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crakjak
10-14-2013, 10:48 PM
What words did John speak when he baptized Jesus, just had that thought, and didn't think, "I now baptize you unto repentance" would apply.

Don't think He was baptized into His own name? What do you think?

houston
10-14-2013, 10:56 PM
No name.

crakjak
10-15-2013, 09:39 AM
No name.

Really?

Alright, scholars, let's have it!! LOL

Steve Epley
10-15-2013, 09:52 AM
He was the name and when John put him into the water he put the name in the water. So that is where you get the name in the water where John put it.

Amanah
10-15-2013, 10:09 AM
Mark 1

1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
2 As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.
6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;
7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
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I don't think John said anything over Jesus.
I think Jesus was baptized to signal the beginning of his ministry, to foreshadow his death, burial, & resurrection, and to be an example to his believers. Also since John was heralding the coming of the Messiah, he was baptized as a fulfillment of John’s ministry. The heavens opened with pronouncement and approval nothing else needed to be said.

Originalist
10-15-2013, 10:14 AM
It's not important.

houston
10-15-2013, 12:51 PM
He was the name and when John put him into the water he put the name in the water. So that is where you get the name in the water where John put it.extrapolate much?

seekerman
10-15-2013, 03:26 PM
What words did John speak when he baptized Jesus, just had that thought, and didn't think, "I now baptize you unto repentance" would apply.

Don't think He was baptized into His own name? What do you think?

I don't think anyone knows what was said. If it's like a lot of other stuff in the bible, there were variations on what someone said, if they even said anything.

Praxeas
10-15-2013, 04:04 PM
If John said anything, it was probably "in the name of Yahweh"

Esaias
10-15-2013, 04:09 PM
They did not use 'formulas' like we know and love today.

The biblical evidence indicates that when people went to be baptised by John, they confessed their sins. Thus, the ones being baptised 'spoke the words' that constituted the 'formula'.

However, from Biblical and ancient Judean practice, we can surmise (surmise only!) that when John baptised someone he spake a blessing of some kind, recognising their obedience and contritition towards God.

Interestingly enough, when Jesus was baptised we know for sure that Someone spoke, for the Voice came from heaven...

houston
10-15-2013, 04:30 PM
The Father of Jesus spoke...

crakjak
10-15-2013, 09:56 PM
Very nice comments, thank you all.
I agree that we don't know, nor do we know the exact words that any baptizer spoke over the ones baptized in the scriptures.
What we do know is that the ones baptized had come to believe that Jesus was their Savior, and that fact constituted "baptism in the name of the Lord, Jesus, and THAT is more important than what anyone spoke over them.

crakjak
10-15-2013, 09:58 PM
They did not use 'formulas' like we know and love today.

The biblical evidence indicates that when people went to be baptised by John, they confessed their sins. Thus, the ones being baptised 'spoke the words' that constituted the 'formula'.

However, from Biblical and ancient Judean practice, we can surmise (surmise only!) that when John baptised someone he spake a blessing of some kind, recognising their obedience and contritition towards God.

Interestingly enough, when Jesus was baptised we know for sure that Someone spoke, for the Voice came from heaven...

Yes, this was the sign that John was to know that Jesus truly was the Savior. "...one in which the Spirit like a dove rests upon and remains..."

seekerman
10-16-2013, 07:36 AM
The biblical evidence indicates that when people went to be baptised by John, they confessed their sins. Thus, the ones being baptised 'spoke the words' that constituted the 'formula'.

I wonder if they were publicly confessing their sins? Publicly confessing one's sins before they're baptized would be an interesting thing to watch/hear.

Not that it matters, public or privately to God, but when I read your comment it made me wonder. I've read that passage many many times and I really never thought about what actually was going on during the confession stage of the process.

crakjak
10-16-2013, 07:43 AM
If John said anything, it was probably "in the name of Yahweh"

More likely, John was speechless in the presence of Yahweh!! LOL!

Esaias
10-16-2013, 01:37 PM
I wonder if they were publicly confessing their sins? Publicly confessing one's sins before they're baptized would be an interesting thing to watch/hear.

Not that it matters, public or privately to God, but when I read your comment it made me wonder. I've read that passage many many times and I really never thought about what actually was going on during the confession stage of the process.

Considering the biblical and even the traditional Jewish way of 'confessing' things, I would say it is almost certain their confessions were vocal, and not just 'mental'.

Also, we are to 'confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus', and the context seems to indicate baptism. So a public confession of one's sinfulness and need of forgiveness would be highly appropriate to John's baptism. Of course, one might argue that simply the act of coming to John to submit to his baptism was just such a confession (which is probably why John exclaimed to Jesus 'I need to be baptised by you, not you by me!').