in my church. :bigbaby
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