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Big Dummy
04-13-2012, 08:36 AM
Have you ever visited a church and ran into odd situations related to tongues?
One person would give a long speech in tongues and the interpretation would be very short or a short message in tongues produces a long interpretation?
Someone takes you in the back room and says now repeat after me "jaba ..." called "priming the pump".
You know a second language and you never hear that language during a tongues worship section.
Your unbelieving friends speaks other languages and they never hear their native language spoken.
Nothing you hear even resembles a language of anykind.
You are open to any of God's gifts and you don't want to fake it, nor do you desire to "quench" the Spirit.
Where or What are the boundries and rules for determining if the tongues you are hearing are of God?
RandyWayne
04-13-2012, 08:45 AM
There have been plenty of times where I have heard tongues spoken and it actually resembled something that had some grammar to it but then there have been many others where the person is doing nothing more then going "la la la la la la la la".
As far as the length of a message versus the translation goes, this is something that Hollywood has been making fun of for most of a century. Just watch some old Loony Toons cartoon where Bugs talks to some natives. He talks in their language for about 10-12 seconds and the subtitle says "Hello!", then he grunts one or two short words and a whole paragraph of subtitles appear. While it is funny there is actually SOME truth to this based on how much meaning is assigned to a word. Sometimes one word in Japanese does take a whole sentence to say in English.
KWSS1976
04-13-2012, 08:51 AM
Yea I have yet to hear it done as it was on the day of pentecost,not to mention all the tongues from behind the pulpit...It clearly states not to speak in tongues unless someone understands what yo are saying and I have no idea what anyone says when they speak in tongues which goes against scripture specially in Acts when it was clearly understood by the onlookers..
KWSS1976
04-13-2012, 08:52 AM
I guess my biggest beef is the tongues and how improperly they are used in the church setting
KWSS1976
04-13-2012, 09:01 AM
Corithians clearly tells one how and when to speak with tongues..
Titus2woman
04-13-2012, 10:51 AM
I guess my biggest beef is the tongues and how improperly they are used in the church setting
I share your beef.
PASTOR'S WIFE
04-13-2012, 10:56 AM
Just for clarification: Translation and Interpretation are 2 different things. Translation would be word for word but interpretation could be condensed or lengthened to relay what God has spoken to the church. So interpretation of tongues is what is done in most churches. God uses our mouth and our vocabularily to get the message across.
bbyrd009
04-13-2012, 11:50 AM
I believe that is true, and that there are genuine tongues. I also have witnessed BD's version, and believe that satan has gone to great lengths to obscure the truth in "tongues."
I can't help but associate "Is that really tongues?" with "Am I really high?"
You will know real tongues when you hear it, and you prolly have not heard it.
It will come from a Church that can demo genuine healing-
not to imply that they don't exist.
Sorry, pump primers, but if you are open, you are not going to be able to stop a genuine experience of speaking in tongues, which Paul will tell you should hardly be at the top of your list.
bbyrd009
04-13-2012, 11:53 AM
Yea I have yet to hear it done as it was on the day of pentecost,not to mention all the tongues from behind the pulpit...It clearly states not to speak in tongues unless someone understands what yo are saying and I have no idea what anyone says when they speak in tongues which goes against scripture specially in Acts when it was clearly understood by the onlookers..
I guess my biggest beef is the tongues and how improperly they are used in the church setting
I share your beef.
I like beef : )
but see no reason now to prune a dead tree,
if that is in fact what it is.
Pressing-On
04-13-2012, 11:53 AM
Yea I have yet to hear it done as it was on the day of pentecost,not to mention all the tongues from behind the pulpit...It clearly states not to speak in tongues unless someone understands what yo are saying and I have no idea what anyone says when they speak in tongues which goes against scripture specially in Acts when it was clearly understood by the onlookers..
Actually, the operative word in I Corinthians 14:5 is "rather".
I Corinthians 14:5 "I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying."
The Greek definition for "rather" is "mallon: more, in a greater degree.
So, the passage is not forbidding to speak in tongues, it is continuing the instruction that began in verse one, expounds more in verses 12, 13, 39 and 40, when it says:
I Corinthians 14:1 "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy."
14:12 "Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church."
14:13 "Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14:39 "Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues."
14:40 "Let all things be done decently and in order."
Desire, seek, excel, covet, and pray for spiritual gifts, but forbid not to speak in tongues. Do everything decent and in order.
It's really very simple. It's only ridiculous when the gifts are not in operation and I believe that many do not understand that they can pray to receive them.
Titus2woman
04-13-2012, 12:20 PM
14:40 "Let all things be done decently and in order."
I will not give examples of things I have seen in Pentecostal churches lest I be accused of mocking other's worship... But 'decently and in order' would in no wise be used to describe them... and many of these involved 'tongues'.
Pressing-On
04-13-2012, 12:38 PM
14:40 "Let all things be done decently and in order."
I will not give examples of things I have seen in Pentecostal churches lest I be accused of mocking other's worship... But 'decently and in order' would in no wise be used to describe them... and many of these involved 'tongues'.
I am very sure we could put our heads together and share stories. People are people. Some are more emotional and some are more stubborn and some are more... and some are more...
But, at the end of the day, we don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The Word gives us instruction and the privilege of participating in the NT church, which is a spiritual body. Nothing could be more grand than that, IMO.
Esther
04-13-2012, 01:01 PM
Actually, the operative word in I Corinthians 14:5 is "rather".
The Greek definition for "rather" is "mallon: more, in a greater degree.
So, the passage is not forbidding to speak in tongues, it is continuing the instruction that began in verse one, expounds more in verses 12, 13, 39 and 40, when it says:
Desire, seek, excel, covet, and pray for spiritual gifts, but forbid not to speak in tongues. Do everything decent and in order.
It's really very simple. It's only ridiculous when the gifts are not in operation and I believe that many do not understand that they can pray to receive them.
:thumbsup Well said.
Have you ever visited a church and ran into odd situations related to tongues?
One person would give a long speech in tongues and the interpretation would be very short or a short message in tongues produces a long interpretation?
As I have learned a little Spanish and heard other languages spoken, I can say that there a times even when translating, much less interpreting, that it will take several words to give a clear meaning to one in the original language. Also there are words that do not translate either well or at all, which could lead to a longer discourse.
Someone takes you in the back room and says now repeat after me "jaba ..." called "priming the pump".
This is a sin. A person is deceiving another into believing that they have something which they do not. I have heard of this practice and detest it. I ask people, after I hear them claim to have spoken in tongues, if they were taught how to do so. This helps me deal with them more effectively. I know a Catholic gentleman who, on his own, prayed through. When we were discussing it, another man asked if it could be taught. We replied in unison to the negative.
You know a second language and you never hear that language during a tongues worship section.
Your unbelieving friends speaks other languages and they never hear their native language spoken.
This is the same question rephrased. The issue here is that you have more hundreds of languages that have been spoken though history and the present. Each language has multiple dialects. An example would be English. Canada, Australia, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, the United States, New Zealand are all English speaking places. However, depending where you visit, you will hear a different dialect of English. In Canada and the United States, there are subdialects depending on which part of the nation being discussed.
This is true for any language that you wish to discuss. Therefore, hearing one individual speak in a language or dialect that I or my friends might recognize should be understood to be remote.
Nothing you hear even resembles a language of anykind.
This is a horse of another color. However, having heard people speak in Chinese or Japanese, I can say that not all languages sound like the Latin/German based languages that we are familiar with. This is not to say that there are not pathetic fakes (we have seen them).
You are open to any of God's gifts and you don't want to fake it, nor do you desire to "quench" the Spirit.
Where or What are the boundries and rules for determining if the tongues you are hearing are of God?
This gets into a whole different topic, and I will endeavor to reply in more detail in a separate post.
Just for clarification: Translation and Interpretation are 2 different things. Translation would be word for word but interpretation could be condensed or lengthened to relay what God has spoken to the church. So interpretation of tongues is what is done in most churches. God uses our mouth and our vocabularily to get the message across.
This is very true. Bro. Bernard's book on the gifts of the Spirit is excellent when bringing this out and explaining it.
I am very sure we could put our heads together and share stories. People are people. Some are more emotional and some are more stubborn and some are more... and some are more...
But, at the end of the day, we don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The Word gives us instruction and the privilege of participating in the NT church, which is a spiritual body. Nothing could be more grand than that, IMO.
I have heard and seen my share of the stories that could be told. Some of them are very sad, some are horrifying, and others more amusing. However, all of them should be taken for our instruction that we must be very careful and sensitive to the Spirit when we are being used of God.
bbyrd009
04-13-2012, 01:47 PM
...It's really very simple. It's only ridiculous when the gifts are not in operation and I believe that many do not understand that they can pray to receive them.
Amen. You illuminate the proper path, imo.
...This gets into a whole different topic, and I will endeavor to reply in more detail in a separate post...
This is very true. Bro. Bernard's book on the gifts of the Spirit is excellent when bringing this out and explaining it.
Cool, I'll be reading; and I missed the ref for this book, could you name it again, ty.
Pressing-On
04-13-2012, 02:19 PM
I have heard and seen my share of the stories that could be told. Some of them are very sad, some are horrifying, and others more amusing. However, all of them should be taken for our instruction that we must be very careful and sensitive to the Spirit when we are being used of God.
Excellent! I agree! :thumbsup
Cool, I'll be reading; and I missed the ref for this book, could you name it again, ty.
The name of the book is titled Spiritual Gifts. The author is David K. Bernard. This is a discussion about the gifts of the Spirit that Paul lists in Corinthians.
As for his question concerning how to tell if certain tongues come from God...
One, outside of looking for those things that a blatantly faked, you must ask if they are giving praise and glory to Jesus Christ. This is likely the most important element as Paul tells the Corinthian church, "Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." (I Corinthians 12:3)
The best understanding is to know the Holy Ghost so well, that you can tell. Another way is to pray for the discerning of spirits. Also a strong study of I Corinthians is key to understanding what you are listening to. Lastly, nothing will be said or done that will contradict the revealed Word in Scripture.
Praxeas
04-13-2012, 03:15 PM
Yea I have yet to hear it done as it was on the day of pentecost,not to mention all the tongues from behind the pulpit...It clearly states not to speak in tongues unless someone understands what yo are saying and I have no idea what anyone says when they speak in tongues which goes against scripture specially in Acts when it was clearly understood by the onlookers..that is NOT what it says. It says if there is no interpreter (someone with that gift).
It also does not say not to speak in tongues. It says speak to your self.
Now I must ask how does one know if there is no interpreter? If one reads the context it appears this church had people speaking in tongues left and right without interpretations or everyone was speaking before the interpretation, thus Paul limited tongues to 2-3. So then after speaking in tongues by 2-3 if no interpretation came rather than others speaking in tongues they were to speak to themselves.
bbyrd009
04-13-2012, 05:10 PM
Hmm, I understood that many just desired to speak in tongues; but I can easily imagine quite a bit of..."practicing," just like today. Hmm.
And ya, can praying in tongues be "getting the Holy Spirit?"
Hmm, I understood that many just desired to speak in tongues; but I can easily imagine quite a bit of..."practicing," just like today. Hmm.
And ya, can praying in tongues be "getting the Holy Spirit?"
I am not quite sure what you are refering to by this.
If you are asking if a person who has been taught to speak in tongues eventually receive the real thing without realizing it, the answer would be yes. This has happened before, but sadly it is more unusual than otherwise.
AreYouReady?
04-13-2012, 11:27 PM
Just for clarification: Translation and Interpretation are 2 different things. Translation would be word for word but interpretation could be condensed or lengthened to relay what God has spoken to the church. So interpretation of tongues is what is done in most churches. God uses our mouth and our vocabularily to get the message across.
This makes sense to me.
AreYouReady?
04-13-2012, 11:31 PM
One time someone started laughing in church. I mean big guffaws that lasted what seemed like a long time.
What would this be called?
Being tickled?
I would say that it would depend on if they were in the Spirit before they started laughing. If so, it may be the Holy Ghost blessing them in a unique way. THis was not unheard of in the early days of Pentecost before the days of the Latter Rain and Charismatic movements.
AreYouReady?
04-14-2012, 12:52 AM
Holy laughter?
The woman said afterwards that God must have known she needed some joy in her life.
There is a difference between the true 'Holy Laughter' and that which is often promoted in the Charismatic style services. I have seen it for myself.
berkeley
04-14-2012, 01:21 AM
There is a difference between the true 'Holy Laughter' and that which is often promoted in the Charismatic style services. I have seen it for myself.
scripture please
KWSS1976
04-16-2012, 08:39 AM
that is NOT what it says. It says if there is no interpreter (someone with that gift).
It also does not say not to speak in tongues. It says speak to your self.
Now I must ask how does one know if there is no interpreter? If one reads the context it appears this church had people speaking in tongues left and right without interpretations or everyone was speaking before the interpretation, thus Paul limited tongues to 2-3. So then after speaking in tongues by 2-3 if no interpretation came rather than others speaking in tongues they were to speak to
Prax I understand your post but like this past Sunday, some were praying with others and more then 2 or 3 where speaking in "tongues", no interpretation, that is the problem I have with the whole Tongues thing if you speak in tongues to yourself no one around you will hear it or if they do it needs interpreting which very,very,very rarely happenes. I believe in tongues as it happenes in the bible,it just does not happene the same way as the bible in churches.
Hoovie
04-16-2012, 09:09 AM
So we have a "true" Holy Laughter and a false Holy Laughter?
The real truth is, once one leaves the scriptural instruction and pattern, then anything goes.
Michlow
04-16-2012, 09:16 AM
I tiptoe out of obscurity to say:
Once upon a time I heard a girl who spoke English and Spanish, speak French while praying in tongues. This was not a tongues/interpretation type situation, just in the prayer room. She was next to me, and I recognized it and with my 4 years of high school french could pick out a word hear and there, but it was mostly too fast for me to understand.
Falla39
04-16-2012, 09:42 AM
Through the years (53 yrs), many people have walked through the doors of the church my late father founded and pastored. Many young people that went to school with our church children, my siblings, myself, visited as children. They felt God's Presence but upon mentioning it to their parents, were immediately frisked off to their denominal pastor. Of course their pastor (who had never received the Holy Ghost), had the ready answers to take the Word(seed)out of their young hearts. But in the past few years, seeds that were sown many years ago, have lain in hearts, but as they grew up and matured, have come and received the Spirit as adults. Some just this year. Some the last five years. Being diagnosed with cancer, brain tumors, etc., caused some to seek something they remembered as children. They admitted denominal pastors and parents alike, fought them against the "Pentecostal" church. Just this week on Facebook, a man who is now married and has children, saw my name, and sent me a message telling me
me how "you people" influenced him as a child. Wanted to thank me for my part in that influence. I called an area bank one day and the lady that took my call, asked me if I was ???'s mother. Also spoke of the influence the church had on her as a child when she came to our SS. When she was 14 yrs old, she received the Holy Ghost and when she wanted to be baptized, her mother wouldn't allow her to come anymore. Was told by her mother that she could go to any church but the Pentecostal church. Many children came on our buses or was brought by church members (although their parents didn't/wouldn't come. The parents of several children allowed their children to come, but would never come, unless their kids had a part in a special program. When their little boy grew older, and their children started getting in trouble, they wanted our father to help them. Dad and Mom "trained up" their own eleven children "in the way they SHOULD go". He was able to pastor (shepherd) other's children for a while. But the influence of the home they lived in didn't agree with the church.
I could tell many sad stories, but I could also tell many glad stories that my late parents were never able to see. We haven't seen the end of the LORD, that HE is of much compassion and of tender mercies.
Just recently a young lady came and visited our church. She had once been very active in a local denominal church. She had moved to another state near her grandmother. She went to a "Spirit-filled" church with her grandmother, felt the Presence of God in a Powerful way. Moved back to our city and visited our church, came two weeks ago and received the Holy Ghost. GOD is bringing out of darkness, those who are hungering and thirsting for righteousness and they are being filled. When they receive the SPIRIT, they speak in other tongues, without exception.
Those who have never received the Holy Spirit/Ghost (same thing), don't need to be saying a lot about some place they have never been. You can't take others to places you've never been yourself. You can't tell people how beautiful Colorado is, IF you have not been there yourself. You can imagine from pictues, films, etc. But not the REAL thing!
Perhaps some have been vocal about things they know nothing of. Many places I have been/seen by experience, etc.
My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind.
Falla39
TGBTG
04-16-2012, 10:17 AM
Prax I understand your post but like this past Sunday, some were praying with others and more then 2 or 3 where speaking in "tongues", no interpretation, that is the problem I have with the whole Tongues thing if you speak in tongues to yourself no one around you will hear it or if they do it needs interpreting which very,very,very rarely happenes. I believe in tongues as it happenes in the bible,it just does not happene the same way as the bible in churches.
1 Cor 14
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no-one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church
13 For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says.
28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.
Speaking in tongues to God does not mean others will not hear it...it should just be private between you and God.
If I'm praying in English, others around me hear it ('cause we're standing close to each other).
If I start praying in my native language, others around will still hear it (though they won't understand what I'm saying) Should I then not be allowed to pray in my native language because someone sitting close to me will hear it?
On the flip side, should I not pray in english anymore because the guy sitting next to me in the church (who doesn't understand english) will hear me? obviously not!
Paul's point is not about others hearing it. It's about not being the public sphow of the service IF there's no interpreter.
TGBTG
04-16-2012, 10:20 AM
Through the years (53 yrs), many people have walked through the doors of the church my late father founded and pastored. Many young people that went to school with our church children, my siblings, myself, visited as children. They felt God's Presence but upon mentioning it to their parents, were immediately frisked off to their denominal pastor. Of course their pastor (who had never received the Holy Ghost), had the ready answers to take the Word(seed)out of their young hearts. But in the past few years, seeds that were sown many years ago, have lain in hearts, but as they grew up and matured, have come and received the Spirit as adults. Some just this year. Some the last five years. Being diagnosed with cancer, brain tumors, etc., caused some to seek something they remembered as children. They admitted denominal pastors and parents alike, fought them against the "Pentecostal" church. Just this week on Facebook, a man who is now married and has children, saw my name, and sent me a message telling me
me how "you people" influenced him as a child. Wanted to thank me for my part in that influence. I called an area bank one day and the lady that took my call, asked me if I was ???'s mother. Also spoke of the influence the church had on her as a child when she came to our SS. When she was 14 yrs old, she received the Holy Ghost and when she wanted to be baptized, her mother wouldn't allow her to come anymore. Was told by her mother that she could go to any church but the Pentecostal church. Many children came on our buses or was brought by church members (although their parents didn't/wouldn't come. The parents of several children allowed their children to come, but would never come, unless their kids had a part in a special program. When their little boy grew older, and their children started getting in trouble, they wanted our father to help them. Dad and Mom "trained up" their own eleven children "in the way they SHOULD go". He was able to pastor (shepherd) other's children for a while. But the influence of the home they lived in didn't agree with the church.
I could tell many sad stories, but I could also tell many glad stories that my late parents were never able to see. We haven't seen the end of the LORD, that HE is of much compassion and of tender mercies.
Just recently a young lady came and visited our church. She had once been very active in a local denominal church. She had moved to another state near her grandmother. She went to a "Spirit-filled" church with her grandmother, felt the Presence of God in a Powerful way. Moved back to our city and visited our church, came two weeks ago and received the Holy Ghost. GOD is bringing out of darkness, those who are hungering and thirsting for righteousness and they are being filled. When they receive the SPIRIT, they speak in other tongues, without exception.
Those who have never received the Holy Spirit/Ghost (same thing), don't need to be saying a lot about some place they have never been. You can't take others to places you've never been yourself. You can't tell people how beautiful Colorado is, IF you have not been there yourself. You can imagine from pictues, films, etc. But not the REAL thing!
Perhaps some have been vocal about things they know nothing of. Many places I have been/seen by experience, etc.
My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind.
Falla39
As the resident prophet of AFF, I prophesy that houston will comment on the last emboldened statement....:spit
AreYouReady?
04-16-2012, 10:38 AM
As the resident prophet of AFF, I prophesy that houston will comment on the last emboldened statement....:spit
Must be something there that I am not aware of. :dunno
Aquila
04-16-2012, 10:46 AM
Some folks fail to understand that, in most cases, interpreting tongues is an "interpretation", it's not a "translation". I've had my tongues interpreted and I've interpreted tongues. The best way to describe it will be best understood by parents. Many times a baby will cry. The cry makes no linguistic sense. However, it's not uncommon for a mommy or daddy to understand that the cry means that the baby is hungry, wants held, is uncomfortable, scared, etc. Many who don't have children often wonder, "How'd you guys know what the babby needed?" It's all in the "interpretation" of the cry. The "feeling" or the "vibe" that it brings to one who knows the baby. Same with tongues. When one speaks to the congregation in tongues one with the gift of interpretation can "sense" the meaning of the tongues. They will then use their limited human vocabulary to convey the message they are hearing in their spirit through the Holy Ghost. Therefore, "la la la" might only take two seconds... but the "interpretation" of what the Spirit of God is saying in that two seconds might take 5 minutes to interpret. Just like a baby crying "wa waaaa waaaaaa wa waaaaa" can be interpreted by a sensitive parent who knows the child as meaning, "I'm hungry. Please feed me." or "I'm wet. Please change me." or "Please hold me." or "I'm uncomfortable."
It takes deep spiritual maturity and emotion to interpret tongues. Those gifted with interpretation often pray to God repenting as to if they missed what God was trying to say, or worded it incorrectly in any way. If one isn't in tune with the Spirit... or unfocused, they can be significantly off.
It's "interpretation" not "translation".
Falla39
04-16-2012, 11:18 AM
As the resident prophet of AFF, I prophesy that houston will comment on the last emboldened statement....:spit
And, TGBTD, what is your "prophetic" comments on my post! LOL!
Falla39
TGBTG
04-16-2012, 11:20 AM
And, TGBTD, what is your "prophetic" comments on my post! LOL!
Falla39
I have no comments...:highfive
Love you Sis Falla, it's just that you and houston's "back and forth" crack me up so bad...:spit
Falla39
04-16-2012, 11:33 AM
I have no comments...:highfive
Just hoped my post did not come across as harsh or unkind.
I remember Houston making a comment about how I would say something and then add the "not intended......" etc. But I don't take Houston too seriously. I'm old enough to be his grandmother. I was once young myself. Thought my father and his mother, (my paternal grandmother) were so old foggey. I was 14 and foolish and silly. But how I have thanked GOD for my wise father and grandmother's influence in later years. Priceless!
Falla39
TGBTG
04-16-2012, 11:41 AM
Must be something there that I am not aware of. :dunno
AYR, Sis Falla's statement "My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind." is something Houston always has something to say about, and it's just so funny to me when they both go back and forth.
Now, I feel bad for "sowing discord"...:(
Falla39
04-16-2012, 11:50 AM
AYR, Sis Falla's statement "My posts are never intended to be harsh or unkind." is something Houston always has something to say about, and it's just so funny to me when they both go back and forth.
Now, I feel bad for "sowing discord"...:(
I think our posts crossed. No problem at all here!
Guess we'll find out if you "sowed discord" when Houston
gets here! :heeheehee
Falla39
Hoovie
04-16-2012, 11:54 AM
and now i will bring a moment of solace by yodeling in the spirit... stand by.
Falla39
04-16-2012, 12:18 PM
and now i will bring a moment of solace by yodeling in the spirit... stand by.
LOL! Go ahead, Bro. Hoovie, Yodel! :nod
RandyWayne
04-16-2012, 12:21 PM
I'm waiting for the first person I hear who starts ta ta taaa ta ta taa taaa ta ta'ing in morse code.
bbyrd009
04-16-2012, 12:26 PM
Hmm, I've credited Hou w/better sense, hmm...
(ta ta tata tat ta ta ta)
Some folks fail to understand that, in most cases, interpreting tongues is an "interpretation", it's not a "translation". I've had my tongues interpreted and I've interpreted tongues. The best way to describe it will be best understood by parents. Many times a baby will cry. The cry makes no linguistic sense. However, it's not uncommon for a mommy or daddy to understand that the cry means that the baby is hungry, wants held, is uncomfortable, scared, etc. Many who don't have children often wonder, "How'd you guys know what the babby needed?" It's all in the "interpretation" of the cry. The "feeling" or the "vibe" that it brings to one who knows the baby. Same with tongues. When one speaks to the congregation in tongues one with the gift of interpretation can "sense" the meaning of the tongues. They will then use their limited human vocabulary to convey the message they are hearing in their spirit through the Holy Ghost. Therefore, "la la la" might only take two seconds... but the "interpretation" of what the Spirit of God is saying in that two seconds might take 5 minutes to interpret. Just like a baby crying "wa waaaa waaaaaa wa waaaaa" can be interpreted by a sensitive parent who knows the child as meaning, "I'm hungry. Please feed me." or "I'm wet. Please change me." or "Please hold me." or "I'm uncomfortable."
It takes deep spiritual maturity and emotion to interpret tongues. Those gifted with interpretation often pray to God repenting as to if they missed what God was trying to say, or worded it incorrectly in any way. If one isn't in tune with the Spirit... or unfocused, they can be significantly off.
It's "interpretation" not "translation".
I do not have children, but I have two cats and was raised around dogs. Many times I 'know' what has been 'said' by them. However, I believe that most of the time one must be well acquainted with the animal in order to reach that level. The same would apply to the Spirit. One must know the Lord in order to speak the words that He gives.
For interpretation of tongues, not everyone has the same 'method'. Many times I will have been receiving a message from God in advance. Other times it comes suddenly. When I been used for the interpretation, it is much like speaking in tongues in that there is only complete surrender to the Spirit. Others have it given to them in other ways.
I am often praying before and after that I do not make a mistake. I have felt it on occasion, and once I last the flow of the Spirit at the end of the message. I spent time in prayer asking God to not allow that to happen again. However, we must always remember that we are merely the clay vessels on the Potter's Wheel.
and now i will bring a moment of solace by yodeling in the spirit... stand by.
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That I would have to hear! (Not entirely sure it can be done, but I would like to see anyway.)
Sis. Falla, I have never found you to be cruel or unkind in any of your postings.
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