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Jermyn Davidson
03-23-2012, 02:04 PM
Not so new news, in Iraq, teens with the "EMO" look have been targetted for violence.

Should these Iraqi teens have to live in fear for looking EMO?

Should they forsake their individual freedom of expression so that they can live?

Should the culture in Iraq change so that the EMO kids can mind their business and live their lives in peace?

Do you think the Iraqis who are killing the EMO kids are justified for killing the EMO kids because the EMO look looks evil?

The Matt
03-23-2012, 02:07 PM
From my understanding, emos want to die. So...let em die.

The Matt
03-23-2012, 02:10 PM
In all seriousness, nobody deserves to die for the way they want to dress, and the style of music they listen to.

Jermyn Davidson
03-23-2012, 02:15 PM
In all seriousness, nobody deserves to die for the way they want to dress, and the style of music they listen to.

EMO is a dark look, arousing dark emotions of sadness, even despair. If they are purposely choosing to look EMO, are they not choosing to accept their fate?

Iraq is a culture with elements that DESPISE the west.

This prejudice is not lost on the teens who live in Iraq.


Are EMO kids looking EMO at their own peril?

Knowing the danger, if they die, is it their fault for choosing to look EMO in the first place?

Truthseeker
03-23-2012, 02:22 PM
What is EMO?

Hoovie
03-23-2012, 02:25 PM
EMO teens deserve the same freedoms and rights as everyone else. I am thankful to be living in the USA.

Jermyn Davidson
03-23-2012, 02:29 PM
EMO teens deserve the same freedoms and rights as everyone else. I am thankful to be living in the USA.

Do you think that the EMO teens share a part of the responsibility, should they die for looking EMO?


EMO teens are not born EMO, it's a choice.

Are EMO teens playing a game of "Russian Roulette" with their lives for the choice they are making whenever they don their garb of darkness?

Aquila
03-23-2012, 02:30 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that choosing to be EMO in Iraq is a little stupid?

Jermyn Davidson
03-23-2012, 02:32 PM
What is EMO?

EMO is a dark look, arousing dark emotions of sadness, even despair. If they are purposely choosing to look EMO, are they not choosing to accept their fate?

Iraq is a culture with elements that DESPISE the west.

This prejudice is not lost on the teens who live in Iraq.


Are EMO kids looking EMO at their own peril?

Knowing the danger, if they die, is it their fault for choosing to look EMO in the first place?


Truthseeker, what do you think?

Jermyn Davidson
03-23-2012, 02:34 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that choosing to be EMO in Iraq is a little stupid?

Why is it stupid to choose to wear what you want to wear?

Doesn't their Constitution protect their freedom of expression?

Jermyn Davidson
03-23-2012, 02:35 PM
I need to get back to work. TTYL.

Hoovie
03-23-2012, 02:39 PM
Do you think that the EMO teens share a part of the responsibility, should they die for looking EMO?


EMO teens are not born EMO, it's a choice.

Are EMO teens playing a game of "Russian Roulette" with their lives for the choice they are making whenever they don their garb of darkness?

It's obviously risky behavior Jermyn. I am not so sure it's even legal in Iraq.

Hoovie
03-23-2012, 02:40 PM
Why is it stupid to choose to wear what you want to wear?

Doesn't their Constitution protect their freedom of expression?

Not sure that it does.

Ferd
03-23-2012, 02:42 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that choosing to be EMO in Iraq is a little stupid?

no

Ferd
03-23-2012, 02:43 PM
and people want to suggest that islam is a religion of peace... this is just one more good bit of evidence against such a silly notion.

Titus2woman
03-23-2012, 03:30 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that choosing to be EMO in Iraq is a little stupid?

I'm so glad I was not the first one to say that.

I went to visit a coworker's brother in prison. I wore a white skirt and a white blouse. At the gate they told me they did not want to let me in because all the prisoners wear white... but if I signed a waiver I could go in... I asked why this mattered and was told "In a riot we have to know who to shoot". I drove to Walmart and bought a hot pink shirt.

Rights or not if wearing some kind of garb is going to get me killed... I'll pick something else.

houston
03-23-2012, 05:24 PM
Should they forsake their individual freedom of expression so that they can live?


They live in Iraq. They do not have individual freedom of expression. What .... planet are you from?

Praxeas
03-24-2012, 12:59 AM
EMO? Is that the new goth?

http://www.emo-site.com/images/emo-boys/emo-boys.jpg

Praxeas
03-24-2012, 01:00 AM
http://www.emo-site.com/images/emo-girls/emo_girls_with_heart_tatoo.gif

Jay
03-24-2012, 01:48 AM
When you live in that society, you had better watch the line. If gang colors were black and blue, and the cops shot them on sight, I would be wearing bright red and yellow (somewhat tic).

freeatlast
03-24-2012, 08:01 AM
So you can't wear what you'd like to or risk being killed.

These Muslims are a lot like us OP's with our legalistic rules of dress.

Thank God that we don't use bullets. We just kill with words and looks of disdain.

deafdriscoll
03-24-2012, 09:07 AM
somebody already asked what EMO is.I have never heard of this. Are the pictures a description? Is looking sad the only explantion? What does EMO stand for? What do they believe?

AncientPaths
03-24-2012, 11:49 AM
I'm amazed how many people ask a question on a forum and wait for a response when it's seconds away via a search ;) Baffling.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

Praxeas
03-24-2012, 02:50 PM
So you can't wear what you'd like to or risk being killed.

These Muslims are a lot like us OP's with our legalistic rules of dress.

Thank God that we don't use bullets. We just kill with words and looks of disdain.
speak for yourself

Praxeas
03-24-2012, 02:53 PM
EMO looks like another "wannabe" trend that started with some genre of Music.

houston
03-24-2012, 02:56 PM
EMO is so 90's

Arphaxad
03-24-2012, 04:28 PM
EMO looks like another "wannabe" trend that started with some genre of Music.

EMO is so 90's

posers

:doggyrun

Jack Shephard
03-24-2012, 04:37 PM
"Emo" is short for emotional...
I go to church with people that most would consider 'Emo" but the great thing is when you see them, hands raised, in tears in worship...I guess you can say they look...well..."Emo".

AreYouReady?
03-24-2012, 05:26 PM
speak for yourself

Well? In some churches this could and probably has happened exactly like Free at Last posted.

Let someone in the church suddenly die their hair black, get some facial piercings, ring their eyes with eyeliner and mascara, and wear black clothes. I know that the churches around here would definitely be abuzz about it....unless you happen to be the pastor's kid.

bbyrd009
03-25-2012, 11:12 AM
Well? In some churches this could and probably has happened exactly like Free at Last posted.

Let someone in the church suddenly die their hair black, get some facial piercings, ring their eyes with eyeliner and mascara, and wear black clothes. I know that the churches around here would definitely be abuzz about it....unless you happen to be the pastor's kid.

Lol--which should be a pretty big clue...

AncientPaths
03-25-2012, 05:38 PM
When you live in that society, you had better watch the line. If gang colors were black and blue, and the cops shot them on sight, I would be wearing bright red and yellow (somewhat tic).

Probably shouldn't be a Christian either, then. Just to play it safe ;)

Jay
03-25-2012, 11:50 PM
Probably shouldn't be a Christian either, then. Just to play it safe ;)



I was making a comparative analogy to the style of attiring one's self. The issue of religion is an entirely different topic.


Btw, in the churches that I have been around, it would have been the pastor's kid who would have been subject to the gossip and/or blamed for the saints' children going that way. (Fascinating contradictory stereotypes: Preachers' kids are either angels or devils with no middle ground except within their own families. This is also a slightly stereotypical remark but far more true than many wish to admit.)

Jermyn Davidson
03-27-2012, 08:37 PM
Well? In some churches this could and probably has happened exactly like Free at Last posted.

Let someone in the church suddenly die their hair black, get some facial piercings, ring their eyes with eyeliner and mascara, and wear black clothes. I know that the churches around here would definitely be abuzz about it....unless you happen to be the pastor's kid.


Well, in Iraq te citizens their supposedly have the freedom, established by their Constitution, to don the EMO look and attire, if they want to.

Isn't that, in part, was one of the sought after goals for our fighting for and liberating Iraq from the oppresive Hussein regime?


Aren't you glad that in America you are able to walk wherever you want, dressed however you want, and be completely safe-- protected by a Constitution that guarantees freedom of expression, liberty and justice for all?

Aren't you glad that you don't have to look over your shoulder when you go out public, nervous simply because you are dressed a certain way that makes others uncomfortable to the point that they attack and kill you?

Aren't you glad that stuff only happens in uneducated 3rd world countries and not in the America we know and love today?

AreYouReady?
03-27-2012, 09:07 PM
Well, in Iraq te citizens their supposedly have the freedom, established by their Constitution, to don the EMO look and attire, if they want to.

Isn't that, in part, was one of the sought after goals for our fighting for and liberating Iraq from the oppresive Hussein regime?


Aren't you glad that in America you are able to walk wherever you want, dressed however you want, and be completely safe-- protected by a Constitution that guarantees freedom of expression, liberty and justice for all?

Aren't you glad that you don't have to look over your shoulder when you go out public, nervous simply because you are dressed a certain way that makes others uncomfortable to the point that they attack and kill you?

Aren't you glad that stuff only happens in uneducated 3rd world countries and not in the America we know and love today?

Hmmm...are you yelling at me or just trying to make a point for everyone to see?

If you are making a point, I get it.

There is a city near me that is banning droopy, baggy pants. The police chief came right out and said this:

"Police Chief Tony *****, who did not lobby for the ordinance, admitted it would be difficult to enforce. He did, however, say it would give officers another valid reason to stop people and engage them. That encounter could then reveal other violations, like public intoxication or drug possession".

Now in this area, the majority of the people who wear baggy pants are black men. There are a few hip hop white men who wear them but the majority is black. So what does this "ban" sound like to you?

Another case is where a teen got shot in the butt because some man got angry over seeing his butt. From the Memphis Newspaper:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/oct/04/memphis-man-shoots-teen-who-refuses-pull-saggy-pan/

Incidentally, not to be argumentative, but Iraq was a first world country before it became a rubble.

There is a push to have tighter laws concerning the control of people all over the world. Freedom is going to be a thing of the past if people do not start to look past racial lines and take a good hard look at the media's motives as to why some stories get the limelight and some, more heinous crimes get little limelight.

Jermyn Davidson
03-27-2012, 09:29 PM
Hmmm...are you yelling at me or just trying to make a point for everyone to see?

If you are making a point, I get it.

There is a city near me that is banning droopy, baggy pants. The police chief came right out and said this:

"Police Chief Tony *****, who did not lobby for the ordinance, admitted it would be difficult to enforce. He did, however, say it would give officers another valid reason to stop people and engage them. That encounter could then reveal other violations, like public intoxication or drug possession".

Now in this area, the majority of the people who wear baggy pants are black men. There are a few hip hop white men who wear them but the majority is black. So what does this "ban" sound like to you?

Another case is where a teen got shot in the butt because some man got angry over seeing his butt. From the Memphis Newspaper:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/oct/04/memphis-man-shoots-teen-who-refuses-pull-saggy-pan/

Incidentally, not to be argumentative, but Iraq was a first world country before it became a rubble.

There is a push to have tighter laws concerning the control of people all over the world. Freedom is going to be a thing of the past if people do not start to look past racial lines and take a good hard look at the media's motives as to why some stories get the limelight and some, more heinous crimes get little limelight.

Not yelling at you at all. :yourock

I was trying to make a point.

I disagree with yours however-- not the part that declares that freedom is disappearing, but your connection of that loss of freedom to the free press doesn't add up.

Jermyn Davidson
03-27-2012, 09:32 PM
It seems to me that the ACLU or maybe even the people who are most concerned and affected by that Police Chief's decision should organize against such an infringement on the right of expression.

Laws across the country aimed at FORCING people to not drive with loud music were struck down by the Supreme Court, this law would be too.


America is the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

AreYouReady?
03-27-2012, 10:03 PM
Not yelling at you at all. :yourock

I was trying to make a point.

I disagree with yours however-- not the part that declares that freedom is disappearing, but your connection of that loss of freedom to the free press doesn't add up.

Brother Jermyn, I would ask that you do me a favor and read this:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/who-owns-the-media.html

and this:

http://www.freepress.net/resources/ownership

Then please do research of your own.

We have media mongrels who withhold news from us and spice up news for their own pleasure. Do we ever get the whole, unadulterated truth from the media? I have not seen it in my lifetime and I am well into middle age.

AreYouReady?
03-27-2012, 10:11 PM
It seems to me that the ACLU or maybe even the people who are most concerned and affected by that Police Chief's decision should organize against such an infringement on the right of expression.

Laws across the country aimed at FORCING people to not drive with loud music were struck down by the Supreme Court, this law would be too.


America is the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

Oh the people have had protests, but the few council people have spoken! They will probably get voted out next election.

Personally, I have learned that I have the freedom to look away or to even laugh at droopy pants....of which I find more amusing than offensive. Maybe it's because I worked in the medical field most of my life. Seen one...seen them all. Perhaps I am just a different person than most because I figure that if people who wear such clothing could really see how hilarious they look, they may just stop wearing them after a few people or a crowd laughs.

I think freedom is more important than laws and ordinances that ban things. Morality cannot be legislated...no matter what anybody says. This same town even bans certain shrubs one may grow in their front yard. So ... talk about a noose around the neck....

Praxeas
03-29-2012, 05:16 PM
Can I change the name of this thread to "Finding Emos"?

We can make a game out of it....... :icecream

AreYouReady?
03-29-2012, 07:07 PM
Can I change the name of this thread to "Finding Emos"?

We can make a game out of it....... :icecream

:lol

Titus2woman
03-29-2012, 07:17 PM
Can I change the name of this thread to "Finding Emos"?

We can make a game out of it....... :icecream


I prefer 'WHRE'S EMO'... like 'WHERE'S WALDO'.... only creepy! http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff308/jayzee5035/Emo.png