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KeptByTheWord
01-23-2014, 10:23 PM
OUTRAGEOUS!! Read on...
A man who provided sperm to a lesbian couple in response to an online ad is the father of a child born to one of the women and must pay child support, a Kansas judge ruled Wednesday.
Topeka resident William Marotta had argued that he had waived his parental rights and didn’t intend to be a father. Shawnee County District Court Judge Mary Mattivi rejected that claim, saying the parties didn’t involve a licensed physician in the artificial insemination process and thus Marotta didn’t qualify as a sperm donor, The Topeka Capital-Journal reported.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/23/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support/?intcmp=latestnews
kevin
01-23-2014, 10:27 PM
Disgusting
shazeep
01-24-2014, 09:02 AM
Hmm, i went into the article with those feelings; but now i'm not so sure...
i think this is what it comes down to; either YOU pay the child's support, or he does; as unfair as that may seem. Not sure what having an MD involved would change, really; that just seems like a way to perpetuate the state, dunno.
KeptByTheWord
01-24-2014, 09:12 AM
My first thought was to say to the man, go, get your baby, and raise it yourself, but then, as I thought that analogy through... I thought what kind of man would donate his sperm to lesbians anyway?
That poor child! The child is the one I feel the most pain for, to be caught up in this sick drama.
shazeep
01-24-2014, 09:34 AM
ya, i mean one has to see some poetic justice in there, perhaps.
n david
01-24-2014, 10:46 AM
I wondered when this would happen. What a great scam! 2 women talk a guy into helping them have a baby, then take him to court for child support.
I can't believe the Judge sided with these women though. Ridiculous.
shazeep
01-24-2014, 11:12 AM
well, you say 'sided with the women,' when i gathered that it was the state coming after the guy, for the girls' applying for assistance; which led to the state seeking the father?
n david
01-24-2014, 11:26 AM
well, you say 'sided with the women,' when i gathered that it was the state coming after the guy, for the girls' applying for assistance; which led to the state seeking the father?
You're right.
Reading the article again, I'm intrigued at the Judge's comment that a physician wasn't used in the artificial insemination. So how DID this transfer happen? Turkey baster? I don't mean to be crude, but if a physician wasn't used for the AI, how did these people do it?
shazeep
01-24-2014, 01:07 PM
You're right.
Reading the article again, I'm intrigued at the Judge's comment that a physician wasn't used in the artificial insemination. So how DID this transfer happen? Turkey baster? I don't mean to be crude, but if a physician wasn't used for the AI, how did these people do it?ya, i guess a baster works fine. i feel for the guy, but the state does have a point here.
n david
01-24-2014, 01:16 PM
ya, i guess a baster works fine. i feel for the guy, but the state does have a point here.
Yeah. Rules are rules. Sounds like they really didn't think it through or make sure everything was done the right way.
jfrog
01-24-2014, 02:52 PM
It makes sense to me. There were at least 2 original supporters of the child, the lesbian and her partner. It's likely the lesbians partner was supporting the child. The state realized this but couldn't legally go after her for the child support. Instead they forced the issue by getting the sperm donor for the child support. And the lesbian couple will likely help pay him back. Or if not the state may realize that he may even have strong civil case against them to get his money back.
n david
01-24-2014, 02:57 PM
It makes sense to me. There were at least 2 original supporters of the child, the lesbian and her partner. It's likely the lesbians partner was supporting the child. The state realized this but couldn't legally go after her for the child support. Instead they forced the issue by getting the sperm donor for the child support. And the lesbian couple will likely help pay him back. Or if not the state may realize that he may even have strong civil case against them to get his money back.
How would he be able to do that? I doubt they'll help pay him back...they need money/assistance.
MissBrattified
01-24-2014, 03:19 PM
I'm torn on this one, believe it or not. If the guy knowingly created a child with this woman (no matter how it was achieved), and didn't have any legalese in place to protect himself later, then he is being justly rewarded for his naiveté, at the very least. That said, with a good lawyer, I think this could be reversed.
Sasha
01-24-2014, 05:17 PM
So, the lesbian COUPLE wants a baby but doesn't want to support it?
Can't have it both ways....
Or perhaps you can. LOL!
jfrog
01-25-2014, 07:18 PM
I'm torn on this one, believe it or not. If the guy knowingly created a child with this woman (no matter how it was achieved), and didn't have any legalese in place to protect himself later, then he is being justly rewarded for his naiveté, at the very least. That said, with a good lawyer, I think this could be reversed.
Y'all are under the impression that both lesbians are in need of assistance. I bet that one lesbian works and makes fine money and the other stays at home and takes care of the child and makes no money. The working lesbian probably can provide for them all just fine and tey are probably just abusing the state assistance program. Legally the working lesbian has no obligation to take care of the child since she likely has no legal right to the child. In a perfect world they would have went after the working lesbian partner for the child support. That's not what the law allows though. The law allows them to go after the biological father. However the father might have a good lawsuit against the working lesbian if she was part of the contracts and such that were signed.
jfrog
01-25-2014, 07:26 PM
How would he be able to do that? I doubt they'll help pay him back...they need money/assistance.
They do? Or is one working at a good job and the other stays at home and takes care of the child. So maybe they are just abusing the program and the state can't touch them on that so they go after the only person they can?
Praxeas
01-25-2014, 07:32 PM
For a lot of people having a child is more about their selfish desires than the child's own life
Amanah
01-25-2014, 08:12 PM
I think selling/donating your sperm/eggs is a perversion of God's natural order.
In God's eyes the child is the flesh and blood of the biological parents and they are responsible to provide.
Sasha
01-26-2014, 09:19 AM
I think selling/donating your sperm/eggs is a perversion of God's natural order.
In God's eyes the child is the flesh and blood of the biological parents and they are responsible to provide.
I think it should only be done among families. For instance, if my son was unable to conceive a child on his own and wanted his brother to donate, I'd be fine with that. Yes, biologically the child would be his brothers, but it would always be my other son's child.
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