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Walks_in_islam
07-20-2012, 08:54 PM
Interesting article. Absent the federal courts I do not believe the communities here are any better than the communities in, say, Yemen.
Sad
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/justice/tennesee-mosque-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=us_c2
BroJoe
07-20-2012, 09:08 PM
American's can still be...stand offish to muslims.
Thank God we got a system in place that tolerates muslims, however. As opposed to some Muslim nations that will kill you simply for being a Christian.
Praxeas
07-20-2012, 11:35 PM
Sally Wall, one of the leading opponents of the mosque, said she wasn't surprised by the ruling and never thought her group would win the court case. She said she just wanted to show Muslims that they are not welcome in Murfreesboro.
Faced with the fact that the mosque is likely to be opening soon, Wall said she hopes it doesn't bring "1,000 to 2,000 Muslim families here."
She plans to keep up the fight, and said the controversy has drawn the community closer together.
"Everyone else feels the same way I do (about the mosque) except the 5% who moved here the day before yesterday," she said.
BroJoe
07-20-2012, 11:42 PM
Sally Wall, one of the leading opponents of the mosque, said she wasn't surprised by the ruling and never thought her group would win the court case. She said she just wanted to show Muslims that they are not welcome in Murfreesboro.
Faced with the fact that the mosque is likely to be opening soon, Wall said she hopes it doesn't bring "1,000 to 2,000 Muslim families here."
She plans to keep up the fight, and said the controversy has drawn the community closer together.
"Everyone else feels the same way I do (about the mosque) except the 5% who moved here the day before yesterday," she said.
I am not surprised if that is the case.
canam
07-21-2012, 04:54 AM
Interesting article. Absent the federal courts I do not believe the communities here are any better than the communities in, say, Yemen.
Sad
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/justice/tennesee-mosque-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=us_c2
Except all us infidels would be dead, ya no diff at all !
scotty
07-21-2012, 06:01 AM
Sad really. Slavery is gone. Muslims have become the new target of southern hate.
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 06:38 AM
Lots of living, breathing "infidels" in Muslim countries.
IF: You show up hairsprayed in a lincoln continental with fistfuls of money and an unwelcome message in Watts and get killed for it you are just written off as stupid
IF: You show up hairsprayed in a lincoln contental with fistfuls of money and an unwelcome message in some overseas country and get killed for it this somehow makes you a noble martyr?
LOL
Even Paul/Saul said he would be different things to different people. I am very sorry to point this out but pride is what keeps the christian community from adhering to the rules around them and pride is what is getting christians killed in faraway countries overseas.
Question: Would this be noble martyrdom or just a stupid way to get killed: Dress up in "Ihram" or the all-white clothing reserved for Hajj and then head out for a few beers to one of the cowboy bars west of Houston, figure out what those boys believe in, and then loudly and publicly put down their beliefs? I'm pretty sure that's a good way to get carried out.
Don't otherwise discuss "poor dead infidels" with me until you explain to me what makes you believe you can show the above disregard, which, by the way is what some of you do overseas, and not expect the same reaction you would get in west tx. I have never seen a dead "infidel (lol i love that term)", only thousands of live ones. Let's discuss those then let's discuss the difference.
Except all us infidels would be dead, ya no diff at all !
Dordrecht
07-21-2012, 08:30 AM
One thing is for sure, when Christ returns we don't have to worry about mosques, or any other false religions worshipping centres.
No more Islam, no more Latter Day Saints, no more or whatever is out there.
No more strange cults worshipping anything that appeals to them.
Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Christ is Lord.
What a day that will be.....
Then the glory of the moon will wane, and the brightness of the sun will fade, for the LORD of Heaven's Armies will rule on Mount Zion.
He will rule in great glory in Jerusalem, in the sight of all the leaders of his people.
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 10:33 AM
Hmm; how would Jesus pursue a lawsuit against
a God-fearing religion, hmm...
samuelofisrael
07-21-2012, 10:56 AM
Sad really. Slavery is gone. Muslims have become the new target of southern hate.
Not hate but very careful monitoring and intense peaceful resistence. They are a maglinant cancer, enemy of every right thinking man or woman. They are a tool of the prince of darkness and only American civil law will keep them within the boundaries of peaceful pursuits. Personally, I believe they are as anti-American, as anti-Christian, as anti-Semitic, as devious and as deceived as any fool on planet earth.
Tomorrow I'll tell you what I really think.
Be not deceived, Islam is a growing sore on the body politic. They have nothing of value to offer mankind. They are a disease.
"Islam is a religion of peace." -- "W"
And now we know ....
scotty
07-21-2012, 11:57 AM
Not hate but very careful monitoring and intense peaceful resistence. They are a maglinant cancer, enemy of every right thinking man or woman. They are a tool of the prince of darkness and only American civil law will keep them within the boundaries of peaceful pursuits. Personally, I believe they are as anti-American, as anti-Christian, as anti-Semitic, as devious and as deceived as any fool on planet earth.
Tomorrow I'll tell you what I really think.
Be not deceived, Islam is a growing sore on the body politic. They have nothing of value to offer mankind. They are a disease.
"Islam is a religion of peace." -- "W"
And now we know ....
Well, I believe they are "as lost as two boys kissing" as an elder here would say. But that is beside the point. They have a radical side just like christianity does, (shall we talk about Westboro ? )
I do believe there is a peaceful version of Islam. I also believe there is a hypocritical side of Islam, the side that is spreading to other countries in the world all the while proclaiming they are the Great Satan. Just as the 911 hijackers spent their last days drinkin it up in a local night club which is against the very religion they claimed to have martyred themselves for.
I believe a day is coming when those hypocritical sects of Islam's will rise up against the countries they are pouring into, because as I say, why would they condemn these countries at the same time they are lining up to live in them unless they had another motive.
But that's not the point here. No one in the article had any reason whatsoever to object to the building other than, we dont want them here. That smacks of christian hypocrisy.
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 11:57 AM
Um, sorry, SOI, but that is just hate.
Take a break from Fox News, wouldja,
or better yet, go and actually meet a Muslim.
A painful truth for you will be that
"Ishmael was blessed of God,"
and none of your spew will change that.
Don't be deceived yourself, hate-monger,
that the body politic is a festering sore
on the Church (I have Scripture for that,
that you surely will also not be able to hear),
and your civil law is a pathetic failure next to
God's idea; albeit the best we have right now.
I am a Christian, but have dealt with Muslims
for years; and I will tell you that it is you,
and those who would let you spout such tripe
without admonition, that I most fear.
scotty
07-21-2012, 11:59 AM
Um, sorry, SOI, but that is just hate.
Take a break from Fox News, wouldja,
or better yet, go and actually meet a Muslim.
A painful truth for you will be that
"Ishmael was blessed of God,"
and none of your spew will change that.
Don't be deceived yourself, hate-monger,
that the body politic is a festering sore
on the Church (I have Scripture for that,
that you surely will also not be able to hear),
and your civil law is a pathetic failure next to
God's idea; albeit the best we have right now.
I am a Christian, but have dealt with Muslims
for years; and I will tell you that it is you,
and those who would let you spout such tripe
without admonition, that I most fear.
:thumbsup
Dordrecht
07-21-2012, 12:46 PM
Um, sorry, SOI, but that is just hate.
Stop using the "hate card", we have heard that often enough and is starting to get boring.
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About the koran:
The devil is a master in personating God.
He designs false teachings to look like it's from the Lord.
Which IS of God to make it look like it's NOT of God.
And which is NOT of God to make it like it IS of God.
scotty
07-21-2012, 01:02 PM
Stop using the "hate card", we have heard that often enough and is starting to get boring.
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About the koran:
The devil is a master in personating God.
He designs false teachings to look like it's from the Lord.
Which IS of God to make it look like it's NOT of God.
And which is NOT of God to make it like it IS of God.
I agree
But this isn't about whether they are right or wrong in their beliefs. This is about freedom of religion in this country. You deny it to one, it may be denied to you one day.
And it is hate. In the article they gave no excuse for not wanting them there, they didnt even play the religion card. Just point blank, we dont want you here.
People need to understand, this country belongs to the American people, not just the christian American people. If we as christian want our rights to believe and congregate freely, we must afford those same rights to others. To think we are special is ignorant. This is one nation UNDER God, not one nation OF God.
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 01:26 PM
Unfortunately the more radical and minority of the Islamiic sect seem to be the most vocal and target and are able to influence young people.
It's like that with a lot of sects including skinheads but the problem is skinheads are reclusive and exclusive. They are not generally a part of a large Christian congregation particularly one that loves other races
But in Islam that is not the case
Americans have a fear of this radical element influencing others, and forcing sharia law on them. Is it a rational fear? Well take a look at other nations like Lebanon, used to be a Christian nation.
Britian, the have whole enclaves is Muslims with radicalization going on
Same is happening across Europe.
Look at other nations that historically were at one time Christian and are now not only mostly Islamic, they force Sharia law on it's people and Christians are persecuted.
Egyptian radicals persecute the Coptics.
Americans fear the same is or will happen here.
The problem is, or the Solution is we need the Moderates to stand up more often and assure us this won't happen and in partnership with American authorities rat out the fringe radicals in their midst.
canam
07-21-2012, 01:54 PM
Unfortunately the more radical and minority of the Islamiic sect seem to be the most vocal and target and are able to influence young people.
It's like that with a lot of sects including skinheads but the problem is skinheads are reclusive and exclusive. They are not generally a part of a large Christian congregation particularly one that loves other races
But in Islam that is not the case
Americans have a fear of this radical element influencing others, and forcing sharia law on them. Is it a rational fear? Well take a look at other nations like Lebanon, used to be a Christian nation.
Britian, the have whole enclaves is Muslims with radicalization going on
Same is happening across Europe.
Look at other nations that historically were at one time Christian and are now not only mostly Islamic, they force Sharia law on it's people and Christians are persecuted.
Egyptian radicals persecute the Coptics.
Americans fear the same is or will happen here.
The problem is, or the Solution is we need the Moderates to stand up more often and assure us this won't happen and in partnership with American authorities rat out the fringe radicals in their midst.
moderates never seem to do that which makes them complicit also
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 02:04 PM
I agree
But this isn't about whether they are right or wrong in their beliefs. This is about freedom of religion in this country. You deny it to one, it may be denied to you one day.
And it is hate. In the article they gave no excuse for not wanting them there, they didnt even play the religion card. Just point blank, we dont want you here.
People need to understand, this country belongs to the American people, not just the christian American people. If we as christian want our rights to believe and congregate freely, we must afford those same rights to others. To think we are special is ignorant. This is one nation UNDER God, not one nation OF God.
It's fear
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 02:05 PM
moderates never seem to do that which makes them complicit also
they have from time to time but it needs to happen more.
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 02:11 PM
Freedom of Religion?
Here is a question, do they respect the freedom of religion of other religions?
What about Freedom of speech?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/free-speech-insults-and-islam/story-e6frg6ux-1226293822139
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Freedom_of_Speech
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_complaints_against_Maclean%27s_magazi ne
Happening now in Canada and Australia
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 02:26 PM
There was neither freedom of religion nor freedom of speech under christian rule either.
You do realize that our constitution and ONLY our constitution is what separates us from these other countries?
Freedom of Religion?
Here is a question, do they respect the freedom of religion of other religions?
What about Freedom of speech?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/free-speech-insults-and-islam/story-e6frg6ux-1226293822139
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Freedom_of_Speech
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_complaints_against_Maclean%27s_magazi ne
Happening now in Canada and Australia
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 02:39 PM
It can be easy to assume that
"resist evil" = "fight evil,"
and this is not God's way for us, imo.
"Fools rush in, where angels fear to tread."
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 02:54 PM
There was neither freedom of religion nor freedom of speech under christian rule either.
You do realize that our constitution and ONLY our constitution is what separates us from these other countries?
That is my point. In Islamic nations there are no freedoms of speech or religion
In Canada they DID have both. Recently they changed laws and Islamists have used it to silence opposing views
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 02:55 PM
The point remains, these attitudes are born out of FEAR first, If you want to call them hate mongers so be it but that only fuels the fear
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 03:31 PM
Oh, I agree completely.
"When I defend myself, I am attacked."
samuelofisrael
07-21-2012, 03:42 PM
Well, I believe they are "as lost as two boys kissing" as an elder here would say. But that is beside the point. They have a radical side just like christianity does, (shall we talk about Westboro ? )
I do believe there is a peaceful version of Islam. I also believe there is a hypocritical side of Islam, the side that is spreading to other countries in the world all the while proclaiming they are the Great Satan. Just as the 911 hijackers spent their last days drinkin it up in a local night club which is against the very religion they claimed to have martyred themselves for.
I believe a day is coming when those hypocritical sects of Islam's will rise up against the countries they are pouring into, because as I say, why would they condemn these countries at the same time they are lining up to live in them unless they had another motive.
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But that's not the point here. No one in the article had any reason whatsoever to object to the building other than, we dont want them here. That smacks of christian hypocrisy.
Nothing hypocritical regarding a forceful system slowly oozing their way into America. They are a evil system founded by a deluded man furthered by deceived persons ENABLED by "Christians" who are as ignorant as a rock. It's no wonder the nation is in the shape we find ourselves. Who needs enemies with such friends.
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 03:45 PM
Nothing hypocritical regarding a forceful system slowly oozing their way into America. They are a evil system founded by a deluded man furthered by deceived persons ENABLED by "Christians" who are as ignorant as a rock. It's no wonder the nation is in the shape we find ourselves. Who needs enemies with such friends.
"They" are not a system. They are a people. Many are very backward coming from poor third world nations. We should not demonize all Muslims.
While I have my opinions on the religion, we should not demonize the entire group. I personally have known Muslims from Egypt who are very nice people
Praxeas
07-21-2012, 03:47 PM
BTW there are Muslims already living in that city...what difference does it make if they build a place of worship?
My only issue is if the are allowed to sound out 5 times a day loud calls to prayer as I feel that infringes on the space of neighbors.
And in this modern age everyone has a cell phone anyways, just call or txt them
samuelofisrael
07-21-2012, 03:56 PM
Um, sorry, SOI, but that is just hate.
Take a break from Fox News, wouldja,
or better yet, go and actually meet a Muslim.
A painful truth for you will be that
"Ishmael was blessed of God,"
and none of your spew will change that.
Don't be deceived yourself, hate-monger,
that the body politic is a festering sore
on the Church (I have Scripture for that,
that you surely will also not be able to hear),
and your civil law is a pathetic failure next to
God's idea; albeit the best we have right now.
I am a Christian, but have dealt with Muslims
for years; and I will tell you that it is you,
and those who would let you spout such tripe
without admonition, that I most fear.
A little fear might do you some real good. Judging from your left wing liberal response you seem removed from the real world.
Islam has absolutely NOTHING to offer lost and dying man, no Saviour, no prophetic system that promises redemption, no Great King who will vanquish all enemies. Islam is a putrid running wound on humanity. It's origin is from the nether regions, it victims the deluded taken in tow by the serpent. It's "friends" be they quasi Christians, the enablers of delusion and heresy.
There is no healing balm in Islam. It is darkness, delusion and in the end, eternal death.
Islam should never have been allowed a foothold in the nation. Only the blind and the deceived "imagine" they are friends with Islam. It cannot be so.
What value Islam? None. A false system created by the devil to enslave the tares.
Their end? Is it a mystery?
Again, careful monitoring of all Islamic activities and that of their leading men. I have yet to hear, read scathing rebukes of American Muslims of their more "active" brothers. Surely you have such blazing renunciations in your possession that you'll gladly share with us.
<Heart bleeding>
samuelofisrael
07-21-2012, 04:04 PM
[QUOTE=scotty;1176964]Well, I believe they are "as lost as two boys kissing" as an elder here would say. But that is beside the point. They have a radical side just like christianity does, (shall we talk about Westboro ? )
I do believe there is a peaceful version of Islam. I also believe there is a hypocritical side of Islam, the side that is spreading to other countries in the world all the while proclaiming they are the Great Satan. Just as the 911 hijackers spent their last days drinkin it up in a local night club which is against the very religion they claimed to have martyred themselves for.
I believe a day is coming when those hypocritical sects of Islam's will rise up against the countries they are pouring into, because as I say, why would they condemn these countries at the same time they are lining up to live in them unless they had another motive.
There is no "peaceful" side of Islam. Only civil law here in the USA keeps them in check. Their peaceful side was illustrated circa. 911.
And to be realistic, citing Westboro is more than a joke. Sign holders vs. hijacked aircraft loaded with jet fuel flown into tall buildings with a single trajectory. There is no real world comparison.
Islam's objective is world domination and if it means you on the spit, so be it.
Don't be deceived by the bleeding heart pleading of the enablers and deluded persons who imagine they are winning them over. It will not be the case. Rose garden Christianity and supper on the ground might have been good for great granddad but those days are far behind us.
Islam is a cancer, a clear and present danger in ther republic. Only the ignorant, the gullible, the enablers ask you to allow the scimitar to your throat.
Proceed at your own risk.
Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus.
samuelofisrael
07-21-2012, 04:08 PM
Stop using the "hate card", we have heard that often enough and is starting to get boring.
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About the koran:
The devil is a master in personating God.
He designs false teachings to look like it's from the Lord.
Which IS of God to make it look like it's NOT of God.
And which is NOT of God to make it like it IS of God.
Nothing hateful concerning calling a spade a spade. Addressing the real world in real world terms is not hate but enlightenment.
And what does your comment have to do with the fact Islam is a demonic system?
Professing Christians [it seems] are the most deceived concerning these matters or is it just the most ignorant? Soon they will receive another wake up call.
Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 04:42 PM
You are deluded if you believe that these boys who performed acts that would in some countries get them whipped and other countries get them imprisoned (drinking as muslims) represent Islam
Your words: "Islam is a cancer, a clear and present danger in ther republic" are not new words at all. Consider the below:
"I ask Roosevelt, I ask the American people: Are you prepared to receive in your midst these well-poisoners of the German people and the universal spirit of Christianity?"
"Don't be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don't think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst." Words by Adolph Hitler during his rise to power
The cancer to which you refer is called intolerance. Tolerance was good enough for our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers, but my fear is that it will not be good enough for us.
[QUOTE=scotty;1176964]Well, I believe they are "as lost as two boys kissing" as an elder here would say. But that is beside the point. They have a radical side just like christianity does, (shall we talk about Westboro ? )
I do believe there is a peaceful version of Islam. I also believe there is a hypocritical side of Islam, the side that is spreading to other countries in the world all the while proclaiming they are the Great Satan. Just as the 911 hijackers spent their last days drinkin it up in a local night club which is against the very religion they claimed to have martyred themselves for.
I believe a day is coming when those hypocritical sects of Islam's will rise up against the countries they are pouring into, because as I say, why would they condemn these countries at the same time they are lining up to live in them unless they had another motive.
There is no "peaceful" side of Islam. Only civil law here in the USA keeps them in check. Their peaceful side was illustrated circa. 911.
And to be realistic, citing Westboro is more than a joke. Sign holders vs. hijacked aircraft loaded with jet fuel flown into tall buildings with a single trajectory. There is no real world comparison.
Islam's objective is world domination and if it means you on the spit, so be it.
Don't be deceived by the bleeding heart pleading of the enablers and deluded persons who imagine they are winning them over. It will not be the case. Rose garden Christianity and supper on the ground might have been good for great granddad but those days are far behind us.
Islam is a cancer, a clear and present danger in ther republic. Only the ignorant, the gullible, the enablers ask you to allow the scimitar to your throat.
Proceed at your own risk.
Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus.
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 04:50 PM
Please, WII, the guy is obv determined to have an enemy personified.
Keeps him from looking in the mirror.
If the grass in his yard is so established, why would he fear the weeds?
Ignorant, antichristian rhetoric, signed with Christ's name;
what else is new?
Let him answer "Ishmael was blessed of God,"
which he must surely continue to ignore,
and let the devil have him.
scotty
07-21-2012, 04:50 PM
You are deluded if you believe that these boys who performed acts that would in some countries get them whipped and other countries get them imprisoned (drinking as muslims) represent Islam
Didn't say they represented Islam. That was the point behind the 'hypocrisy' statement.
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 04:51 PM
oh, and ps, a licker of the fourth reich
accusing Islam of desiring world domination
is just priceless.
I'm curious, SOI, if you would agree that
"The South shall rise again?"
lol
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 05:07 PM
The continual linking of every muslim on the planet with the (ten long since dead) 911 hijackers most assuredly implies that it is believed, at least in some minds, that they represent Islam
Didn't say they represented Islam. That was the point behind the 'hypocrisy' statement.
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 05:11 PM
Now byrd nobody said anything about reich. It was just being mildly pointed out that the offered message, though entertaining, is neither a new message nor a message that our founders and forefathers were all that supportive of. If it however waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck maybe we should start practicing our "heils" and start an underground railroad.
Not the first time "christian actions" resulted in "underground railroad" reaction now is it? LOL
oh, and ps, a licker of the fourth reich
accusing Islam of desiring world domination
is just priceless.
I'm curious, SOI, if you would agree that
"The South shall rise again?"
lol
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 07:22 PM
Ha. Our specialty.
(They're all dead now? Hmm)
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 07:31 PM
SOI, I did not mean to be rude,
but your posts are frankly heinous,
and you can only be forgiven because
you are so obviously parroting in ignorance.
The overwhelming majority of Muslims
are great people. I certainly don't expect you
to just believe this, after all the indoc,
and I wouldn't recommend you test their patience
in your present frame of mind,
but consider where your impressions
of Muslims have been formed, if you will.
It is those who glibly blurt
"lost as two boys kissing,"
who claim to speak for God,
that you should fear.
bbyrd009
07-21-2012, 07:33 PM
As an aside, I have you narrowed down (ha, dbl E)
to Alabama, or Mississippi, or possibly Missouri-
-in pretty much that order, (haven't looked at whois yet)
and I wondered if you cared to settle the bet...
if you get me. Peace
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 08:00 PM
I would confidently venture that those particular hijackers are yes dead and that they afterwards were probably stunned to know that (1) killing innocents is hateful to God and (2) they died as simple murderers and for nothing.
It is deeply viewed within Islam that it is a sin to put a black mark on Islam itself and if they did one thing in addition to murdering innocent people they did this. Their rewards were received as written and they were not the rewards that must have been indoctrinated into their minds. The same reward is due those who indoctrinated them however God is extremely patient and will dole it out in due time.
It is to us to open our doors and become positive part of our communities and that is our task. We can otherwise no more answer to those murders than any one of you can answer to the till-diggers, or child molesters, or racists, or rabble-rousers in your own ranks.
Ha. Our specialty.
(They're all dead now? Hmm)
canam
07-21-2012, 10:15 PM
oh, and ps, a licker of the fourth reich
accusing Islam of desiring world domination
is just priceless.
I'm curious, SOI, if you would agree that
"The South shall rise again?"
lol
dey savin their dixie cups cause the south gonna rise agin :)
Walks_in_islam
07-21-2012, 10:32 PM
<grins>
Smart money is he's from north of I20
dey savin their dixie cups cause the south gonna rise agin :)
canam
07-21-2012, 11:43 PM
<grins>
Smart money is he's from north of I20
:thumbsup :)
RandyWayne
07-22-2012, 01:18 AM
As an aside, I have you narrowed down (ha, dbl E)
to Alabama, or Mississippi, or possibly Missouri-
-in pretty much that order, (haven't looked at whois yet)
and I wondered if you cared to settle the bet...
if you get me. Peace
<Humming "White Rabbit".>
samuelofisrael
07-22-2012, 03:48 AM
Please, WII, the guy is obv determined to have an enemy personified.
Keeps him from looking in the mirror.
If the grass in his yard is so established, why would he fear the weeds?
Ignorant, antichristian rhetoric, signed with Christ's name;
what else is new?
Let him answer "Ishmael was blessed of God,"
which he must surely continue to ignore,
and let the devil have him.
The "religion of peace"
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/finally-muslim-rape-epidemic-in-spotlight/
Being "blessed" as a man and the faith system are two different issues. Are you saying Islam is blessed of God as Issac was chosen? Was "the" Covenant established with Ishmael or Issac? Did the True and Living God bring Messiah via the Ishamaelites or via Issac and his descendent?
In America we have a "fifth column" unwitting and ignorant and gullible tho they may be. They are the "religious quislings," men who are moved of the serpent, controlled by the dark one. They do his bidding cloaked as "love" and "tolerance." The correct term is "blindness" and rank "stupidity." We can fix ignorance as the saying goes but "stupidity" is hopeless.
Islam the "religion," the spirit behind it that wars against the True and Living God is a cancer, an oozing pus filled decaying malady on the human race.
No, Islam is not blessed and neither are men who fill the ranks of those who support its tenets, tolerate them, ignore them or enable them. They are warring against the Spirit of Truth.
Even so, come quickly Lord Yeshua
scotty
07-22-2012, 05:22 AM
The continual linking of every muslim on the planet with the (ten long since dead) 911 hijackers most assuredly implies that it is believed, at least in some minds, that they represent Islam
While 911 is the most popular, it is hardly the only scenerio performed in the name of Islam.
Regardless, I do believe their are two sides to Islam and have stated so.
Walks_in_islam
07-22-2012, 11:28 AM
Your article went to the same round file that the articles about how terrible it is that poor mistreated Muslim women have to follow the strict dress code and how terrible the rule about being accompanied by a close relative or husband must be.
So which represents Islam? The "terrible" modesty rules or the referenced "rape epidemic"? The two are completely opposite. The referenced "rape epidemic" actually does not have even a single word or source within Muslim teaching so maybe the subject pakistani perps are not actually practicing Muslims at all. Maybe they follow the same train of thought that the pimps in the Big Easy or the Asian massage parlor operators in Houston or LA or the Washington escort services that service our congressmen and their staff follow. Because if this is the case then they are just brown skinned street criminals who happen to come from a country with a lot of Muslims so they get lumped with your current "main enemy", said enemy without which you would have no identity or self-worth and without which you could not function.
I think the reason that you look overseas for such things to justify the creation of a phantom enemy here is because of the spiritual impotence you feel deep inside that you don't talk about at your parties in not being able to clean the smell from your own streets and neighborhoods.
Your rhetoric, while interesting, mirrors the rhetoric of generations before you and is identical to the rhetoric that the most radical of islamic speakers and the most radical of fascists and the most hard-line of the commies who want to rally this or that group will use to garmer support for this or that cause. This rhetoric does not, by the way, make one unique or special. It simply puts you on the side that many good Americans, some of whom you are currently being critical of, have shed blood to have taken down with dispatch.
Save your words. I know this for a fact: There is nothing to fear from the prayer of the impotent. Your spiritual impotence has already led you to resort to screaming empty insults and spouting empty and certainly conflicting rhetoric.
The "religion of peace"
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/finally-muslim-rape-epidemic-in-spotlight/
Being "blessed" as a man and the faith system are two different issues. Are you saying Islam is blessed of God as Issac was chosen? Was "the" Covenant established with Ishmael or Issac? Did the True and Living God bring Messiah via the Ishamaelites or via Issac and his descendent?
In America we have a "fifth column" unwitting and ignorant and gullible tho they may be. They are the "religious quislings," men who are moved of the serpent, controlled by the dark one. They do his bidding cloaked as "love" and "tolerance." The correct term is "blindness" and rank "stupidity." We can fix ignorance as the saying goes but "stupidity" is hopeless.
Islam the "religion," the spirit behind it that wars against the True and Living God is a cancer, an oozing pus filled decaying malady on the human race.
No, Islam is not blessed and neither are men who fill the ranks of those who support its tenets, tolerate them, ignore them or enable them. They are warring against the Spirit of Truth.
Even so, come quickly Lord Yeshua
bbyrd009
07-22-2012, 11:51 AM
The Qur'an and the Bible both seem to refute you, SOI;
I might ask, "How do you know?" to get another empty answer,
as I know that God judges a Muslim's heart the same way He will judge mine;
and yours.
The Qur'an plainly states that Christ is to be followed,
so anyone not doing so is not a Muslim.
That they might use some different words
in their particulars is not a justification for your
blanket condemnations, imo, and you strike me as a just man otherwise.
Jim Jones claimed to be a Christian; is he your brother?
What is the difference?
bbyrd009
07-22-2012, 11:53 AM
Or, what is the diff in your attitude v a crusader's?
Walks_in_islam
07-24-2012, 05:37 PM
He's gone away to research some more articles.
Or, what is the diff in your attitude v a crusader's?
larrylyates
04-17-2013, 06:13 AM
Hmm; how would Jesus pursue a lawsuit against
a God-fearing religion, hmm...
That is an interesting statement. Exactly which "god" again is it that islamists 'fear?" It is certainly not the One True and Living God in Christ.
Walks_in_islam
05-11-2013, 07:31 PM
That is an interesting statement. Exactly which "god" again is it that islamists 'fear?" It is certainly not the One True and Living God in Christ.
It is the One True and Living God of:
Idris (Enoch)
Nuh (Noah)
Hud (Heber)
Salih (Methusaleh)
Lut (Lot)
Ibrahim (Abraham)
Ismail (Ishmael)
Ishaq (Isaac)
Yaqub (Jacob)
Yusuf (Joseph)
Shu’aib (Jethro)
Ayyub (Job)
Dhulkifl (Ezekiel)
Musa (Moses)
Harun (Aaron)
Dawud (David)
Sulayman (Solomon)
Ilias (Elias)
Alyasa (Elisha)
Yunus (Jonah)
Zakariya (Zachariah)
Yahya (John the Baptist)
Isa (Jesus)
Muhammad
who Muslims fear
Allah is the moon god, we serve Jesus Christ, God manifest in flesh, who made the moon.
Walks_in_islam
05-11-2013, 07:54 PM
Allah is the moon god, we serve Jesus Christ, God manifest in flesh, who made the moon.
Allah is EL/ELI who your bible teaches (and names) Jesus prayed to from his cross
Walks_in_islam
05-11-2013, 08:12 PM
Nope.
Yeah. Afraid so.
But most of you get lied to by your teachers/ministers on what appears to be a regular basis.
Your belief is much like the story of JeZEUS being renamed from his real name (Joshua or Yeshua) after the Roman sun god. I doubt you associate the two however.
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