Same Sermon Three Times

[Sherri]

I heard my husband preach the same sermon three different times yesterday and I survived!! Actually, it was more awesome with each service. He did the second part of a three part series on commitment. Very heavy stuff, but very needed. The one this next week is on living pure, so it should be even more interesting. I think this series has really brought our church to a new level. We had awesome altar services each time; many recommitments and new people coming to the Lord too.

We also baptized two new adults Sunday. One Catholic girl and one guy who has just been a royal heathen, but God has totally turned his life around. So exciting to see the new ones come in!

[Garfield]

What does your husband say when he baptizes?

[RevDWW]

What does your husband say when he baptizes?

One thing I always say is "Hold your nose with that hand, and your wrist with the other".................:killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme

[Garfield]

One thing I always say is "Hold your nose with that hand, and your wrist with the other".................:killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme



Yes and that too.

[Sherri]

What does your husband say when he baptizes?
Are you really interested, or are you trying to start something here???:tease

[Scott Hutchinson]

Oh I think he says thank you Jesus.

[Garfield]

Are you really interested, or are you trying to start something here???:tease


Interested or I wouldn't have asked.

[Sherri]

Interested or I wouldn't have asked.
Ok, first of all, he rarely baptizes anyone. He usually lets some of the other staff members do it because they haven't done nearly as many as him over the years. We use a formula that goes like this....
"Garfield, upon your profession of faith and according to Matthew 28:19 that says, Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and as was fulfilled in Acts the second chapter, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

Totally scriptural, totally right on!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Ok, first of all, he rarely baptizes anyone. He usually lets some of the other staff members do it because they haven't done nearly as many as him over the years. We use a formula that goes like this....
"Garfield, upon your profession of faith and according to Matthew 28:19 that says, Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and as was fulfilled in Acts the second chapter, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

Totally scriptural, totally right on!

Yes that will work.Just like saying I baptize you in the name Of Jesus Christ,which is the name of The Father,Son,Holy Ghost.

[Sherri]

Yes that will work.Just like saying I baptize you in the name Of Jesus Christ,which is the name of The Father,Son,Holy Ghost.
Thanks, Bro. Scott. Some on here would not agree though.:ranting

[Neck]

I heard my husband preach the same sermon three different times yesterday and I survived!! Actually, it was more awesome with each service. He did the second part of a three part series on commitment. Very heavy stuff, but very needed. The one this next week is on living pure, so it should be even more interesting. I think this series has really brought our church to a new level. We had awesome altar services each time; many recommitments and new people coming to the Lord too.

We also baptized two new adults Sunday. One Catholic girl and one guy who has just been a royal heathen, but God has totally turned his life around. So exciting to see the new ones come in!

Sherri,
My Dad John Eckstadt in 1976 preached a sermon of his at each stop of a Florida evangelistic tour.

My mom, younger brother and I heard the sermon maybe 15 times on a 5 week period.

It was just like what I do in sales the more I give the same presentation.

I add to it or change it. Then I can also change it as I go.

Since I have done it so many ways.

I pulled out the sermon the "The Sure Foundation" just a few weeks ago.

You know what I am going to preach it again in his memory sometime in 2007.

It was really cool to see a man's wife love and enjoy what her husband does.

Nathan Eckstadt

[Steve Epley]

Sherri,
My Dad John Eckstadt in 1976 preached a sermon of his at each stop of a Florida evangelistic tour.

My mom, younger brother and I heard the sermon maybe 15 times on a 5 week period.

It was just like what I do in sales the more I give the same presentation.

I add to it or change it. Then I can also change it as I go.

Since I have done it so many ways.

I pulled out the sermon the "The Sure Foundation" just a few weeks ago.

You know what I am going to preach it again in his memory sometime in 2007.

It was really cool to see a man's wife love and enjoy what her husband does.

Nathan Eckstadt

She is a captive audience.

[Neck]

Ok, first of all, he rarely baptizes anyone. He usually lets some of the other staff members do it because they haven't done nearly as many as him over the years. We use a formula that goes like this....
"Garfield, upon your profession of faith and according to Matthew 28:19 that says, Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and as was fulfilled in Acts the second chapter, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

Totally scriptural, totally right on!

I like it!

[Scott Hutchinson]

I used to consider that a compromise,but what you are doing is explaining how the early church understood the Lord's command to baptize.You could say I baptize you in the name Of Jesus The Christ,Or I baptize you in the name Of Jesus Christ,The Mighty God or I baptize you in the name Of Jesus Christ as a rite of passage and I think these all would work.

[ManOfWord]

Ok, first of all, he rarely baptizes anyone. He usually lets some of the other staff members do it because they haven't done nearly as many as him over the years. We use a formula that goes like this....
"Garfield, upon your profession of faith and according to Matthew 28:19 that says, Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and as was fulfilled in Acts the second chapter, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

Totally scriptural, totally right on!

Cant' get much more scriptural than that!!! :D

[crakjak]

Ok, first of all, he rarely baptizes anyone. He usually lets some of the other staff members do it because they haven't done nearly as many as him over the years. We use a formula that goes like this....
"Garfield, upon your profession of faith and according to Matthew 28:19 that says, Go ye into all the world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and as was fulfilled in Acts the second chapter, I now baptize you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

Totally scriptural, totally right on!

I like that!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Did you give all three times in the offering?

[Coonskinner]

There is one sermon I have preached nearly 30 times.

I have preached it in probably twenty different states, three different countries and two continents.

My poor wife has had to hear it most of those times, and bless her heart, she still shouts and backs me to the hilt every time.

It is an amazing woman who can live with you all week and expect to hear from God through you on Sunday.

[Ronzo]

I need to listen to some messages repeatedly until they finally get through my very thick skull.

[Sherri]

Did you give all three times in the offering?
Actually, twice. The third time was in another church, and the offering was being taken up for Eddie, so I felt stupid putting something in there.:dunno

[Sherri]

There is one sermon I have preached nearly 30 times.

I have preached it in probably twenty different states, three different countries and two continents.

My poor wife has had to hear it most of those times, and bless her heart, she still shouts and backs me to the hilt every time.

It is an amazing woman who can live with you all week and expect to hear from God through you on Sunday.
Eddie recently preached in Phoenix for some friends of ours. He started moving in the gifts of the Spirit during the altar service, and prophesied some very specific things to two different couples that we had never seen before. (Those are when I'm sitting there sweating). But, he was right both times, and they were really touched by the power of God. After the service, a lady came up to me and was just like...."what is it like to live with that anointing all the time? I can't imagine what it must be like to live around a man of God like that!!" It's the second time someone has asked me that. Makes me just want to crack up; he's so human at home. :killinme

[Coonskinner]

Eddie recently preached in Phoenix for some friends of ours. He started moving in the gifts of the Spirit during the altar service, and prophesied some very specific things to two different couples that we had never seen before. (Those are when I'm sitting there sweating). But, he was right both times, and they were really touched by the power of God. After the service, a lady came up to me and was just like...."what is it like to live with that anointing all the time? I can't imagine what it must be like to live around a man of God like that!!" It's the second time someone has asked me that. Makes me just want to crack up; he's so human at home. :killinme

Separating the treasure from the vessel is absolutely a necessity if people are to have a healthy and balanced relationship with the ministry.

Some years ago, I preached in a church where there was a backslidden young lady in attendance.

The gifts were operating that night, and in her hardness of heart and bitterness, unbeknownst to me at the time, of course, she basically in her heart challenged the Lord. Later, she told me that she said in her heart, "Lord, if this is real, why hasn't he discerned my sin?"

By her testimony, thirty seconds later, I stopped preaching, walked to her, and said, quietly in her ear, of course, "So, you don't think anyone knows you are doing this, and this, and this...etc.?"

I didn't know what she had done, I was just obeying the prompting of the Holy Ghost.

She prayed through and gave her life to the Lord.

later, she married a young man in our church, and when she came, she was scared to death of me.

I finally figured out why she acted so strangely and had to sit down with her and explain that I can't read minds, and only know what God chooses to let me know. And that He only does those things for a specific purpose.

She was finally able to relax.

But sometimes this is a stumblingblock for folks.

[Coonskinner]

Also...


This is one of the reasons why I prefer not to deal this way with people I have to pastor. Even when God shows me things, I try to work it around and deal with the issue in such a way that they don't know I know.

People get uncomfortable if they see you operate those gifts too much.

As a pastor, I usually do it in stealth mode. I feel like it is healthier for my people.

Preaching out, I don't have as much time obviously to work on things, and so do things a little differently.

[AGAPE]

Also...


This is one of the reasons why I prefer not to deal this way with people I have to pastor. Even when God shows me things, I try to work it around and deal with the issue in such a way that they don't know I know.

People get uncomfortable if they see you operate those gifts too much.

As a pastor, I usually do it in stealth mode. I feel like it is healthier for my people.

Preaching out, I don't have as much time obviously to work on things, and so do things a little differently.

Wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove

[CC1]

Also...


This is one of the reasons why I prefer not to deal this way with people I have to pastor. Even when God shows me things, I try to work it around and deal with the issue in such a way that they don't know I know.

People get uncomfortable if they see you operate those gifts too much.

As a pastor, I usually do it in stealth mode. I feel like it is healthier for my people.

Preaching out, I don't have as much time obviously to work on things, and so do things a little differently.


Coonskinner,

There is a lot of wisdom in what you have written here. I admire your take on this. I think there is an allure to some of the supernatural operations of the Holy Spirit that can appeal to a man's vanity or ego. It shows great understanding of the purpose of those operations for you to say that using them does not neccessarily mean doing things in a way that brings attention to the man of God or person operating in the gifts.

A word of discernment spoken quietly or privately can many times be more effective than any public display of that gift.

[CC1]

Sherri,

So basicly you are saying you guys give a doctrinal lesson on reconciling the great commission in Matthew 28:19 with Acts 2:38 on the Day of Pentecost with each and every baptism? LOL!!!!

[Coonskinner]

Coonskinner,

There is a lot of wisdom in what you have written here. I admire your take on this. I think there is an allure to some of the supernatural operations of the Holy Spirit that can appeal to a man's vanity or ego. It shows great understanding of the purpose of those operations for you to say that using them does not neccessarily mean doing things in a way that brings attention to the man of God or person operating in the gifts.

A word of discernment spoken quietly or privately can many times be more effective than any public display of that gift.

When God reveals something to me, I don't rush out in a hurry to let someone know that I know.

Depending on the issue and the context, I might never do anything but pray about it.

I might work it into a sermon in an offhand way without letting anyone know I am dealing with something I have been shown by the Spirit.

Going to the person directly is the last recourse unless I have specific direction from the Lord otherwise, at least at home where people have to see me on a regular basis.

People can easily get the wrong idea about someone who is used in the Gifts. It is healthier for them and healthier for me if I keep a low profile in that particular realm of ministry.

[Ronzo]

People can easily get the wrong idea about someone who is used in the Gifts. It is healthier for them and healthier for me if I keep a low profile in that particular realm of ministry.
I agree with your take on it, 'Skinner.

People, especially people with a guilty (accusing) conscience who are struggling with things, will tend to shy away from you completely if they know you operate in the Gifts.

If they know you 'hear from God', they become afraid that God is going to show you everything they struggle with... and get freaked out just having you around.

[Coonskinner]

I agree with your take on it, 'Skinner.

People, especially people with a guilty (accusing) conscience who are struggling with things, will tend to shy away from you completely if they know you operate in the Gifts.

If they know you 'hear from God', they become afraid that God is going to show you everything they struggle with... and get freaked out just having you around.

My own brother is currently avoiding me like the plague right now for this very reason.

Or so a friend of his told me.:(

[Ronzo]

Been there done that at certain times of my life...

[Felicity]

I heard my husband preach the same sermon three different times yesterday and I survived!! Actually, it was more awesome with each service. He did the second part of a three part series on commitment. Very heavy stuff, but very needed. The one this next week is on living pure, so it should be even more interesting. I think this series has really brought our church to a new level. We had awesome altar services each time; many recommitments and new people coming to the Lord too.

We also baptized two new adults Sunday. One Catholic girl and one guy who has just been a royal heathen, but God has totally turned his life around. So exciting to see the new ones come in!I love to hear a PW complement her husband's preaching. :) I've heard some be very critical and make put down remarks. It really bothers me when they do that.

Good to hear the good things happening at your church.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Every time I preach my wife always points out something that she doesn't like but I think she is trying help me.

[Coonskinner]

I do not recall my wife ever criticizing a single sermon.

Not because there isn't anything to criticize, but because she is kind.:)

[Margies3]

We had a pastor one time who preached the same sermon 4 times in a row. Someone finally asked him why. His reply? "I'm going to keep preaching it, too. Until you all finally GET it!!"

[Sherri]

Also...


This is one of the reasons why I prefer not to deal this way with people I have to pastor. Even when God shows me things, I try to work it around and deal with the issue in such a way that they don't know I know.

People get uncomfortable if they see you operate those gifts too much.

As a pastor, I usually do it in stealth mode. I feel like it is healthier for my people.

Preaching out, I don't have as much time obviously to work on things, and so do things a little differently.

Eddie rarely moves in the prophetic/word of knowledge anointing in our own services - once in a while, but it's rare. Because he knows so much carnally (naturally), he does not want people to think he is using info and pretending it's in the Spirit. But in other places, he is much freer to be used that way, because he knows nothing.

[Sherri]

Sherri,

So basicly you are saying you guys give a doctrinal lesson on reconciling the great commission in Matthew 28:19 with Acts 2:38 on the Day of Pentecost with each and every baptism? LOL!!!!
EACH AND EVERY TIME!!!!:tease

[rgcraig]

Sherri,

Just make sure you don't mouth the words with him - could be distracting!

[Sherri]

Sherri,

Just make sure you don't mouth the words with him - could be distracting!
I think I could preach this sermon now myself. But I don't think I will. I prefer to just be in the amen corner.