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unitedpraise10
10-12-2011, 03:05 PM
As of yesterday, the vote was passed at GC11. Gateway College of Evangelism has been aquired by the UPCI and will cease to exist after this school year is up. The new school will open in fall 2011. Also, the name will change. It will be ??? University. This school will be the first ever UPCI University, and the first out of all the UPCI bible college's to obtain accreditation. Get ready to see enrollment sky rocket.

StillStanding
10-12-2011, 03:27 PM
As of yesterday, the vote was passed at GC11. Gateway College of Evangelism has been aquired by the UPCI and will cease to exist after this school year is up. The new school will open in fall 2011. Also, the name will change. It will be ??? University. This school will be the first ever UPCI University, and the first out of all the UPCI bible college's to obtain accreditation. Get ready to see enrollment sky rocket.

Interesting! Will it be more than just a bible school? Will it be a liberal arts college? (or should I say a "conservative" arts college?) :heeheehee

unitedpraise10
10-12-2011, 03:29 PM
Interesting! Will it be more than just a bible school? Will it be a liberal arts college? (or should I say a "conservative" arts college?) :heeheehee

Check out this site. It explains it all in detail. http://www.upcicollege.org/

houston
10-12-2011, 03:29 PM
location?

unitedpraise10
10-12-2011, 04:05 PM
Gateway College of Evangelism is in St. Louis.

deacon blues
10-12-2011, 04:27 PM
Fall of 2011?

Long overdue. All of the Bible schools are struggling to get students and why not? They have been promising accreditation for years, even have received offerings to try to accomplish such but to no avail. I was told that all of the Bible school presidents were approached about consolidating for the purpose of establishing an accredited college. It was resisted. So this must be the move in spite of the Bible schools. This will put the Bible schools out of business or they will get on the ball and finally attain accreditation. I would venture to say ABI, IBC, TBC and CLC will not be able to remain viable. UPC young people will be drawn to St. Louis in order to get a real degree and have something to show for it after four years of investment.

DrPhil
10-12-2011, 04:51 PM
As of yesterday, the vote was passed at GC11. Gateway College of Evangelism has been aquired by the UPCI and will cease to exist after this school year is up. The new school will open in fall 2011. Also, the name will change. It will be ??? University. This school will be the first ever UPCI University, and the first out of all the UPCI bible college's to obtain accreditation. Get ready to see enrollment sky rocket.

Is this a move toward education and away from indoctrination? We can only pray so.

CC1
10-12-2011, 06:38 PM
Is this a move toward education and away from indoctrination? We can only pray so.

You are such kidder! Like that is going to happen.

Jermyn Davidson
10-12-2011, 07:38 PM
As of yesterday, the vote was passed at GC11. Gateway College of Evangelism has been aquired by the UPCI and will cease to exist after this school year is up. The new school will open in fall 2011. Also, the name will change. It will be ??? University. This school will be the first ever UPCI University, and the first out of all the UPCI bible college's to obtain accreditation. Get ready to see enrollment sky rocket.


Do you mean Fall of 2012?

Nothing on the link provided in this thread shows that this "new" college exists right now.

Nothing on the link provided states that Gateway or the "new" college is now accredited.


Am I missing something?

jfrog
10-12-2011, 09:45 PM
Two questions: who is going to accredit the college (that does matter ya know?). And isn't acredidation a process that takes longer than a year?

unitedpraise10
10-12-2011, 10:05 PM
UGST is taking over/or rather purchasing Gateway. There are already accredited. ...and yes, this coming school year (fall of 2011) will be officially accredited.

jfrog
10-12-2011, 10:11 PM
UGST is taking over/or rather purchasing Gateway. There are already accredited. ...and yes, this coming school year (fall of 2011) will be officially accredited.

:thumbsup But I don't think accredidation quite works that way either. There are many different universities that share a common name but that doesn't mean they share accredidations. Maybe I'm still fuzzy as to what is actually going on?

CC1
10-12-2011, 11:03 PM
:thumbsup But I don't think accredidation quite works that way either. There are many different universities that share a common name but that doesn't mean they share accredidations. Maybe I'm still fuzzy as to what is actually going on?

I believe you are correct. My understanding is that UGST was accredited by somebody for the Masters / Doctorate portion of a degree but I don't think that would automatically make the undergraduate part it will gain by absorbing Gateway accredited.

I hope they will be able to get accredited as a Liberal Arts University and be able to offer accredited degrees. I had hoped Great Lakes University would pull this off but I understand things are not going well there and I don't know if it is even operating anymore.

houston
10-12-2011, 11:19 PM
They are seeking accredidation with the NCA per the FAQ's listed on the website.

deacon blues
10-13-2011, 06:31 AM
"AccrediTATION", not "accredidation", Frog

"They are already accredited", not "there are already accredited", United P.

Brought to you by the Grammar Sheriff :)

CC1
10-13-2011, 06:56 AM
"AccrediTATION", not "accredidation", Frog

"They are already accredited", not "there are already accredited", United P.

Brought to you by the Grammar Sheriff :)

If there is a grammar sheriff then I am in trouble big time. There must be thousands of warrants out for my arrest!

jfrog
10-13-2011, 08:05 AM
"AccrediTATION", not "accredidation", Frog

"They are already accredited", not "there are already accredited", United P.

Brought to you by the Grammar Sheriff :)

LOL. I guess it shows that I'm a math guy that ain't had an english class in a long time...

Dagwood
10-13-2011, 08:07 AM
"AccrediTATION", not "accredidation", Frog

"They are already accredited", not "there are already accredited", United P.

Brought to you by the Grammar Sheriff :)

You meant "spelling sherrif?"

Now, THIS has been brought to you by the REAL grammar sherrif!

(I couldn't resist, deacon...)

:)

PreacherV
10-13-2011, 08:18 AM
Can't remember who the accreditation is being done through, but this process at Gateway has been going on for much longer than a year. We have been getting updates on their progress at every MO District Conference for at least the last three years.

Timmy
10-13-2011, 08:26 AM
UGST is taking over/or rather purchasing Gateway. There are already accredited. ...and yes, this coming school year (fall of 2011) will be officially accredited.

Gateway's website doesn't seem to know that. ;)

"To benefit our students until we achieve accreditation, we have arranged cooperative agreements with local Christian colleges."

http://www.gatewaycollege.net/content.cfm?id=378

unitedpraise10
10-13-2011, 03:39 PM
Here are some quotes from a facebook thread from an instructor/professor at Gateway. This sheds more light from a reliable source.

"I just heard that a motion passed at Gen Conf for UGST to buy out Gateway's charter and facilities. As I understand it, at some point in the near future (summer 2012) Gateway will cease to exist and the UPCI will open an undergrad institution."

"The new college will not be named Gateway."

"That gives pentecostal's a lot less choices for colleges" -- "Actually, it opens a whole new world. Now they will have a place to go to get a non-ministerial degree." -- "The other Bible colleges are all still open."

" Isn't Great Lakes still open for non-ministerial degrees?" -- "Not sure what's going on with Great Lakes. They, like the Bible colleges, are ENDORSED by the UPCI. This new college will be owned and operated by the UPCI."

"The new college will not be liberal arts per say. It will be a Christian college. That is somewhere between a liberal arts and Bible college."

"Same as jr college or community college?" -- "No, not a junior college either. Although that would be cool if they do emphasize that aspect. The info that I have is that it will be an undergrad institution that awards degrees. I would imagine it will start out with ministry degrees in addition to whatever else they do. It won't be a Bible college because not everyone will major in Bible (30+ Bible credits). There will be four year degrees too."

"The Gateway experience was phenomenal. i hope they do not take away the spiritual side and God-centerness of it." -- "While I may not know much about the new college, I do know the people involved in its establishment. I feel very confident that the mission will be geared toward an apostolic experience in education. God will definitely be expected to be a part of matriculation!"

Charnock
10-13-2011, 03:54 PM
It will be several years before Gateway is "accredited."

:)

unitedpraise10
10-13-2011, 10:04 PM
It will be several years before Gateway is "accredited."

:)

No, you guys aren't getting it! Gateway will be an accredited institution starting fall 2012. The vote was passed at GC, meaning the UPCI now has full control over Gateway, meaning UGST is going to purchase Gateway this summer. Gateway will close it's doors, and shut down this summer...then UGST will purchase the facility and open a new school.

You are right to an extent...Gateway will never be accredited. Gateway is closing after this year. It's going to be a totally new school.

houston
10-13-2011, 11:33 PM
The site that you provided says that they are going to seek acredidation.

houston
10-13-2011, 11:42 PM
Correction: they are seeking accreditation per the website

unitedpraise10
10-14-2011, 04:37 AM
Correction: they are seeking accreditation per the website

The site I provided was released about 6 months ago with plans to vote on it at General Conference 2011. They voted, it passed!

jfrog
10-14-2011, 07:08 AM
The site I provided was released about 6 months ago with plans to vote on it at General Conference 2011. They voted, it passed!

UGST is only a graduate school isn't it? Being a graduate school doesn't mean they have any undergraduate accredidations. Therefore, them purchasing a university and opening it under a new name (even their name if they could) does not mean the new university has any of its 4 year degree programs accredidated.

jfrog
10-14-2011, 07:13 AM
It will be several years before Gateway is "accredited."

:)

yep. accreditations take time to obtain.

jfrog
10-14-2011, 07:23 AM
The site I provided was released about 6 months ago with plans to vote on it at General Conference 2011. They voted, it passed!

:( The link you gave us was about a new Christian college. It doesn't matter that the UPCI voted on anything. The UPCI doesn't accredit anyone. So if thats the only reason you think the new college will be accreditated then I will stick with the faq website that says:

This proposal was launched at the initiative of Gateway College of Evangelism. The proposal is for UGST to acquire Gateway in order to start a new undergraduate program with the goal of accreditation by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA). This proposal of the Gateway Board was endorsed by the Missouri District Board as owner of the campus, and it was recently approved by the UGST Board subject to approval of the UPCI General Board. A task force has been assembled to develop a mission statement, a financial plan, and other necessary information.

Charnock
10-14-2011, 09:29 AM
No, you guys aren't getting it! Gateway will be an accredited institution starting fall 2012. The vote was passed at GC, meaning the UPCI now has full control over Gateway, meaning UGST is going to purchase Gateway this summer. Gateway will close it's doors, and shut down this summer...then UGST will purchase the facility and open a new school.

You are right to an extent...Gateway will never be accredited. Gateway is closing after this year. It's going to be a totally new school.

You are wrong. It will be several years before the new 4 year undergraduate school will be accredited. I know, because I heard the school's president, Darrell Jons, say so yesterday. I was less than 2 feet from him when he said it.

NorCal
10-14-2011, 10:24 AM
Does it matter? By the time someone graduates in 4 years from there, they will be accredited.

Timmy
10-14-2011, 10:54 AM
Does it matter? By the time someone graduates in 4 years from there, they will be accredited.

Besides. The rapture is just a week away. :D

Timmy
10-14-2011, 11:09 AM
Seems odd to say the UPC is acquiring Gateway, and then it will cease to exist. Trying to wipe the slate clean, or something? What will that mean for the progress toward accreditation that Gateway made?

seguidordejesus
10-14-2011, 11:31 AM
Is Darrell Johns resigning his church in Atlanta?

in1accord
10-16-2011, 05:03 AM
Does it matter? By the time someone graduates in 4 years from there, they will be accredited.

It matters if you've invested in a 529 college plan and want to use the money toward it...

For 529 plan purposes, an eligible educational institution is any college, university, vocational school or other postsecondary educational institution eligible to participate in a student aid program administered by the U.S. Department of Education. By that definition, nearly all accredited public, non-profit and proprietary (privately owned, profit-making) postsecondary institutions are eligible.

unitedpraise10
10-16-2011, 08:51 AM
Is Darrell Johns resigning his church in Atlanta?

No. He serves at both locations...flying back and forth between the two. When I was a student there, he was at Gateway once or twice a month.

Hoovie
10-16-2011, 09:21 AM
You are wrong. It will be several years before the new 4 year undergraduate school will be accredited. I know, because I heard the school's president, Darrell Jons, say so yesterday. I was less than 2 feet from him when he said it.

Charn was at UPCI General Conference??!?