Questions About Parkway Apostolic Church In Wiscon

[Michael The Disciple]

Anyone familiar with this Church?

[Michael The Disciple]

A guy on Paltalk wanted me to view this video. He would not tell me what Church it was. I notice the worship leader addresses "Parkway". I have heard of the Parkway Apostolic Church different times so I assume this is it.

http://www.endtimesministry.com/worship/

I have some questions about their doctrine if anyone knows their current beliefs.

I did enjoy the video.

[Praxeas]

Parkway is or was UPC. They are or were at the forefront of the cell group network...if this is the same parkway Im thinking of

[Praxeas]

http://www.parkwaychurch.ws/

[Praxeas]

Yeah I think that is them. I seen banners in the video that match the "purposes" they have on their website

[Michael The Disciple]

Thanks for your help Prax. The guy who gave me this link endtimesministry.com/
was wanting me to watch the praise video which I did and enjoyed. But as I was looking at the endtimesministry web site I took for granted it was put up by Parkway.

I noticed on the site there was a category for "Eschatology". I clicked on it and was surprised to find teachings by William Miller and Jason Dulle who are post trib teachers. I thought this strange because I had heard Parkway was a pre trib Church.

Then I noticed on the web page Lesson#12 a teaching called "From The Tribulation To Heaven". This was a video made by a Pre trib teacher assuring souls they would escape the trib.

I thought how odd to present two different viewpoints on a web site called "endtimeministry".

On further searching I found a short teaching by Parkway Pastor Tamel confirming the pretrib stance.

Now here is my question about this Church to anyone who knows their current beliefs. I had it from several sources that Parkway teaches the doctrine of the resurrection in the so called for lack of a clearer phrase "soul sleep" version.

On The Parkway site in an article called "The Mansions In Heaven" he SEEMS to still hold that.

Anyone go there? Know for sure?

Hmmm just noticed one of their Pastors has a beard. Cool!

[Michael The Disciple]

Here is the article "Mansions In Heaven" by Frank Tamel.

The Mansions in Heaven are the Lord’s Community Over Which He Reigns
There is much in the Bible on judgment and justice, “For the Lord cometh to judge
the world and the people with his truth,” Psalm 93:13. People are accountable to
God; good deeds are commended and evil deeds are condemned.
The Day of Judgment is a combination of the whole process at the end of the world’s
order. God will judge all people. Every secret thing, good or bad will be brought to
justice, Ecclesiastes 12:14. There are various judgments but the most significant for
our consideration is the judgment of every mortal being at the unparalleled epoch of
God’s wrath. All our thoughts, words, and deeds are supernaturally recorded in the
“Lamb’s Book of Life” and God requires absolutely “no time” to make his
determination. It is going to be, “Well done faithful servant, enter into thy rest” or it
can be “Depart from me, ye worker of iniquity, I never knew you.”
The true Christian seeks after immortality by living according to God’s Word, for
there is no condemnation for those that are in Christ, Romans 8:1. To put trust in
Jesus Christ is to pass from death to life, knowing we will receive crowns on that last
day.
For those who are earnestly looking for the “catching away of the church” as the
next event on God’s calendar, the “taking up of the church” in Thessalonians 4
appears to be a reasonable conclusion. However, there is more to consider.
Jesus told his disciples in Matthew 24:31, “The son of man shall send his angels with
a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four
winds from one end of heaven to another.” Then twenty-five years after Matthew’s
gospel, Paul informs the Thessalonians that they not mourn over those that died in
Christ for he will bring them that are dead in Christ with him when he descends from
heaven with a shout on his apparent way to Armageddon to defeat Satan.Paul further contends that the Thessalonians, believing in the death and resurrection
of Jesus, can be assured that those who are (dead in Christ) he will bring with him;
and we that are alive at that time will not hinder that from happening, for the
resurrection of the dead in Christ is first. Then we, which are yet alive in Christ and
remaining, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to be forever with the
Lord. Therefore, don’t speculate about the order of the resurrection but comfort one
another with this promise.
In any event, my faith is in God’s promise of the resurrection of the dead in Christ. It
will not be “intermediate” but immediate and absolute. I’m looking forward to
walking hand in hand with my beautiful and lifetime helpmeet on the streets of the
heavenly Jerusalem that John says will come down to sit on the earth, Revelation
21:2,10. Going there is my profound hope and can be yours also. I have God’s
promise that the Godly relationships we have in this life will not be terminated but
continued over there. Thank you, Jesus.

This comes close to an admission of POST trib does it not?

[Jay]

It could be that they have moved toward a mid-trib postion, or like some of each position. I have enjoyed a little of Baxter's material even though I do not agree with him on much at all. I have found others to have some things to consider.

[unitedpraise10]

I have a few friends that go there, that I went to bible college with. They both said that Parkway is independant, but Parkway is currently listed as with the UPCI on the UPCI church locator. So i don't know...

[Praxeas]

I was not aware Jason committed himself to post-Trib...not that it matters really

[Sherri]

I thought they were still UPC.

[Scott Hutchinson]

https://www.parkwaychurch.ws/default.aspx?pid=196&cid=1

[Jermyn Davidson]

Peruse the teaching materials they provide and you will see marquee UPCI literature.

I am trying to open the link to their, "From Grace to Glory" lessons, but I am having difficulty.

[Michael The Disciple]

I was not aware Jason committed himself to post-Trib...not that it matters really

http://www.endtimesministry.com/eschatology/secretrapture.html


I believe the teachings of the Apostles matters.:highfive

[Michael The Disciple]

From the same site this is William Arnold, whom I mistakenly called "William Miller" earlier.

This is excellent teaching.

The Day of the Lord

by
William Arnold III
WmArnold@gmail.com



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The "day of the Lord" has been understood by some to refer to the entire Tribulation period, the second coming, and the millennial kingdom. It is my understanding, however, that this is simply a reference to the return of the Lord, the day that he comes back. Just the phrase day of the Lord is difficult for me to see as relating to the Tribulation period, which is described as a time of lawlessness (Matt. 24:12), when the "man of lawlessness" is ruling the world (2 Thess. 2:3-4) and destroying God’s people (Dan. 7:21; Rev. 13:7). If anything, this would be the day of Satan. But a closer look at the references to the day of the Lord will show not only that it does not need to include the Tribulation or the Millennium but that it is best taken to refer simply to the second coming.

When we look in the Old Testament, the day of the Lord is characterized by destruction (Isa. 13:6; Joel 1:15); fury and anger (Isa. 13:9); doom (Eze. 30:3); clouds and darkness (Eze 30:3; Amos 5:20); people trembling (Joel 2:1); retribution (Obad. 1:15); and it is said to be great and awesome (Joel 2:11; Mal. 4:5).1 These references could easily refer to the return of Christ when he comes "in flaming fire taking vengeance" (2 Thess. 1:7-8 KJV), and when people are crying out, "Hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?" (Rev. 6:16,17). Joel actually seemed to equate the day of the Lord with the battle of Armageddon (Joel 3:9-16). Also, Jesus said that the sun would turn into darkness right before he returned. This idea of darkness is routinely connected with the return of the Lord and the day of the Lord.

Alluding to Joel 2:31, Jesus said that the sun and moon will be darkened and the powers of the heavens will be shaken at his return (Matt. 24:29). Isaiah 34:4 and Revelation 6:14 add that during this time the sky is rolled up like a scroll (compare "the heavens will disappear," 2 Peter 3:10). The Old Testament ties the darkening of the sun and the moon with the stars as well in passages such as Isaiah 13:10, Ezekiel 32:7-8, and Joel 2:10; 3:15. Isaiah 60:2 states that darkness will cover the earth before the glory of the Lord appears. Joel 2:2, Zephaniah 1:15, and Amos 5:18-20 describe the day of the Lord as a day of darkness.

In the New Testament the day of the Lord is mentioned seven times, with both a positive and a negative tone. The first is Peter quoting Joel 2:31 in Acts 2:20. The next three are in the Corinthian epistles and are given as an expectation of believers. Paul says that the Corinthians were "awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will also confirm you to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Cor. 1:7-8).2 He delivered one brother to Satan "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord" (1 Cor. 5:5, NET)3 and also said that "we are your reason to be proud as you also are ours, in the day of our Lord Jesus" (2 Cor. 1:14). In all of these cases this seems to be a day they were expecting.

The next two references to the day of the Lord are in the Thessalonian epistles. The first is 1 Thessalonians 5:2, in which Paul told the believers that "you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night" (1 Thess. 5:2). Two verses later he says, "But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief" (v. 4, emphasis added). Why would he say that the day would not overtake them like a thief if it was not going to overtake them at all? In the rest of the chapter he goes on to talk about how they are of the day and of the light, not of the darkness as others. His point is that the day would not take them unexpectedly, because they knew what to look for. It seems very clear that they were expecting to see this day. The day of the Lord in 2 Thessalonians 2:2 and in 2 Peter 3:10 as well seems to be something that they were expecting.

Furthermore, the New Testament also refers to the day of Christ as a hope for believers. Some have tried to make this a different event from the day of the Lord, but as we saw, 1 Corinthians 1:8 makes reference to the "day of our Lord Jesus Christ," while 2 Corinthians 1:14 refers to the "day of the Lord Jesus." These seem to tie both of them together. The title Lord is used almost exclusively of Christ in the New Testament. The classic statement of faith is "Jesus Christ is Lord" (Rom. 10:9; 1 Cor. 12:3; Phil. 2:11). If Lord and Christ are the same person I find no problem with day of the Lord and day of Christ being the same event, especially when we see that it is variously referred to as day of Jesus Christ, his day, day of God, great day, day of wrath, the day, that day, day of redemption, and day of visitation.

Finally, Joel states that the great cosmic signs will take place "before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes" (Joel 2:31), and Jesus says that they will occur "immediately after the tribulation" (Mat. 24:29). Therefore, the day of the Lord must be after the Tribulation. The second to last verse in the Old Testament says that Elijah the prophet will come before the day of the Lord (Mal. 4:5), and most see Elijah as being one of the two witnesses during the Tribulation (Rev. 11). Also, Paul states very emphatically that the day of the Lord will not come until the antichrist is revealed (2 Thess. 2:1-3).

[Michael The Disciple]

Bump, hoping someone from this Church will notice and answer my question.

Have they changed from pre trib to post?

[Michael The Disciple]

Lord willing I will watch their webcast this morning maybe I will get some answers.