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endtimer
10-02-2013, 07:44 PM
Ok folks, I'm curious about the significance of numbers, if any, in the bible. Not bible code. I do not have a strong opinion on this one way or the other. I'm open to solid reading suggestions and your opinion. So what says you, is there some thing to numbers or is it a bunch of garbage? Thanks.

Praxeas
10-02-2013, 10:01 PM
Ok folks, I'm curious about the significance of numbers, if any, in the bible. Not bible code. I do not have a strong opinion on this one way or the other. I'm open to solid reading suggestions and your opinion. So what says you, is there some thing to numbers or is it a bunch of garbage? Thanks.
Im not sure what you mean. Are you talking about numerology?

endtimer
10-02-2013, 11:04 PM
Im not sure what you mean. Are you talking about numerology?

yes.

renee819
10-03-2013, 03:53 AM
I'm not sure it is numerology. But the number 40 and 7 sure comes up a lot. And from what I have read, it seems like a lot of people do a lot of guessing on the numbers.

Esaias
10-03-2013, 06:51 AM
Bible numerics, not "numerology".

Disciple4life
10-03-2013, 08:41 AM
I read a book before where the author believed that the number for the chapter and verse of the scripture (John 1:1) had spiritual significance. I can not remember the name of the book, but the chapter and verse numbers were added much later. Interesting read but much of it seems like coincidence.
One thing he did explain well is what the numbers mean. Seven had a certain significance, six does also ect. ect. ect.

I use to be into bible codes but then I realized that hours of trying to crack a code was not helping me to grow in the Lord. The first and second commandment are real simple, there is no need to read more into it than is already there.

RandyWayne
10-03-2013, 08:45 AM
I am not into codes and number patterns hidden in scripture, but if someone was it goes to reason that you would need to look at ORIGINAL 1st generation scripture, as penned by the original author. How many of these even exist other than snippets of text here and there?

Disciple4life
10-03-2013, 08:47 AM
If you want to find out about the significance of numbers check out this link. I didn't see any hidden code or anything like that. Just what numbers mean and where you can find them in the bible where it is significant.

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/the%20significance%20of%20numbers%20in%20scripture .htm
:highfive

RandyWayne
10-03-2013, 08:53 AM
If you want to find out about the significance of numbers check out this link. I didn't see any hidden code or anything like that. Just what numbers mean and where you can find them in the bible where it is significant.

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/the%20significance%20of%20numbers%20in%20scripture .htm
:highfive

With literally billions and trillions of potential "patterns" to be found, it is highly likely that some may appear significant if you look hard enough.

Disciple4life
10-03-2013, 08:58 AM
With literally billions and trillions of potential "patterns" to be found, it is highly likely that some may appear significant if you look hard enough.

RandyWayne I totally agree with you.

endtimer
10-03-2013, 10:20 AM
If you want to find out about the significance of numbers check out this link. I didn't see any hidden code or anything like that. Just what numbers mean and where you can find them in the bible where it is significant.

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/the%20significance%20of%20numbers%20in%20scripture .htm
:highfive

Thank you for the link, Ill check it out. Im not really looking to get lost in patterns. I agree with you and RW are on the possibilities of patterns. I specifically want to know what numbers can mean. Particularly 5,7 and 40. What little, and I mean little, I know about "biblical numerics" (thank you Esaias) bares some commonalties with major events that have occurred in my life over the last 7 years. Just want to see if there is anything to it. Have events in your life and the time in which they have happened matched your understanding of biblical numerics? All testimonies and opinions welcome.

Esaias
10-03-2013, 11:09 AM
Bullinger's classic work - http://www.levendwater.org/books/numbers/number_in_scripture_bullinger.pdf

Grant's Numerical Bible - http://archive.org/details/numericalbiblebe04gran

Ivan Panin is probably the most famous author on the subject, but I think some of his work and conclusions are questionable. Here one of his works - http://www.telusplanet.net/public/tsgibson/panin.pdf

BeenThinkin
10-03-2013, 11:10 AM
I'm not sure it is numerology. But the number 40 and 7 sure comes up a lot. And from what I have read, it seems like a lot of people do a lot of guessing on the numbers.


How about the number 3? It too is used extensively.


BT

RandyWayne
10-03-2013, 11:13 AM
Just about the only number I can think of that I never seen prominently mentioned is 71.

endtimer
10-03-2013, 11:38 AM
How about the number 3? It too is used extensively.


BT

You got me thinking (ha, ha), I had a major life changing event happen at year three at the beginning of this 7 year span Im referring to. Of coarse we could all think of events and try to match them up with numbers in the bible, but I had major, major events that have drastically effected my life and ministry. Now finally, after 7 years Im seeing how it all is working out for the good, beyond I ever thought possible. I think biblical numerics might prove out in this, maybe, we'll see.

Aquila
10-03-2013, 11:47 AM
Ok folks, I'm curious about the significance of numbers, if any, in the bible. Not bible code. I do not have a strong opinion on this one way or the other. I'm open to solid reading suggestions and your opinion. So what says you, is there some thing to numbers or is it a bunch of garbage? Thanks.

I'm not familiar with biblical numerology... but I do believe that most numbers in the Bible have a symbolic meaning. For example, I'm not sure if every number of dead enemy solders as actually into the tens to the hundreds of thousands as found in some texts. Perhaps these are symbolic exaggerations of the actual devastation brought to them by the Israelites.

Esaias
10-03-2013, 12:08 PM
I'm not familiar with biblical numerology... but I do believe that most numbers in the Bible have a symbolic meaning. For example, I'm not sure if every number of dead enemy solders as actually into the tens to the hundreds of thousands as found in some texts. Perhaps these are symbolic exaggerations of the actual devastation brought to them by the Israelites.

I believe those numbers are accurate, but rounded.

Numbers do have meaning and significance. The number 7 is obvious (seven days, seven spirits of God, seven churches, seven days of unleavened bread, seven days of tabernaclesetc etc). Other numbers seem to have significance as well, 40 days on the mountain, 40 years in the wilderness, etc.

I do believe some people let their imaginations get carried away with this stuff, however.

RandyWayne
10-03-2013, 12:33 PM
Whenever a thousand anything is mentioned, it always seem to simply represent "a whole lot!".

endtimer
10-03-2013, 03:35 PM
I believe those numbers are accurate, but rounded. Numbers do have meaning and significance. The number 7 is obvious (seven days, seven spirits of God, seven churches, seven days of unleavened bread, seven days of tabernaclesetc etc). Other numbers seem to have significance as well, 40 days on the mountain, 40 years in the wilderness, etc. I do believe some people let their imaginations get carried away with this stuff, however.
I agree, people do get carried away with these things. I think there may be some thing to this, hardly anything to govern our lives by though.

MarieA27
10-03-2013, 06:17 PM
From my understanding I remember hearing (reading) about what some of the numbers meant. Like 2 or 3 meaning confirmation ( when things are done in 2 or 3's that saying or event is being confirmed ie 2 or 3 witnesses, 3 days 3 nights etc., 7 meaning complete, ( example already mentioned above, ) 12 meaning foundation, (12 tribes of Israel, 12 apostles) and 40 meaning judgment ( raining for 40 days, a lot of the major prophets and apostles preached for about 40 years, children of Israel being tested and tried in the wilderness for 40 years etc....

FlamingZword
10-03-2013, 09:44 PM
7 days of creation
7 feast days
7 churches in revelation
7 trumpets
7 spirits of God

and so on...