The green star that visited W. Branham many times

[Petrus50]

And also about the vibrations and getting hot of the hand .

47-1102 THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_ PHOENIX.AZ SUNDAY_
"I know not. But in the room that night when He came (to you people)... It appeared to me many times in a form of a--of a star. I've seen it many times. But when it came visible, it was a Man that would seemingly would weigh two hundred pounds"
And I looked, and the Light got greater. And just above me hung a great Star. And the Light was kind of a, more of a green, between green and yellow, shining on the floor. And coming walking through this Light, came a Man that looked like, as I said before, would weigh two hundred pounds, a huge Man. He did not have beard over His face, like Christ's picture does. Who He is, I do not know.

How the Angel Came to Me, and His Commission
And-and right in here there was a-a Light on the floor, and I thought, “Well, where's that? Well, that couldn't be coming...” I looked around. And here iIt was above me, this very same Light, right there above me, hanging right like that. Circling around like a fire, kind of an emerald color, going, “Whoossh, whoossh, whoossh!” like that, Just above It, like that. And I looked at that, and I thought, “What is That?” Now, It scared me.

47-1102.. THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_.. PHOENIX.AZ.. SUNDAY
...Judgment of God, where I'll have to give an account for every word that I... Every word that I have spoke, I'll have to answer for it. But all of a sudden my hand, the one which the gift comes through, the vibrations, got real hot. And I...


Green lights ,stars , vibrations of the hand , also the hot hand. All things we find all to often in the occult. Why do christians in the message see no wrong in this?

[seekerman]

And also about the vibrations and getting hot of the hand .

47-1102 THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_ PHOENIX.AZ SUNDAY_
"I know not. But in the room that night when He came (to you people)... It appeared to me many times in a form of a--of a star. I've seen it many times. But when it came visible, it was a Man that would seemingly would weigh two hundred pounds"
And I looked, and the Light got greater. And just above me hung a great Star. And the Light was kind of a, more of a green, between green and yellow, shining on the floor. And coming walking through this Light, came a Man that looked like, as I said before, would weigh two hundred pounds, a huge Man. He did not have beard over His face, like Christ's picture does. Who He is, I do not know.

How the Angel Came to Me, and His Commission
And-and right in here there was a-a Light on the floor, and I thought, “Well, where's that? Well, that couldn't be coming...” I looked around. And here iIt was above me, this very same Light, right there above me, hanging right like that. Circling around like a fire, kind of an emerald color, going, “Whoossh, whoossh, whoossh!” like that, Just above It, like that. And I looked at that, and I thought, “What is That?” Now, It scared me.

47-1102.. THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_.. PHOENIX.AZ.. SUNDAY
...Judgment of God, where I'll have to give an account for every word that I... Every word that I have spoke, I'll have to answer for it. But all of a sudden my hand, the one which the gift comes through, the vibrations, got real hot. And I...


Green lights ,stars , vibrations of the hand , also the hot hand. All things we find all to often in the occult. Why do christians in the message see no wrong in this?

Why would there be wrong in this? Interaction with God is very very strange many times.

[Petrus50]

Why would there be wrong in this? Interaction with God is very very strange many times.

Sure, Paul and Peter always waited with praying for the sick for the star to appear . And their vibrating hands.
:neener

[bbyrd009]

Ha touche'. Any record of Branham
testing these, this spirit?

[seekerman]

Sure, Paul and Peter always waited with praying for the sick for the star to appear . And their vibrating hands.
:neener

You're suggesting something normal like someone's shadow passing over another person healing them or maybe a bright light from heaven with a disembodied voice that others can't hear? Or maybe making a spit poultice to apply to a blind person's eyes?

[Petrus50]

You're suggesting something normal like someone's shadow passing over another person healing them or maybe a bright light from heaven with a disembodied voice that others can't hear? Or maybe making a spit poultice to apply to a blind person's eyes?

I see no green stars or vibrating hot hands in this. Shadows and spit is something we see every day. And this bright light ? Are you referring to Saul ? Knocked of his high horse.

[Petrus50]

From:
http://angels.about.com/od/AngelBasics/p/What-Are-Angel-Colors-The-Green-Ray.htm


What it Represents:
The green angel light ray represents healing and prosperity. This ray is part of the metaphysical system of angel colors based on seven different light rays: blue, yellow, pink, white, green, red, and purple. Some people believe that the light waves for the seven angel colors vibrate at different electromagnetic energy frequencies in the universe, attracting the angels that have similar kinds of energy. Others believe that the colors are just fun ways of symbolizing the different types ofmissions that God sends angels on to help people.
Archangel:
Raphael, the archangel of healing, is in charge of the green light ray. Raphael works to bring people closer to God so they can experience the healing peace that God wants to give them.
Life Situations in the Green Ray:
When praying in the green ray, you can ask God to send archangel Raphael and the angels who work with him to help you heal from whatever illnesses

[Petrus50]

And about the vibrating hand what have we here?
From
http://www.williambranhamhomepage.org/morethan.htm

With sign in his hand Branham was able to detect the affliction, disease or spirit that was troubling the individual. When the individual place their right hand in his right hand, Bro. Branham would feel a vibration in his own hand (something like an electric current) and certain swellings would appear on the back of his hand. This power was so real that it would cause his wrist watch to stop instantly. But after rebuking and casting out the evil spirit though prayer, his hand would return to normal. Of course Bro. Branham's hand would be numb for hours after he had finished praying for a number of people

http://branham.org/MessageSearch
47-1102.. THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_.. PHOENIX.AZ.. SUNDAY_
But all of a sudden my hand, the one which the gift comes through, the vibrations, got real hot. And I...


Notice the similarities, it's very striking:



http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=8672

I bring all of you good news. How many of us had been asking what is this vibration/tingling, bouncy, hot, warm and cold sensation we feel in our hands.

For now I will discuss about our metaphysical hands. This is the subtle hands you received from God.
Function:
1. As an alarm when there is a presence of spirit.

When you feel nothing and suddenly your hands start to vibrate subtly that means there is a spirit or can be occult object nearby.

If their energy is very strong, you hands can vibrate like crazy.

If you feel that the spirit is getting into your hand, now clench your hand. You might feel strong vibration or hot or warm invisible

http://voices.yahoo.com/understanding-sensations-reiki-1977230.html

Understanding the Sensations of Reiki

If you're interested in Reiki, the simple and natural system of touch healing, you will probably want to know what it feels like. In this article, I will examine the sensations of Reiki healing and what they mean.
You may feel heat or coolness, tingling, buzzing, vibration, numbness, throbbing or itchiness. It's very common to feel sleepy and experience yawning during a Reiki session as the energies soothe and calm you.
It is taught that once you attain your Reiki level 1 attunement, you will have hot hands.
Another of the most common sensations of Reiki is the feeling of additional hands participating in the Reiki session. One explanation of this phenomena is that spirit guides are present and lending their energy to the treatment.
When you are properly attuned, there may be times when the Reiki energy will build up in your hands. This will create an orb of energy, a pulsating ball that can be one of the oddest sensations of Reiki to experience.
The Sensations of Reiki - Vibrations
Vibrating hands is also one of the more common sensations of Reiki. When energy is being drawn from your palms at a faster rate than you are accustomed to, your hands may begin to vibrate.

[samuelofisrael]

There are three kinds of diagnosticians used by the Navajo

1. The Hand Trembler

2. The Star Gazer

3. The Listener

When it is a case of diagnosing some stubborn ailment, or when it is desired to learn if a past event has cast a malicious influence over a certain person or family, the "Shaking Hand" ceremony is generally employed.

"During prayer and thereafter the diagnostician sits with eyes closed and face averted, and as soon as the singing begins his extended hand usually begins to shake. While the hand is moving the diagnostician thinks of various diseases. When something happens which tells him that he is thinking of the correct one, he then thinks of various chants that might cure the disease; then of what medicine man might be the best one to give the chant, then perhaps of plant medicines or other therapeutic measure which might be used. After all the information has been divined the shaking hand stops and the diagnostician opens his eyes and tells those assembled what he has discovered."

***
In this brief account we find several factors common in evangelical healing lines or personal visitations.

1. Discovery of the reason for the illness or malady...discernment

2. Visible manifestation during interview, either touching or other means.

3. Word of knowledge to effect the healing.

4. Once discovered the shaking hand stops.

In the case of Oral Roberts and William Branham, both of some American Indian descent, each had the, "swelling hand" manifestation. One evangelist had the swelling in right hand and the other evangelist had it in the left hand. It is said the type of disease could be detected in this manner.

As we have read (assuming one believes the account) the American Indians had a similiar procedure to detect and then to heal diseases.

What are we to make of this?

[samuelofisrael]

WHITE CROW'S HEALING

One day when my father was away, my stepmother became ill and lie on her bed in great pain, unable to rise. I sent for White Crow who brought with him no medicine bag, rattle, not the usual drum; neither did he sing or talk to mother, but merely sat and looked at her as she rolled in pain. After a while he took a small piece of root which he had with him and cut it in two smaller pieces, telling mother to chew one of the pieces and swallow it then chew the second piece and rub it on her chest where the pain was located. This mother did as quickly as possible, for she was seriously ill. Her recovery was almost immediate, for it seemed no more than five minutes before she was up and preparing food for White Crow. I was so delighted and curious, that I offered White Crow my best horse if he would give me the name of the plant. He refused and I then offered him fifty dollars, but I found it was not purchasable at any price.

Standing Bear's report emphasized the power of the medicine, but also suggested White Crow could look inside the woman and see some kind of organic or chemical deficiency and the medicine she needed to overcome her illness. But this ability (if true) should not overshadow the fact that White Crow's knowledge of plants must have been spectacular, since he was able to find the correct root to give her.

***

It has long been known that many American Indian medicine men were knowledgeable of the healing properties of roots, barks, leaves and plants. Healing by various means is a universal practice and not limited to Christians. Word of Knowledge, discernment of diseases, prescriptions by diagnosis brought restored health to many tribes until the ravages of the white man's world infected them with European or Asian diseases. For reasons unknown they were not able to counter those messengers of death. We might wish to speculate that the time had come to depopulate one strain of the family of man to make way for another ethnic branch of the race of Adam.

Edgar Cayce gave readings that were imminently successful, diagnosed many ills and prescribed cures. Spiritualists have been successful in like manner, also seeing afar, second sight, prophecy, accurate prediction. One notable spiritualist after many years under the sway of his "spirit guide" gave sage advice, 'one must be very careful, the spirits often lie.' Here we have it from the horse's mouth as it were. While under the influence of deceiving spirits, who sometimes tell the truth (when it serves their purpose) will lie in the "next breath.". That agrees with those accounts where men and women listen to deceiving spirits, predicted accurately in some cases but missed the mark by light years in other cases. The "spirits" cannot be trusted.

[Petrus50]

It's also notable that the prediction of California breaking off and falling into the ocean comes from Edgar Cayce , the same thing that Branham prophecied later on in 1933. And both were from Kentucky.

[Petrus50]

There are three kinds of diagnosticians used by the Navajo

1. The Hand Trembler

2. The Star Gazer

3. The Listener

When it is a case of diagnosing some stubborn ailment, or when it is desired to learn if a past event has cast a malicious influence over a certain person or family, the "Shaking Hand" ceremony is generally employed.

"During prayer and thereafter the diagnostician sits with eyes closed and face averted, and as soon as the singing begins his extended hand usually begins to shake. While the hand is moving the diagnostician thinks of various diseases. When something happens which tells him that he is thinking of the correct one, he then thinks of various chants that might cure the disease; then of what medicine man might be the best one to give the chant, then perhaps of plant medicines or other therapeutic measure which might be used. After all the information has been divined the shaking hand stops and the diagnostician opens his eyes and tells those assembled what he has discovered."

***
In this brief account we find several factors common in evangelical healing lines or personal visitations.

1. Discovery of the reason for the illness or malady...discernment

2. Visible manifestation during interview, either touching or other means.

3. Word of knowledge to effect the healing.

4. Once discovered the shaking hand stops.

In the case of Oral Roberts and William Branham, both of some American Indian descent, each had the, "swelling hand" manifestation. One evangelist had the swelling in right hand and the other evangelist had it in the left hand. It is said the type of disease could be detected in this manner.

As we have read (assuming one believes the account) the American Indians had a similar procedure to detect and then to heal diseases.

What are we to make of this?

I don't see Jesus Christ doing this and no disciple of Him. Furthermore Jesus said the believers to lay hands on the sick. And James said the elders to anoint with oil and the believers prayer will heal the sick. So just believing , nothing more.

So what do we see with Branham? First waiting for a 'presence' and than waiting for a vibration.
I call this adding to the scripture.

[samuelofisrael]

It's also notable that the prediction of California breaking off and falling into the ocean comes from Edgar Cayce , the same thing that Branham prophecied later on in 1933. And both were from Kentucky.

The extended vision/dream [?] of California breaking off sliding into the Pacific Ocean [2012] was before WMB. He actually lifted the story from a boy who had the visions/dreams [?] in the 1930's. That story is online. WMB borrowed many experiences from others, dates, etc. There is no extant evidence he had the alleged 7 visions he later recounted in the 1950's as being given to him in 1933.

More than one prophecy was related AFTER the event.

There are far too many red flags in his ministry to implicitly trust William as a sent prophet of the Biblical kind.

Shalom.

[Petrus50]

The extended vision/dream [?] of California breaking off sliding into the Pacific Ocean [2012] was before WMB. He actually lifted the story from a boy who had the visions/dreams [?] in the 1930's. That story is online. WMB borrowed many experiences from others, dates, etc. There is no extant evidence he had the alleged 7 visions he later recounted in the 1950's as being given to him in 1933.

More than one prophecy was related AFTER the event.

There are far too many red flags in his ministry to implicitly trust William as a sent prophet of the Biblical kind.

Shalom.

1937 Dream of the End Times LA & San Fran Earthquakes - Joe Brandt...
http://raptureintheairnow.com/dreams-amp-visions/1937-la-earthquake-dream-joe-brandt-prophetic

And it's known that the 'original' 7 visions in 1933 of Branham are conviently missing.

[samuelofisrael]

Since you posted the link I've deleted the long narrative.

Thanks.

[samuelofisrael]

1937 Dream of the End Times LA & San Fran Earthquakes - Joe Brandt...
http://raptureintheairnow.com/dreams-amp-visions/1937-la-earthquake-dream-joe-brandt-prophetic

And it's known that the 'original' 7 visions in 1933 of Branham are conviently missing.

Very convenient indeed.

[Petrus50]

Since you posted the link I've deleted the long narrative.

Thanks.

You're welcome. Glade I can contribute here for the truth.

[amerscot51]

Sure, Paul and Peter always waited with praying for the sick for the star to appear . And their vibrating hands.
:neenerwhere is that in the Bible you should be able to give clear chapter and verse.

[shazeep]

where is that in the Bible you should be able to give clear chapter and verse.he was...kidding, being facetious.

[Esaias]

I didn't know Branham died in Jerusalem, because it CANNOT BE that a prophet perish outside Jerusalem?

Oh, wait...

[shazeep]

i think that verse was meant to be facetious, too :lol

[mfblume]

And also about the vibrations and getting hot of the hand .

47-1102 THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_ PHOENIX.AZ SUNDAY_
"I know not. But in the room that night when He came (to you people)... It appeared to me many times in a form of a--of a star. I've seen it many times. But when it came visible, it was a Man that would seemingly would weigh two hundred pounds"
And I looked, and the Light got greater. And just above me hung a great Star. And the Light was kind of a, more of a green, between green and yellow, shining on the floor. And coming walking through this Light, came a Man that looked like, as I said before, would weigh two hundred pounds, a huge Man. He did not have beard over His face, like Christ's picture does. Who He is, I do not know.

How the Angel Came to Me, and His Commission
And-and right in here there was a-a Light on the floor, and I thought, “Well, where's that? Well, that couldn't be coming...” I looked around. And here iIt was above me, this very same Light, right there above me, hanging right like that. Circling around like a fire, kind of an emerald color, going, “Whoossh, whoossh, whoossh!” like that, Just above It, like that. And I looked at that, and I thought, “What is That?” Now, It scared me.

47-1102.. THE.ANGEL.OF.GOD_.. PHOENIX.AZ.. SUNDAY
...Judgment of God, where I'll have to give an account for every word that I... Every word that I have spoke, I'll have to answer for it. But all of a sudden my hand, the one which the gift comes through, the vibrations, got real hot. And I...


Green lights ,stars , vibrations of the hand , also the hot hand. All things we find all to often in the occult. Why do christians in the message see no wrong in this?

Sounds like a witch hunt.

[Strict Baptist]

A pastor Ruff who worked with Branham ceased working with him when he noted traits of spiritism in his ministry. He is important to Pentecostal history for being the evangelistic pace-setter and like JA Dowie, CF Parham and others in Pentecostal history thought himself Elijah the Restorer (John Baptist in Parham's case). He was a truly odd one and in my opinion a false teacher who regrettably did not listen to the wise, loving rebukes of those who saw through the occultism in his life stemming multiple generations.

Perhaps most interesting was AH Phol's interview with Dr DW Cloud exposing Branham's false healings. Cloud has a decent book on him at wayoflife.org, his website. I do not endorse him, though.