Self-Condemnation Ever Attack You?

[Jacob's Ladder]

Have you ever experienced such a massive trial, you thought it would literally kill you or make you go insane? Mine was two years ago. Through this trial, you fell into a depression, and anxiety and panic attacks came along into the battle to destroy you. You then began going to various physicians, and at one minute that would find something, in the next minute they would say it has disappeared. Through this trial, you had strangers approach you, give you encouragement, and walk away. Through this trial, you had prophets explain your past, describe your present condition, and prophesy your future. In this trial, you experienced hell for three months, and at the end of these three months, you were hospitalized with a heart attack. After a five day hospital stay, they said you did not experience a heart attack and do not know what made your troponin level elevate.

You keep your promises and start living for God after you were delivered from this trial, but slowly find yourself breaking promises. People would say God was using you tremendously, but now you are sitting at the sidelines entertaining other ideas. You know that your failures have always been due to the flesh, and you keep falling into the same trap, time after time. You realize you are not where you are supposed to be, but your current situation has numbed you, and you are not seeking God anymore. God had become and occasional prayer and a typical Tuesday and Sunday encounter. Your past begins to haunt you. You conclude that you usually seek God when you are feeling bad.

Self-condemnation begins to attack you. In addition, little fear over certain situations begins to arise in your life. You tell God, you do not want to return to your former status, but you know you have failed God once again. Then, as of late, God begins speaking to you. He begins speaking to your mind, and begins showing you your faults. He also tells you how to get out of certain situations you gotten into. He addresses you as a father or mother would to their son/daughter.

You have expressed to God that you do not want this reoccurring issue. You tell him that you want to your expand your horizons in him. You tell God that every time you are about to step into his calling for your life, the same issue occurs and prevents you from moving forward. The other day God spoke to me and said, “I brought you through your trial because I have plans for you.” This confirmed the prophet’s prophesy. Yesterday and today, everywhere I look I encounter scriptures that have actually been ministering to me, and confirming things in my life. I am tired or riding the spiritual rollercoaster. I know the enemy is out to destroy me, as he is with all of us.

Even though many of us here have different interpretations of doctrine, we all know that same God, and know how to get a hold of him. I am asking that you remember me in your prayers, that I may enter my calling. My initials are A.C.

Thank You.

[KeptByTheWord]

I will pray for you. Immerse yourself in the Word of God. It is the only foundation that will hold through the rocky storms of life, at least in my life anyway. And I will be praying for you!

[shazeep]

i am addressing this only because of the title of the post, which leads me to ask
1) why do you suppose that you are not where God wants you to be?
2) i was going to ask about this 'prophet,' but i'll skip that for now...but i will say that "seeking God when you are feeling bad" is a great sign to me!

i am praying God's will for you; but my impression of your post, coupled with every inch of skin will be flayed from you, leads me to believe that you are doing great; recognizing your shortcomings; and apparently have a pretty good idea of what fault it is that is your next step.

a word on this 'prophecy,' tho; it is common--i would use the term 'rampant'--to get some yappy prognostication from some religious guy, detailing how one is going to be vaulted into some prominent position in life, based upon their dedication to God; and i would pray that you lose this asap. It is prognostication, period, and eerily similar, in my mind, to a tarot reading, or a past-life regression, wherein the subject is invariably a reincarnation of Xerxes, or someone vastly famous.

realizing how that reads, i will just say that i have yet to hear one go anything like what i read in Scripture is in store for anyone serious about God. i would postulate that you are on a spiritual roller coaster because you are double-minded--wanna follow God, but still have a foot (or two) in the world; a mortgage, prolly, is my initial feeling from this distance.

“I brought you through your trial because I have plans for you.” This confirmed the prophet’s prophesy.

yes, and confirms my suspicions. see that "i have plans for you" is just the stock prophecy, that obviously applies to everyone--strange tho, that those plans never seem to uncover pick up your cross and follow Me very well. sorry if this didn't come across better, but i think your problems are arising from religion. imo, lose the improper, impetuous even, delusions of grandeur that have been profit-sied upon you, and know that you cannot 'let God down' in the manner of an earthly father, if you are seeking God's will.

[KeptByTheWord]

Shazeep... you've nailed an important issue ...

imo, lose the improper, impetuous even, delusions of grandeur that have been profit-sied upon you, and know that you cannot 'let God down' in the manner of an earthly father, if you are seeking God's will.
:thumbsup ... and the phrase you coined, "profit-sied" .... is just how it is with many of the so-called prophets today...

[Jacob's Ladder]

i am addressing this only because of the title of the post, which leads me to ask
1) why do you suppose that you are not where God wants you to be?
2) i was going to ask about this 'prophet,' but i'll skip that for now...but i will say that "seeking God when you are feeling bad" is a great sign to me!

i am praying God's will for you; but my impression of your post, coupled with every inch of skin will be flayed from you, leads me to believe that you are doing great; recognizing your shortcomings; and apparently have a pretty good idea of what fault it is that is your next step.

a word on this 'prophecy,' tho; it is common--i would use the term 'rampant'--to get some yappy prognostication from some religious guy, detailing how one is going to be vaulted into some prominent position in life, based upon their dedication to God; and i would pray that you lose this asap. It is prognostication, period, and eerily similar, in my mind, to a tarot reading, or a past-life regression, wherein the subject is invariably a reincarnation of Xerxes, or someone vastly famous.

realizing how that reads, i will just say that i have yet to hear one go anything like what i read in Scripture is in store for anyone serious about God. i would postulate that you are on a spiritual roller coaster because you are double-minded--wanna follow God, but still have a foot (or two) in the world; a mortgage, prolly, is my initial feeling from this distance.

“I brought you through your trial because I have plans for you.” This confirmed the prophet’s prophesy.

yes, and confirms my suspicions. see that "i have plans for you" is just the stock prophecy, that obviously applies to everyone--strange tho, that those plans never seem to uncover pick up your cross and follow Me very well. sorry if this didn't come across better, but i think your problems are arising from religion. imo, lose the improper, impetuous even, delusions of grandeur that have been profit-sied upon you, and know that you cannot 'let God down' in the manner of an earthly father, if you are seeking God's will.

In regard to your first question, the world is very pleasurous. Apostle Paul said it best, "I don't really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don't do it. Instead, I do what I hate."

Concerning your second question, yes, a prophet. Prophets are alive and well within this day and hour. The first prophet (Apostolic Assemblies) came to me and spoke to me about my past, how God has used me. Nobody there knew that but God. He then began telling me exactly what I was experiencing. He then began telling me what God's calling for my life was, and it coincided with how God has used me in the past. In addition, when hospitalized, another prophet (UPC renown) called my hospital room. He did not prophesy to me, but asked what was happening. I told him the entire scoop, and he mentioned things that were in agreement with what the other prophet said.

[shazeep]

ya...but i don't mean to denigrate a trusted pastor, or etc. Many are deceived, and i'm sure in this area also...

Shazeep... you've nailed an important issue ...


:thumbsup ... and the phrase you coined, "profit-sied" .... is just how it is with many of the so-called prophets today...

[shazeep]

Concerning your second question, yes, a prophet. Prophets are alive and well within this day and hour. The first prophet (Apostolic Assemblies) came to me and spoke to me about my past, how God has used me. Nobody there knew that but God.
Hmm. While i might suggest that this can be an acquired skill, you were there, and i was not; and i have to believe that your horse-pucky meter is as good as mine; but this might be worth re-examining, if the revealing of your past works ran to anything like "God has a plan for you."

As to the first part, i think acceptance of this is common, but my (currently 2 year) serious search for evidence of present day prophets leads me to doubt it, for a couple of Scriptural reasons--not that that should interest you, but just for background. I'm actually coming to believe that our definition of Prophet has now changed.

[Jacob's Ladder]

Hmm. While i might suggest that this can be an acquired skill, you were there, and i was not; and i have to believe that your horse-pucky meter is as good as mine; but this might be worth re-examining, if the revealing of your past works ran to anything like "God has a plan for you."

As to the first part, i think acceptance of this is common, but my (currently 2 year) serious search for evidence of present day prophets leads me to doubt it, for a couple of Scriptural reasons--not that that should interest you, but just for background. I'm actually coming to believe that our definition of Prophet has now changed.

This man wasn't general, he was precise. In addition to telling me precise things about my past, he told me exactly what my hindrance was. Like I said, nobody knew but God. All this was accompanied by strong presence of God that just made me weep. God reassured me that He was in control.

[shazeep]

This man wasn't general, he was precise. In addition to telling me precise things about my past, he told me exactly what my hindrance was. Like I said, nobody knew but God. All this was accompanied by strong presence of God that just made me weep. God reassured me that He was in control.Hmm, wow. I am persuaded by you here; while never directly experiencing this. quite a day for me in that area. i pray God's will for you in this test, and would like to hear the testimony after it has been overcome.

[Jacob's Ladder]

Hmm, wow. I am persuaded by you here; while never directly experiencing this. quite a day for me in that area. i pray God's will for you in this test, and would like to hear the testimony after it has been overcome.

Thanks. You know something? I was thinking about every time I've really sought God, I've always have gone through horrible emotional/mental drama. Recently when I decided to try again, perhaps my body is accustomed to feeling bad in order to seek God. Perhaps my mind is playing tricks to try and make me feel bad, because that's how I'm use to seeking God. I've determined, I don't need to feel bad to seek god! I can be perfectly happy and walk into my destiny! Please keep me in prayer!

[shazeep]

Amen. Happiness is a problem solving device in Scripture; a powerful one, i guess. Prolly because if you are really determined to commit to God, i guess you are gonna need it. That piece of yourself that you will give away in order to...not go through the horrible emo/drama, not react; it has cousins--all the pieces of yourself that are left. Joy might be a better word? Weird, neither word, defined as we normally would, really quite fits. Hmm.

[Aquila]

I think we've all wrestled with self-condemnation.


1 John 3:19-22
New Living Translation (NLT)
19 Our actions will show that we belong to the truth, so we will be confident when we stand before God. 20 Even if we feel guilty, God is greater than our feelings, and he knows everything.
21 Dear friends, if we don’t feel guilty, we can come to God with bold confidence. 22 And we will receive from him whatever we ask because we obey him and do the things that please him.

[shazeep]

Amen to that. i think where satan is often able to get to us here is the misunderstanding of v20. i know i only poorly grasp this, anyway--that we are not condemned by our sins, which have been forgiven; we are instead limited by our guilt over these sins. i think i got that right...