UPC Pastor Quoted in USA Today

["GL"]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-23-tongues-brain_N.htm?csp=34

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I see a COGIC minister, but not a UPC minister.

Did I read too fast?!?!

[Jack Shephard]

I see a COGIC minister, but not a UPC minister.

Did I read too fast?!?!

Bro Baughman is UPC

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Bro Baughman is UPC

Thanks

"We see it as evidence of the spirit of God within us," says Terry Baughman, pastor of The Pentecostals of Pleasanton. "We see it as filling a God-shaped hole in the heart of man. "

["GL"]

I see a COGIC minister, but not a UPC minister.

Did I read too fast?!?!


:thwak

He's a UPC pastor, instructor at CLC and an author.

:thumbsup

[StillStanding]

The USA Today is looking our way! :D

["GL"]

The USA Today is looking our way! :D


:lol

You must admit, it's cool to see the media dicussing the Pentecostals.

[tamor]

The USA Today is looking our way! :D

:toofunny

[berkeley]

The USA Today is looking our way! :D
:killinme

[Praxeas]

"We see it as evidence of the spirit of God within us," says Terry Baughman, pastor of The Pentecostals of Pleasanton. "We see it as filling a God-shaped hole in the heart of man. "

Good grief! Why even be Pentecostal anymore? Let's just mimick Joel Osteen and tell everyone they have a purpose and that God wants them to smile and be happy

[berkeley]

"We see it as evidence of the spirit of God within us," says Terry Baughman, pastor of The Pentecostals of Pleasanton. "We see it as filling a God-shaped hole in the heart of man. "

Good grief! Why even be Pentecostal anymore? Let's just mimick Joel Osteen and tell everyone they have a purpose and that God wants them to smile and be happy

umm.. wow.. to soft for ya???:laffatu

[Praxeas]

On a wave of emotion, the man at the front of the church broke into a language only he and his God could understand.
"Ah le ah ne al la ne," said Bill Siordia, a worshiper at The Pentecostals of Pleasanton, a small congregation in the San Francisco Bay Area. With closed eyes and palms raised skyward, he continued in a whispered rush. "Ma ne ah ne ta la ah ka wa."


Is this supposed to be flattering? A "wave of emotion"? ah le ah ne al la ne?

I always wondered why the mockers break tongues down into it's syllables...why isn't it Ahleah neallane?

[Sandra]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-23-tongues-brain_N.htm?csp=34



I just sang at Dwight McKissic's church 3 weeks ago, he had a conference called " a Conference on the Holy Spirit'
It is unreal, the SBC are taking missionaries off the field because they speak in tongues in private.
very sad.

Quote from USA today;

Many in the SBC do not want to accept the inerrant word of God when it comes to praying in tongues," says Dwight McKissic, pastor of Cornerstone Baptist Church in Arlington, Texas, and a leader of the tongue-speaking Baptists. "They see it as irrational, but faith is irrational. I think they have chosen to reject it rather than teach it as God's word."

[Praxeas]

umm.. wow.. to soft for ya???:laffatu
Yes, my room mate and I were just discussing this issue. America is reeking of immorality. He was telling me of a church he used to attend, pentecostal, where 8 out of 12 girls got pregnant out of wedlock. A guy that had only been there for months was allowed to teach the youth AND after committing fornication was allowed back into that position after just a week or so. A girl who teaches sunday school dates sinners. They dress like hooches. The church he goes to now they dress like hoochies..it's not Pentecostal.

[Rev Dooley]

Is this supposed to be flattering? A "wave of emotion"? ah le ah ne al la ne?

I always wondered why the mockers break tongues down into it's syllables...why isn't it Ahleah neallane?Well, who's to say how it was said since I doubt too many on this board were there.

When tongues first became a phenomenon of note, there were studied that I heard about to determine if the language was real. I don't know where the docs are, but it was my understanding that it was determined that indeed these were real, unknown languages.

Personally, I have heard people speak in spanish (a good friend who knew not a word of it) and in chinese which was interpreted by a lady sitting with our group who spoke Mandarin. That was an experience to say the least. The lady speaking was witnessing in chinese to a friend of mine who didn't believe that tongues were real. He lfet with a different perspective that night.

[berkeley]

Yes, my room mate and I were just discussing this issue. America is reeking of immorality. He was telling me of a church he used to attend, pentecostal, where 8 out of 12 girls got pregnant out of wedlock. A guy that had only been there for months was allowed to teach the youth AND after committing fornication was allowed back into that position after just a week or so. A girl who teaches sunday school dates sinners. They dress like hooches. The church he goes to now they dress like hoochies..it's not Pentecostal.

You and your roomie attend different churches???

[Praxeas]

Well, who's to say how it was said since I doubt too many on this board were there.

When tongues first became a phenomenon of note, there were studied that I heard about to determine if the language was real. I don't know where the docs are, but it was my understanding that it was determined that indeed these were real, unknown languages.

Personally, I have heard people speak in spanish (a good friend who knew not a word of it) and in chinese which was interpreted by a lady sitting with our group who spoke Mandarin. That was an experience to say the least. The lady speaking was witnessing in chinese to a friend of mine who didn't believe that tongues were real. He lfet with a different perspective that night.

I have heard many different "known" languages and they sounded like nothing to me, I only knew they were real languages because I was familiar with that kind of langauge. Chinese sounds like nothing to me, but from watching dubbed chinese movies I know this is a real language.

I heard someone say no real language has sentences where every word ends in a vowel. That is absolutely false too. I have seen sentence in spanish where every word ended in a vowel

[Praxeas]

You and your roomie attend different churches???
Yes. He goes to Calvary Chapel.

[Praxeas]

Well, who's to say how it was said since I doubt too many on this board were there.

When tongues first became a phenomenon of note, there were studied that I heard about to determine if the language was real. I don't know where the docs are, but it was my understanding that it was determined that indeed these were real, unknown languages.

Personally, I have heard people speak in spanish (a good friend who knew not a word of it) and in chinese which was interpreted by a lady sitting with our group who spoke Mandarin. That was an experience to say the least. The lady speaking was witnessing in chinese to a friend of mine who didn't believe that tongues were real. He lfet with a different perspective that night.
How it was said? Im not going by how something was said. I am going by what that person wrote down

[berkeley]

Yes. He goes to Calvary Chapel.

oneness?

[Praxeas]

oneness?
threeness

[AGAPE]

them girls need long sleeves and long skirts with no slits....

btw those clothes don't need to be tight either

[berkeley]

them girls need long sleeves and long skirts with no slits....

btw those clothes don't need to be tight either

uhh.. the little girls???

[seguidordejesus]

"We see it as evidence of the spirit of God within us," says Terry Baughman, pastor of The Pentecostals of Pleasanton. "We see it as filling a God-shaped hole in the heart of man. "

Good grief! Why even be Pentecostal anymore? Let's just mimick Joel Osteen and tell everyone they have a purpose and that God wants them to smile and be happy

Since when do we quote C.S. Lewis to validate our experience?? That's nuts.

[tv1a]

If the Apostle Paul can quote pagans in his sermons and his writings (at least 3 documented cases) than there shouldn't be a problem quoting one of the most brilliant christian minds of the past 100 years.

Since when do we quote C.S. Lewis to validate our experience?? That's nuts.

[berkeley]

If the Apostle Paul can quote pagans in his sermons and his writings (at least 3 documented cases) than there shouldn't be a problem quoting one of the most brilliant christian minds of the past 100 years.
Better off quoting a pagan... just like when they backslide.. rather see 'em in the bar or fall into the profession of a harlot than to see them go "charismatic" or trinity!!!:bubble

[tv1a]

There you go with the smiley that is spitting out that pea green soup. lol
Can we do an exorcism on a smiley?

Truth is truth no matter what chimney it comes from.

Better off quoting a pagan... just like when they backslide.. rather see 'em in the bar or fall into the profession of a harlot than to see them go "charismatic" or trinity!!!:bubble

[Praxeas]

There you go with the smiley that is spitting out that pea green soup. lol
Can we do an exorcism on a smiley?

Truth is truth no matter what chimney it comes from.
Yes but is it truth that "you have a God shaped hole in your heart that only he can fill"? And is the truth that such statements belong in our "repertoire" of sayings we use to show the unsaved the truth?

[berkeley]

Yes but is it truth that "you have a God shaped hole in your heart that only he can fill"? And is the truth that such statements belong in our "repertoire" of sayings we use to show the unsaved the truth?

It's not that bad dude... who ruffled your pink feathers?

[The Mrs]

Yes but is it truth that "you have a God shaped hole in your heart that only he can fill"? And is the truth that such statements belong in our "repertoire" of sayings we use to show the unsaved the truth?

That's one of the things taught to me when I first came to Christ. :dunno

[berkeley]

That's one of the things taught to me when I first came to Christ. :dunno

That only God can fill the void in your life??

[The Mrs]

That only God can fill the void in your life??

That there's a hole in my heart that only God's Spirit can fill.

[Praxeas]

It's not that bad dude... who ruffled your pink feathers?
Not sure what you mean here, but is it the truth or not?

[berkeley]

Not sure what you mean here, but is it the truth or not?

what would you have said?