Religion vs Gospel

[rgcraig]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Gospel.jpg

[Bro. Robbins]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Gospel.jpg

I like! :highfive

[Scott Hutchinson]

I like this too.

[KeptByTheWord]

So true, great comparisons!

[Timmy]

Yeah, because a religion that tells you to do things, and punishes you if you don't, is, like, eew! :lol

[rgcraig]

I know many "like" it, but do they really agree with it when the rubber hits the road?

[AreYouReady?]

I know many "like" it, but do they really agree with it when the rubber hits the road?

I agree because there were times when religion did not use gospel principles.

[berkeley]

I know many "like" it, but do they really agree with it when the rubber hits the road?

Can't like it if you're an UCon. Just sayin...

[Jack Shephard]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Gospel.jpg

I hate religion! It has ruined me...

[Bro. Robbins]

I absolutely agree... religion will never set a man's soul free, will never provide ransom needed to pay the debt of sin... only the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ can change a life....

[rgcraig]

I hate religion! It has ruined me...

Not ruined - - just presented challenges for you to overcome.

[berkeley]

I hate religion! It has ruined me...

Mhm, drink your tea, dear.

[Hoovie]

Can't like it if you're an UCon. Just sayin...

Not sure I agree. At least not across the board. I know some very conservative Christians who are Christ-centered, graceful and motivated by love.

[Jack Shephard]

Not ruined - - just presented challenges for you to overcome.

Well...maybe...but so far....not happening and by so far I mean so far = many years.

[Jack Shephard]

Mhm, drink your tea, dear.

I don't drink tea...it's water or beer.


:spit

[berkeley]

I don't drink tea...it's water or beer.


:spit

water, beer, synonymous...

-Jack Daniel

[Praxeas]

Change "Religion" to "Works based religion" and "Gospel" to "Grace based Religion" and it would be more correct.


1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion?s=t

[Praxeas]

Religion, Faith in Christ, has made me a better person. Thank you Jesus!

[Jack Shephard]

water, beer, synonymous...

-Jack Daniel

Saporro!

[RiverMorgaine]

Amen!

My church is having a revival this week, and the theme is "Jesus Beyond Religion!" Between Jesus and religion, GIVE ME JESUS!

[commonsense]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Gospel.jpg


And add this from Praxeus:

Change "Religion" to "Works based religion" and "Gospel" to "Grace based Religion" and it would be more correct.


:thumbsup

[Jay]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/Gospel.jpg



This is entirely subjective based upon the point of view that one is coming from. Hypothetically according to this, one could be living the 'Gospel' and be accused of living according to 'Religion'. This leaves the entire premise on the shaky ground of man's opinion and philosophy instead of the solid grounding on the Word of God.



I know that this was meant to be fun, but I feel there is a principle here.

[bbyrd009]

This is entirely subjective based upon the point of view that one is coming from. Hypothetically according to this, one could be living the 'Gospel' and be accused of living according to 'Religion'. This leaves the entire premise on the shaky ground of man's opinion and philosophy instead of the solid grounding on the Word of God.



I know that this was meant to be fun, but I feel there is a principle here.

Hmm, I'm feeling principle is the whole point here. If you had to pick the one you're least comfortable with, which might it be?

[Jay]

Hmm, I'm feeling principle is the whole point here. If you had to pick the one you're least comfortable with, which might it be?


That would be my opinion only and therefore subjective. Any experience that we have with God must be based on an objective standard. Therefore, anytime that my feelings are allowed to influence my decision regarding an issue of right or wrong, then I have left the path and am now following my own selfish will and desires.

[RevDWW]

Obeying the Gospel should lead to pure religion:

(Jas 1:26) If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

(Jas 1:27) Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

[Jay]

Obeying the Gospel should lead to prue religion:


Huh??

[AreYouReady?]

Oh come on Jay. You know he meant pure. :)

[Jay]

Oh come on Jay. You know he meant pure. :)


I figured that I would give him a bit of time to fix it. It is not my fault that I have a warped sense of humor that makes me do that. Further, it could be pure or true depending on the way wants to read it.

:p

[RevDWW]

Obeying the Gospel should lead to pure religion:

(Jas 1:26) If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

(Jas 1:27) Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Huh??

Oh come on Jay. You know he meant pure. :)

I figured that I would give him a bit of time to fix it. It is not my fault that I have a warped sense of humor that makes me do that. Further, it could be pure or true depending on the way wants to read it.

:p
All fixed......pure as ivory snow...:heeheehee

[Jay]

All fixed......pure as ivory snow...:heeheehee

It looks fine to me sir. You have rendered it comprhensible.:highfive

[bbyrd009]

That would be my opinion only and therefore subjective. Any experience that we have with God must be based on an objective standard. Therefore, anytime that my feelings are allowed to influence my decision regarding an issue of right or wrong, then I have left the path and am now following my own selfish will and desires.

Ok, like the "religion" thing, I wonder how much of my disagreement here is gonna be semantics, but I have to argue this, and suggest that you are gonna help; as demonstrated in your first sentence, your opinion is all you have.

If the...stuff after the bolded = the bolded, then BAM, leave the path!
Any genuine experience we have with God must be based on a subjective standard; until then you are talking about someone else's God.

BAM, get your emotions under you, but see that "Abba" is not objective?

[bbyrd009]

(Come to the dark side, Jay : )

[Jay]

(Come to the dark side, Jay : )


I am the darkside! There is nothing to come over to.

[bbyrd009]

I am the darkside! There is nothing to come over to.
Ha, I love you, Jay; but you are about as white-bread as it gets, lol.

[Jay]

Ok, like the "religion" thing, I wonder how much of my disagreement here is gonna be semantics, but I have to argue this, and suggest that you are gonna help; as demonstrated in your first sentence, your opinion is all you have.

If the...stuff after the bolded = the bolded, then BAM, leave the path!
Any genuine experience we have with God must be based on a subjective standard; until then you are talking about someone else's God.

BAM, get your emotions under you, but see that "Abba" is not objective?


I had to wait for a bit as I was tied down for a while, but I will now respond.

I do not base a relationship with God on an opinion that I created for myself. I accept the Bible as the Word of God, and it is then by its objective standards that I must be judged. My opinions about morality and standards are pointless. However, because of the objective principles that are in the Bible, I must then bring my opinions into harmony with it. Thus my personal opinions and preferences are irrelevant.

[Jay]

Ha, I love you, Jay; but you are about as white-bread as it gets, lol.


Tell that to some of my friends! :highfive

[bbyrd009]

...I do not base a relationship with God on an opinion that I created for myself. I accept the Bible as the Word of God, and it is then by its objective standards that I must be judged. My opinions about morality and standards are pointless. However, because of the objective principles that are in the Bible, I must then bring my opinions into harmony with it. Thus my personal opinions and preferences are irrelevant.

HA!

[bbyrd009]

Tell that to some of my friends! :highfive

lol, hey, I'm so white, my crust is white...

[Jay]

lol, hey, I'm so white, my crust is white...


When I work too many third shifts in a row, people start making vampire jokes. That is how pale I am. However, I am also well known for having a darker sense of humor.

[bbyrd009]

prolly a good mix lol.