View Full Version : Do you carry your gun in church? Should you?
jfrog
12-30-2013, 07:20 PM
Should we have/allow guns to be carried in our churches for self defense?
Michael The Disciple
12-30-2013, 07:35 PM
Altho I would not encourage it Peter carried a sword up until his final night with Christ before the crucifixion.
jfrog
12-30-2013, 07:39 PM
Altho I would not encourage it Peter carried a sword up until his final night with Christ before the crucifixion.
I want to know if Jesus did ;)
Abiding Now
12-30-2013, 07:53 PM
I know a preacher that a CWC and carries his pistol, even when in the pulpit.
jfrog
12-30-2013, 08:19 PM
I know a preacher that a CWC and carries his pistol, even when in the pulpit.
Should he?
Pragmatist
12-30-2013, 08:30 PM
I know there are people in the church we attend that carry. I am glad they do, because churches are sometimes a target for the crazies and I want to be defended.
Abiding Now
12-30-2013, 08:35 PM
Should he?
Why not?
jfrog
12-30-2013, 10:41 PM
I know there are people in the church we attend that carry. I am glad they do, because churches are sometimes a target for the crazies and I want to be defended.
God won't defend you?
Praxeas
12-30-2013, 10:45 PM
Should he?
What do you mean "should he"?
commonsense
12-30-2013, 10:58 PM
I've heard of UPC churches in some areas that have hired armed guards for their services. Safety of those in your assembly must be considered.
PastorTLArt
12-31-2013, 12:02 AM
I see nothing wrong with it, Heck, if I Pastored some of the inner city churches Ive been in I would have a gun rack fully stocked built under the pulpit!!!!
obriencp
12-31-2013, 07:07 AM
I think this thread will gain a lot of opinions so here's my $.02...
Some people say that if you carry a concealed weapon you're placing your faith in a gun rather than Jesus. But to those I ask if they take medicine, work to pay their bills, or shop at stores for their daily needs. God can/will provide and protect us, but he has also given us a brain and the resources so that we can help ourselves.
I don't like gun free zones particularly because it's an advertisement to the crazies that they can inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance. I think the background checks need to be better and I also think that our nation needs to invest more money in education and mental health research and treatment. Guns are not the issue, people are the issue.
Most carrying people realize that it's an absolute last resort and they pray they'll never have to use it. But, it's better to have it and never need it than to need it and not have it.
houston
12-31-2013, 05:03 PM
Well, that's nice. Kill or be killed.
I think if someone is going to spray a church with bullets it's probably some sort of persecution. Well, supposed to be, anyway...
Peter carried a sword, but Jesus chastised him when he used it......so what should a person make of that?
houston
12-31-2013, 07:20 PM
Peter carried a sword, but Jesus chastised him when he used it......so what should a person make of that?They're going to tell you that it is because Jesus was going willingly. And thats true because it was time to be delivered to the Sanhedrin.
houston
12-31-2013, 07:22 PM
Everyone wants to go to the OT to support the use of guns in self defense.
There is no teaching of self defense in the New Testament. We were told to turn the other cheek, but they allegorize that.
Michael The Disciple
12-31-2013, 08:10 PM
Hebrews 10:32-37
32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions; 33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used. 34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. 35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. 36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. 37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. 38
MawMaw
12-31-2013, 08:37 PM
No, I don't personally, but, I sure hope that there are
others who do!
HappyforJesus
01-01-2014, 12:07 AM
The only problem I see with it is, the woman who carry their guns in their purses. When ever everyone is at the alter praying or praise worshiping, there is little kids playing in the pews left unattended. It can add up to something bad happening really quick....
Revelationist
01-01-2014, 11:30 AM
I guess the church could put up no guns allowed, that's worked well for the school systems.
Sasha
01-01-2014, 12:35 PM
Just think of the numbers we can save when we use guns instead of laying on hands. LOL
Revelationist
01-01-2014, 12:38 PM
Just think of the numbers we can save when we use guns instead of laying on hands. LOL
Might work well for the offerings... better than the scare tactics currently used.
Timmy
01-01-2014, 01:36 PM
Should we have/allow guns to be carried in our churches for self defense?
Yes, of course. Everyone should be armed, just in case. Well, everyone that isn't a psychopath, that is. Of course.
missourimary
01-01-2014, 05:46 PM
I went to a church where I was told ushers carried. I was very concerned about some of the people who were probably carrying~some had bragged about their 'BC' experiences, one had a prior murder charge (not conviction), and supposedly another who was 'trained' to carry dropped his bullets running the aisles. I wondered who was supposed to protect us from them.
But biblically I'd refer to Luke 22:36-38 as well as the verses mentioned earlier. He told them to buy swords, told them two were enough, and then rebuked Peter for using one all in the same night. So was there something more than use involved with the rebuke or was the mention of swords figurative or is there some other way of viewing these verses together?
Timmy
01-02-2014, 06:47 PM
I went to a church where I was told ushers carried. I was very concerned about some of the people who were probably carrying~some had bragged about their 'BC' experiences, one had a prior murder charge (not conviction), and supposedly another who was 'trained' to carry dropped his bullets running the aisles. I wondered who was supposed to protect us from them.
But biblically I'd refer to Luke 22:36-38 as well as the verses mentioned earlier. He told them to buy swords, told them two were enough, and then rebuked Peter for using one all in the same night. So was there something more than use involved with the rebuke or was the mention of swords figurative or is there some other way of viewing these verses together?
Hey, great to see you, m.m.!
Sasha
01-02-2014, 09:26 PM
*click* I love Jesus, how about you?
missourimary
01-02-2014, 10:26 PM
Hey, great to see you, m.m.!
*waves*
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