Words in the Bible Most Christians Don’t Believe

[larrylyates]

But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:3)

Consider this passage:

Luke 10:19 – The Believer’s Authority
19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you

Note the underlined words, “all” and “nothing.” These words are absolutes, meaning that there are no exceptions. That means that there is not even one bit of power that the enemy has over us. Jesus gave us power (authority) over every single bit of the enemy’s power (ability). In addition, it says that nothing shall hurt us. That means that Jesus has given us authority over everything. Jesus is telling us that His (God’s) will is that nothing should ever hurt us and has solidified it by declaring it in His Word.

Do you see how these absolute words, like “all” and “nothing” change the meaning of the verse when you take them literally? The words, “all” and “nothing” in this verse add up to a powerful promise, but since we may not have experienced it in our lives it can be difficult to believe.

It is important to believe these promises, because God works by faith. We experience His promises when we believe they are true. Below are more words in the Bible that most Christians don’t believe. God’s Word takes on new meaning when we contemplate absolute words such as these:
∗ Any
∗ Everything
∗ Whatsoever
∗ All
∗ Nothing
∗ Whosoever

The purpose of this series of articles is not to prove that God’s Word is true, but to use the truth of God’s Word to prove divine healing. The Word of God is the foundation for all our beliefs.

When it comes to God’s Word, partial believing is the same as not believing. Partial believing is partial doubting and when you doubt (are double-minded) you will not receive God’s promises. A partial truth is a complete lie.

Do you believe God’s Word – ALL of it?

[Timmy]

But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:3)

Consider this passage:

Luke 10:19 – The Believer’s Authority
19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you

Note the underlined words, “all” and “nothing.” These words are absolutes, meaning that there are no exceptions. That means that there is not even one bit of power that the enemy has over us. Jesus gave us power (authority) over every single bit of the enemy’s power (ability). In addition, it says that nothing shall hurt us. That means that Jesus has given us authority over everything. Jesus is telling us that His (God’s) will is that nothing should ever hurt us and has solidified it by declaring it in His Word.

Do you see how these absolute words, like “all” and “nothing” change the meaning of the verse when you take them literally? The words, “all” and “nothing” in this verse add up to a powerful promise, but since we may not have experienced it in our lives it can be difficult to believe.

It is important to believe these promises, because God works by faith. We experience His promises when we believe they are true. Below are more words in the Bible that most Christians don’t believe. God’s Word takes on new meaning when we contemplate absolute words such as these:
∗ Any
∗ Everything
∗ Whatsoever
∗ All
∗ Nothing
∗ Whosoever

The purpose of this series of articles is not to prove that God’s Word is true, but to use the truth of God’s Word to prove divine healing. The Word of God is the foundation for all our beliefs.

When it comes to God’s Word, partial believing is the same as not believing. Partial believing is partial doubting and when you doubt (are double-minded) you will not receive God’s promises. A partial truth is a complete lie.

Do you believe God’s Word – ALL of it?

Do you?

[larrylyates]

Do you?

That's a rather interesting question, in light of our previous encounters. I would think the answer obvious. However, I will answer in the affirmative!!

[Timmy]

That's a rather interesting question, in light of our previous encounters. I would think the answer obvious. However, I will answer in the affirmative!!

The answer is obvious. And it's not "affirmative". Anyone can see that -- even an ultracon like OPII.

[larrylyates]

The answer is obvious. And it's not "affirmative". Anyone can see that -- even an ultracon like OPII.

Is there any specific area in which you can demonstrate that I do not believe the Word?

[Timmy]

Is there any specific area in which you can demonstrate that I do not believe the Word?

If you believed what you say you believe, you would (it seems to me) jump at the chance to demonstrate God's power at a local hospital.

So why don't you tell me why you will not?

[larrylyates]

If you believed what you say you believe, you would (it seems to me) jump at the chance to demonstrate God's power at a local hospital.

So why don't you tell me why you will not?

We are in the local hospitals 3 days a week with teams of 2 people each. We also minister in the local nursing homes as well as hospice. I am part of the Pastoral Care Team at the largest hospital in the Tri-State area and am there 3-4 hours at least 4 days a week. additionally, each of our CARE TEAM's is responsible for ministering to 20 new homes each month in their neighborhoods. We walk our talk on a daily basis.

My question was, "Is there any specific area in which you can demonstrate that I do not believe the Word?" That was what you were accusing me of, wasn't it? Not our ministry outreach.

[Timmy]

We are in the local hospitals 3 days a week with teams of 2 people each. We also minister in the local nursing homes as well as hospice. I am part of the Pastoral Care Team at the largest hospital in the Tri-State area and am there 3-4 hours at least 4 days a week. additionally, each of our CARE TEAM's is responsible for ministering to 20 new homes each month in their neighborhoods. We walk our talk on a daily basis.

My question was, "Is there any specific area in which you can demonstrate that I do not believe the Word?" That was what you were accusing me of, wasn't it? Not our ministry outreach.

Have you sent home 60-70% of the patients?

(I shudder to think what you ministry entails for hospice.)

OK, here is a specific scripture that you do not believe:

Is any sick among you? call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Now you will say you do believe it. But you don't. And why don't you? Because you know it isn't actually true. And you will say that you practice it. But you don't. You only practice it when you think it might "work". Back pain. Cancer. Headaches. Can't raise arm higher than this. Maybe a leg shorter than the other. These healings "work" because they are not immediately verifiable. Cancer can and very often does go into remission, sometimes even without medical treatment. (Though I bet you have taken credit for many a cancer "healing" that God accomplished through chemo and radiation.) Pain is subjective -- adrenaline and endorphins can hide it completely.

That's how you get your 60-70%. No? OK, show me video and documentation of a Downs Syndrome healing, or an amputee's healing.

What do you do at the hospital 3 times a week? Do you go room to room and heal 60-70% of the patients? I'd like to see it. Seriously. I will travel to your city and watch, if you claim that this is what happens.

How about raising the dead? I'd bet good money that you once prayed for someone who wasn't breathing, and they suddenly started breathing again. And it was purely coincidental that paramedics were also trying to raise him or her. You do not go into a morgue and raise anyone. And you won't. You know that it will not work. Your batting average would fall drastically if you tried it.

From your "Miracles In Action" site:

Do You Make Excuses for Failure?
A general rule of thumb is that you never analyze your victories, just your defeats. A good indicator of your honesty toward the Word of God is how you deal with a failure. If you are ‘standing on God’s Word’ for healing and the person dies, how do you react? Do you go on quoting Scripture and ‘speaking faith’ or do you revert to excuses. The same excuses you were taught, but can’t be found in the Bible.

What do you do 30-40% of the time, Dr. Yates?

[larrylyates]

Have you sent home 60-70% of the patients?

(I shudder to think what you ministry entails for hospice.)

OK, here is a specific scripture that you do not believe:

Is any sick among you? call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Now you will say you do believe it. But you don't. And why don't you? Because you know it isn't actually true. And you will say that you practice it. But you don't. You only practice it when you think it might "work". Back pain. Cancer. Headaches. Can't raise arm higher than this. Maybe a leg shorter than the other. These healings "work" because they are not immediately verifiable. Cancer can and very often does go into remission, sometimes even without medical treatment. (Though I bet you have taken credit for many a cancer "healing" that God accomplished through chemo and radiation.) Pain is subjective -- adrenaline and endorphins can hide it completely.

That's how you get your 60-70%. No? OK, show me video and documentation of a Downs Syndrome healing, or an amputee's healing.

What do you do at the hospital 3 times a week? Do you go room to room and heal 60-70% of the patients? I'd like to see it. Seriously. I will travel to your city and watch, if you claim that this is what happens.

How about raising the dead? I'd bet good money that you once prayed for someone who wasn't breathing, and they suddenly started breathing again. And it was purely coincidental that paramedics were also trying to raise him or her. You do not go into a morgue and raise anyone. And you won't. You know that it will not work. Your batting average would fall drastically if you tried it.

From your "Miracles In Action" site:

Do You Make Excuses for Failure?
A general rule of thumb is that you never analyze your victories, just your defeats. A good indicator of your honesty toward the Word of God is how you deal with a failure. If you are ‘standing on God’s Word’ for healing and the person dies, how do you react? Do you go on quoting Scripture and ‘speaking faith’ or do you revert to excuses. The same excuses you were taught, but can’t be found in the Bible.

What do you do 30-40% of the time, Dr. Yates?

I took the time to peruse your profile. It has some rather interesting things to say about you.

About Timmy

Biography
Formerly Assembly of God. Now a deist-leaning agnostic.
Location
Texas
Interests
sayin' stuff, photography, beer.
Occupation
Software engineer, and admin at ex-pentecostal forums and at eX-Pentecostal Outreach.

Here is my response to you:
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Matthew 17:17
Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you?

For the sincere seeker who would like further information, it can be found here: http://www.jglm.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=49:jglm-testimonies&layout=blog&Itemid=90&layout=default

Thanks for your time.:thumbsup

[Timmy]

I took the time to peruse your profile. It has some rather interesting things to say about you.

About Timmy

Biography
Formerly Assembly of God. Now a deist-leaning agnostic.
Location
Texas
Interests
sayin' stuff, photography, beer.
Occupation
Software engineer, and admin at ex-pentecostal forums and at eX-Pentecostal Outreach.

Here is my response to you:
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Matthew 17:17
Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you?

For the sincere seeker who would like further information, it can be found here: http://www.jglm.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=49:jglm-testimonies&layout=blog&Itemid=90&layout=default

Thanks for your time.:thumbsup

Fair enough. You are also a "natural man", of course. And it's very convenient to use the "sincere seeker" explanation for why your beliefs don't make any sense. (To this "natural man".) I could use the exact same thing against you, you know.

"A sincere seeker will discover that I am right."

But I won't. It's dishonest, and cheap, and, as I said, convenient.

[Timmy]

From http://www.jglm.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=632:leslie-g&catid=49:jglm-testimonies&Itemid=90:

After years of accepting a walnut allergy..after listening to these teachings, one day I took a bite of a choc chip walnut cookie.(who puts walnuts in CC cookies???) Anyway, all of a sudden the voice came.."you are allergic to walnuts.. your teeth will explode in pain for days and days..you cant eat this !" So I said, "time oooout!" " I dont have to accept this any more, Jesus paid the price and do I receive what is mine in Jesus name! I am going to eat this cookie and 2 MORE!" So I did and have not had any problems since!
PTL!

Is this you recommended method of being healed of allergies? Peanut allergies, e.g.? Which can kill someone severley allergic? Kinda like when doctors said they must operate immediately on Lee Stoneking, and his friends stopped them and said "No, we'll pray" and they did and he was healed? Kinda like that?

I know someone severely allergic to peanuts. Shall I show her your website and make her a PBJ?

[Timmy]

Too many questions all at once? Fine. Let's take them one at a time.

Have you sent home 60-70% of the patients?


Referring to your hospital ministry, here.

[Timmy]

BTW, I am not faithless and I am not perverse. I have faith in people I know, and, well, I guess you'll have to take my word on the perverse thing. ;)

[Timmy]

I should add that I feel for ya, doc. I really do. I remember what it was like trying to believe things that didn't make sense. Trying to obey the command to believe. Which alone doesn't make sense! You must believe this, this, and this? Or suffer the consequences? :blink

[seekerman]

I took the time to peruse your profile. It has some rather interesting things to say about you.

About Timmy

Biography
Formerly Assembly of God. Now a deist-leaning agnostic.
Location
Texas
Interests
sayin' stuff, photography, beer.
Occupation
Software engineer, and admin at ex-pentecostal forums and at eX-Pentecostal Outreach.

Here is my response to you:
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Matthew 17:17
Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you?

For the sincere seeker who would like further information, it can be found here: http://www.jglm.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=49:jglm-testimonies&layout=blog&Itemid=90&layout=default

Thanks for your time.:thumbsup

I for one believe Timmy to be a sincere seeker. I've not seen a bad spirit from him, just very honest questions, comments and observations. I believe he's just as all of us are, attempting to honestly find real answers to real questions while living a real life.

[FlamingZword]

[B]About Timmy

Occupation
Software engineer

Hey Timmy I did not know that about you, lets talk shop.

What kind of work do you do?
Software Programming?
Database programming?
Web Programming?
:icecream

[larrylyates]

I for one believe Timmy to be a sincere seeker. I've not seen a bad spirit from him, just very honest questions, comments and observations. I believe he's just as all of us are, attempting to honestly find real answers to real questions while living a real life.

That's fair enough. I can accept that.

[larrylyates]

I should add that I feel for ya, doc. I really do. I remember what it was like trying to believe things that didn't make sense. Trying to obey the command to believe. Which alone doesn't make sense! You must believe this, this, and this? Or suffer the consequences? :blink

Thanks! We all need a little sympathy and understanding from time to time. Seekerman thinks I have misjudged you. I may be guilty as charged. Ok! How about this: I'll let you be agnostic without trying to 'save your soul." You let me pray for the sick without trying to convince me it's all fake! Deal?

After all tomorrow you'll still be agnostic and I'll still be at the hospital praying for the sick.:thumbsup

[navygoat1998]

Thanks! We all need a little sympathy and understanding from time to time. Seekerman thinks I have misjudged you. I may be guilty as charged. Ok! How about this: I'll let you be agnostic without trying to 'save your soul." You let me pray for the sick without trying to convince me it's all fake! Deal?

After all tomorrow you'll still be agnostic and I'll still be at the hospital praying for the sick.:thumbsup

Doc to be honest I would share a cup of coffee with Timmy in heart beat over some born again blood bought Christians who are just down right mean.

[Timmy]

About Timmy

Occupation
Software engineer

Hey Timmy I did not know that about you, lets talk shop.

What kind of work do you do?
Software Programming?
Database programming?
Web Programming?
:icecream

I'm working on a project codenamed "The Beast". But I can't talk about it. :lol

[larrylyates]

Doc to be honest I would share a cup of coffee with Timmy in heart beat over some born again blood bought Christians who are just down right mean.

See! There you go again! Something else we have to agree on!

Don't even know Timmy outside these pages and I already prefer him to some I sit next to some Sundays! I may disagree with him in toto but at least he's honest.

[Timmy]

Thanks! We all need a little sympathy and understanding from time to time. Seekerman thinks I have misjudged you. I may be guilty as charged. Ok! How about this: I'll let you be agnostic without trying to 'save your soul." You let me pray for the sick without trying to convince me it's all fake! Deal?

After all tomorrow you'll still be agnostic and I'll still be at the hospital praying for the sick.:thumbsup

It doesn't bother me at all if you don't want me to be agnostic. Try to save my soul. You are more than welcome to.

Now, if what you do is real, why are you so reticent to answer questions about it?

Have you sent home 60-70% of the patients?

[Timmy]

Doc to be honest I would share a cup of coffee with Timmy in heart beat over some born again blood bought Christians who are just down right mean.

:highfive

[FlamingZword]

I'm working on a project codenamed "The Beast". But I can't talk about it. :lol

any openings?? :heeheehee

I am an Ancient programmer,
I write my code with chizel on stone
my languages are Fortran, Cobol, Basic.

[larrylyates]

Have you sent home 60-70% of the patients?

Not yet. Most of my success is in our small groups or around the neighborhood.

[navygoat1998]

any openings?? :heeheehee

I am an Ancient programmer,
I write my code with chizel on stone
my languages are Fortran, Cobol, Basic.

I have messed with C++ and that made my head hurt. I can write programs but they are very basic and takes me such a long time to create.

[larrylyates]

I have messed with C++ and that made my head hurt. I can write programs but they are very basic and takes me such a long time to create.

You programming types must have an extra lobe on your brain. At least a foreign language looks like language. I can barely program my remote. hats off to ya!

[Timmy]

any openings?? :heeheehee

I am an Ancient programmer,
I write my code with chizel on stone
my languages are Fortran, Cobol, Basic.

Oh, that's ancient, alright. :lol

I use C++ nowadays. :)

[Timmy]

Have you sent home 60-70% of the patients?

Not yet. Most of my success is in our small groups or around the neighborhood.

Thanks! See, that wasn't so hard, was it? :highfive

[FlamingZword]

Oh, that's ancient, alright. :lol

I use C++ nowadays. :)

I have mountains of books on C++ and Java but I have never bothered to learn them. There is always something getting in the way.

Over the years I learned a few other things, sometimes I learned some stuff, that I never used. The problem was that tech moves so fast; by the time I finally became a master at Windows 3.11, out they came with Windows 95.
:swoon

[bbyrd009]

Thanks! See, that wasn't so hard, was it? :highfive:lol to everything there is a season, pal. Moses covered his face in shame at the fading of the radiance, too...these promises were, arguably, given to the Apostles, capital A, and might just be more...nascent? now, than visible?