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Ferd
09-10-2013, 09:43 AM
Ok, this is such a bummer. I just cant get mine in check. 287 right now. good grief.


so ive schedualed a physical and will be talking to the Dr. I eat decent. dont really think I can do much more to lower it besides going hard core vegan and I just cant see that happening.

anyone else out there? if so what are you doing about it?

endtimer
09-10-2013, 09:48 AM
Slightly elevated, even with a fairly clean diet, exercise and weight under control. Hello Lipitor.

Ferd
09-10-2013, 09:52 AM
Slightly elevated, even with a fairly clean diet, exercise and weight under control. Hello Lipitor.

see thats me. I could lose 5 or 10 pounds but im certainly not heavy. 5'11 and 172 aint that bad.

exercize is getting better. not where it needs to be but i live with chronic back pain that wont ever go away so that isnt exactly easy.


guess im gonna be on the drugs from now on. sigh.

navygoat1998
09-10-2013, 09:53 AM
Ok, this is such a bummer. I just cant get mine in check. 287 right now. good grief.


so ive schedualed a physical and will be talking to the Dr. I eat decent. dont really think I can do much more to lower it besides going hard core vegan and I just cant see that happening.

anyone else out there? if so what are you doing about it?

Sometimes it hereditary, you only have to look as far as you parents to see where it comes from.

My wife is like that her dad had really high cholesterol and so does she. She changed her eating habits and has been exercising for years and this keeps her in check and hot. :happydance

Even when I fall off the workout wagon and eat like a glutton my cholesterol is always low. My mom has a really low cholesterol level. Glory!!!!!

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 10:03 AM
While killing you one cell at a time, Statin drugs lower Cholesterol.

Just sayin'... :heeheehee

Aquila
09-10-2013, 10:09 AM
Awesome. :)

Timmy
09-10-2013, 11:00 AM
My cousin told me about something the other day that lowers cholesterol. Something natural. Some kind of capsule. Said it works. Um..... Maybe I'll remember the name of it.

Originalist
09-10-2013, 11:04 AM
Very good.

Rose
09-10-2013, 11:55 AM
Healthy eating, moderate exercise, and Red Yeast Rice (dietary supplement sold in nutrition centers and grocery stores) keeps my cholesterol levels just below needing a statin drug.

Timmy
09-10-2013, 11:56 AM
Healthy eating, moderate exercise, and Red Yeast Rice (dietary supplement sold in nutrition centers and grocery stores) keeps my cholesterol levels just below needing a statin drug.

That's it! Red Yeast Rice. Thanks.

Ferd
09-10-2013, 11:57 AM
That's it! Red Yeast Rice. Thanks.

ive tried that in the past. guess i might ought to go back to it.

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 01:01 PM
Healthy eating, moderate exercise, and Red Yeast Rice (dietary supplement sold in nutrition centers and grocery stores) keeps my cholesterol levels just below needing a statin drug.

Interesting from Natural News on Red Yeast Rice:

Red Yeast Rice

Chinese red yeast rice helps balance normal levels of cholesterol. Red yeast rice contains substances called monacolins, which are naturally-occurring and converted by the body to make a chemical inhibiting the production of cholesterol. One monccolin in particular, lovastatin, has been extracted and used in popular statin drugs, thus causing the FDA to view natural red yeast rice as an unproved drug and banning it in the USA. Consuming moderate amounts of natural red yeast rice as part of an overall diet helps maintain normal cholesterol levels. Extracting the active ingredient from the rice and using it in a drug formulation amplifies its effects, and may produce both muscle and kidney injuries. Supplies of red yeast rice supplements sold in the USA at this time do not contain any of the active ingredient to reduce cholesterol levels.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035653_statin_drugs_natural_remedies_cholesterol.h tml#ixzz2eW9qHzvX
It's interesting, because I use a product by Garden of Life - Primal Defense Ultra.

Primal Defense treats intractable immune disorders, asthma, irritable bowel syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, lupus, colds, flu, and Crohn’s disease, and reduces users’ blood cholesterol levels;

http://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-Defense-Ultimate-Probiotics/dp/B000GWG8FS

It's interesting because the FTC filed a lawsuit against Garden of Life claiming they had no clinical studies to prove their claim.

Now, the lawsuit was a settlement and didn't constitute an admission by the Defendant of any law violation.

Regardless what the FTC says, because it's all about money for them, this product gives me results, makes me feel good and I will continue taking it.

endtimer
09-10-2013, 01:05 PM
While killing you one cell at a time, Statin drugs lower Cholesterol.

Just sayin'... :heeheehee

Yeah, unfortunately. Ive read up on some of the side effects, not good for sure. The red yeast rice might offer some help. Currently taking fish oil caps and Lipitor. I tried to go six months on diet and exercise alone and it was a no-go, good cholesterol was fine, bad cholesterol was, well, bad.

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 01:15 PM
Yeah, unfortunately. Ive read up on some of the side effects, not good for sure. The red yeast rice might offer some help. Currently taking fish oil caps and Lipitor. I tried to go six months on diet and exercise alone and it was a no-go, good cholesterol was fine, bad cholesterol was, well, bad.

My husband was taking something for his blood sugar and it gave him a headache, diarrhea, made him very tired, etc. Well, it is because the medication interferes with Vitamin B12 which is necessary for red blood cell formation.

He has not been working for most of this year, and had to take a physical when they called him to come back. Today, he finally is back to work - WOOT! Sugar was a little high. He had to jump through hoops to get a release to go back to work. Ugh!

I've been pointing out to him the sugar content in most of the food he eats AND the gallon of tea he drinks per day. He has been making corrections, so I know he is serious to take control of his diet to forgo taking any further medication.

I pointed out to him that my blood sugar is normal because I don't eat like he does. It's a no-brainer. Everything wrong with us begins in the gut. To be fair, I am more sensitive to eating badly, it affects me right away. He on the other hand is like Mikey - he can eat anything. :heeheehee

I really used to get mad that he could eat whatever he wanted and it didn't affect him. And he would get irritated at me because of normal things that would make me sick. But now I see that it does actually catch up with you in the end.

n david
09-10-2013, 01:37 PM
Recently had a physical and was told I'm "obese." Really!? I'm 5'9" and was 175 at the time. I may have been "heavy" or even "fat," but I wasn't "obese!" The Dr told me my idea weight was between 125 and 160. LoL I remember being 125 about 12 or 15 years ago...there's no way I want to be 125. I was skin and bones; couldn't find clothes to wear. I'd like to get around 145 or 150 though.

Dr also told me to either pay for a gym membership and exercise at least 30 minutes a day, 3-4 days a week, or I'll end up having to pay a lot more to take a bunch of meds for cholesterol and sugar diabetes.

It's been a year since I stopped drinking soda. I was a Mt. Dew fanatic. Had to quit though. I've also started eat a lot more grilled/baked chicken and fish, steel-cut oatmeal, avocado, spinach, flaxseed, egg whites and other things. I don't eat nearly as much fast food, hamburgers or steaks. And while I still need to do better with exercise - need to be consistent - I've dropped from 175 to 168 in the past month or so. Not a lot, but I have more energy and feel much better.

My guilty pleasure is Chili's chips and salsa. I know it's not good for me...but almost every Friday, I'll get a bag of chips and container of salsa to go for me and my wife. :thumbsup

Ferd
09-10-2013, 01:43 PM
Interesting from Natural News on Red Yeast Rice:

It's interesting, because I use a product by Garden of Life - Primal Defense Ultra.



It's interesting because the FTC filed a lawsuit against Garden of Life claiming they had no clinical studies to prove their claim.

Now, the lawsuit was a settlement and didn't constitute an admission by the Defendant of any law violation.

Regardless what the FTC says, because it's all about money for them, this product gives me results, makes me feel good and I will continue taking it.
i dont care about feeling good.... LOL.... but do you have some solid evidence that your choloestrol was lowered by taking it?

RandyWayne
09-10-2013, 01:53 PM
I'll be eating a burger (the buffalo and blue cheese burger!) from Carls Jr in a few hours.

Why a few hours you ask?

Because I just got my new crown on a front tooth in the last 45 minutes and I can't eat for 2 hours. :(

Ya know, on another rant, if the market was allowed to work this stupid crown would have cost $49.95 and the company making it would have STILL made a good profit. Instead it was nearly $1300 -just the crown itself, not the root canal, temporary, and other prep work leading up to it. Kind of reminds me of the $600 hammers and $1200 toilet seats that NASA was buying.

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:02 PM
i dont care about feeling good.... LOL.... but do you have some solid evidence that your choloestrol was lowered by taking it?

No, I don't have solid evidence. Unless I am bleeding or in immense pain, I never see a doctor. So, if I feel good, it's a good day. If I drop dead, it's still a good day. Didn't Paul say something like that? :heeheehee

And why don't you care about feeling good? Isn't that how addictions begin? You certainly feel good when you eat bacon. :heeheehee

BTW, I do have someone that can give me a very extensive blood test and can tell me all I need to know. When I get the time, I will have her test me and let you know.

Ferd
09-10-2013, 02:06 PM
No, I don't have solid evidence. Unless I am bleeding or in immense pain, I never see a doctor. So, if I feel good, it's a good day. If I drop dead, it's still a good day. Didn't Paul say something like that? :heeheehee

And why don't you care about feeling good? Isn't that how addictions begin? You certainly feel good when you eat bacon. :heeheehee

LOL! I do feel good when eating bacon! Praise the Lard!


(bacon may be my "little g"


I dont care about feeling good in the context of this thread. I just want stuff that will make my cholestrol to go down and I need to know that whatever i spend money on to do that will in fact work. :happydance

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:07 PM
Recently had a physical and was told I'm "obese." Really!? I'm 5'9" and was 175 at the time. I may have been "heavy" or even "fat," but I wasn't "obese!" The Dr told me my idea weight was between 125 and 160. LoL I remember being 125 about 12 or 15 years ago...there's no way I want to be 125. I was skin and bones; couldn't find clothes to wear. I'd like to get around 145 or 150 though.


Eeesh, that is really skinny for a man. JMO...:heeheehee

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:08 PM
LOL! I do feel good when eating bacon! Praise the Lard!


(bacon may be my "little g"


I dont care about feeling good in the context of this thread. I just want stuff that will make my cholestrol to go down and I need to know that whatever i spend money on to do that will in fact work. :happydance

When your Cholesterol is down, you feel good. Don't ya? :heeheehee Oh snap! I just realized that feeling good is a woman's deal. Never mind. :heeheehee

RandyWayne
09-10-2013, 02:10 PM
Eeesh, that is really skinny for a man. JMO...:heeheehee

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VTa96vVto6w/STXwtWDHiwI/AAAAAAAAAG0/9m286NUMp-8/s400/jj.jpg

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:11 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VTa96vVto6w/STXwtWDHiwI/AAAAAAAAAG0/9m286NUMp-8/s400/jj.jpg

Well, at least he had funny going for him. :heeheehee

navygoat1998
09-10-2013, 02:14 PM
Well, at least he had funny going for him. :heeheehee

Dynomite!!!!!:happydance

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:19 PM
Dynomite!!!!!:happydance

:toofunny

Evang.Benincasa
09-10-2013, 02:25 PM
No, I don't have solid evidence. Unless I am bleeding or in immense pain, I never see a doctor. So, if I feel good, it's a good day. If I drop dead, it's still a good day. Didn't Paul say something like that? :heeheehee

And why don't you care about feeling good? Isn't that how addictions begin? You certainly feel good when you eat bacon. :heeheehee

BTW, I do have someone that can give me a very extensive blood test and can tell me all I need to know. When I get the time, I will have her test me and let you know.

Eat More Bacon!

Evang.Benincasa
09-10-2013, 02:28 PM
I had a big plate of bacon this morning with scrambled eggs, toast, with pastured butter, and fig jelly. :)

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:29 PM
I had a big plate of bacon this morning with scrambled eggs, toast, with pastured butter, and fig jelly. :)

Do you eat bacon every day?

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 02:38 PM
I dont care about feeling good in the context of this thread. I just want stuff that will make my cholestrol to go down and I need to know that whatever i spend money on to do that will in fact work. :happydance
Forget Lipitor and other statin drugs - The top 7 natural remedies to reduce cholesterol levels


Red Yeast Rice
Green Tea - I really do not like Green tea. Have recently tried Oolong and I love it!
Nuts
Niacin
Artichoke Leaf Extract
Soluble Fiber


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035653_statin_drugs_natural_remedies_cholesterol.h tml#ixzz2eWZO9XyO

Evang.Benincasa
09-10-2013, 03:15 PM
Do you eat bacon every day?

No.

But the vast majority of this country is sick because their idea of exercise is a walk around the block.

Evang.Benincasa
09-10-2013, 03:30 PM
Bacon is great, whole unpasteurized milk, and red meat is excellent, yet people sit and never do strong exercise. People have back problems? Why? Their back muscles are never used, they are close to being in atrophy. Abdominal that are almost nonexistent. These are just the muscles that are in your core (I didn't mention all of them) but this is a nation that wants to look like it just walked out of the gym, but that is all it wants. Weak, fat, sickly, and because it knows where the food goes in, and will put any sort of garbage in its mouth in great quantities. It eats, and eats, goes on diets that are laughable, and when it comes to having a bowel movement some say they do it once in the morning, or once a week. An animal goes to the bathroom every time after it eats, not America. She has been raised on boxes of cereals filled with red dye 100, and soda that is carbonated antifreeze, ice cream that isn't fit to eat, and knocks out the immune system for 24hrs. Hospitals growing to the size of small towns, because Americans are sicker than a dog.

GOOD GRIEF!

Margies3
09-10-2013, 04:07 PM
My total cholesteral is 201. JUST over the mark. However, my ratio is so excellent, I've had 3 doctors tell me it is nothing to worry about. My good cholesterol is very high and my bad is very, very low :) They tell me that that is entirely hereditary and nothing I can do will ever change that ratio. And I will be the first to admit that I am absolutely over-weight. I'm not convinced that weight always has anything to do with your cholesterol levels.

Evang.Benincasa
09-10-2013, 05:02 PM
My total cholesteral is 201. JUST over the mark. However, my ratio is so excellent, I've had 3 doctors tell me it is nothing to worry about. My good cholesterol is very high and my bad is very, very low :) They tell me that that is entirely hereditary and nothing I can do will ever change that ratio. And I will be the first to admit that I am absolutely over-weight. I'm not convinced that weight always has anything to do with your cholesterol levels.


http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/2010/12/10/why-is-my-cholesterol-so-high-on-this-diet/

johnny44
09-10-2013, 05:48 PM
While killing you one cell at a time, Statin drugs lower Cholesterol.

Just sayin'... :heeheeheeCould you explain that just a little more clearer or en espanol.

johnny44
09-10-2013, 05:50 PM
That's it! Red Yeast Rice. Thanks.Never heard of it.Is that Spanish rice?

johnny44
09-10-2013, 05:53 PM
Yeah, unfortunately. Ive read up on some of the side effects, not good for sure. The red yeast rice might offer some help. Currently taking fish oil caps and Lipitor. I tried to go six months on diet and exercise alone and it was a no-go, good cholesterol was fine, bad cholesterol was, well, bad.Heard fish oil capsules not good for your prostate.

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 06:05 PM
Could you explain that just a little more clearer or en espanol.

Once the Statins are introduced, a cell cannot replicate. Your cells normally clone and replace themselves. They are unable to do that under the influence of a Statin.

So, you die slowly, one cell at a time. You age, feel tired, lose your memory, and get cataracts, etc.

I think we all know that medication, largely, doesn't heal you. It manages the disease. We need to find ways to heal ourselves.

johnny44
09-10-2013, 06:10 PM
Once the Statins are introduced, a cell cannot replicate.Thanks.If you stop taking the statins will the cells replicate ?

Pressing-On
09-10-2013, 06:13 PM
Thanks.If you stop taking the statins will the cells replicate ?

I would think if you got rid of the inhibitor, they would.

ILG
09-10-2013, 08:02 PM
While killing you one cell at a time, Statin drugs lower Cholesterol.

Just sayin'... :heeheehee

:thumbsup

ILG
09-10-2013, 08:02 PM
My cousin told me about something the other day that lowers cholesterol. Something natural. Some kind of capsule. Said it works. Um..... Maybe I'll remember the name of it.

Niacin. NOT flush-free niacin.

ILG
09-10-2013, 08:09 PM
Once the Statins are introduced, a cell cannot replicate. Your cells normally clone and replace themselves. They are unable to do that under the influence of a Statin.

So, you die slowly, one cell at a time. You age, feel tired, lose your memory, and get cataracts, etc.

I think we all know that medication, largely, doesn't heal you. It manages the disease. We need to find ways to heal ourselves.

I just bought the book The Truth About Statins and sneakily had it mailed to my parents address. :heeheehee

ILG
09-10-2013, 08:15 PM
Last time I had my cholesterol checked it was good. But I have that old appt. coming up before the end of the year. I hate that. My cholesterol probably goes up just thinking about it!!

Margies3
09-10-2013, 08:28 PM
Niacin. NOT flush-free niacin.

Walt's doctor has him on flush free niacin. He's been taking it for years.

ILG
09-10-2013, 08:36 PM
Walt's doctor has him on flush free niacin. He's been taking it for years.

Mmmmkay. Are you sure that his doc has him on the flush-free? Or have you guys just bought that? My understanding is that the flush free does not have the same effect.

Ferd
09-10-2013, 09:05 PM
Eat More Bacon!

Praise the LARD!

Ferd
09-10-2013, 09:09 PM
http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/2010/12/10/why-is-my-cholesterol-so-high-on-this-diet/

ok, im interested but can you break that down for me? graphs make my eyeballs cross... I have to do that stuff for work.

Hoovie
09-10-2013, 09:20 PM
last test one yr ago at 209

Evang.Benincasa
09-10-2013, 11:43 PM
Once the Statins are introduced, a cell cannot replicate. Your cells normally clone and replace themselves. They are unable to do that under the influence of a Statin.

So, you die slowly, one cell at a time. You age, feel tired, lose your memory, and get cataracts, etc.

I think we all know that medication, largely, doesn't heal you. It manages the disease. We need to find ways to heal ourselves.

My lands, people will do anything to be able to sit on the sofa become fatter and fatter, instead of getting out there and exercising. But alas, Americans believe a steady diet of toxic hell and burger puke, and walking from the bedroom to the living room is exercise. :heeheehee

MissBrattified
09-10-2013, 11:51 PM
Ok, this is such a bummer. I just cant get mine in check. 287 right now. good grief.


so ive schedualed a physical and will be talking to the Dr. I eat decent. dont really think I can do much more to lower it besides going hard core vegan and I just cant see that happening.

anyone else out there? if so what are you doing about it?

Goodness, Ferd! That's way too high!

I just had a checkup today, and I should have my bloodwork back on Thursday or Friday. It's been years since I had a full checkup, so I'm anxious to see the numbers. The last time was 2004 (or so), and my cholesterol was a bit high then--a little under 200. I've changed my eating habits and I exercise regularly now, so I'm hoping it has gone down.

We will see....

rgcraig
09-11-2013, 08:33 AM
Mine is 179 - - I think it's genetic for sure.

I have been eating "clean" for a few months now and feel so much better.

ILG
09-12-2013, 09:18 AM
Ok, this is such a bummer. I just cant get mine in check. 287 right now. good grief.


so ive schedualed a physical and will be talking to the Dr. I eat decent. dont really think I can do much more to lower it besides going hard core vegan and I just cant see that happening.

anyone else out there? if so what are you doing about it?

My husband has high cholesterol. First, you need to make sure your doctors is one that looks at ratios. You need to know your good to bad ratios because that makes a difference. My husband's doctor uses niacin for his own cholesterol issues (he had a heart attack). He recommends about 1000 mg a day for my husband although he hasn't been taking that much. Also, start taking some psyllium husk fiber every day. That's supposed to absorb some cholesterol out of your system.

Ferd
09-12-2013, 10:46 AM
My husband has high cholesterol. First, you need to make sure your doctors is one that looks at ratios. You need to know your good to bad ratios because that makes a difference. My husband's doctor uses niacin for his own cholesterol issues (he had a heart attack). He recommends about 1000 mg a day for my husband although he hasn't been taking that much. Also, start taking some psyllium husk fiber every day. That's supposed to absorb some cholesterol out of your system.

Thanks ILG. I actually had part one of my physical today. EKG was great. we talked about the cholesterol and will be reviewing that properly when I see him for part two. My dr. does this in two parts so they can draw bloodwork, then review that with you when you come in for part two.

gonna add Niacine and more fiber and a few other things plus making changes to add more activity. I started Physical Therapy this week to get my core stronge enough. with my back issues, that stops me from really being able to do what I need to do to be active enough.

Margies3
09-12-2013, 05:00 PM
Mmmmkay. Are you sure that his doc has him on the flush-free? Or have you guys just bought that? My understanding is that the flush free does not have the same effect.

Yep, I am positively sure he tells him to get the flush free. He's been telling us the same thing even before his aneurysm which was 7 years ago now.

My husband has high cholesterol. First, you need to make sure your doctors is one that looks at ratios. You need to know your good to bad ratios because that makes a difference. My husband's doctor uses niacin for his own cholesterol issues (he had a heart attack). He recommends about 1000 mg a day for my husband although he hasn't been taking that much. Also, start taking some psyllium husk fiber every day. That's supposed to absorb some cholesterol out of your system.

EXACTLY!!\

ILG
09-12-2013, 05:24 PM
http://cholesterol.about.com/od/nicotinicacid/a/noflushniacin.htm

See bolded below:

Updated December 19, 2012
Since there are niacin side effects associated with taking nicotinc acid products, you may want to use no flush niacin, or flush free niacin, to lower your cholesterol.
Niacin, or vitamin B-3, is a supplement known for its ability to lower cholesterol and prevent heart disease. There are three major forms of niacin available on the market: nicotinic acid, nicotinamide, and inositol hexaniacinate. All of these forms of niacin are available over-the-counter, either by itself or included in a multivitamin, in varying amounts.

Nicotinic acid is the form of niacin most researched for its ability to lower cholesterol. In fact, nicotinic acid has been shown to affect all aspects of your lipid profile: it can raise high-density lipoproteins ( “good” cholesterol, HDL ) and lower low-density lipoproteins ( “bad” cholesterol, LDL ) and triglycerides.

Although nicotinic acid affects all parts of your lipid profile, it is also noted for its nasty side effects, which include itching, flushing and hot flashes. These side effects can be intolerable and are the most common reason nicotinic acid use is discontinued.

Flush-free or no-flush niacin is a form of nicotinic acid also known as inositol hexaniacinate. Flush-free niacin gets its name from its ability to alleviate side effects like flushing that are seen with other forms of niacin. Unfortunately, there really isn’t a lot known about flush-free niacin, and researchers are finding that its active form may not even enter the blood. Therefore, it is unlikely that flush-free niacin lowers cholesterol.

I am surprised your doctor would suggest the flush free kind....

ILG
09-12-2013, 05:29 PM
http://chealth.canoe.ca/channel_section_details.asp?text_id=5495&channel_id=44&relation_id=48477

Products labelled as "no-flush" niacin generally contain no nicotinic acid. The main component in these products is inositol hexanicotinate (a different form of vitamin B3 mentioned earlier). While inositol hexanicotinate works as other B vitamins work to promote energy metabolism and nervous system health, it has not been shown to have any effect on cholesterol levels. This product does not cause flushing because it does not work the same way as niacin.

Margies3
09-12-2013, 08:37 PM
Interesting, ILG. I think I will print this out and have Walt take it to his next doctor appointment. I'll be interested to see what he has to say. Thanks!

ILG
09-12-2013, 08:57 PM
Interesting, ILG. I think I will print this out and have Walt take it to his next doctor appointment. I'll be interested to see what he has to say. Thanks!

Let us know!

CC1
09-12-2013, 08:59 PM
Ok, this is such a bummer. I just cant get mine in check. 287 right now. good grief.


so ive schedualed a physical and will be talking to the Dr. I eat decent. dont really think I can do much more to lower it besides going hard core vegan and I just cant see that happening.

anyone else out there? if so what are you doing about it?

You are one of the few people who can make me feel better about my cholestrol level! Mine has been 240 for about 20 years now.

RandyWayne
09-12-2013, 09:21 PM
Mine has been in the 260-270 range for all of my adult life. I could eat wheat germ and tofu every day or quarter pounders with cheese every day and it may vary 10-20 points between the two extremes.

MissBrattified
09-12-2013, 11:05 PM
Well...some success! My cholesterol wasn't as low as I hoped, but was actually lower than last time. (I was wrong about the numbers--it was 207 at my last test.) This time it was 204, but the LDL number is down 15 and the HDL is up by 6...so some improvement, but not enough.

More fiber and even less fat: here I come. ;)

Sidenote, apparently I also have a bit of a Vitamin D deficiency (20, normal is 30-80?). I have no idea why; I'm outside quite a bit. Other than that, I'm healthy! :D I guess I'll have to take a supplement for the Vitamin D....

Evang.Benincasa
09-12-2013, 11:29 PM
Has anyone ever started a thread on how many posters are over weight? ;)

ILG
09-13-2013, 06:57 AM
Has anyone ever started a thread on how many posters are over weight? ;)

I think you should start a thread on your flaws. ;)

Ferd
09-13-2013, 07:52 AM
Has anyone ever started a thread on how many posters are over weight? ;)

we can do it right here! lets all get in shape!

Pressing-On
09-13-2013, 08:08 AM
I think you should start a thread on your flaws. ;)

Too funny. :heeheehee

Ferd
09-13-2013, 08:18 AM
im gonna tell on the good Evangelist Benincasa.

The man lives his faith in real life. That is an absolute fact. He is NOT an armchair QB talking about stuff in theory. He BELIEVES AND PRACTICES what he preaches in his personal life.

If I were to be in a pickle and I was only allowed to have 5 people pray for me, Rev. DD Benincasa would be one of them.

We may have some differences of opinion, but he has my utter respect. His walk with God is ginuine, his care for those around him is without reserve and his concern for the lost in unlimited.


DDB, when I grow up I want to be just like you! (only my wife, three sisters and mother wont let me get a motercycle! something about my nickname already being Crash-n-Burn!)

I love you my brother!

Pressing-On
09-13-2013, 08:34 AM
im gonna tell on the good Evangelist Benincasa.

The man lives his faith in real life. That is an absolute fact. He is NOT an armchair QB talking about stuff in theory. He BELIEVES AND PRACTICES what he preaches in his personal life.

If I were to be in a pickle and I was only allowed to have 5 people pray for me, Rev. DD Benincasa would be one of them.

We may have some differences of opinion, but he has my utter respect. His walk with God is ginuine, his care for those around him is without reserve and his concern for the lost in unlimited.


DDB, when I grow up I want to be just like you! (only my wife, three sisters and mother wont let me get a motercycle! something about my nickname already being Crash-n-Burn!)

I love you my brother!

Good post - I agree!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

ILG
09-13-2013, 08:54 AM
im gonna tell on the good Evangelist Benincasa.

The man lives his faith in real life. That is an absolute fact. He is NOT an armchair QB talking about stuff in theory. He BELIEVES AND PRACTICES what he preaches in his personal life.

If I were to be in a pickle and I was only allowed to have 5 people pray for me, Rev. DD Benincasa would be one of them.

We may have some differences of opinion, but he has my utter respect. His walk with God is ginuine, his care for those around him is without reserve and his concern for the lost in unlimited.


DDB, when I grow up I want to be just like you! (only my wife, three sisters and mother wont let me get a motercycle! something about my nickname already being Crash-n-Burn!)

I love you my brother!

I don't doubt he lives it. But does he have any flaws? I think he should talk about those. ;)

Evang.Benincasa
09-13-2013, 11:21 AM
I don't doubt he lives it. But does he have any flaws? I think he should talk about those. ;)

Now who is throwing dirt? :heeheehee

ILG
09-13-2013, 11:23 AM
Now who is throwing dirt? :heeheehee

Just turning the tables. ;) You brought up other people's flaws and I did not bring up ANY of yours. I just thought a little introspection for you might be beneficial.

Evang.Benincasa
09-13-2013, 11:28 AM
Just turning the tables. ;) You brought up other people's flaws and I did not bring up ANY of yours. I just thought a little introspection for you might be beneficial.


I love you sister, and Emma also.

Don't worry, I'm human, but while being human I want people to have hope that they can do all things through Jesus Christ who strengthens them.

ILG
09-13-2013, 11:32 AM
I love you sister, and Emma also.

Don't worry, I'm human, but while being human I want people to have hope that they can do all things through Jesus Christ who strengthens them.

I understand that is your goal. I'll tell Emma what you said. ;)

Evang.Benincasa
09-13-2013, 05:14 PM
I understand that is your goal. I'll tell Emma what you said. ;)

She will always be my favorite. :highfive

Timmy
09-13-2013, 05:29 PM
She will always be my favorite. :highfive

Everybody loves Emma! :thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa
09-13-2013, 05:38 PM
Everybody loves Emma! :thumbsup

:nod

ILG
09-13-2013, 05:48 PM
Yeah, Emma's more popular than me. ;)

navygoat1998
09-13-2013, 05:50 PM
Yeah, Emma's more popular than me. ;)

Where is Emma????? I miss Emma, she understands me :happydance

ILG
09-13-2013, 06:05 PM
Where is Emma????? I miss Emma, she understands me :happydance

Maybe I can talk her into making an appearance sometime. She was kind of offended that I posted the thread "A Completely Homegrown Meal" because she felt she is much more qualified. She couldn't take any pictures though.

Subdued
09-13-2013, 07:24 PM
FYI: Total cholesterol & LDL #'s are useless. What you need to watch is your HDL & triglycerides. To keep your HDL up, eat as much saturated fat as possible (yes, bacon & lard; as well as avocados, coconut, fatty meats, eggs, high fat dairy, cheeses, etc.) and to keep your trigs low, cut out the sugar & carbs. You want your HDL high & trigs low. Also, get a VAP test to see if your cholesterol is pattern A or pattern B. Pattern A is good. It means your cholesterol is "large, fluffy & buoyant." Pattern B is bad and means your cholesterol is small & dense. Low cholesterol is associated with higher death rates & heart disease. Cholesterol is important and is healing to the body. It could be elevated due to having high HDL levels - that's good. If it's high due to high triglycerides, that bad. Inflammation (due to high triglycerides) is damaging. The test docs run today for cholesterol is only a calculation of a bunch of #'s. A VAP test will break it all down & give you clearer results. Don't be fooled by the FDA's recommendations. The "heart healthy" diet doctors recommended is endorsed by Pfizer and Lipitor. No thanks! The Heart Healthy check mark on many products in the grocery store is a joke... it's bought, not earned. So, look into getting your cholesterol measured rather than calculated to find out what TYPE of cholesterol you have... Pattern A or B.

Evang.Benincasa
09-13-2013, 07:40 PM
FYI: Total cholesterol & LDL #'s are useless. What you need to watch is your HDL & triglycerides. To keep your HDL up, eat as much saturated fat as possible (yes, bacon & lard; as well as avocados, coconut, fatty meats, eggs, high fat dairy, cheeses, etc.) and to keep your trigs low, cut out the sugar & carbs. You want your HDL high & trigs low. Also, get a VAP test to see if your cholesterol is pattern A or pattern B. Pattern A is good. It means your cholesterol is "large, fluffy & buoyant." Pattern B is bad and means your cholesterol is small & dense. Low cholesterol is associated with higher death rates & heart disease. Cholesterol is important and is healing to the body. It could be elevated due to having high HDL levels - that's good. If it's high due to high triglycerides, that bad. Inflammation (due to high triglycerides) is damaging. The test docs run today for cholesterol is only a calculation of a bunch of #'s. A VAP test will break it all down & give you clearer results. Don't be fooled by the FDA's recommendations. The "heart healthy" diet doctors recommended is endorsed by Pfizer and Lipitor. No thanks! The Heart Healthy check mark on many products in the grocery store is a joke... it's bought, not earned. So, look into getting your cholesterol measured rather than calculated to find out what TYPE of cholesterol you have... Pattern A or B.

:highfive

Sasha
09-14-2013, 02:59 PM
I love ya, Subby!

My cholesterol, last it was checked, was 137. Everything is low on me.

Bacon + piece of lettuce = salad!

Evang.Benincasa
09-14-2013, 03:01 PM
I love ya, Subby!

My cholesterol, last it was checked, was 137. Everything is low on me.

Bacon + piece of lettuce = salad!

Awesome! :highfive

Abiding Now
09-14-2013, 08:22 PM
Evidently, after reading this thread, I will prolly die with HIGH cholesterol, but I won't be hungry.

:D

Abiding Now
09-16-2013, 08:36 PM
I checked my last blood work and my cholesterol was 173.

Is that good?

Subdued
09-17-2013, 04:23 AM
I checked my last blood work and my cholesterol was 173.

Is that good?

What are your HDL & triglyceride #'s? The total # is just a calculation of other numbers/factors. It's a useless #. So is LDL. The question is; what is your LDL made up of? A VAP test is needed to determine that. However, knowing your HDL to triglyceride ratio will give you a good indication of whether you are Pattern A (good) or Pattern B (bad) or a combination of the two, Pattern A/B (not so good). My husband's total cholesterol is around 350. He had a VAP test because his doc was freaking out, INSISTING he go on statins. The VAP test proved to his doctor that his cholesterol is Pattern A - large, fluffy & buoyant (harmless). Cholesterol is needed, healing and helpful. It's not unless it's Pattern B - small/dense - that it causes damage. What your triglycerides and find out what your HDL is.

By the way, if you want your triglycerides to drop like a rock, cut out sugar and carbohydrates (aka sugar). If you want to raise your HDL significantly, eat as much saturated (natural, from God Himself) fat as possible.

Here's a good article about it and I can provide countless others along with peer reviewed studies. Plus I've seen it play out in real life situations:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/four-patients-who-changed-my-life/

Miss Scarlett
09-19-2013, 05:20 PM
117...no meds

bishoph
09-19-2013, 06:47 PM
Having dealt with cardiac issues for a number of years, I have become well studied on this whole issue of cholesterol. The real truth is that the war on cholesterol is for the most part a sham. As Subdued has said their are real numbers to consider, however the medical community is finally admitting that an overwhelming majority of heart attacks has nothing to do with cholesterol......most are caused by inflammation. This information has started coming out in the major medical journals in the last year or so even though they have known about it for 20+ years.

Statins (while they may help some people) actually are creating a new set of health issues or contributing to others. I have refused for years to take statins and every cardiologist has finally told me that I will be fine without them.

Timmy
09-20-2013, 08:18 AM
Ok, this is such a bummer. I just cant get mine in check. 287 right now. good grief.


so ive schedualed a physical and will be talking to the Dr. I eat decent. dont really think I can do much more to lower it besides going hard core vegan and I just cant see that happening.

anyone else out there? if so what are you doing about it?

Don't know what my levels are. Not sure they've ever been tested. I just go for my annual checkup every 10 years or so (:lol), and I can't recall the doc ever ordering a test. :dunno

(Last time, he actually mentioned "your annual", and I literally LOLed! :lol)

RandyWayne
09-20-2013, 08:33 AM
Don't know what my levels are. Not sure they've ever been tested. I just go for my annual checkup every 10 years or so (:lol), and I can't recall the doc ever ordering a test. :dunno

(Last time, he actually mentioned "your annual", and I literally LOLed! :lol)

I don't even know what my blood type is.

Ferd
09-20-2013, 08:35 AM
I don't even know what my blood type is.

Clearly you are not a God fearing American who served his country!

LOL! I know my blood type because I served in the military. Thats about the first thing you learn.

its kind of important when you get your leg blown off.

Ferd
09-26-2013, 07:50 AM
Well its official. I have the LDL and Triglicerides of 10 50 year old overweight men.

and my LDL is not the nice fluffy kind. its the mean little ugly sticky stuff that kills people.

my dr told me i needed to eat kale 3 times a day and nothing else for a month! LOL.

The crazy thing is I am not overweight at all.

ILG
09-26-2013, 08:09 AM
Well its official. I have the LDL and Triglicerides of 10 50 year old overweight men.

and my LDL is not the nice fluffy kind. its the mean little ugly sticky stuff that kills people.

my dr told me i needed to eat kale 3 times a day and nothing else for a month! LOL.

The crazy thing is I am not overweight at all.

:( So are you going to break out the niacin/ psyllium husk?

My husband's cholesterol is still high he just got the results yesterday. However, there has been an improvement with what we are doing.

Azzan
09-26-2013, 08:18 AM
It's been a few years and I need to schedule another physical but my total was 180. I eat healthy, exercise and keep my weight in check (5'7", 130#).

Ferd
09-26-2013, 08:38 AM
:( So are you going to break out the niacin/ psyllium husk?

My husband's cholesterol is still high he just got the results yesterday. However, there has been an improvement with what we are doing.

doing physical therapy right now so I can get my back in shape to start really doing solid exercize.

going to do the niacin/psyllium thing.

adding Vitimine D to the program as well. My Dr says that is one of the biggest thing killing Americans.

Gotta change the diet dramatically. no more twice a week trips to the local chinese place for number 14 spicy fried chicken... ugh this is the hard part.

more veggies. more raw, less cow. more turkey and fish.


on the food front, I am now on a quest to find 20 meals that I really really like that are healthy.

my Dr said most Americans eat about 20 things on a regular basis. if you can find 20 meals, you can mix those up and keep yourself eating well.

if you dont you will have a hard time eating well.

Oh and also getting this:http://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387

commonsense
09-26-2013, 01:30 PM
Cholesterol is vital for brain function and keeping arteries from cracking (stroke). It's the bad cholesterol that is the problem. The solution is lots of antioxidants. Google drglidden or go to fireyourmdnow.com .

Subdued
09-26-2013, 06:44 PM
To lower triglycerides, cut out sugar and carbs. To raise HDL, eat as much saturated fat as possible. Simple! Don't cut out bacon and red meat, and eat the chicken with the skin ON. Chicken and fish are GREAT, don't get me wrong; but eating only those things will not improve your HDL. Eat the fat... your cholesterol will improve greatly. Stop eating sugar and carbs (100% of carbohydrates converts to glucose... 100%). A ketogenic/LCHF diet is great for heart health (and cholesterol).

commonsense
09-28-2013, 11:22 AM
Good advice. My only comment is high fiber depletes the body of minerals. Extra minerals are essential, since soils are depleted. Check out drglidden.com

commonsense
09-28-2013, 11:25 AM
Good advice. My only comment is high fiber depletes the body of minerals. Extra minerals are essential, since soils are depleted. Check out drglidden.com

Hijacked by Mr Commonsense :smack