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seekerman
09-28-2013, 01:12 PM
"A gunman walked into a Louisiana nighttime revival service Friday night and opened fire on a pastor while he was preaching in front of about 60 people"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/28/pastor-shot-killed-during-louisiana-church-service/

KeptByTheWord
09-28-2013, 07:07 PM
Such an awful thing! Does anyone have any more details about why this could have taken place?

corvet786c
09-28-2013, 10:45 PM
Just for the record I knew this pastor he is an Independant apostolic Jesus name pastor at least that was the case 18 yrs ago. Dont know why this happen though.

We need to lift up his family in prayer.

canam
09-29-2013, 02:07 PM
No one knows ,he was a former attendee who left 4 years ago with no known animosity,obviously they missed it big time,sans some mental issue or drug use recently

Abiding Now
09-30-2013, 07:27 PM
So sad.

Here's the church website and latest update.

http://www.tabernacleofpraiseworship.com/Home/

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/30/us/louisiana-pastor-killed/

bishoph
09-30-2013, 09:47 PM
I am sure there will be many stories told before the whole truth is known.....here is a little more info that if true sheds some light into the "why" or motive.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=20424642

RandyWayne
09-30-2013, 09:53 PM
I am sure there will be many stories told before the whole truth is known.....here is a little more info that if true sheds some light into the "why" or motive.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=20424642

That certainly sheds a little more light on the "whys". And yes, more details will be forthcoming.

I may have done the same thing in his place if the details in the story are accurate. Hopefully not tbough, but I can understand his rather extreme anger.

n david
09-30-2013, 10:13 PM
That certainly sheds a little more light on the "whys". And yes, more details will be forthcoming.

There but for the Grace of God. . . I may have done the same thing in his place if the details in the story are accurate.
I don't know that I would've shot him, but I certainly would have laid my hands on him and given him a holy beatdown.

RandyWayne
09-30-2013, 10:23 PM
I don't know that I would've shot him, but I certainly would have laid my hands on him and given him a holy beatdown.

No, in all seriousness I don't think I would have shot him. But I would have most likely confronted him and acted out the part of the jealous man in the song Bad Bad Leroy Brown.

seekerman
09-30-2013, 10:45 PM
That's certainly no reason to kill someone. Let someone like that go and move on with your life.

He's no only lost his wife, but he's going to spend the rest of his life in a small little cell.

Nitehawk013
10-01-2013, 04:20 AM
That's certainly no reason to kill someone. Let someone like that go and move on with your life.

He's no only lost his wife, but he's going to spend the rest of his life in a small little cell.

Um, if someone raped my wife I think that is MORE than enough reason to kill him. The fact that so many in this country don't think rape shuold be punished by death further reveals how immoral we have become, how out of cal our moral compasses are.

To be clear, that is how I feel about real rape. In this case, it remains to be seen what was goign on behind closed doors.

Esaias
10-01-2013, 06:49 AM
Proverbs 6:34 For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.

35 He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.

bishoph
10-01-2013, 07:53 AM
That's certainly no reason to kill someone. Let someone like that go and move on with your life.

He's no only lost his wife, but he's going to spend the rest of his life in a small little cell.

Well.....actually.....he may get off because it is a crime of passion....we'll see. According to some reports he had just found out his daughter was pregnant by the same man who had "raped" his wife.

Esaias
10-01-2013, 08:19 AM
Well.....actually.....he may get off because it is a crime of passion....we'll see. According to some reports he had just found out his daughter was pregnant by the same man who had "raped" his wife.



Sounds like the story gets worse and worse.

KeptByTheWord
10-01-2013, 10:19 AM
How awful if any of these allegations are true.

TGBTG
10-01-2013, 11:48 AM
Um, if someone raped my wife I think that is MORE than enough reason to kill him. The fact that so many in this country don't think rape shuold be punished by death further reveals how immoral we have become, how out of cal our moral compasses are.

To be clear, that is how I feel about real rape. In this case, it remains to be seen what was goign on behind closed doors.

Deut 22
28 If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out,
29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days

So what do you think about the moral compass of biblical Israel?

Nitehawk013
10-02-2013, 04:38 AM
I think most people who read the OT understand that many cultural aspects of it do not apply to us today. Ancient Israel had a habit of treating women like possessions rather than people. This isn't ancient Israel and I stand by my opinion that rapists ought to be killed as soon as possible once proven guilty.

Esaias
10-02-2013, 07:48 AM
Deut 22
28 If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out,
29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days

So what do you think about the moral compass of biblical Israel?

First, this is a law given by God, and if anything reveals the moral compass of God himself.

Second, this is about fornication, not forcible rape. See http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/ot_and_rape.htm

Third, the case under consideration in this thread is of a man who raped a married woman. Deut 22:25-27 states that forcible rape is the same as when a man commits murder. The death penalty is demanded of the rapist.

The link I gave above gives a detailed analysis of the verse you quoted, showing that it is not speaking of forcible, violent rape of an unwilling victim.

The Bible requires the death penalty for forcible rape.

It also requires that two people who decide to 'get it on' are required to marry.

It also requires the death penalty for adultery, and for kidnapping as well.

That is the 'moral compass' of God.

Ferd
10-02-2013, 07:54 AM
You know what I really hate?

I really hate it when modern humans look at ancient civilizations and apply our modern moral code to ancient barbarian people.


I mean I really hate that. Really.

carry on you myopic tunnel visioned people.

Esaias
10-02-2013, 08:07 AM
You know what I really hate?

I really hate it when modern humans look at ancient civilizations and apply our modern moral code to ancient barbarian people.


I mean I really hate that. Really.

carry on you myopic tunnel visioned people.

Which is why we should apply God's eternal moral code to all situations, ancient and modern.

There is nothing new under the sun.