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Sam
05-01-2012, 11:02 AM
I received this email yesterday from an Apostolic minister and thought I'd share it here.

Signing the Declaration of Independence was a dangerous act. To call the king of England a tyrant --especially in such a public and eloquent way-- was high treason, punishable by death. Although the signers of the Declaration of Independence had different reasons for doing so, were very different individuals, and had radically different political points of view, the executioner's rope could be equally effective for one and all. John Hancock was bold. He signed his name first and large. "There," he said; "King George should be able to read that without his spectacles." When Benjamin Franklin signed, he was expected to say something witty, pithy, and to the point; he was, after all, the greatest aphorist of his day. Franklin did not disappoint. "We must all hang together," he said, "or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." These founding fathers recognized the need for unity as they forged this great country we know as The United States of America.

A popular American flag (prior to Betsy Ross's version with the stars and stripes) showed a snake divided in parts representing the thirteen colonies. The slogan was: UNITE OR DIE. Another popular early flag showed the snake united, with the warning: DON'T TREAD ON ME. Again, an emphasis on unity.

Another way of stressing the need for unity came from Martin Niemoeller (January 14, 1892 - March 6, 1984) who was a German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor. He said, “In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.”

In the November 1933 issue of Pentecostal Outlook, official magazine of the Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ organization, page 24. W. T. Witherspoon, Chairman of the organization, wrote these words: “While in prayer a few days ago, the Lord burdened me with the terrible conditions, not only in the world, but in the Jesus Only church. It seems to me that God is letting enough happen to show the brethren of like precious faith the absolute necessity of getting together, regardless of machinery or offices. No one group can point their fingers at the other. Division is keeping back God’s power. The only division there should be is between righteousness and unrighteousness; holiness and sin.”

In the June 1936 issue on page 8, L. R. Ooton said this: “There is no greater need among the Spirit-filled children of God today, than the unity of the Spirit. There are entirely too many divisions or organizations separating Oneness brethren, and the eternal God is viewing this situation today. If we preach Oneness, it is also necessary for us to practice the same.”

It is my opinion that there is only one Church. This is the Church that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 16:18 where He called it “My Church” and promised to edify or build it up. He also said that the gates of death would not overcome it. We some times call this Church “the Body of Christ” or “the Church of Jesus Christ” or “the Church of God” or just simply “the Church.” It is my opinion that this one Church is made up of all who have believed in Jesus Christ and who have submitted to Him as Lord whether they have been water baptized or not, or how much water was used if they were baptized, or whatever words may have been spoken when they were baptized, or whatever name may be on the outside of the building, or whatever fellowship card (if any) they carry in their wallet or purse.

1 John 5:1 says, “If you believe that Jesus is the Christ --that He is God’s Son and your Savior-- you are a child of God.” The verse goes on and states that since we all have the same Heavenly Father we are therefore all brothers and sisters and just as we love our Heavenly Father we also love our spiritual siblings.

It bothers me to see apparent divisions among God’s family who make up the Church. On His last night before His crucifixion Jesus prayed for His followers --those who were with Him then and all those who would later believe in Him. You and I are included in that prayer because we have come to faith in Jesus through the words of the Apostles by whom the Bible was given. He prayed for several things and one of them was for unity. That prayer is recorded in John 17:1-26 where Jesus prayed for our:
1 Salvation verses 2-5
2 Revelation verses 6-8
3 Preservation verses 9-12
4 Jubilation verse 13
5 Sanctification/Separation verses 14-19
6 Evangelization verse 20
7 Unification verses 21-23
8 Affection (love) verses 23, 26
9 Glorification verses 22-24

Notice that when Jesus prayed for unity He said, “I am praying not only for these disciples but also for all who will ever believe in me through their message. I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one... so that the world will believe you sent me.” How were Jesus and the Father one? The word one can mean united or unity and it can also mean a numerical one. Jesus was a man/human indwelt by God and there was a oneness or unity or cooperation between Him and His Father. Indwelt by the Father He did the works of God. He was God and man united. The Body of Christ is one in unity and it is also made up of one group of humans indwelt by God and doing the works of God.

Our divisions and differences and exclusiveness in the way we treat one another not only grieves our Heavenly Father but also presents a distorted caricature of the Body of Christ to those around us. How many people have been turned off and alienated from Jesus by the way we treat our brothers and sisters who may look different, worship different, and believe differently than we. The late John Wimber (February 25, 1934 - November 17, 1997) founder of the Vineyard Churches said, “We have all been called to love the things Jesus loves, so we have no choice but to love the whole church --even the denominations whose beliefs we may not agree with or those parts we do not understand.” The Church is said to be the only army that buries its wounded and our "spiritual warfare" has been laughingly compared to a “circular firing squad.”

Ephesians 4:1-6 tells us there is only one Church, the Body of Christ, and it is made up of all who have been baptized/placed into it by His Spirit. This is how it reads in the New Living Translation:
1 Therefore I, a prisoner for serving the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of your calling, for you have been called by God. 2 Always be humble and gentle. Be patient with each other, making allowance for each other’s faults because of your love. 3 Make every effort to keep yourselves united in the Spirit, binding yourselves together with peace. 4 For there is one body and one Spirit, just as you have been called to one glorious hope for the future. 5 There is one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 and one God and Father, who is over all and in all and living through all.

So, what are you and I supposed to do? I suggest the following actions:
-Recognize the unity of the one true Church
-Receive one another as members of that one body
-Respect your brother and sister and their right to be different than you
-Realize none of us is perfect
-Restore any who fall
-Rely on God’s Spirit to do that and
-Really work on it

Sam
05-01-2012, 01:38 PM
31 views and no responses?

Michael Phelps
05-01-2012, 01:50 PM
31 views and no responses?

Great thoughts. History has shown that it's a pipe dream, but it kind of sounds negative for me to say that. So, let me just say, I hope it happens!

Timmy
05-01-2012, 02:01 PM
Oh, but there is unity! Lots of little pockets of unity all over the place! :toofunny

Sam
05-01-2012, 02:07 PM
Oh, but there is unity! Lots of little pockets of unity all over the place! :toofunny

In my opinion, there IS unity in the Church as far as God is concerned. He only sees one Body. The divisions are our human problems.

Now what that one Body is can be controversial among some of us.

Dalton
05-01-2012, 02:11 PM
I agree with his plea for unity but his list at the end is odd.


-Realize none of us is perfect

per·fect   /adj., n. ˈpɜrfɪkt; v. pərˈfɛkt/ Show Spelled[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] Show IPA
adjective
1. conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman. 2. excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect.
3. exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes.
4. entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime.
5. accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy

Job 1:1
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Genesis 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Hebrews 6:1-6
1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3And this will we do, if God permit. 4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

-Respect your brother and sister and their right to be different than you

1 Corinthians 6:2
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? (Its not a matter of disrespect rather a matter of whats permissable)

1 Timothy 5:20-21
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

-Restore any who fall
Again thats impossible according to hebrews.

bbyrd009
05-01-2012, 03:33 PM
Well dang; and here I finally finished post 1, and was gonna thumbs up it, dang...
(searching for translations that fit my pre-conceived notions here; I'll get back to you)

BeenThinkin
05-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Well dang; and here I finally finished post 1, and was gonna thumbs up it, dang...


bbyrd009... you better watch them dang slang words! Cindy'l get you! :happydance

RevDWW
05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
But how can I unify with those that are not near as Holy as me?? [heavy on the tic]

Jay
05-01-2012, 04:05 PM
As the late Bro. T.W. Barnes said, "I would rather be divided by truth than united by error."

scotty
05-01-2012, 04:33 PM
I'm more Apostolic than any of you will ever be.


(sound like someone you know ? :bigbaby)

RevDWW
05-01-2012, 07:25 PM
I'm more Apostolic than any of you will ever be.


(sound like someone you know ? :bigbaby)
:toofunny

Sam
05-01-2012, 08:52 PM
I agree with his plea for unity but his list at the end is odd....

-Restore any who fall
Again thats impossible according to hebrews.

I realize Hebrews 6 speaks of those who have fallen away and says it is impossible to renew them to repentance. This is a controversial passage. Some think it could only apply to a Jewish person who left the sacrificial system, accepted Yeshua as the supreme sacrifice pictured by all the OT sacrifices, and then repudiated Yeshua and went back to animal sacrifices. Some think there is a difference between "falling" or "stumbling" or "missing the mark" and "falling away" or reaching that point of no return. Or referring to what Paul called being "knocked down but not knocked out" in 2 Corinthians 4:9.

I know the author and think he was referring to something like Galatians 6:1 where it says: "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted."

Dordrecht
05-01-2012, 08:54 PM
You'll never get unity as long as a whole bunch of Christians think they have to WORK their way into heaven.