What I'm Learning From Islam:

[Aquila]

I've posted something regarding what I've learned from Islam. I'm interested in sharing this idea and hearing some of your thoughts. Here's a link,

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showpost.php?p=1271654&postcount=1

[odooley6985]

I've posted something regarding what I've learned from Islam. I'm interested in sharing this idea and hearing some of your thoughts. Here's a link,

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showpost.php?p=1271654&postcount=1

Good post. Hopefully no one will take this the wrong way, I know some will though, pure Islam is very close to holiness Pentecostalism. That being said, on the subject of prayer, Islamic prayer is very ritualistic and that is putting it mildly. They think it if you dont do certain things, your salah (prayer) will no be accepted. See them pointing their index finger and moving it up and down towards the end of their prayers as an example of this. Also you have to pray in Arabic according to them. Even though there is no Quranic mandate for this. I often wonder and ask muslims online, if GOD really gets praise/joy/pleasure from them repeating and doing the same prayers 5 times a day. I usually get nothing but super defensive answers. I enjoy reading about Islam.

[odooley6985]

O and the Muslims believe in the Psalms of David and the gospels in I am not mistaken. One other thing I dont understand about them, is that they are to make no distinction between all of the prophets of GOD per the Quran, yet they follow Muhammed and believe that his Sunnah(life) is the source of all spiritual law. Seems contradictory.

[Praxeas]

Islamic prayers remind me of Catholics with their prayer beads

[odooley6985]

Islamic prayers remind me of Catholics with their prayer beads

Right.

Pentecostals seem to have more of a relationship with GOD. I have never heard a Muslims say they have a realtionship with GOD. I have never heard one say they love GOD. Its seems that most of them have a respect, awe, and fear of GOD and thats it.

[Praxeas]

Why do you need two different threads with the same topic?

[Dordrecht]

Muslims deny Jesus Christ.
That should tell you something.
End of story.

They are lost like all others who deny that Jesus is the only way to the father.
They are a lost cult, no ifs or buts about it.

End of story....end of a useless "religious" discussion.

[houston]

You are more than welcome to leave.

[Dordrecht]

You are more than welcome to leave.

Bye!

[Michael The Disciple]

They kill Christians. They execute other Muslims who don't worship like they do.

[Ferd]

Good post. Hopefully no one will take this the wrong way, I know some will though, pure Islam is very close to holiness Pentecostalism. That being said, on the subject of prayer, Islamic prayer is very ritualistic and that is putting it mildly. They think it if you dont do certain things, your salah (prayer) will no be accepted. See them pointing their index finger and moving it up and down towards the end of their prayers as an example of this. Also you have to pray in Arabic according to them. Even though there is no Quranic mandate for this. I often wonder and ask muslims online, if GOD really gets praise/joy/pleasure from them repeating and doing the same prayers 5 times a day. I usually get nothing but super defensive answers. I enjoy reading about Islam.

there is no way to take this wrong. YOU are suggesting that good honest Christians are no different from islamic crazies.

That is sick and disgusting. period.

[Aquila]

O and the Muslims believe in the Psalms of David and the gospels in I am not mistaken. One other thing I dont understand about them, is that they are to make no distinction between all of the prophets of GOD per the Quran, yet they follow Muhammed and believe that his Sunnah(life) is the source of all spiritual law. Seems contradictory.

It's my understanding that they believe in the general message of the Torah, the OT prophets, and the Gospels. However, they believe that they have been corrupted by translators and early Jewish and church historians. So, they sift through what they believe to be error in light of... the Qur'an.

They see the Qur'an and the Sunnah as being the purified and final expression of divine will.

[Aquila]

Islamic prayers remind me of Catholics with their prayer beads

In a way, I can see it.

[Aquila]

Right.

Pentecostals seem to have more of a relationship with GOD. I have never heard a Muslims say they have a realtionship with GOD. I have never heard one say they love GOD. Its seems that most of them have a respect, awe, and fear of GOD and thats it.

I ran into that too... until I stumbled across some Sufis. They are awesome in my opinion. lol

[Aquila]

Why do you need two different threads with the same topic?

I don't. It was an advertisement of sorts for the actual thread in Deep Waters. However, people started posting here. lol

[Aquila]

Muslims deny Jesus Christ.
That should tell you something.
End of story.

They are lost like all others who deny that Jesus is the only way to the father.
They are a lost cult, no ifs or buts about it.

End of story....end of a useless "religious" discussion.

Even if we agree with you (and we do), it's still a worthy discussion for those who are interested in the actual topic.

[Aquila]

They kill Christians. They execute other Muslims who don't worship like they do.

Historically "Christians" have killed other Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Every "religion" has blood on it's hands.

[Aquila]

there is no way to take this wrong. YOU are suggesting that good honest Christians are no different from islamic crazies.

That is sick and disgusting. period.

Are you implying that those who do not embrace the traditional teachings of "holiness Pentecostalism" are not good and honest Christians? lol

[Ferd]

Are you implying that those who do not embrace the traditional teachings of "holiness Pentecostalism" are not good and honest Christians? lol

no. i am implying nothing about christians at all.