Valentine el Cheapo?

[KeptByTheWord]

We are really watching our pennies this year. Valentine's Day is around the corner. I'm looking for ideas to make V-Day special, but not expensive. Ideas anyone?

[Pressing-On]

We are really watching our pennies this year. Valentine's Day is around the corner. I'm looking for ideas to make V-Day special, but not expensive. Ideas anyone?

Well, one year we picked out Valentine cards at the grocery store, gave our choice to each other, read them, thanked each other, put them back on the shelf and knew we had saved some money. Then be bought a candy bar.

How's that idea? :heeheehee

[KeptByTheWord]

Well, one year we picked out Valentine cards at the grocery store, gave our choice to each other, read them, thanked each other, put them back on the shelf and knew we had saved some money. Then be bought a candy bar.

How's that idea? :heeheehee

LOVE IT! ... now that's cheap.... :nod .... but hey... it's the thought that counts right? :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

LOVE IT! ... now that's cheap.... :nod .... but hey... it's the thought that counts right? :heeheehee

That's what we thought. Besides, one year I spelled his name wrong. He was pretty shocked and commented he had never forgotten how to spell my name. :heeheehee

I'm feeling very romantic, can you tell? :heeheehee

[KeptByTheWord]

.... or how about the year that I found V-candy left over from last year, and regifted... no comments on the slightly chewy, stale chocolate :D

[KeptByTheWord]

yea... you're really in the mood girl.... ha! you've got about a week to get things in order! lol

[Pressing-On]

.... or how about the year that I found V-candy left over from last year, and regifted... no comments on the slightly chewy, stale chocolate :D
As long as nothing is crawling out of them, it's acceptable. :thumbsup

[ILG]

We are really watching our pennies this year. Valentine's Day is around the corner. I'm looking for ideas to make V-Day special, but not expensive. Ideas anyone?

Well you know what your husband wants and it doesn't cost anything. LOL!

[ILG]

One thing my husband has done for me is made a coupon book. "Good for one massage" "Good for one movie at home your pick" etc.

[KeptByTheWord]

Well you know what your husband wants and it doesn't cost anything. LOL!

:toofunny

[KeptByTheWord]

One thing my husband has done for me is made a coupon book. "Good for one massage" "Good for one movie at home your pick" etc.

That's a fun idea.... :thumbsup

[Pressing-On]

Well you know what your husband wants and it doesn't cost anything. LOL!
:heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

One thing my husband has done for me is made a coupon book. "Good for one massage" "Good for one movie at home your pick" etc.

That is so nice of him! :thumbsup

[ILG]

That is so nice of him! :thumbsup

Yes, come to think of it, I still have some. LOL!(rubs hands together)

[Pressing-On]

Yes, come to think of it, I still have some. LOL!(rubs hands together)

:thumbsup

[KeptByTheWord]

Yes, come to think of it, I still have some. LOL!(rubs hands together)

Cash em in girl! ... woohoo!

[ILG]

Cash em in girl! ... woohoo!

Yes, thanks for the reminder!! LOL!

[MissBrattified]

Well you know what your husband wants and it doesn't cost anything. LOL!

:D

Seriously...ILG's suggestion is the best way to go cheap. Make sure the house is all yours for the night, have a nice candlelit dinner at your own table and play some romantic music. Then...celebrate! :happydance

[Pressing-On]

:D

Seriously...ILG's suggestion is the best way to go cheap. Make sure the house is all yours for the night, have a nice candlelit dinner at your own table and play some romantic music. Then...celebrate! :happydance

You mean watch an episode of Duck Dynasty? :heeheehee

[MissBrattified]

You mean watch an episode of Duck Dynasty? :heeheehee

I would never have taken you for a DD fan...:heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

I would never have taken you for a DD fan...:heeheehee

LOL! I haven't seen all the episodes, but they are pretty clever to act so stupid and get paid for it. You have to respect that. :heeheehee

[MissBrattified]

LOL! I haven't seen all the episodes, but they are pretty clever to act so stupid and get paid for it. You have to respect that. :heeheehee

I actually like Duck Dynasty, and our kids love it--especially Uncle Si! We own seasons 1-3, but we haven't finished season 3 yet. Definitely not Valentine's Day material! :blink I really dislike watching tv/movies at all for a *date* night. It's a last resort to me. (And yes, I know you were joking. ;) )

[Pressing-On]

I actually like Duck Dynasty, and our kids love it--especially Uncle Si! We own seasons 1-3, but we haven't finished season 3 yet. Definitely not Valentine's Day material! :blink I really dislike watching tv/movies at all for a *date* night. It's a last resort to me. (And yes, I know you were joking. ;) )

Yea. we normally don't watch tv on date night either. Here's a pretty romantic song for Valentines. It is one of my favorites. I have his CD. He writes all of the music to his wife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRP5vq9n5eU

[Pressing-On]

Here's a cheapo idea for you, Kept! :heeheehee

http://saynotsweetanne.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_7130-copy.jpg

What does top half and bottom half mean? Half of what? :heeheehee

http://saynotsweetanne.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_7114-copy-300x200.jpg

[Pressing-On]

You could also make your hubby a little heart basket out of duct tape! I guess you could put that old candy in it, right? :heeheehee

http://looksisquare.com/sites/default/files/styles/medium/public/field/image/2.1.jpg

[KeptByTheWord]

Yea. we normally don't watch tv on date night either. Here's a pretty romantic song for Valentines. It is one of my favorites. I have his CD. He writes all of the music to his wife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRP5vq9n5eU

What a beautiful song! I've never heard of this artist. Wow!

[Pressing-On]

What a beautiful song! I've never heard of this artist. Wow!

This one is really pretty too! Although not a love song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_fm-D5bLd4

[KeptByTheWord]

Here's a cheapo idea for you, Kept! :heeheehee

http://saynotsweetanne.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_7130-copy.jpg

What does top half and bottom half mean? Half of what? :heeheehee

OOHH... cheap but.... naughty... lol...

You could also make your hubby a little heart basket out of duct tape! I guess you could put that old candy in it, right? :heeheehee LOL.... that's just .... ducky! ... I still have a huge chocolate mouth with the words "kiss me" written on it saved from years ago... I could brush off the dust... and voila!! Oh, these are gettin' better all the time... :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

OOHH... cheap but.... naughty... lol...

LOL.... that's just .... ducky! ... I still have a huge chocolate mouth with the words "kiss me" written on it saved from years ago... I could brush off the dust... and voila!! Oh, these are gettin' better all the time... :heeheehee

Awesome, girl!! I'm actually starting to get motivated for Valentine's Day. :heeheehee

[Timmy]

Last year, I gave her custom-made earrings, which counted for Valentine's, Mother's Day, her birthday, our anniversary, and Christmas. :happydance

But that was last year. So I asked her what she wants for Valentine's Day this year. She's a florist, so next week, known as "hell week" at the shop, will be full of very long work days. Gets home at 1 or 2 am, sometimes. So she said I could rub her feet when she gets home, run a bath, and bring her a glass of wine every night.

Maybe I'll get her chocolate covered strawberries. :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

Last year, I gave her custom-made earrings, which counted for Valentine's, Mother's Day, her birthday, our anniversary, and Christmas. :happydance

But that was last year. So I asked her what she wants for Valentine's Day this year. She's a florist, so next week, known as "hell week" at the shop, will be full of very long work days. Gets home at 1 or 2 am, sometimes. So she said I could rub her feet when she gets home, run a bath, and bring her a glass of wine every night.

Maybe I'll get her chocolate covered strawberries. :heeheehee

I can guarantee you I wouldn't be rubbing anyone's feet at 1 or 2 am. But, you go for it! :heeheehee Yes, chocolate covered strawberries would be great!

[ILG]

Rubbing her feet would get you mucho brownie points especially at 1 or 2 am!!

[Sasha]

I have kept all the wrappings with special messages on them from the Dove chocolates that I'll give to him this year. LOL! That's cheap!

[KeptByTheWord]

Well... let's see what we got here:

ILG's idea is the cheapest... between the sheets...
Pressing-On's is the stickiest.... a duct taped heart ....
MissB's is the corniest - a Duck Dynasty movie night....
Timmy's is the touchiest - a massage....
Mine is the stalest - candy from past V-days....
Sasha's idea is the sappiest - messages from the past....

... Things are looking up for V-Day... There are lots of great cheap-o ideas to choose from... :lol Keep the ideas flowing... let's feel the LOVE in this place... :heeheehee

[MissBrattified]

Well... let's see what we got here:

ILG's idea is the cheapest... between the sheets...
Pressing-On's is the stickiest.... a duct taped heart ....
MissB's is the corniest - a Duck Dynasty movie night....
Timmy's is the touchiest - a massage....
Mine is the stalest - candy from past V-days....
Sasha's idea is the sappiest - messages from the past....

... Things are looking up for V-Day... There are lots of great cheap-o ideas to choose from... :lol Keep the ideas flowing... let's feel the LOVE in this place... :heeheehee

:foottap I did NOT suggest Duck Dynasty. That was PO's brainstorm. I merely commiserated with ILG's between the sheets idea and suggested a nice dinner first...to class it up. :heeheehee

[KeptByTheWord]

:foottap I did NOT suggest Duck Dynasty. That was PO's brainstorm. I merely commiserated with ILG's between the sheets idea and suggested a nice dinner first...to class it up. :heeheehee

LOL... too funny! Just was making it as "corny" as possible... :heeheehee

How about this scenario? A nice classy dinner with candlelight (your suggestion)... PO's cutesy dice game with the beautiful song she shared playing in the background... insert ILG's coupon book idea and.... leave the rest to the imagination... :happydance

[ILG]

LOL... too funny! Just was making it as "corny" as possible... :heeheehee

How about this scenario? A nice classy dinner with candlelight (your suggestion)... PO's cutesy dice game with the beautiful song she shared playing in the background... insert ILG's coupon book idea and.... leave the rest to the imagination... :happydance

That would be inexpensive and nice. :thumbsup

[berkeley]

Well you know what your husband wants and it doesn't cost anything. LOL!-.-

[berkeley]

Ahem, mixed company here. Please, no more sheet talk unless you're doing laundry. Thanks.

[votivesoul]

Wash your husband's feet (literally) and tell him all the ways you respect him.

[Pressing-On]

:foottap I did NOT suggest Duck Dynasty. That was PO's brainstorm. I merely commiserated with ILG's between the sheets idea and suggested a nice dinner first...to class it up. :heeheehee

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh, I see. It's all about food with you! :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

Ahem, mixed company here. Please, no more sheet talk unless you're doing laundry. Thanks.

Bratti and ILG are both housewives. Of course it is about laundry. Hello! :spit

[Pressing-On]

LOL... too funny! Just was making it as "corny" as possible... :heeheehee

How about this scenario? A nice classy dinner with candlelight (your suggestion)... PO's cutesy dice game with the beautiful song she shared playing in the background... insert ILG's coupon book idea and.... leave the rest to the imagination... :happydance

Throw in Timmy's chocolate covered strawberries and you are good to go! :heeheehee

[ILG]

Bratti and ILG are both housewives. Of course it is about laundry. Hello! :spit

I never said what it was that husband's want at all. Berk plugged whatever he is thinking right in there. ;)

[ILG]

Wash your husband's feet (literally) and tell him all the ways you respect him.

That would be appreciated, I'm sure!

[Pressing-On]

I never said what it was that husband's want at all. Berk plugged whatever he is thinking right in there. ;)

Yea, he is just trolling. :heeheehee

[Sasha]

I heard of a husband who was so cheap that when he would take his wife to a movie, he would go in the garbage and get a large popcorn bucket and soda cup, empty them out, and get free refills. LOL!

[Pressing-On]

I heard of a husband who was so cheap that when he would take his wife to a movie, he would go in the garbage and get a large popcorn bucket and soda cup, empty them out, and get free refills. LOL!

Sounds like a segment from a reality show. :toofunny

[ILG]

I heard of a husband who was so cheap that when he would take his wife to a movie, he would go in the garbage and get a large popcorn bucket and soda cup, empty them out, and get free refills. LOL!

That is a couple on Extreme Cheapskates. That is so disgusting! This same guy took his wife out to eat and then went up to other tables and asked them if they were going to take the leftovers home and if they said no, he asked if he could have it!! It was so gross! His wife looked extremely embarrassed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqvaz1agICc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60K_VBkmwNk

[ILG]

I would rather stay home and hide. LOL!

[Pressing-On]

That is a couple on Extreme Cheapskates. That is so disgusting! This same guy took his wife out to eat and then went up to other tables and asked them if they were going to take the leftovers home and if they said no, he asked if he could have it!! It was so gross! His wife looked extremely embarrassed.


LOL! I was reading an article someone wrote regarding all of these reality shows, including Honey Boo Boo, the Kardashians, etc.

The writer asks, "When did it become normal in America to be white trash?" :heeheehee

[ILG]

LOL! I was reading an article someone wrote regarding all of these reality shows, including Honey Boo Boo, the Kardashians, etc.

The writer asks, "When did it become normal in America to be white trash?" :heeheehee

I think many of the reality shows are hyped. I don't think this guy is hyping anything up though. Bleah.

[Sasha]

Sounds like a segment from a reality show. :toofunny

It was something I saw on TV about people who have money but are CHEAP! One guy had hardly any furniture. His kitchen table was a fold up table with fold up chairs. Mattresses were on the floors. He spoke about how he gave his son $100 for his birthday, took the family out to eat, and made his son pay for it (came to just over $100). LOL! I think it was on Rachael Ray or something like that.

[Pressing-On]

I think many of the reality shows are hyped. I don't think this guy is hyping anything up though. Bleah.

I think they are hyped as well, and I agree - that guy is not hyping anything. lol

[Pressing-On]

It was something I saw on TV about people who have money but are CHEAP! One guy had hardly any furniture. His kitchen table was a fold up table with fold up chairs. Mattresses were on the floors. He spoke about how he gave his son $100 for his birthday, took the family out to eat, and made his son pay for it (came to just over $100). LOL! I think it was on Rachael Ray or something like that.

Sometimes people are just scary. :heeheehee

[ILG]

It was something I saw on TV about people who have money but are CHEAP! One guy had hardly any furniture. His kitchen table was a fold up table with fold up chairs. Mattresses were on the floors. He spoke about how he gave his son $100 for his birthday, took the family out to eat, and made his son pay for it (came to just over $100). LOL! I think it was on Rachael Ray or something like that.

I love to save money and stretch a buck but it can be a sickness.....:nod

[Sasha]

That is a couple on Extreme Cheapskates. That is so disgusting! This same guy took his wife out to eat and then went up to other tables and asked them if they were going to take the leftovers home and if they said no, he asked if he could have it!! It was so gross! His wife looked extremely embarrassed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqvaz1agICc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60K_VBkmwNk

Yeah, I saw that too. I thought some of these guys were on a daytime talk show too. I remember Rachael Ray or someone asking them for cheap tips. LOL!

[Sasha]

I think many of the reality shows are hyped. I don't think this guy is hyping anything up though. Bleah.

Many of them are, like REPO shows, PAWN shows, most of the stuff on TRUTV. Once I found out they were fake, I found a new reality show I love....


WRESTLING!

[ILG]

Many of them are, like REPO shows, PAWN shows, most of the stuff on TRUTV. Once I found out they were fake, I found a new reality show I love....


WRESTLING!

LOL! I hate wrestling!

[Pressing-On]

LOL! I hate wrestling!

For real! I think she was just kidding though. :heeheehee

Well, ya'll have a good one. Have to go and get my windshield replaced after a dump truck threw a rock almost into my lap. Scared me to death! Ugh!

[Sasha]

For real! I think she was just kidding though. :heeheehee

Well, ya'll have a good one. Have to go and get my windshield replaced after a dump truck threw a rock almost into my lap. Scared me to death! Ugh!

I loathe wrestling. My husband loves it. We compromise by not sleeping together when he wants to watch it.

[ILG]

I loathe wrestling. My husband loves it. We compromise by not sleeping together when he wants to watch it.

LOL!

[A239]

Take (him/her) out to five different restaurants.
1-get only a drink
2-appetizers
3-main dish
4-dessert
5-EAT!
I did this and my girlfriend loved it. It's fun and creative, and it's funny.

[KeptByTheWord]

Wash your husband's feet (literally) and tell him all the ways you respect him.

That is the most unique, and special idea so far! Our friend NavyGoat posted that he and his wife did this on New Year's Eve for each other. What an incredibly beautiful way to begin the year, or celebrate a special day.

[KeptByTheWord]

Take (him/her) out to five different restaurants.
1-get only a drink
2-appetizers
3-main dish
4-dessert
5-EAT!
I did this and my girlfriend loved it. It's fun and creative, and it's funny.

I've heard of groups doing the 5-course meals at different people's houses. This is a cool way to check out a bunch of different restaurants all in one evening!

[Sasha]

I've heard of groups doing the 5-course meals at different people's houses. This is a cool way to check out a bunch of different restaurants all in one evening!

Definitely not el cheapo...unless you are getting it off someone else's plate. LOL!

[KeptByTheWord]

I love to save money and stretch a buck but it can be a sickness.....:nod

Yes, I am all for saving money, but as with anything that is good, when it becomes something that consumes you, it has taken you too far. All things in moderation I say!

[KeptByTheWord]

Definitely not el cheapo...unless you are getting it off someone else's plate. LOL!

Nope, not el cheapo for sure...! ewww... getting it off someone else's plate!

The only "someone else's plate" would only be my husband's, as sometimes we share a plate... but... trash can digging, taking other people's leftovers... gag a gnat!

[berkeley]

:D Seriously...ILG's suggestion is the best way to go cheap. Make sure the house is all yours for the night, have a nice candlelit dinner at your own table and play some romantic music. Then...celebrate! :happydance


Yea, he is just trolling. :heeheehee really?

[johnny44]

We are really watching our pennies this year. Valentine's Day is around the corner. I'm looking for ideas to make V-Day special, but not expensive. Ideas anyone?YOUR Spanish is really bad.

[KeptByTheWord]

YOUR Spanish is really bad.

Thanks!!! :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

really?

LOL! We were just messin' with ya.

[berkeley]

dirty old ladies

[MissBrattified]

dirty old ladies

Dirty? Now I'm taking offense. There's nothing dirty about married sex, and to be clear, that is precisely what we were referencing. :smack

I'm reminded of when my niece was a few days away from getting married and she made a passing remark about how she was about to be a "dirty girl." I wheeled on her and told her that she would be nothing of the sort. Sex within a marriage is clean and wholesome and nothing about it makes a person "dirty."

We've had much more graphic conversations on this forum about nearly everything discussable, including homosexuality, so I think the prudish response here is unwarranted. :foottap

[Pressing-On]

Dirty? Now I'm taking offense. There's nothing dirty about married sex, and to be clear, that is precisely what we were referencing. :smack

I'm reminded of when my niece was a few days away from getting married and she made a passing remark about how she was about to be a "dirty girl." I wheeled on her and told her that she would be nothing of the sort. Sex within a marriage is clean and wholesome and nothing about it makes a person "dirty."

We've had much more graphic conversations on this forum about nearly everything discussable, including homosexuality, so I think the prudish response here is unwarranted. :foottap

You go girl!!! :highfive

I would only add that I believe Berkeley is only yanking our chains and doesn't really mean what he typed. He is like that on this forum. I rarely take him seriously. :heeheehee

[MissBrattified]

You go girl!!! :highfive

I would only add that I believe Berkeley is only yanking our chains and doesn't really mean what he typed. He is like that on this forum. I rarely take him seriously. :heeheehee

Hmmm...badly placed jokes can still get you a kick in the shins. :D

[Pressing-On]

Hmmm...badly placed jokes can still get you a kick in the shins. :D

:heeheehee

Saw this and thought of your post. Had to edit it in. :toofunny

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1350715657294_9096135.png

[MissBrattified]

Perfect. :D

[Pressing-On]

This goes along with the Sugar Kills thread..... :heeheehee

Thought it was an interesting sugar cookie recipe as it uses Cake Flour in the place of all-purpose flour. Notice the TWO, count it, TWO cups of Crisco. :heeheehee

Men will eat it and you won't have to rub their feet. Win, Win! :thumbsup :heeheehee

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NuRJQkqRb-k/TVFaaYocqpI/AAAAAAAAAG8/2N5eQu2_fwI/s400/CookieforCure_Pink+Heart.jpg

World Famous Paradise Bakery Sugar Cookies with Magnolia Bakery Buttercream Frosting
http://kariscooking.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-famous-paradise-bakery-sugar.html

[KeptByTheWord]

Dirty? Now I'm taking offense. There's nothing dirty about married sex, and to be clear, that is precisely what we were referencing. :smack

I'm reminded of when my niece was a few days away from getting married and she made a passing remark about how she was about to be a "dirty girl." I wheeled on her and told her that she would be nothing of the sort. Sex within a marriage is clean and wholesome and nothing about it makes a person "dirty."

We've had much more graphic conversations on this forum about nearly everything discussable, including homosexuality, so I think the prudish response here is unwarranted. :foottap

:yourock

[KeptByTheWord]

This goes along with the Sugar Kills thread..... :heeheehee

Thought it was an interesting sugar cookie recipe as it uses Cake Flour in the place of all-purpose flour. Notice the TWO, count it, TWO cups of Crisco. :heeheehee

Men will eat it and you won't have to rub their feet. Win, Win! :thumbsup :heeheehee

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NuRJQkqRb-k/TVFaaYocqpI/AAAAAAAAAG8/2N5eQu2_fwI/s400/CookieforCure_Pink+Heart.jpg

World Famous Paradise Bakery Sugar Cookies with Magnolia Bakery Buttercream Frosting
http://kariscooking.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-famous-paradise-bakery-sugar.html

Not so sure about the bolded above.... not in my house anyway... :heeheehee

Those cookies certainly look yummy though!

[berkeley]

that convo needed to take place in a women's forum....

[Pressing-On]

Not so sure about the bolded above.... not in my house anyway... :heeheehee

Those cookies certainly look yummy though!

I'm not rubbing my husband's feet. He can pull out my footbath and soak his feet in Epsom Salt and peppermint oil. Of course, he wouldn't do that as it would make him appear to be feminine.

Yes, the cookies look great for a party where no one really cares what they are eating. It's all about presentation. :heeheehee I will eat Velveeta cheese dip at a party. Taste really good with celery. :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

that convo needed to take place in a women's forum....

Amigo! Why do you keeping reading this thread then? :heeheehee

[KeptByTheWord]

Amigo! Why do you keeping reading this thread then? :heeheehee

lol!

[KeptByTheWord]

Wash your husband's feet (literally) and tell him all the ways you respect him.

I'm not rubbing my husband's feet. He can pull out my footbath and soak his feet in Epsom Salt and peppermint oil. Of course, he wouldn't do that as it would make him appear to be feminine.

You mean you are not going to try this? I am seriously considering this. NG commented on how special it was at New Years when he and his wife did it. I think it could be a very special thing to do.

Yes, the cookies look great for a party where no one really cares what they are eating. It's all about presentation. :heeheehee I will eat Velveeta cheese dip at a party. Taste really good with celery. :heeheehee

Ya... parties are tough. A nibble here, and a nibble there, and before long, you have no idea how much you've consumed. Celery eh.... do you bring your own? lol.... I've never seen celery offered with Velveeta cheese dip, it just seems insulting to the cheese, to not eat it with a chip!

[Godzchild]

My early Valentines Day gift from my sweet loving husband! I feel very blessed, not because of the gift but because I have a man who God brought into my life over 33 years ago....also that I can say we truly have a blessed marriage! Hope everyone has a blessed Valentines Day!

[Pressing-On]

You mean you are not going to try this? I am seriously considering this. NG commented on how special it was at New Years when he and his wife did it. I think it could be a very special thing to do.
No, I am seriously not that humble. :heeheehee

[Ya... parties are tough. A nibble here, and a nibble there, and before long, you have no idea how much you've consumed. Celery eh.... do you bring your own? lol.... I've never seen celery offered with Velveeta cheese dip, it just seems insulting to the cheese, to not eat it with a chip!
LOL! Most parties I have attended have a vegetable tray. I always have a vegetable tray if I host. And if I am invited to a particular party or attending a function at church, I will ask if I could bring a vegetable tray. Most people don't like fooling with them and welcome someone taking care of that.

When I was in sales and we had to attend functions, i.e., open houses, etc., I learned that many people who have a career will drink smoothies for breakfast and lunch in order not to insult the host at dinner and to, especially, watch their weight. I think it's a great idea and have tried to adopt that for any day I know I will be at a party.

There is much less guilt involved in dipping celery in cheese dip than a Dorito. :heeheehee

[ILG]

This goes along with the Sugar Kills thread..... :heeheehee

Thought it was an interesting sugar cookie recipe as it uses Cake Flour in the place of all-purpose flour. Notice the TWO, count it, TWO cups of Crisco. :heeheehee

Men will eat it and you won't have to rub their feet. Win, Win! :thumbsup :heeheehee

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NuRJQkqRb-k/TVFaaYocqpI/AAAAAAAAAG8/2N5eQu2_fwI/s400/CookieforCure_Pink+Heart.jpg

World Famous Paradise Bakery Sugar Cookies with Magnolia Bakery Buttercream Frosting
http://kariscooking.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-famous-paradise-bakery-sugar.html

Crisco??? No way!!!!That is the worst stuff ever!

[ILG]

that convo needed to take place in a women's forum....

Methinks you are being a bit over-sensitive. And I notice you keep reading. Christians are supposed to support wholesome Christian relations.

[Pressing-On]

Crisco??? No way!!!!That is the worst stuff ever!

And TWO cups to boot! Did you see the scene in The Help where Minny tells Celia that you can use Crisco to rub into your husband's feet to keep them soft? And we thought baby oil turned them on. Think what Crisco would do! :heeheehee OOOps, don't read that, Berk. :toofunny

[ILG]

And TWO cups to boot! Did you see the scene in The Help where Minny tells Celia that you can use Crisco to rub into your husband's feet to keep them soft? And we thought baby oil turned them on. Think what Crisco would do! :heeheehee OOOps, don't read that, Berk. :toofunny

Well, I use, um, expeller-pressed liquid coconut oil. *cough*:happydance

[Pressing-On]

Well, I use, um, expeller-pressed liquid coconut oil. *cough*:happydance

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! :highfive

Bratti is going to close this thread before long. :heeheehee

[ILG]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! :highfive

Bratti is going to close this thread before long. :heeheehee

Not before she throws in her two cents! LOL!:heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

Not before she throws in her two cents! LOL!:heeheehee
:toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

[MissBrattified]

Oh, dear. LOL!!!! Yep, you guys are going to get the thread closed. :heeheehee

[Pressing-On]

Oh, dear. LOL!!!! Yep, you guys are going to get the thread closed. :heeheehee

:heeheehee

It's all about the candy...

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607987835221770706&pid=1.7

[Esaias]

We are really watching our pennies this year. Valentine's Day is around the corner. I'm looking for ideas to make V-Day special, but not expensive. Ideas anyone?

Valentine's Day is a pagan festival, so you could save money by ignoring it. :)

http://www.witchology.com/contents/february/valentines_static.php

Pagan Origins of a Popular Christian Festival
As an estimated one billion cards* are exchanged this St Valentine's Day spare a thought for the ancient Pagan custom that the Catholic Church has tried to hide from you, for St Valentine's Day is the Eve of Lupercalia, the Pagan Roman festival of fertility.

Love is a Lottery
In fact, the 14th of February was the day specially set aside for love lotteries in Pagan Rome. A holiday devoted to Juno, Queen of the Gods, and patroness of marriage, the 14th was also the day on which young girls' names were written on slips of paper and thrown into jars to be picked out by the boys. Chooser and chosen would then be partnered for the duration of the Lupercalia festival. Such arbitrary pairings often resulted in lasting relationships. The Catholic Church later substituted the names of dead saints in place of those of flesh-and-blood girls to subvert the lusty Pagan practice.

The Lupercalia proper began on the 15th of February with animal sacrifice and ritual flagellation. After slaughtering a goat and dog in the sacred grotto of the she-wolf who suckled the legendary founders of Rome, the young men would run through the streets whipping women and crops with the flayed hide of the goat to promote fertility. Archaeological evidence suggests that the Lupercalia, far from being restricted to Rome, was practised in other cities in Italy and Gaul.

Dating from remotest antiquity, the Lupercalia was celebrated until as late as the reign of Anastasius I in 491-518 CE. It was towards the end of the 5th century in 498 CE that Pope Galesius decided to dedicate the Eve of Lupercalia to the long-dead priest. The lottery system was banned as being un-Christian and the Pope did his best to make people forget about other un-Christian ideas such as fertility.

Mating Season
However, the Pagan principles of the people proved irrepressible. Memories of the Roman Lupercalia combined with folklore beliefs in Britain and France that the 14th of February marked the beginning of the mating season amongst birds to ensure that this day would persist in the popular imagination as a day of love.

The oldest extant Valentine message is a poem written by Charles, Duke of Orleans, in 1415 to his wife. He had good reason to write: he was imprisoned in the Tower of London after being captured at the Battle of Agincourt. It proved a popular idea and some years later it is believed that Henry V hired John Lydgate to compose a Valentine missive to Catherine of Valois.

Despite such early precedents, St Valentine's Day did not become a widely celebrated event in Britain until the 17th century. Printed cards did not appear until the late 18th century, but it was not until the 1840's that Esther A. Howland entered the history books as the first person to sell the first mass-produced Valentine cards in the United States.

The Magic of Love or Love Magic?
But why send a card and why make it anonymous? Either we believe one of the Christian legends and accept that we all celebrate the giving of a love token of 3rd century priest by sending a replica, or look deeper into the significances of giving and anonymity. The act of giving, stripped of any moral sentiment, is usually one of status modification, for example, how many times do you hear people boasting of how they give to charity? However, in this instance the giver's identity is carefully concealed. The card itself acts simply as the vehicle of the giver's desire. The message that accompanies such cards is most often in the imperative, Be My Valentine, Be My Love, and so on. The structure of this exchange is remarkably similar to many magical formulae.

Christians Against the Fun
Even the Christians, originally responsible for foisting St Valentine on this festival, are re-assessing their position. Biblestudy.org, amongst many others, has come clean and admitted that Valentine's Day has nothing to do with a long dead saint, and everything to do with our Pagan heritage. Of course, they were horrified and immediately wanted to ban it:

It is about time we examined these customs of the pagans now falsely labeled Christian. It is time we quit this Roman and Babylonian foolishness - this idolatry - and get back to the faith of Christ delivered once for all time. Let's stop teaching our children these pagan customs in memory of Baal the sun god - the original St. Valentine - and teach them instead what the Bible really says!
So, the next time you ask someone to be your Valentine, try not to forget that you are engaging in a millennia old fertility rite and, what is more, dabbling in a little magic to boot.

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/14/133693152/the-dark-origins-of-valentines-day

Valentine's Day is a time to celebrate romance and love and kissy-face fealty. But the origins of this festival of candy and cupids are actually dark, bloody — and a bit muddled.

Though no one has pinpointed the exact origin of the holiday, one good place to start is ancient Rome, where men hit on women by, well, hitting them.

Those Wild and Crazy Romans

From Feb. 13 to 15, the Romans celebrated the feast of Lupercalia. The men sacrificed a goat and a dog, then whipped women with the hides of the animals they had just slain.

The Roman romantics "were drunk. They were naked," says Noel Lenski, a historian at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Young women would actually line up for the men to hit them, Lenski says. They believed this would make them fertile.

The brutal fete included a matchmaking lottery, in which young men drew the names of women from a jar. The couple would then be, um, coupled up for the duration of the festival – or longer, if the match was right.

The ancient Romans may also be responsible for the name of our modern day of love. Emperor Claudius II executed two men — both named Valentine — on Feb. 14 of different years in the 3rd century A.D. Their martyrdom was honored by the Catholic Church with the celebration of St. Valentine's Day.

Later, Pope Gelasius I muddled things in the 5th century by combining St. Valentine's Day with Lupercalia to expel the pagan rituals. But the festival was more of a theatrical interpretation of what it had once been. Lenski adds, "It was a little more of a drunken revel, but the Christians put clothes back on it. That didn't stop it from being a day of fertility and love."

Around the same time, the Normans celebrated Galatin's Day. Galatin meant "lover of women." That was likely confused with St. Valentine's Day at some point, in part because they sound alike.


As the years went on, the holiday grew sweeter. Chaucer and Shakespeare romanticized it in their work, and it gained popularity throughout Britain and the rest of Europe. Handmade paper cards became the tokens-du-jour in the Middle Ages.

Eventually, the tradition made its way to the New World. The industrial revolution ushered in factory-made cards in the 19th century. And in 1913, Hallmark Cards of Kansas City, Mo., began mass producing valentines. February has not been the same since.

Today, the holiday is big business: According to market research firm IBIS World, Valentine's Day sales reached $17.6 billion last year; this year's sales are expected to total $18.6 billion.

But that commercialization has spoiled the day for many. Helen Fisher, a sociologist at Rutgers University, says we have only ourselves to blame.

"This isn't a command performance," she says. "If people didn't want to buy Hallmark cards, they would not be bought, and Hallmark would go out of business."

And so the celebration of Valentine's Day goes on, in varied ways. Many will break the bank buying jewelry and flowers for their beloveds. Others will celebrate in a SAD (that's Single Awareness Day) way, dining alone and binging on self-gifted chocolates. A few may even be spending this day the same way the early Romans did. But let's not go there.

[MissBrattified]

"St. Valentine's Day began as a liturgical celebration of one or more early Christian saints named Valentinus. Several martyrdom stories were invented for the various Valentines that belonged to February 14, and added to later martyrologies.[2] A popular hagiographical account of Saint Valentine of Rome states that he was imprisoned for performing weddings for soldiers who were forbidden to marry and for ministering to Christians, who were persecuted under the Roman Empire. According to legend, during his imprisonment, he healed the daughter of his jailer, Asterius. An embellishment to this story states that before his execution he wrote her a letter signed "Your Valentine" as a farewell.[3] Today, Saint Valentine's Day is an official feast day in the Anglican Communion,[4] as well as in the Lutheran Church.[5] The Eastern Orthodox Church also celebrates Saint Valentine's Day, albeit on July 6th and July 30th, the former date in honor of the Roman presbyter Saint Valentine, and the latter date in honor of Hieromartyr Valentine, the Bishop of Interamna (modern Terni). In Brazil, the Dia de São Valentim is recognized on June 12.

The day was first associated with romantic love in the circle of Geoffrey Chaucer in the High Middle Ages, when the tradition of courtly love flourished. In 18th-century England, it evolved into an occasion in which lovers expressed their love for each other by presenting flowers, offering confectionery, and sending greeting cards (known as "valentines"). Valentine's Day symbols that are used today include the heart-shaped outline, doves, and the figure of the winged Cupid. Since the 19th century, handwritten valentines have given way to mass-produced greeting cards.[6]"--SOURCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine's_Day#Legends)


Chaucer & St. Valentine's Day (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2013/02/chaucer-st-valentines-day/)

"...Lupercalia
Main article: Lupercalia
There is no evidence of any link between St. Valentine's Day and the rites of the ancient Roman festival, despite many claims by many authors.[15][37][notes 1] The celebration of Saint Valentine did not have any romantic connotations until Chaucer's poetry about "Valentines" in the 14th century.[21]

Popular modern sources claim links to unspecified Greco-Roman February holidays alleged to be devoted to fertility and love to St. Valentine's Day, but prior to Chaucer in the 14th century, there were no links between the Saints named Valentinus and romantic love.[21] Earlier links as described above were focused on sacrifice rather than romantic love. In the ancient Athenian calendar the period between mid-January and mid-February was the month of Gamelion, dedicated to the sacred marriage of Zeus and Hera.

In Ancient Rome, Lupercalia, observed February 13–15, was an archaic rite connected to fertility. Lupercalia was a festival local to the city of Rome. The more general Festival of Juno Februa, meaning "Juno the purifier "or "the chaste Juno", was celebrated on February 13–14. Pope Gelasius I (492–496) abolished Lupercalia. Some researchers have theorized that Gelasius I replaced Lupercalia with the celebration of the Purification of Mary in February 14 and claim a connection to the 14th century's connotations of romantic love, but there is no historical indication that he ever intended such a thing.[notes 2][38] Also, the dates don't fit because at the time of Gelasius I the feast was only celebrated in Jerusalem, and it was on February 14 only because Jerusalem placed the Nativity on January 6th.[notes 3] Although it was called "Purification of Mary", it dealt mainly with the presentation of Jesus at the temple.[39] The Jerusalem's Purification of Mary in February 14 became the Presentation of Jesus at the Temple in February 2 as it was introduced to Rome and other places in the sixth century, after Gelasius I's time.[40]

Alban Butler in his Lifes of the Principal Saints (1756–1759) claimed without proof that men and women in Lupercalia drew names from a jar to make couples, and that modern Valentine's letters originated from this custom. In reality, this practice originated in the Middle Ages, with no link to Lupercalia, with men drawing the names of girls at random to couple with them. This custom was combated by priests, for example by Frances de Sales around 1600, apparently by replacing it with a religious custom of girls drawing the names of apostles from the altar. However, this religious custom is recorded as soon as the 13th century in the life of Saint Elizabeth of Hungary, so it could have a different origin.[15]"--SOURCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine's_Day#Legends)

[Esaias]

Well we all know Wikipedia is the endgame of all knowledge and debate, lol.

The Lupercalia is a fact, the rituals of Valentine's Day are replications of the Lupercalia. Everyone knows it except Christians who continue its observance. The Wiccans know it, the neo-pagans know it, the catholics know it, the Protestants knew it, even NPR knows it.

And now AFF knows it. lol

[Esaias]

BTW, posting a wikipedia article claiming Valentine's Day has no link to the Lupercalia because romanticism did not attach to Valentine's Day until Chaucer prove my point - EVERYBODY romanticises Valentine's Day (this thread is PROOF of that claim!) and THEREFORE celebrants are celebrating the Lupercalia under the name of Valentine's Day.

Nobody here is going to Mass on Feb 14th to say prayers for and seek intercessions from Saint Valentine.

:)

[Pressing-On]

BTW, posting a wikipedia article claiming Valentine's Day has no link to the Lupercalia because romanticism did not attach to Valentine's Day until Chaucer prove my point - EVERYBODY romanticises Valentine's Day (this thread is PROOF of that claim!) and THEREFORE celebrants are celebrating the Lupercalia under the name of Valentine's Day.

Nobody here is going to Mass on Feb 14th to say prayers for and seek intercessions from Saint Valentine.

:)

Probably not unless Apostolics hold "Mass". No, they don't. :heeheehee

[KeptByTheWord]

Esaias, do you celebrate your children's birthdays?

[MissBrattified]

BTW, posting a wikipedia article claiming Valentine's Day has no link to the Lupercalia because romanticism did not attach to Valentine's Day until Chaucer prove my point - EVERYBODY romanticises Valentine's Day (this thread is PROOF of that claim!) and THEREFORE celebrants are celebrating the Lupercalia under the name of Valentine's Day.

Nobody here is going to Mass on Feb 14th to say prayers for and seek intercessions from Saint Valentine.

:)

Esaias, wikipedia is user-edited, but then most of the web is "user-contributed", so...:blink At least their articles are required to add source links, and if the sources aren't verifiable someone goes in and notates it. That makes it a bit more reliable than random un-sourced writings found in multiple places on the Interwebs :rolleyes2. Further, if someone begins writing an article with an agenda, often they end up proof-texting history the same way many people proof-text scripture. It makes their opinions biased and therefore untrustworthy. When I go to a website or blog and their articles are all slanted in one direction, that's a throw-away to me. I prefer more analytical and objective exploration from all sides, with no hidden agenda; only an interest in finding the truth of each matter individually.

I read through more objective accounts of Lupercalia, and I can't see any sound correlation between the ancient festival and St. Valentine's Day, other than sharing a date. Here's the deal: pick a day of the year or any holiday at all and I can probably find some "ancient pagan festival" that coincided with it and I'll wager it included fertility rituals and sacrifices. The fact that a holiday is set on the same date as some other ancient observance and even included similar elements doesn't establish any real connection. I'm interested in history and truth, but I also don't believe that shared dates mean that a holiday is off-limits to Christians. What matters more to ME, even if a link IS shown, is what is celebrated NOW and whether or not our current practices and traditions are carried out in a Christlike manner. Of course I would oppose any sort of riotous, bloody, immoral fertility rituals--for multiple reasons, not simply because of pagan origins. It would be because the rituals themselves are inhumane, immoral and/or ungodly.

Ultimately, I see nothing positive in tossing out every "gentile" tradition or piece of history simply because it's not *Jewish* and therefore (somehow) superior. It's hilarious how people will put a stamp of approval on anything as long as they can find a Jewish connection, but let it be of Gentile origin and somehow that makes it inherently bad. For the record, "pagan" and "Gentile" are pretty much interchangeable terms. Newsflash, unless your ancestors are Jews, you're a Gentile/pagan by birth and so is all your history. I think it's silly to throw out and dishonor all of your history and ancestors in favor of pseudo-Judaism. (Not that you do that--but there are people who do.) I don't think God expects that of Gentile Christians. I think He expects us to clean up what needs cleaning up and the rest is fine. If it's immoral, stop; if it's not, move on. If it's sinful, don't do it; if it's not sinful, don't worry about it.

These types of conversations don't resonate with me, because unlike you, I don't see connection with paganism [read: Gentiles] as inherently bad.

[berkeley]

Valentines Day... another day when Apostolics are Catholic!

[MissBrattified]

Valentines Day... another day when Apostolics are Catholic!

Which is worse? Being associated with Catholicism or being associated with paganism? Pick your poison. :D

[berkeley]

Which is worse? Being associated with Catholicism or being associated with paganism? Pick your poison. :DCatholicism is paganism

[MissBrattified]

Catholicism is paganism

But is paganism Catholicism? :hmmm

[KeptByTheWord]

So, I guess the question Esaias brought up is this: If there is any celebration that our culture embraces that has its origins in some pagan rite or festival, is it wrong for a Christian to celebrate it? Where do you draw the line at? Do you stop celebrating birthdays? (The pagans celebrated birthdays.) Just wondering...

[MissBrattified]

So, I guess the question Esaias brought up is this: If there is any celebration that our culture embraces that has its origins in some pagan rite or festival, is it wrong for a Christian to celebrate it? Where do you draw the line at? Do you stop celebrating birthdays? (The pagans celebrated birthdays.) Just wondering...

For me, it's about drawing a line at sinful behavior. If a celebration includes sinful behavior, then I won't participate. That's why we've never celebrated Mardi Gras. I don't care about its roots so much as the debauchery it presently endorses. If all Mardi Gras involved these days was a King Cake and some silly hats, then I would probably let go of my objections.

I think some people forget that we ARE pagans/Gentiles. I'm not interested in laying aside every single thing that is a part of my history; only the sin and idols. Becoming a Christian didn't make me a "spiritual Jew"; it made me a Gentile Christian. I'm interested in making my life a reflection of Christ; not trying to create a different culture for myself altogether. That's what some of the New Testament Jewish Christians struggled with; they thought their job was to make the Gentiles more Jewish; no, their job was to bring them to Christ. God wasn't interested in turning the Gentiles into Jews. :)

[KeptByTheWord]

Since it is almost Valentine's Day, thought I'd resurrect this old thread. :gaga

[diakonos]

We are really watching our pennies this year. Valentine's Day is around the corner. I'm looking for ideas to make V-Day special, but not expensive. Ideas anyone?

Ideas? Repent...

[diakonos]

Well you know what your husband wants and it doesn't cost anything. LOL!

¡Cochinadas!

[diakonos]

Dirty? Now I'm taking offense. There's nothing dirty about married sex, and to be clear, that is precisely what we were referencing. :smack

I'm reminded of when my niece was a few days away from getting married and she made a passing remark about how she was about to be a "dirty girl." I wheeled on her and told her that she would be nothing of the sort. Sex within a marriage is clean and wholesome and nothing about it makes a person "dirty."

We've had much more graphic conversations on this forum about nearly everything discussable, including homosexuality, so I think the prudish response here is unwarranted. :foottap

:lol

[diakonos]

Since it is almost Valentine's Day, thought I'd resurrect this old thread. :gaga

Why!? Why did you do this? :lol

[diakonos]

Anyone notice that the holidays Christians celebrate supposedly have no link to paganism, yet they are celebrated on the same dates??? ROFLOL

[Evang.Benincasa]

Anyone notice that the holidays Christians celebrate supposedly have no link to paganism, yet they are celebrated on the same dates??? ROFLOL

There is No Place Like Rome, There is No Place Like Rome, There is No Place Like Rome, There is No Place Like Rome, There is No Place Like Rome

https://media1.giphy.com/media/KeQ3dG4POE37DNAtVm/giphy.gif

[Esaias]

A thread about the Lupercalia? yee haw.

[Evang.Benincasa]

A thread about the Lupercalia? yee haw.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQLdWrXomfoaE1cxdn-cjZ909zvHltMYBD8mg9UeCYBpJjf4Gzn

[KeptByTheWord]

Everything we do has some sort of pagan origin. The pagans and the Jews/Christians have swapped traditions back and forth since Adam and Eve. Nothing new is under the sun.

That's my opinion of the whole mess. We can't change the fact that the days of the week, months of the year, time calendar, and everything else we do originates back to a pagan custom.

So I'm going to live my life unto the Lord, redeeming the time, and the days for Him, in all I do. Every day is the Lord's. :thumbsup :roseglasses

[KeptByTheWord]

Why!? Why did you do this? :lol

You needed a good laugh, and maybe a good idea or two about tomorrow :happydance

[Esaias]

Everything we do has some sort of pagan origin.

Who is this "we" you speak of?

The pagans and the Jews/Christians have swapped traditions back and forth since Adam and Eve. Nothing new is under the sun.

You are correct, people have been mixing idolatry into the worship of God for a long time.

That's my opinion of the whole mess. We can't change the fact that the days of the week, months of the year, time calendar, and everything else we do originates back to a pagan custom.

The days of the week are not of pagan origin. The NAMES are of pagan origin. Nobody is "celebrating the days of the week", or their names. There is a difference between simply referring to a day (or month) by its common name on the one hand, and voluntarily willfully (even knowingly) choosing to actively participate in a pagan RELIGIOUS HOLY DAY on the other.

And again, this "we" thing? Not everyone is practicing paganism, you know.

[Esaias]

Funny how so many people who love God and have repented of the paganism and sin of the world, joyfully and gleefully celebrate just about every holy day of demon worship, but wouldn't be caught dead celebrating any day God Himself established as a unique day. I find that... interesting.

[KeptByTheWord]

I am living every day as best I can, as unto the Lord. I desire to learn, and grow in the Word and in my relationship with the Lord. But I realize that even to the best of my ability, I may have doctrinal errancy. It is with a humble heart I seek the Lord to root out any of those things.

The Pharisees did everything to the best of their ability to follow correct doctrine, but what was lacking was their humbleness to admit they could be wrong, and they missed Jesus, the very one they were looking for.

Every day is the Lord's, and I seek to put Him first in all I do.

[Esaias]

The Pharisees did everything to the best of their ability to follow correct doctrine, but what was lacking was their humbleness to admit they could be wrong, and they missed Jesus, the very one they were looking for.



Actually this is incorrect. The Pharisees did everything to the best of their ability to find loopholes and reasons not to do what God plainly said to do. They missed Jesus because they were of their father the devil, not because of some personality defect.

[KeptByTheWord]

Actually this is incorrect. The Pharisees did everything to the best of their ability to find loopholes and reasons not to do what God plainly said to do. They missed Jesus because they were of their father the devil, not because of some personality defect.

True that. But they still missed Jesus.

I don't want to get so caught up in getting doctrine correct, or finding loopholes, or whatever the case may be, that I miss Jesus in the process.

The spirit of Phariseeism is still alive and well today. There is nothing new under the sun.

Let us beware in our search and desire for correct doctrine (which is not a bad thing at all), that we don't get our focus more on the doctrine, than on our relationship with Him.

And I speak to myself in this as well.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Everything we do has some sort of pagan origin. The pagans and the Jews/Christians have swapped traditions back and forth since Adam and Eve. Nothing new is under the sun.

That's my opinion of the whole mess. We can't change the fact that the days of the week, months of the year, time calendar, and everything else we do originates back to a pagan custom.

So I'm going to live my life unto the Lord, redeeming the time, and the days for Him, in all I do. Every day is the Lord's. :thumbsup :roseglasses

You don't celebrate days of the week. This thread is about a day selected where the adherents perform special practices. Big difference then waking up and going to work on Odin's day. Or meeting with the church family for breakfast, and prayer on Saturn's day. We aren't making it festival celebration, giving of gifts, or special anything. It is a day, the day has names from old English, Norse, and Rome. Interesting though the choice of redeeming the time. It is followed with "for the days are EVIL. A little ecclesiastical Freudian slip? :lol

[Evang.Benincasa]

True that. But they still missed Jesus.

I don't want to get so caught up in getting doctrine correct, or finding loopholes, or whatever the case may be, that I miss Jesus in the process.

The spirit of Phariseeism is still alive and well today. There is nothing new under the sun.

Let us beware in our search and desire for correct doctrine (which is not a bad thing at all), that we don't get our focus more on the doctrine, than on our relationship with Him.

And I speak to myself in this as well.

Please excuse me, but the above really doesn't make sense.

How do you have a relationship with someone but don't do what they ask?

Puzzled in Fort Lauderdale.

[Evang.Benincasa]

I am living every day as best I can, as unto the Lord. I desire to learn, and grow in the Word and in my relationship with the Lord. But I realize that even to the best of my ability, I may have doctrinal errancy. It is with a humble heart I seek the Lord to root out any of those things.

The Pharisees did everything to the best of their ability to follow correct doctrine, but what was lacking was their humbleness to admit they could be wrong, and they missed Jesus, the very one they were looking for.

Every day is the Lord's, and I seek to put Him first in all I do.

Pharisees did their best to change the definitions of what God actually meant.
They were trying to make God into their image.

[Nicodemus1968]

Please excuse me, but the above really doesn't make sense.

How do you have a relationship with someone but don't do what they ask?

Puzzled in Fort Lauderdale.

Sounds like your writing to “Dear Abby”

[Nicodemus1968]

True that. But they still missed Jesus.

I don't want to get so caught up in getting doctrine correct, or finding loopholes, or whatever the case may be, that I miss Jesus in the process.

The spirit of Phariseeism is still alive and well today. There is nothing new under the sun.

Let us beware in our search and desire for correct doctrine (which is not a bad thing at all), that we don't get our focus more on the doctrine, than on our relationship with Him.

And I speak to myself in this as well.

I understand what your saying. I believe we worship the God of the doctrine, not the doctrine. Some men love the standards, doctrine more than they do the God of them. I’m a simple man, the Bible says

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The personal relationship you have with Jesus will determine how you live for God. So as long as you have a loving relationship with Jesus your not going searching for loopholes.