Pastor said the *F - thing* in church.

[Dordrecht]

Last sunday morning a local pastor said the F thing in church.
This was on his blog on monday morning:

Hey I have to apologize. Last week I quoted a totally unchurched, godless, careless sinner who said the Courageous movie we are about to play again is an “eff’n good movie.” ‘Cept he didn’t say “eff’n” – he used the full extent of the word.
I thought hmm, that was a rave review from someone who didn’t know God or even call himself a churchgoer, but as soon as I said it (not the full version, of course, just “Ff’” part) in church last Sunday am service, I thought — “ah…whoops, shouldn’t have said that.”
There were many people not paying attention to what I was saying at the time, as we were just getting going on the announcements and they were looking down and shuffling papers, and talking – and then I said it. Boy, their heads popped up immediately, and I had their attention alright!
Anyway, I do apologize. Didn’t need to say it; didn’t even plan on saying it; just came out as a quote. And, it was stupid, and could’ve easily caused some offense to take place. Absolutely no one has mentioned it in any way as being offensive. But hey, they could all be “gracing” out on me. So…
Please accept my apologies.


Any thoughts?

[AreYouReady?]

:eek: String him up by his feet and hang him upside down for his infraction! :foottap

Then beat him down like this. :beatdeadhorse

then this...:guns

That'll teach him fer his slip of the tongue :nod


Or rather...I would actually prefer to just "grace out" on him and forget it. :nod

[Jay]

I would be asking to speak with him in his office, and inquiring if this were going to be a new trend in church because I have felt it unsafe to continue if he is going to fail to edit such quotes before he used them. Further, I would be wondering why he was quoting a sinner to endorse the movie.

That is what I would do if I were a member of his church, which will never happen making this an exercise in futility.

[bbyrd009]

Last sunday morning a local pastor said the F thing in church.
This was on his blog on monday morning:

Hey I have to apologize. Last week I quoted a totally unchurched, godless, careless sinner who said the Courageous movie we are about to play again is an “eff’n good movie.” ‘Cept he didn’t say “eff’n” – he used the full extent of the word.
I thought hmm, that was a rave review from someone who didn’t know God or even call himself a churchgoer, but as soon as I said it (not the full version, of course, just “Ff’” part) in church last Sunday am service, I thought — “ah…whoops, shouldn’t have said that.”
There were many people not paying attention to what I was saying at the time, as we were just getting going on the announcements and they were looking down and shuffling papers, and talking – and then I said it. Boy, their heads popped up immediately, and I had their attention alright!
Anyway, I do apologize. Didn’t need to say it; didn’t even plan on saying it; just came out as a quote. And, it was stupid, and could’ve easily caused some offense to take place. Absolutely no one has mentioned it in any way as being offensive. But hey, they could all be “gracing” out on me. So…
Please accept my apologies.


Any thoughts?

All the sudden, we're getting the F word in churches; multiple. Hmm

[Dordrecht]

I would be asking to speak with him in his office, and inquiring if this were going to be a new trend in church because I have felt it unsafe to continue if he is going to fail to edit such quotes before he used them. Further, I would be wondering why he was quoting a sinner to endorse the movie.

That is what I would do if I were a member of his church, which will never happen making this an exercise in futility.

I think I have to agree with you, Jay.
Why quote a sinner....like a sinner would be the expert on judging a "christian" movie?

[AreYouReady?]

Why even speak of it?

[bbyrd009]

even better.

[Hoovie]

I would not much like that myself, but I would really be upset if he said that in front of my kids.

There has been more than one occasion that we have left a service with our children because someone found it necessary to go into detail about shooting up drugs - how wonderful it felt, and they were immediately hooked etc.... even a young girl will gladly give sex after a fix etc. etc...

[Bro. Robbins]

Lord knows any of us that speak publicly for any long period of time will eventually mess up and say something we shouldn't have. Typically, there is much more grace to something being said spontaneously, than something that had some forethought, and in this case, it would seem he knew he was going to at least quote a "sinner's" view of the movie.

That all being said, the "mishap" was done publicly, then the apology should be in the same forum and setting as the mistake. Unless it is a trend, I'd afford him the same mercy and grace I would want myself... but I was taught a long time ago, if the foot was placed in the mouth in the pulpit in front of a crowd, then remove it in the pulpit in front of that same crowd as well.

[Timmy]

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[Timmy]

Can't post it here, but there is a video of a pastor (youth pastor, I think) who blurts out the "real" f-word. Hilarious! Er, I mean, um, sad. Very sad.

:lol

[Cindy]

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Tim-may!!

[Dordrecht]

He apologized on his blog.
I think he should apologize in church, not everybody is on the internet checking his blog.

[MissBrattified]

He apologized for the possible offense. What's the problem? :coffee2


Lord knows any of us that speak publicly for any long period of time will eventually mess up and say something we shouldn't have. Typically, there is much more grace to something being said spontaneously, than something that had some forethought, and in this case, it would seem he knew he was going to at least quote a "sinner's" view of the movie.

That all being said, the "mishap" was done publicly, then the apology should be in the same forum and setting as the mistake. Unless it is a trend, I'd afford him the same mercy and grace I would want myself... but I was taught a long time ago, if the foot was placed in the mouth in the pulpit in front of a crowd, then remove it in the pulpit in front of that same crowd as well.

:thumbsup

[MissBrattified]

He apologized on his blog.
I think he should apologize in church, not everybody is on the internet checking his blog.

Are you sure he didn't ALSO apologize in church?

[MissBrattified]

Link to the blog: http://cclf.ca/blog/using-an-eff-word-at-church/

ETA: Services are streamed live and then archived for online watching. That's probably why he felt the need to post an apology online.

[Jay]

Lord knows any of us that speak publicly for any long period of time will eventually mess up and say something we shouldn't have. Typically, there is much more grace to something being said spontaneously, than something that had some forethought, and in this case, it would seem he knew he was going to at least quote a "sinner's" view of the movie.

That all being said, the "mishap" was done publicly, then the apology should be in the same forum and setting as the mistake. Unless it is a trend, I'd afford him the same mercy and grace I would want myself... but I was taught a long time ago, if the foot was placed in the mouth in the pulpit in front of a crowd, then remove it in the pulpit in front of that same crowd as well.


I once saw a youtube clip of a young preacher (Apostolic) who said that he would kick the devil in the groin. It was rather amusing to watch both of the other preacher's reactions as both were seasoned ministers (one of whom I heard say, "I need therapy", repeatedly during some of his earlier years of preaching).



Tim-may!!


That was my thought exactly!



He apologized on his blog.
I think he should apologize in church, not everybody is on the internet checking his blog.


I have to agree. I would have to wonder how many people who were present would have read his blog. Further, it is only correct to right the wrong in the same venue that you committed the wrong.

[scotty]

I can only hope God will afford me more grace than most of you. geeez.

[AreYouReady?]

Lord knows any of us that speak publicly for any long period of time will eventually mess up and say something we shouldn't have. Typically, there is much more grace to something being said spontaneously, than something that had some forethought, and in this case, it would seem he knew he was going to at least quote a "sinner's" view of the movie.

That all being said, the "mishap" was done publicly, then the apology should be in the same forum and setting as the mistake. Unless it is a trend, I'd afford him the same mercy and grace I would want myself... but I was taught a long time ago, if the foot was placed in the mouth in the pulpit in front of a crowd, then remove it in the pulpit in front of that same crowd as well.

:thumbsup

Well...I certainly agree with this.

[Timmy]

Tim-may!!

That was my thought exactly!

I "apologized" in my blog. :D

[Jay]

I "apologized" in my blog. :D

:smack :foottap :club :thwak :naughty :reaper :snapout :angry1 :ranting :irate :nuke

[scotty]

I "apologized" in my blog. :D


ROFL!

[RandyWayne]

I "apologized" in my blog. :D

I already sent that pic to a few people at work. :)

[Bro. Robbins]

I already sent that pic to a few people at work. :)

Hopefully none that think your a Christian.

[RandyWayne]

Hopefully none that think your a Christian.

I doubt they think that.... After all I wear dress pants and Hawaiian shirts. :)

[Bro. Robbins]

I doubt they think that.... After all I wear dress pants and Hawaiian shirts. :)

Dress Shirts and Hawaiian shirts have nothing to do with being a Christian or not... but endorsing off color humor and low moral ideas does.

[Jay]

Dress Shirts and Hawaiian shirts have nothing to do with being a Christian or not... but endorsing off color humor and low moral ideas does.


I have often said the same thing to others.

[scotty]

I doubt they think that.... After all I wear dress pants and Hawaiian shirts. :)

Your ok, just don't break out them dress shorts. :bigbaby

[Cindy]

I "apologized" in my blog. :D

Apologize here!! :foottap

[scotty]

Apologize here!! :foottap


Timmy in twoubuuulllleee !!! :laffatu

[RandyWayne]

Your ok, just don't break out them dress shorts. :bigbaby

Go see the Suit and Tie thread where I posted a pic of what I will be wearing out tonight when we go to dinner. :)

[scotty]

Go see the Suit and Tie thread where I posted a pic of what I will be wearing out tonight when we go to dinner. :)

Oh yeah, your hell bound now. Beard and all .

Nice pieces

[Timmy]

Apologize here!! :foottap

I thought you were in a good mood!

OK, fine. I'm "sorry" here.

[Cindy]

I thought you were in a good mood!

OK, fine. I'm "sorry" here.

I am, I didn't smack you. :D

Thank you. :)

[Praxeas]

I think I have to agree with you, Jay.
Why quote a sinner....like a sinner would be the expert on judging a "christian" movie?
If I read the guy right, he was reading reviews. He did not pick the sinner. He was reading it and realized it was not a church goer.

Its funny that people treat such trite mistakes they way they do and bizaare they treat dropping a word like that as if he committed adultery

[Praxeas]

I am glad I am saved by His grace