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Bro. Robbins
04-03-2012, 10:02 AM
An acquaintance of mine asked the question of a group of us, "What is your Passion?"

I asked them, what is your definition for Passion, cause that can mean so many things to so many people. They said, "A passion is an intense drive that one has for a particular thing or activity. It consumes your thoughts during your down time if it's not your occupation. When people ask you what you're passionate about, you don't have to think about it."

After reading through that definition a couple of times... I had to be honest. I think back over my life, and the majority of the people I've known in 39 years of living weren't really passionate about anything. Even most of the ministers and preachers I've worked for, and most of the church people I've known really weren't passionate about anything.

There were things they cared about, but not really passionate. And most of the people I work with, and know aren't what you would call passionate people. They wake up, meet their duties of the day best they know how, try to live right, serve God as best they can, work hard, try to be honest in paying bills, go to bed at night, and tomorrow do the whole thing over again. Not passionate about anything per se, just trying to do the best they can at living.

And I would have to say, I'm not passionate about anything. I don't have a passion. Not saying that's a good or a bad thing, but I don't think there are that many people with a PASSION.

What say you? Do you have a Passion (keeping with the above definition)? If so, what is it? How do you view people without a passion?

Amanah
04-03-2012, 10:08 AM
If I am passionate about anything it would be about God,
although I would not say I always have an intense drive,
I can say He consumes my thoughts.

Dagwood
04-03-2012, 10:37 AM
Music and singing is my passion. I'm not a professional artist or musician by any means. However, not a day goes by that some song or lyric from somewhere doesn't pop into my mind.

I absolutely love talking about music with others who share a similar interest and don't mind talking about it with me. I'm also constantly on the look-out for music events, although I haven't gone to as many as I'd like.

KeptByTheWord
04-03-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm passionate about the Word of God. It seems I can never get enough time to read it. I read it every chance I get, and there is a Bible somewhere in almost every room of our home. It is life to me, and truth. I am passionate about worshiping and praising Jesus, it is something I do every chance I can get, I want to talk about Him, sing about Him, and just love Him from the depths of my heart.

There was a time in my life where my passion was other things, mainly crafting, and it stole my time away from God. The Lord showed me these things, and all my crafting tools have gathered dust over the last several years, but my Bible and my time with the Lord is the most precious thing to me now.

Bro. Robbins
04-03-2012, 11:32 AM
so to those of you who have posted... does everyone you know have a passion? Do the majority of people you know have a passion? The majority of those I know don't have a passion, I don't have one. There are things I care about, but I certainly don't have any passions in my life.

Is it a bad thing to not have a passion?

Amanah
04-03-2012, 12:15 PM
let me answer this way:

you can have a successful marriage w/o passion,
but with passion the marriage is greatly enriched.

Hoovie
04-03-2012, 12:19 PM
Espresso Coffee, children and their education, and a hot woman who is about to bear my fifth child.

Sister Alvear
04-03-2012, 12:29 PM
Missions

Titus2woman
04-03-2012, 12:41 PM
Farming is my passion. I love everything about the pastoral life. To see God's creation each day in every season and to be in tune to so many Bible principles- sowing and reaping, leaving those who are safe and going to find the lost, wheat and tares- this life makes His word come alive.

Life and death happen on a farm- moment by moment. Dominion over the earth is experienced as real. His attention to every detail becomes apparent in the most vivid ways while watching bees make honey or ants make hills.

His power is undeniable and our helplessness without Him is realized in thunderstorms and hail that crush new seedlings and droughts that dry up the very earth until it cracks. His mercy is apparent in the fresh start of each spring with new shoots that break the cold chilled soil and reach for the sun.

Nurturing baby animals and tender plants and helping them to live had given me a new understanding of His tender care for us.

To be able to cultivate, grow, raise, keep and care for everything that is needed to sustain life but still needing Him to fill my soul, helps me to understand my place in His plan and my value to Him and makes me love Him more than I ever imagined possible.

Bro. Robbins
04-03-2012, 01:21 PM
I'm loving these answers, and very obvious that some of you have some things you are very passionate about. Great answers.

But I pose the question again... do you have people you know that don't have a passion? What is your assessment of that? Do you think they are missing out or if that floats their boat so to speak....

Or do you believe, everyone actually has a passion of some kind whether they know it or not?

bbyrd009
04-03-2012, 01:48 PM
Farming is my passion...

So much easier to get a fuller image of God on a farm, imo (never been on one, been a city boy all my life)

I think there is some discussion of this def of passion at
"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might,"
and...won't say anything about tools gathering dust in pursuit of God,
except to say that while some pursuits might surely take one away,
they might just as easily be a wonderful expression of God, also.

I mean, Christ was a mason (or carpenter, if you prefer)--
but He also more or less "laid that down"...I note it was to "go out,"
however, and not become introspective, for whatever that may be worth?

http://www.wikihow.com/Discover-Your-Passion

Dalton
04-03-2012, 01:56 PM
I would have to say my passion is beginning to turn to searching the scriptures. Just trying to get the word in me at the moment and waiting for the spirit...

Other than that, I would have to say Guitar is my second fav. I have played ever since I was about 7 or 8 years old.. Learning about my heritage (Which is Greek and Norwegian.) Learning to speak other languages is way up there for me too.

There is something about a language that tells you about that group of people as a whole. Like in icelandic there are numerous ways to describe wind... where we only have a couple, simply because we don't have a need for that many words for it... or in indian there is a word for the feeling two people have when they look at each other but are too shy to go say something to one another... they must have great stress on that feeling to give it its own word. Kind of gives you a deeper connection. I love language learning.

As well as studying martial arts, mainly krav maga and wing chun. I'm also interested in history.

Michael The Disciple
04-03-2012, 02:12 PM
Jesus Christ, his spirit and his word. 38 years ago today he gave me the Holy Ghost. He has been my passion since that day.

Titus2woman
04-03-2012, 02:15 PM
"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might,"


This is it! I did not find farming until I was in my 40's although I did find gardening :) I have met people who grew up on a farm and all they can say is that they are glad they got away "Too much work!"

Don plays guitar at a level not reached by many in this world. He loves it and has spent a lifetime perfecting it. I often say 'Could you turn that amplifier down, I'm trying to read!' having little appreciaton of what it takes to create music. Others can listen to Don play for hours and days on end.

Before farming my passion was medicine. I loved everything about the human body and learning all the secrets of what made it work and what caused it to fail.

And yes I think everyone has the potential to be passionate about something but not every season in life will find us in hot pursuit of something passionately. :)

Titus2woman
04-03-2012, 02:18 PM
Jesus Christ, his spirit and his word. 38 years ago today he gave me the Holy Ghost. He has been my passion since that day.

Happy Birthday MTD

Cindy
04-03-2012, 02:47 PM
God, family, friends.

bbyrd009
04-03-2012, 05:55 PM
This is it! I did not find farming until I was in my 40's although I did find gardening :) I have met people who grew up on a farm and all they can say is that they are glad they got away "Too much work!"

Don plays guitar at a level not reached by many in this world. He loves it and has spent a lifetime perfecting it. I often say 'Could you turn that amplifier down, I'm trying to read!' having little appreciaton of what it takes to create music. Others can listen to Don play for hours and days on end.

Before farming my passion was medicine. I loved everything about the human body and learning all the secrets of what made it work and what caused it to fail.

And yes I think everyone has the potential to be passionate about something but not every season in life will find us in hot pursuit of something passionately. :)

not Don Alder (youtube) by any chance? If not, you gotta link? If not, you should consider putting him on youtube! Very easy now.

bbyrd009
04-03-2012, 05:57 PM
Happy Birthday MTD

Woo-hoo! Very cool; you have made much of it.

Dordrecht
04-03-2012, 06:10 PM
My passion is riding motorcycles.

MissBrattified
04-03-2012, 06:28 PM
My passions would be the things I focus on, care the most about and spend the most time and effort on. Currently, that would be God, family, music, my home & garden, friends and community outreach.

Things that I'm not passionate about are things I can do without and really don't care much one way or the other.

If you want to know what a person is passionate about, just watch what they do. Their life will center around their passions. I don't define a "passion" as something someone talks about all the time, although that can fit into the picture in some ways. Passion is a driving force that defines your priorities, your lifestyle and your choices. IMO, everyone is passionate about something.

Jay
04-03-2012, 07:30 PM
My father and I are both passionate about Southern Gospel music. Between the two of us, we have nearly 800+ cds.

I am also passionate about politics, history, family, friends, and religion. One of my overwhelming passions is to know more about the ways of the gifts of the Spirit.

Bro. Robbins
04-04-2012, 06:40 AM
IMO, everyone is passionate about something.

You said exactly what my acuaintance said. And honestly, I think that there are some of us in life, that just don't have a passion. I probably didn't in my younger days, but life isn't like that for me now.

There are many of us, that life is about getting up, working 50+ hours at a job we're not crazy about, but desperately need in this economy to survive, meeting church obligations, trying to be a good citizen, chores and duties at home (no wife and live alone, so it's all me at home), family obligations, trying to be the Christian God would have me be, going to bed, and starting all over the next day. I don't have any hobbies, nothing I collect, no spare time to do anything, etc.

I look around me, and see a ton of my friends, especially in recent years, just trying to live. Nothing we're passionate about, but just trying to make it day by day and make it one more day. So, I'll have to disagree here... I used to have many passions, but that luxury is gone in my life now... just how it is... and I see many others in the same boat... and frankly, that's okay. Nothing says you have to have a passion.

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 07:42 AM
You said exactly what my acuaintance said. And honestly, I think that there are some of us in life, that just don't have a passion. I probably didn't in my younger days, but life isn't like that for me now.

There are many of us, that life is about getting up, working 50+ hours at a job we're not crazy about, but desperately need in this economy to survive, meeting church obligations, trying to be a good citizen, chores and duties at home (no wife and live alone, so it's all me at home), family obligations, trying to be the Christian God would have me be, going to bed, and starting all over the next day. I don't have any hobbies, nothing I collect, no spare time to do anything, etc.

I look around me, and see a ton of my friends, especially in recent years, just trying to live. Nothing we're passionate about, but just trying to make it day by day and make it one more day. So, I'll have to disagree here... I used to have many passions, but that luxury is gone in my life now... just how it is... and I see many others in the same boat... and frankly, that's okay. Nothing says you have to have a passion.

Maybe you better have another look at your signature line and put that together with what you've said above? God gave us this life to really LIVE, to experience the earth in all it's glory. He could have made it any way he wanted to... with just enough to subsist but He made it glorious with so many wonders. If I were not a farmer, which requires being in one place much of the time here are some things that I would enjoy to the point of considering them a passion:

Fishing/Hunting
Horseback riding
Photography
Travel- especially the RV variety
Travel to other countries

If I had not broken my leg into many pieces that did not properly knit I would include:

Distance running
Hiking
Surfing/Water skiing

One of the things that nearly ruined my life was obligation. The one I had to church especially. Having to be somewhere every time the doors opened, which in my case was 5 times a week, was beyond too much. And while these people were/are my friends and I enjoyed seeing them, we did not really get to interact that much. After all those years I finally came to the conclusion that another sermon is not what I need to live for God... what I needed was to actually LIVE for God. To His glory, in everything I do.

In addition to farming I am a blogger and a raw food advocate. Getting people healthy means something to me. Going out to eat fat filled restaurant food after church with a bunch of people who were already grossly overweight three times a week was not consistent with that at all but it was really the only social outlet in our church except special occasions (which also usually involved food). So for now our little group of home churchers t is working much better for me. They are mostly farmer/homeschooler types, like me.

I truly hope you find things to love in life and to be passionate about.

Bro. Robbins
04-04-2012, 08:27 AM
Maybe you better have another look at your signature line and put that together with what you've said above? God gave us this life to really LIVE, to experience the earth in all it's glory. He could have made it any way he wanted to... with just enough to subsist but He made it glorious with so many wonders. If I were not a farmer, which requires being in one place much of the time here are some things that I would enjoy to the point of considering them a passion:

Fishing/Hunting
Horseback riding
Photography
Travel- especially the RV variety
Travel to other countries

If I had not broken my leg into many pieces that did not properly knit I would include:

Distance running
Hiking
Surfing/Water skiing

One of the things that nearly ruined my life was obligation. The one I had to church especially. Having to be somewhere every time the doors opened, which in my case was 5 times a week, was beyond too much. And while these people were/are my friends and I enjoyed seeing them, we did not really get to interact that much. After all those years I finally came to the conclusion that another sermon is not what I need to live for God... what I needed was to actually LIVE for God. To His glory, in everything I do.

In addition to farming I am a blogger and a raw food advocate. Getting people healthy means something to me. Going out to eat fat filled restaurant food after church with a bunch of people who were already grossly overweight three times a week was not consistent with that at all but it was really the only social outlet in our church except special occasions (which also usually involved food). So for now our little group of home churchers t is working much better for me. They are mostly farmer/homeschooler types, like me.

I truly hope you find things to love in life and to be passionate about.

There is no contradiction between my signature line and what I said. Seems like you always want to argue with anything I post and find fault.

I'm just saying, I think the whole "have a passion in life" is a luxury for some. And there's nothing that says you have to have a passion in life. Some people just live and are content just living a simple life with no frills and nothing they are really passionate about. And that's me, and I'm very, very content. Out of all the people I know at work, church, family.... there are very few that have a passion, but most of them seem very content with their lives without one. My acquaintance made is sound as if someone without a passion was somehow depressed, opressed, and lacking... and I don't believe that is true in all cases.

By the way, never said I didn't have things in life that I loved....that's a different topic... I said I don't have a passion in life. Big difference.

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 08:53 AM
There is no contradiction between my signature line and what I said. Seems like you always want to argue with anything I post and find fault.

I'm just saying, I think the whole "have a passion in life" is a luxury for some. And there's nothing that says you have to have a passion in life. Some people just live and are content just living a simple life with no frills and nothing they are really passionate about. And that's me, and I'm very, very content. Out of all the people I know at work, church, family.... there are very few that have a passion, but most of them seem very content with their lives without one. My acquaintance made is sound as if someone without a passion was somehow depressed, opressed, and lacking... and I don't believe that is true in all cases.

By the way, never said I didn't have things in life that I loved....that's a different topic... I said I don't have a passion in life. Big difference.

Bro Robbison I am not 'arguing' with you. You asked a question and I am trying to help you answer your question. I live a VERY simple life but I find pleasure in watching grass grow. So simple does not equal boring or discontented.

One of the keys for me in how I saw your post was that you repeatedly refer to your life's activities as 'obligations'... the antithesis of 'passions'. I too work nearly 50 a week off farm in a hospital. I spend time helping people transiton from health to sickness and sickness to helath. I find great joy in that. I did not list it as a passion because I am currently trying to leave it to farm full time and I didn't want to sound like a big blow-hard... but actually I love my work. It is not that my job is just so great... It's an attitude. I realize that God could have made the world any way He wanted but he did not make it just for us to subsist He made it for us to flourish!

Whatever we do should be done for His GLORY.
My answer is if you do not feel passionate about what you are doing, perhaps you are not doing what God intended for you to.

In example, you are a minister correct? But admittedly not passionate about it. I would like to suggest a book to you, "Called and Sent or Just Went", you can find it here:

http://pentecostalpublishing.com/node/3899

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 09:03 AM
Bro Robbison I am not 'arguing' with you. You asked a question and I am trying to help you answer your question. I live a VERY simple life but I find pleasure in watching grass grow. So simple does not equal boring or discontented.

One of the keys for me in how I saw your post was that you repeatedly refer to your life's activities as 'obligations'... the antithesis of 'passions'. I too work nearly 50 a week off farm in a hospital. I spend time helping people transiton from health to sickness and sickness to helath. I find great joy in that. I did not list it as a passion because I am currently trying to leave it to farm full time and I didn't want to sound like a big blow-hard... but actually I love my work. It is not that my job is just so great... It's an attitude. I realize that God could have made the world any way He wanted but he did not make it just for us to subsist He made it for us to flourish!

Whatever we do should be done for His GLORY.
My answer is if you do not feel passionate about what you are doing, perhaps you are not doing what God intended for you to.

In example, you are a minister correct? But admittedly not passionate about it. I would like to suggest a book to you, "Called and Sent or Just Went", you can find it here:

http://pentecostalpublishing.com/node/3899

:thumbsup

I think it depends on how you define "passion." There may be a disconnect there.... To me, "passion" is the driving force behind most our choices (although many things are simply responsibilities), and so I see what people do and I assume these are the things they are passionate about.

There are times when our choices have led us away from our passions and IMO, that's when we need to reevaluate and organize our lives to include the things, people and experiences that matter.

Of course, we can't expect our whole life to be full of excitement, either. We survive the humdrum so that we can enjoy the special moments and special people. That's life.

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 09:03 AM
There is no contradiction between my signature line and what I said. Seems like you always want to argue with anything I post and find fault.

It's just a discussion; not an argument. ;)

Amanah
04-04-2012, 09:16 AM
If I am passionate about anything it would be about God,
although I would not say I always have an intense drive,
I can say He consumes my thoughts.

I'm also passionate about my dog, Siegfried, he is my walking and running partner. We eat breakfast together in the mornings, he likes scrambled eggs, but not french toast. He walks me to the door in the morning when I go to work, and greets me when I get home. He keeps me company when I'm watching movies, reading books, or whatever I'm doing. He likes me better then he likes anyone else in the world, and with the exception of my husband and sister, I feel the same towards him.

Bro. Robbins
04-04-2012, 09:19 AM
"A passion is an intense drive that one has for a particular thing or activity. It consumes your thoughts during your down time if it's not your occupation. When people ask you what you're passionate about, you don't have to think about it."


This is how it was framed as the definition of having a Passion in life. So this is the working hypothesis I was hoping the thread would go from so that we're all on the same page in how we're defining, having a passion.

Yes, I am a minister, and love doing what I do. I am called, know that without a shadow of a doubt, but I wouldn't say it's my passion, working within the confines of the definition that was provided to me by the person who asked me the original question.

There is nothing that consumes my thoughts during my down time... I don't have down time. There is nothing that immediately jumps to mind if someone asked me what I'm passionate about.

I have a great love for ministry, my family, living right, and other things... but none of them are a passion for me. I don't think everyone has a passion, and don't think they are any worse off in life without one.

Someone posted they loved to see grass grow... cool, but that doesn't mean it's your passion just cause you love it.

Someone also asked about "obligations". Life is full of them! Life isn't about being happy and enjoying yourself, sometimes you get to do those things, and sometimes you don't. We are here for His Glory and His purpose, our agenda, wants, desires and even happiness are far down on the list most of the time. We're here to do right and be kingdom minded, not have a good time.

MY WHOLE POINT OF THE THREAD... is... working within the confines of the definition that my acquaintance provided, I answered them that I don't have a passion. And from that, this person seemed to infer that everyone MUST have a passion in life, or somehow they are less fullfilled in life. And I just don't buy that.

I've known my parents for 39 years, they've been married 48. I've never known either of them to have any passion about anything, but they have been wonderful, amazing parents. They have a successful marriage, and they are very happy and content.

Maybe just living is enough in itself for some of us, and we don't need the luxury of having a "passion" in life. Possibly???????

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 09:21 AM
It does depend on how one defines passion... I guess I could say I am very passionate and aggressive in my business, and I do love it. But I am also obligated to perform well, to provide for the family and make another trip to Europe a reality..

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 09:35 AM
Based on this definition:

"A passion is an intense drive that one has for a particular thing or activity. It consumes your thoughts during your down time if it's not your occupation. When people ask you what you're passionate about, you don't have to think about it."

I would still answer that my passions are:

God (and His Word), family, Music, home and garden and community outreach.

I have an intense drive for these particular things or activities and these are things that consume my thoughts and most of my time, the latter by design.

Are you sure you can't say with equal fervor that you are passionate about God, His Word and/or ministry? Your posts convey that.... It seems like on this thread that you're looking for a certain "feeling" and you've decided that you don't have that feeling about anything in your life, but I don't know if that's a good place to start with the analysis. Also, referencing your parents: if they've been married for 48 years and were good parents, I would say they are passionate about each other and passionate about you. ;)

Passion isn't necessarily exhibited in flamboyant ways. A person who consistently and persistently pursues the same goals over the course of a lifetime is demonstrating that they are passionate about those goals. A person who stays loyal and true to the same people over the course of a lifetime is illustrating that they are passionate about those people.

If I were answering your acquaintance FOR you, based just on your posts on this forum and nothing else, I would say: "Yes, Bro. Robbins is passionate about God, God's Word, pursuing godliness...and a baby named Andrew and his family." You might say that you're not passionate about these things, but your "speech betrays you."

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 09:41 AM
Does anyone else hate that Ms Bratty is right 97.8% of the time?

See her last post for spot on evidence!

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 09:42 AM
Does anyone else hate that Ms Bratty is right 97.8% of the time?

See her last post for spot on evidence!

97.8%? 97.8%? I feel like I've been demoted!!!! :heeheehee

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 09:51 AM
97.8%? 97.8%? I feel like I've been demoted!!!! :heeheehee

That's to keep your ego in check. Not to mention you are wrong at times (a la Zimmerman)...

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 09:52 AM
:D

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 10:01 AM
What say you? Do you have a Passion (keeping with the above definition)? If so, what is it? How do you view people without a passion?

YOU asked how others view people who do not have a passion. When I answered your queston you faulted me for an honest answer.

This is how it was framed as the definition of having a Passion in life. So this is the working hypothesis I was hoping the thread would go from so that we're all on the same page in how we're defining, having a passion.?

There is already a definition for the word. You can refine but not redefine it. I answered based on the common defination of the term passion.

Someone also asked about "obligations". Life is full of them! Life isn't about being happy and enjoying yourself, sometimes you get to do those things, and sometimes you don't. We are here for His Glory and His purpose, our agenda, wants, desires and even happiness are far down on the list most of the time. We're here to do right and be kingdom minded, not have a good time.

MY WHOLE POINT OF THE THREAD... is... working within the confines of the definition that my acquaintance provided, I answered them that I don't have a passion. And from that, this person seemed to infer that everyone MUST have a passion in life, or somehow they are less fullfilled in life. And I just don't buy that.

Maybe just living is enough in itself for some of us, and we don't need the luxury of having a "passion" in life. Possibly???????

You will find that no matter YOUR WHOLE POINT, when you post in a public forum you will get many points of view. You have to learn to stop seeing any that are not in agreement with yours as a personal affront. Or post as some others have that you only want opinions that agree with yours and list your rules in advance so we do not get confused. To come back later to say how we did not meet your expectations is not fair.

My point was and is that if something is seen as obligatory it often loses it's joy. I raised five children. Having myself been raised in foster care I was well aware that it was not something I HAD to do. I did it because I loved being a mother and I loved them. I never felt 'obligated' I felt blessed. I would consider that I was very passionate about being a good mother. :)

About the grass growing, which you seem to have a hard time believing I am passionate about... I read Stockman magizine, and books like All Flesh is Grass. I buy special seed, I spend hours and days deciding which clovers, grasses, legumes, etc. will make my pastures good enough to raise cattle who do not require supplementation of commercial grain. It is a passion and seeing it come to fruition with lush greenery that sucuessfully does what I planned for it to do is satisfying beyond measure. If that is not a passion, you will need to again redefine what the rules are for that term in your world.

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 10:25 AM
In my inbox this morning from other passionate grass farmers ;)

I wanted to let everyone know that we will be having our 19th annual Clover/Forage Field Day on Wednesday, April 25th. Registration is $20 at the Iola Community Center in Iola. Iola is about 75 miles NW of Houston. Lunch is included. Gene Sollock will be speaking on surviving the drought, forage production, clover planting and other topics. I will be speaking on getting started...electric fences, rotational grazing and cattle selection. Our guest speaker this year will be Jason Kramer of Yonder Way Farms. Yonder Way Farms does multispecies grazing and is a "Farmer's Market Extraodinaire"! The afternoon session will be out at Sollock Farm. You can get more information by contacting our Bedias Creek Soil and Water District clerk - Kenda Mahaffey at XXXXXXXXX Other information and website links can be found on our website: www.texasgrassfed.com

Bro. Robbins
04-04-2012, 10:44 AM
Based on this definition:

"A passion is an intense drive that one has for a particular thing or activity. It consumes your thoughts during your down time if it's not your occupation. When people ask you what you're passionate about, you don't have to think about it."

I would still answer that my passions are:

God (and His Word), family, Music, home and garden and community outreach.

I have an intense drive for these particular things or activities and these are things that consume my thoughts and most of my time, the latter by design.

Are you sure you can't say with equal fervor that you are passionate about God, His Word and/or ministry? Your posts convey that.... It seems like on this thread that you're looking for a certain "feeling" and you've decided that you don't have that feeling about anything in your life, but I don't know if that's a good place to start with the analysis. Also, referencing your parents: if they've been married for 48 years and were good parents, I would say they are passionate about each other and passionate about you. ;)

Passion isn't necessarily exhibited in flamboyant ways. A person who consistently and persistently pursues the same goals over the course of a lifetime is demonstrating that they are passionate about those goals. A person who stays loyal and true to the same people over the course of a lifetime is illustrating that they are passionate about those people.

If I were answering your acquaintance FOR you, based just on your posts on this forum and nothing else, I would say: "Yes, Bro. Robbins is passionate about God, God's Word, pursuing godliness...and a baby named Andrew and his family." You might say that you're not passionate about these things, but your "speech betrays you."

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Because under the definition my acquaintance gave me for passion, there is nothing or no one that fills that order in my life... and honestly, that's fine.

Not looking for a feeling, but I'm a black and white guy. And the definition he gave was pretty black and white, and there's really nothing that fits that for me.

My overall point, was this guy's reaction to me saying that I didn't have a passion, and that I thought many people I knew didn't have one was like..."that's horrible. They're missing out on so much of life." And I found his response to be sort of condescending.

He made it sound as if unless there was something you are passionate about in life, that your missing out, and I know so many that are examples of the opposite.

There's nothing wrong with just living life day to day, doing what your supposed to do, fulfilling the responsibilities and obligations of the day and doing right by people, and then going to bed and doing it all over again the next day.

I know some people that are passionate about fitness... it consumes them. Some about their hobbies. Some about their family or cooking... and bully for them. More power to them if they feel that's good for them... but not everyone has that... and there's nothing wrong with that... I suppose that's what I'm trying to say.

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 10:59 AM
We'll just have to agree to disagree. Because under the definition my acquaintance gave me for passion, there is nothing or no one that fills that order in my life... and honestly, that's fine.

Not looking for a feeling, but I'm a black and white guy. And the definition he gave was pretty black and white, and there's really nothing that fits that for me.

My overall point, was this guy's reaction to me saying that I didn't have a passion, and that I thought many people I knew didn't have one was like..."that's horrible. They're missing out on so much of life." And I found his response to be sort of condescending.

He made it sound as if unless there was something you are passionate about in life, that your missing out, and I know so many that are examples of the opposite.

There's nothing wrong with just living life day to day, doing what your supposed to do, fulfilling the responsibilities and obligations of the day and doing right by people, and then going to bed and doing it all over again the next day.

I know some people that are passionate about fitness... it consumes them. Some about their hobbies. Some about their family or cooking... and bully for them. More power to them if they feel that's good for them... but not everyone has that... and there's nothing wrong with that... I suppose that's what I'm trying to say.

Your aquaintence was probably not condecending he was probably incredulous.

Passion:
Synonyms
1. Strong feeling, fervor, zeal, ardor.

Antonyms
1. apathy.

Perhaps you are a little depressed. Therapy maybe? You are quite a young man to just plod along doing what is right with little joy in it. No judgement here Bro. Robbins just a sincere desire to not see you at the end of life having not really experienced it to the fullest. Christ came so that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

Peace to you. :)

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 11:02 AM
We'll just have to agree to disagree. Because under the definition my acquaintance gave me for passion, there is nothing or no one that fills that order in my life... and honestly, that's fine.

Not looking for a feeling, but I'm a black and white guy. And the definition he gave was pretty black and white, and there's really nothing that fits that for me.

My overall point, was this guy's reaction to me saying that I didn't have a passion, and that I thought many people I knew didn't have one was like..."that's horrible. They're missing out on so much of life." And I found his response to be sort of condescending.

He made it sound as if unless there was something you are passionate about in life, that your missing out, and I know so many that are examples of the opposite.

There's nothing wrong with just living life day to day, doing what your supposed to do, fulfilling the responsibilities and obligations of the day and doing right by people, and then going to bed and doing it all over again the next day.

I know some people that are passionate about fitness... it consumes them. Some about their hobbies. Some about their family or cooking... and bully for them. More power to them if they feel that's good for them... but not everyone has that... and there's nothing wrong with that... I suppose that's what I'm trying to say.

I guess we're just defining it differently--even using the spinoff definition that you gave. It seems to me like you're saying that it's fine to be content with regular old life (and I agree), and you're saying that that contentment with a plain, simple, unembellished life means there's no passion. (That's where I disagree.)

I DO agree that a person doesn't need to have spectacular hobbies or some recreational activity to be passionate about. I do think that we all have passions and that our lives reveal what those are--over time. That's where you and I will have to agree to disagree, I suppose. Some people are passionate about being lazy; some are passionate about being wasteful; some are passionate about drugs, alcohol or immorality. Not all passions are beneficial or wonderful; some are downright destructive. Still, if a person deliberately devotes time and effort to something, I believe it can be called "their passion."

I think I get what you're saying to your friend, though. That it's fine to be content with life as it is, and not have a lot of motivation to find some exceptional hobby or interest on the side? Maybe... :whistle

AreYouReady?
04-04-2012, 11:22 AM
I had to really think about an answer that would be in accordance with the definition of this word "Passion" as outlined at the beginning.

I don't have a passion of collecting things. I find it pointless to see a bunch of objects lined up on a shelf, except for maybe books, useful books. Or have a passion to do something that takes up an extraordinary amount of my time, that I am a fanatic about, or that I go to great lengths to achieve...except perhaps this:

I love to learn and to observe people, places and things. I like to know what makes people tick. There are always clues as to why people think the way they do...their position on any given topic. However, there is a difference between letting someone share and prying. Prying is a no-no.

I love to learn about God's word, people, economics, knowledge about what is going on in the world that is not reported by mainstream media. I love the strange phenomenoa, because there is usually an explanation for it. I love to hear and read about how God blesses people and the events that lead up to it. I like to hear about people's sorrows, not to get pleasure out of their sorrows, but to have empathy with them and to encourage them in those sorrows. I find it comforting for myself when someone can empathize with me through my sorrows and encourage me.

I never take anybody at face value because there is always more to a person deeper down that what anybody ever shows to the general public. I know that we all put on our societal mask when we go out in public. It is the mask that we put on because most of us want to be liked by others. That is basic human nature. What we don't see sometimes is the pain, hurt, anger, impatience or tranquility that is deep within the souls. Sometimes the look on someone's face tells something about them when a person looks at a beautiful butterfly that chooses to land on his/her finger. Their reaction to the softer things in life says a lot about them when they think nobody is looking.

Everybody's inner core always starts out with innocence, happiness, contentment and loving. Life sometimes has a way that layers that inner core with a shell to protect it...much like an onion. If the layers can be pulled back to reveal the good inner core, or if the oyster shell can be opened to reveal that pearl...you found something that is a treasure...friendship.

Yeah...that would be my passion...except that it is a slow process because you can only do this with one or two people at a time and you are only able to seek as allowed by people. It has taken years in some cases to develop a trusting, close friendship and other times only months.

My goal of this passion is to find pearls among the many people that come into my life daily.

I've found one here and hope to find many more either here or in my everyday life.

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 12:10 PM
I am passionate about not having overly strong, enthusiastic or emotional feelings about anything.

KeptByTheWord
04-04-2012, 12:13 PM
Is anyone here passionate about AFF? :)

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 12:43 PM
I am passionate about not having overly strong, enthusiastic or emotional feelings about anything.

Are you related to a certain Bro. R?

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 12:44 PM
Is anyone here passionate about AFF? :)

This place has been a tremendous blessing to me in a time of spiritual turmoil. So yes... maybe so :)

You are not alone :hug

Titus2woman
04-04-2012, 12:45 PM
I had to really think about an answer that would be in accordance with the definition of this word "Passion" as outlined at the beginning.

I don't have a passion of collecting things. I find it pointless to see a bunch of objects lined up on a shelf, except for maybe books, useful books. Or have a passion to do something that takes up an extraordinary amount of my time, that I am a fanatic about, or that I go to great lengths to achieve...except perhaps this:

I love to learn and to observe people, places and things. I like to know what makes people tick. There are always clues as to why people think the way they do...their position on any given topic. However, there is a difference between letting someone share and prying. Prying is a no-no.

I love to learn about God's word, people, economics, knowledge about what is going on in the world that is not reported by mainstream media. I love the strange phenomenoa, because there is usually an explanation for it. I love to hear and read about how God blesses people and the events that lead up to it. I like to hear about people's sorrows, not to get pleasure out of their sorrows, but to have empathy with them and to encourage them in those sorrows. I find it comforting for myself when someone can empathize with me through my sorrows and encourage me.

I never take anybody at face value because there is always more to a person deeper down that what anybody ever shows to the general public. I know that we all put on our societal mask when we go out in public. It is the mask that we put on because most of us want to be liked by others. That is basic human nature. What we don't see sometimes is the pain, hurt, anger, impatience or tranquility that is deep within the souls. Sometimes the look on someone's face tells something about them when a person looks at a beautiful butterfly that chooses to land on his/her finger. Their reaction to the softer things in life says a lot about them when they think nobody is looking.

Everybody's inner core always starts out with innocence, happiness, contentment and loving. Life sometimes has a way that layers that inner core with a shell to protect it...much like an onion. If the layers can be pulled back to reveal the good inner core, or if the oyster shell can be opened to reveal that pearl...you found something that is a treasure...friendship.

Yeah...that would be my passion...except that it is a slow process because you can only do this with one or two people at a time and you are only able to seek as allowed by people. It has taken years in some cases to develop a trusting, close friendship and other times only months.

My goal of this passion is to find pearls among the many people that come into my life daily.

I've found one here and hope to find many more either here or in my everyday life.

Now that is cool. :yourock

AreYouReady?
04-04-2012, 01:14 PM
I am passionate about not having overly strong, enthusiastic or emotional feelings about anything.

Not knocking your passion of not having any overly strong, enthusiastic or emotional feelings, but it is my observation that Jesus Christ was a very passionate person. He got angry. He told it like it was to the Scribes and Pharisees. He even wept over people who misunderstood who He is and over the mighty power of God He possessed. I am willing to believe that His personality was vibrant, strong and emotional. Not emotional in the way people think of emotional...all weepy and such as that. But emotional in showing compassion or righteous judgment or as in definite feelings he may have shown and one may have felt from him in that one knows when they have been with the Lord...He would be unforgettable because we would feel that passion emanate from Him. I would think that you would feel his emotions and personality much the way we feel when the Holy Spirit blesses us.

Are you sure that you have no overly strong feelings or do you just not wish to post them for all to see? Some people just love to have privacy in their life and that is cool too.

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 01:36 PM
It was a joke. Saying I am passionate about not being passionate.

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 01:37 PM
It was a joke. Saying I am passionate about not being passionate.

We didn't know. You weren't smiling in your avatar. LOL!

Timmy
04-04-2012, 01:47 PM
I am passionate about not having overly strong, enthusiastic or emotional feelings about anything.

I'm passionate about moderation. Man, I can't get enough of that stuff! :lol

Amanah
04-04-2012, 01:48 PM
We didn't know. You weren't smiling in your avatar. LOL!

:heeheehee

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 01:49 PM
New rule of thumb ... Everything I say is a joke unless I preface it by saying "yea I affirm".

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 01:52 PM
We didn't know. You weren't smiling in your avatar. LOL!

Ah-ah! So that's why Timmy's Avatar has that silly smile!?

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 01:52 PM
New rule of thumb ... Everything I say is a joke unless I preface it by saying "yea I affirm".

Or, "so let it be written". :heeheehee

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 01:53 PM
Ah-ah! So that's why Timmy's Avatar has that silly smile!?

That's how he gets away with so many posts and topics, I think. :heeheehee

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 01:56 PM
Or, "so let it be written". :heeheehee

Or "Verily, verily".

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 02:02 PM
Or "Verily, verily".
That's kinda pushing it. I can't see you in a robe and sandals. :heeheehee

Timmy
04-04-2012, 02:08 PM
That's how he gets away with so many posts and topics, I think. :heeheehee

Uh oh. My secret is out. :lol

Margies3
04-04-2012, 02:23 PM
We didn't know. You weren't smiling in your avatar. LOL!

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j147/margies3/SteveHoover.jpg

He's not? Looks like he's smiling to me!

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 02:23 PM
Uh oh. My secret is out. :lol

:toofunny

Opposition always comes across so well when you are happy, happy, happy!!! :heeheehee

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 02:24 PM
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j147/margies3/SteveHoover.jpg

He's not? Looks like he's smiling to me!

:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

Smiling AND no wrinkles!!!

Margies3
04-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Bro Robbins,
I have a question for you - You said you are a pastor. Are you the kind of pastor who would serve your church even if it meant you had to work a full time job outside of the church in order to provide for your family?

And I think I understood from someone on here that you have a son? Is that right? And you are not passionate about him??? Wow, would just leave me stunned. I don't know how anyone can be a parent and not be passionate about their children. Am I the only one who feels that way?

And I have to tell you - I would not have said I was "passionate" about my husband until the day came that I very nearly lost him to death. Since then, I have found out just exactly how passionate I do feel about him.

mfblume
04-04-2012, 02:28 PM
I am passionate about spiritual maturity for myself and the folks to whom I minister.

Margies3
04-04-2012, 02:36 PM
:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

Smiling AND no wrinkles!!!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Would that we could all accomplish so easily, eh!

Pressing-On
04-04-2012, 02:41 PM
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Would that we could all accomplish so easily, eh!

:thumbsup

AreYouReady?
04-04-2012, 02:41 PM
It was a joke. Saying I am passionate about not being passionate.


We didn't know. You weren't smiling in your avatar. LOL!

Ok duh! That's why I didn't get the joke. :)

Bro. Robbins
04-04-2012, 02:57 PM
Bro Robbins,
I have a question for you - You said you are a pastor. Are you the kind of pastor who would serve your church even if it meant you had to work a full time job outside of the church in order to provide for your family?

And I think I understood from someone on here that you have a son? Is that right? And you are not passionate about him??? Wow, would just leave me stunned. I don't know how anyone can be a parent and not be passionate about their children. Am I the only one who feels that way?

And I have to tell you - I would not have said I was "passionate" about my husband until the day came that I very nearly lost him to death. Since then, I have found out just exactly how passionate I do feel about him.

Sorry, but you misread some things... and if I gave any wrong impression, I apologize.

I have pastored, meaning Associate, Music Pastor, Staff Pastor and Executive Pastor, but have never been a Senior Pastor. I"m not qualified to pastor as I'm a single man and don't meet the Scriptural requirements. I do not currently pastor in any capacity and haven't for some time, so not sure where you got that.

I am a minister, and yes I work a full time secular job as well as ministerial duties. In most of my ministerial duties, I have been bi-vocational.

I do not have a son, never married, and no children. Have lived alone for 17 years.

I never said that I wasn't passionate in how I approach some things in my life... I would say that I am.

The question of the thread wasn't, is there anything you do passionately... It's What IS YOUR PASSION.

You can do things passionately, but not have any passions in your life. And that's me. There are things I will do with all my soul, mind and strength... as unto the Lord, but they certainly are not Passions in my life.

MissBrattified
04-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Sorry, but you misread some things... and if I gave any wrong impression, I apologize.

I have pastored, meaning Associate, Music Pastor, Staff Pastor and Executive Pastor, but have never been a Senior Pastor. I"m not qualified to pastor as I'm a single man and don't meet the Scriptural requirements. I do not currently pastor in any capacity and haven't for some time, so not sure where you got that.

I am a minister, and yes I work a full time secular job as well as ministerial duties. In most of my ministerial duties, I have been bi-vocational.

I do not have a son, never married, and no children. Have lived alone for 17 years.

I never said that I wasn't passionate in how I approach some things in my life... I would say that I am.

The question of the thread wasn't, is there anything you do passionately... It's What IS YOUR PASSION.

You can do things passionately, but not have any passions in your life. And that's me. There are things I will do with all my soul, mind and strength... as unto the Lord, but they certainly are not Passions in my life.

I am SO confused about what "passion" means to you. :blink How do YOU define it? I don't care about what your friend said....

Jay
04-04-2012, 03:46 PM
Bro. Robbins, I would like to give a slightly better definition of passion than the one that your friend gave.

A passion is an intense interest in a person, place, or thing.

I would say that you are a man with many passions, but that they do not govern every waking moment. First would be a passion for God and His service. Second would be living a holy life. Third would be spreading the message through the preaching of His Word. Fourth would be reading (your comment about books made that obvious). Fifth would be a passion for people, their emotions, and interests.

I would say that it all depends on how a person defines their passions.

AreYouReady?
04-04-2012, 05:31 PM
If I did not have any passions in life, why would I be interested in knowing what other people are passionate about?

Hoovie
04-04-2012, 06:19 PM
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j147/margies3/SteveHoover.jpg

He's not? Looks like he's smiling to me!


Verily verily!!

RandyWayne
04-05-2012, 03:07 PM
Sorry, but you misread some things... and if I gave any wrong impression, I apologize.

I have pastored, meaning Associate, Music Pastor, Staff Pastor and Executive Pastor, but have never been a Senior Pastor. I"m not qualified to pastor as I'm a single man and don't meet the Scriptural requirements. I do not currently pastor in any capacity and haven't for some time, so not sure where you got that.

I am a minister, and yes I work a full time secular job as well as ministerial duties. In most of my ministerial duties, I have been bi-vocational.

I do not have a son, never married, and no children. Have lived alone for 17 years.

I never said that I wasn't passionate in how I approach some things in my life... I would say that I am.

The question of the thread wasn't, is there anything you do passionately... It's What IS YOUR PASSION.

You can do things passionately, but not have any passions in your life. And that's me. There are things I will do with all my soul, mind and strength... as unto the Lord, but they certainly are not Passions in my life.

I am SO confused about what "passion" means to you. :blink How do YOU define it? I don't care about what your friend said....

Bro Robinson, you remind me of Frodo for some reason.

"Before you came along, we Bagginses were very well thought of. Never had any adventures or did anything unexpected."

And yet Mr Frodo proved to be VERY passionate about his beliefs, faith in his friends, and doing the right thing in the end.

Jay
04-06-2012, 12:39 PM
Bro Robinson, you remind me of Frodo for some reason.

"Before you came along, we Bagginses were very well thought of. Never had any adventures or did anything unexpected."

And yet Mr Frodo proved to be VERY passionate about his beliefs, faith in his friends, and doing the right thing in the end.


A most excellent point.

Bro. Robbins
04-06-2012, 12:42 PM
Bro Robinson, you remind me of Frodo for some reason.

"Before you came along, we Bagginses were very well thought of. Never had any adventures or did anything unexpected."

And yet Mr Frodo proved to be VERY passionate about his beliefs, faith in his friends, and doing the right thing in the end.


My name isn't Robinson... but I suppose you were talking to me. I have no idea what a Frodo is or what your talking about... so I've read your post a dozen times and don't understand it.

I will say though, I framed the discusion from the beginning under a specific definition that was given to me as to what a Passion is. So, I wasn't asking about what things you are passionate about, but what is your Passion. A person can be interpreted as acting passionate about things, but it in all honesty not be their passion once you talk to them and ask.

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 12:47 PM
My name isn't Robinson... but I suppose you were talking to me. I have no idea what a Frodo is or what your talking about... so I've read your post a dozen times and don't understand it.

I will say though, I framed the discusion from the beginning under a specific definition that was given to me as to what a Passion is. So, I wasn't asking about what things you are passionate about, but what is your Passion. A person can be interpreted as acting passionate about things, but it in all honesty not be their passion once you talk to them and ask.

So under your defination would you say that farming qualifies as a passion for me? Just curious.

MissBrattified
04-06-2012, 12:49 PM
I am SO confused about what "passion" means to you. :blink How do YOU define it? I don't care about what your friend said....

Yep, I still haven't received clarification either.

Cindy
04-06-2012, 12:50 PM
So under your defination would you say that farming qualifies as a passion for me? Just curious.

No, you're just weird. :heeheehee

RandyWayne
04-06-2012, 12:57 PM
My name isn't Robinson... but I suppose you were talking to me. I have no idea what a Frodo is or what your talking about... so I've read your post a dozen times and don't understand it.

I will say though, I framed the discusion from the beginning under a specific definition that was given to me as to what a Passion is. So, I wasn't asking about what things you are passionate about, but what is your Passion. A person can be interpreted as acting passionate about things, but it in all honesty not be their passion once you talk to them and ask.

Oops, sorry. I knew that and somehow still typed it Robinson instead of Robbins.

About Frodo, I won't go into who he is because there probably isn't a point. It doesn't surprise me though because my dad has a cousin (the same age as him) who as late as 1990, had no idea who John Wayne was. LOL

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 01:01 PM
No, you're just weird. :heeheehee

Thank Goodness! For a moment I was afraid I was passionate. :heeheehee

KeptByTheWord
04-06-2012, 01:03 PM
No, you're just weird. :heeheehee

I guess we all are, according to Bro. Robbins... :heeheehee If we want to joke in a serious discussion, we don't have manners. If we claim to be passionate about the Lord, he still isn't happy with that.... soo.... I guess, according to him, we are all just plain weird... :nod

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 01:07 PM
I guess we all are, according to Bro. Robbins... :heeheehee If we want to joke in a serious discussion, we don't have manners. If we claim to be passionate about the Lord, he still isn't happy with that.... soo.... I guess, according to him, we are all just plain weird... :nod

Well... for some of you that may be a big shocker... but when one milks cows for fun being called wierd is just part of everyday life. :)

RandyWayne
04-06-2012, 01:14 PM
I started making a list of what I am "passionate" about a few times here but never posted because it always turns out to be nothing more than a list of my hobbies. So maybe I don't have true passion either, but a lot of interests (some of which come and go) -which I find very fulfilling in and of themselves. :)

Bro. Robbins
04-06-2012, 01:14 PM
Yep, I still haven't received clarification either.

The point of this thread isn't my definition of passion, that's for another discussion. The point of the thread was, according to the definition given to me (stated in the first post) and that framing of what a passion is, I don't have one and it seemed to take the guy off guard.

You can BE PERCEIVED as being passionate about some things by others, but still in your heart you know that those things really aren't your passion. Only you know if your PERCEIVED PASSIONATE actions are being appropriately interpreted.

I have no idea if the Titus Woman has a PASSION for farming... only she does. But it would be presumptive of me to interpret her passionate seeming actions as being the presence of a passion. Calling someone's action or reaction passionate is very subjective, and no fact can be built upon it. Only she knows if it is indeed her passion.

I submit that under the framing of the definition given is what I was curious of people's responses.

Bro. Robbins
04-06-2012, 01:16 PM
I started making a list of what I am "passionate" about a few times here but never posted because it always turns out to be nothing more than a list of my hobbies. So maybe I don't have true passion either, but a lot of interests (some of which come and go) -which I find very fulfilling in and of themselves. :)

And that would describe me about a number of things... there are things I might like, enjoy, and find even fulfilling, but none of them are a Passion to me (within the definition of Passion my acquaintance provided).

I still submit, that very few people in this world really have a PASSION, but most have things they enjoy, find fullfilling, and like to do. I submit that a having a PASSION, is a luxury that few get to enjoy.

RandyWayne
04-06-2012, 01:18 PM
And that would describe me about a number of things... there are things I might like, enjoy, and find even fulfilling, but none of them are a Passion to me (within the definition of Passion my acquaintance provided).

I still submit, that very few people in this world really have a PASSION, but most have things they enjoy, find fullfilling, and like to do. I submit that a having a PASSION, is a luxury that few get to enjoy.

I agree. I pretty much understood your point of view on this from the first post or two.

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 01:49 PM
The point of this thread isn't my definition of passion, that's for another discussion. The point of the thread was, according to the definition given to me (stated in the first post) and that framing of what a passion is, I don't have one and it seemed to take the guy off guard.

You can BE PERCEIVED as being passionate about some things by others, but still in your heart you know that those things really aren't your passion. Only you know if your PERCEIVED PASSIONATE actions are being appropriately interpreted.

I have no idea if the Titus Woman has a PASSION for farming... only she does. But it would be presumptive of me to interpret her passionate seeming actions as being the presence of a passion. Calling someone's action or reaction passionate is very subjective, and no fact can be built upon it. Only she knows if it is indeed her passion.

I submit that under the framing of the definition given is what I was curious of people's responses.

Wow. Well I'm not sure what I have learned about passions of the lack thereof in this thread but I have learned one thing for sure... I am blissfully shallow. I never, ever, ever examine something so deeply from a flippant comment made by an aquaintence. To get my attention enough to make me question myself like this would almost take an intervention... Maybe I need therapy :D

Cindy
04-06-2012, 02:28 PM
I guess we all are, according to Bro. Robbins... :heeheehee If we want to joke in a serious discussion, we don't have manners. If we claim to be passionate about the Lord, he still isn't happy with that.... soo.... I guess, according to him, we are all just plain weird... :nod

Yep, I don't mind being weird. :happydance

Cindy
04-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Wow. Well I'm not sure what I have learned about passions of the lack thereof in this thread but I have learned one thing for sure... I am blissfully shallow. I never, ever, ever examine something so deeply from a flippant comment made by an aquaintence. To get my attention enough to make me question myself like this would almost take an intervention... Maybe I need therapy :D

:toofunny

RandyWayne
04-06-2012, 03:02 PM
Yep, I don't mind being weird. :happydance

I just never want to be strange.

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 03:13 PM
I just never want to be strange.

Too Late! Bahawawhahahaha!

The Matt
04-06-2012, 05:14 PM
I don't really have a passion, outside of Christ. The passion of the Christ...has a ring to it.

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 05:19 PM
I don't really have a passion, outside of Christ. The passion of the Christ...has a ring to it.


Been missin' you Matt man! :)

MissBrattified
04-06-2012, 05:29 PM
And that would describe me about a number of things... there are things I might like, enjoy, and find even fulfilling, but none of them are a Passion to me (within the definition of Passion my acquaintance provided).

I still submit, that very few people in this world really have a PASSION, but most have things they enjoy, find fullfilling, and like to do. I submit that a having a PASSION, is a luxury that few get to enjoy.

So you DO view a passion as an emotion you must feel, e.g., if you're missing a strong emotion, you believe you are also missing passion.

Hoovie
04-06-2012, 05:42 PM
So you DO view a passion as an emotion you must feel, e.g., if you're missing a strong emotion, you believe you are also missing passion.

What I find odd is that you believe you have no passion for God and/or that it is OKAY not to have a passion for God. :blink

When he started thread I sort of presumed the Reverend precluded our passion for Jesus. Kind of like when someone asks, "If you could have dinner with anyone who ever lived, who would it be?". It sort of assumes all Christians would say Christ as a first choice and is asking beyond that.

AreYouReady?
04-06-2012, 06:09 PM
Perhaps we are not understanding Bro. Robbins initial question, which was this:

An acquaintance of mine asked the question of a group of us, "What is your Passion?"

I asked them, what is your definition for Passion, cause that can mean so many things to so many people. They said, "A passion is an intense drive that one has for a particular thing or activity. It consumes your thoughts during your down time if it's not your occupation. When people ask you what you're passionate about, you don't have to think about it."

I had to think about my "passion" which really is not a passion according to this definition because I had to think about it.

His answer was in accordance to that definition they gave him. He was honest in that he did not really have any passion according to that definition. Do any of us have that intense drive and/or fervent passion that we hoped to have in Christ or any other place or subject? Are we really honest about it? Do we get home from work and open up our Bibles and study and pray for hours on end each day until bedtime? That, to me would be an example to the definition his acquaintance put forth to him. I am ashamed to say that although I love God, I do not have a passion for Him in accordance to this definition. Should I have this passion. You bet. Christ had this passion. The disciples had this passion for God. They did not even want to wait tables because it took them away from study and prayer.

I am sure that there might be some people out there who would have this sort of passion, but would be hesitant to display that passion in today's world. Our society has changed that definition of passion to another word...fanatic. Fanatic is a word used to disrespect a person who would be passionate about religion or politics, or I suppose about any subject.

Why is it, that in this world, one can be passionate about sports, but if they spend much of their time praying and seeking God, they would be considered a fanatic by some?

The Matt
04-06-2012, 06:36 PM
Been missin' you Matt man! :)

Miss you much too T2W, IDK what's been wrong with me, things just haven't been peaking my interest lately. I just started a new job, may have something to do with it.

Jay
04-06-2012, 07:16 PM
My name isn't Robinson... but I suppose you were talking to me. I have no idea what a Frodo is or what your talking about... so I've read your post a dozen times and don't understand it.

I will say though, I framed the discusion from the beginning under a specific definition that was given to me as to what a Passion is. So, I wasn't asking about what things you are passionate about, but what is your Passion. A person can be interpreted as acting passionate about things, but it in all honesty not be their passion once you talk to them and ask.


I would recommend that you read the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit which were written by J.R.R. Tolkien. That would explain quite a bit of the conversation.




I have heard people who sound a lot like Gollum when the talk about some of their possessions. "Precious, my Precious."

houston
04-06-2012, 07:39 PM
passionless here, like some of yall's marriages.

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 09:06 PM
passionless here, like some of yall's marriages.


Not here... I've got to say that even after 28 years of use Don is still smokin' hot :D Boy did I marry up!

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 09:11 PM
Do we get home from work and open up our Bibles and study and pray for hours on end each day until bedtime? That, to me would be an example to the definition his acquaintance put forth to him.


Ummm, no... but I sang a booming rendition of 'It Is Well With My Soul' and 'How Great Thou Art' to my cows during milking tonight... Does that count? :)

Scott Hutchinson
04-06-2012, 09:13 PM
I have two daughters so I must have some passion and I'm still married.

AreYouReady?
04-06-2012, 09:26 PM
Ummm, no... but I sang a booming rendition of 'It Is Well With My Soul' and 'How Great Thou Art' to my cows during milking tonight... Does that count? :)

Ah...a double passion eh? :lol

Did you synchronize the squirts of milk into the bucket with the notes? :heeheehee

Titus2woman
04-06-2012, 10:02 PM
Ah...a double passion eh? :lol

Did you synchronize the squirts of milk into the bucket with the notes? :heeheehee

Yes. I only sing slow songs to Buttercup because she loves human interaction and carefully munches her grain in a picking the best bits first while I hand milk her.

Petunia on the other hand is all business and vacuums her feed and pulls back on the head gate ready to get out. I usually sing peppy Broadway show tunes to her or turn the radio on the country station while I slap the milk machine on her. At 5 gallons in 6 minutes it is exponentially faster than me.

RandyWayne
04-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Yes. I only sing slow songs to Buttercup because she loves human interaction and carefully munches her grain in a picking the best bits first while I hand milk her.

Petunia on the other hand is all business and vacuums her feed and pulls back on the head gate ready to get out. I usually sing peppy Broadway show tunes to her or turn the radio on the country station while I slap the milk machine on her. At 5 gallons in 6 minutes it is exponentially faster than me.

So Petunia's theme song would be America from West Side Story.

AreYouReady?
04-06-2012, 11:03 PM
I thought maybe it would be the "rumble" part.

Sherri
04-08-2012, 07:24 PM
Global Missions!

The Matt
04-08-2012, 07:57 PM
Thinking this over, I do have a passion. It's my passion to set a good Godly example to my Godchild, instead of the life I was living. If he would have seen me the way I was growing up, he wouldn't have been very proud of his old Nonk. He has it pretty hard, having a lesbian couple as parents (a mommy and a daddy from what he knows.) But by God's mighty hand, I'm going to show him how to grow up in a Godly manner.